Netflix Death Note

Unironically fun little teen horror movie.

That's sort of close.

In the movie Mia decides Light isn't man enough to do what's necessary. She puts his name in the book and writes that he'll bring her the book. After he does that, she insists she'll burn the page with his name.

So what he does is go on that website where people are posting criminal profiles for Kira to kill and writes down an elaborate plan involving multiple people. This gets his page burned, mia killed, and the Death Note ultimately returned to him.

the one with a black watari

You're right. The only flaw of the movie is that it is too fast-paced and rushed.

OP, you need to know, thatDN anime fans are the most autist of all the fanbases. Their show is perfect and they get angry if you call out everything that went wrong with it, which is actually a lot.

This movie is a fun 7,5. The anime had some moments of 10, but also lots of boring filler and its biggest sin:it didn't know when to end.

He's relentlessly handsome. I want to kiss him relentlessly.

it shouldnt exist

No u

I personally acknowledge the show as nearly perfect in its own right, just a slight dropoff in quality after L died. But even that wasn't a terrible decision to me because it just made the show more of a character study about Light's descent into madness than a battle of wits between two specific people. I'm also a sucker for stuff about supernatural things that are treated in an otherwise "realistic" way, in which you get to see what would happen if such a thing appeared in the real world. What do you think went badly wrong with it?

Netflix death note bends the rules so much that every plot point becomes retarded
Light turns watari into some personal slave by writing his name and having him do a whole bunch of shit for him, and there's the bullshit of writing a name to have then kill another name or do something they would never naturally do
The original death note was good because of the limitation therein which forced light to pull off some genuinely clever shit to take the heat off himself, in the Netflix version from beginning to end the plot advances because light just decides to use the mind control note on a different person/for a different purpose

Ah right, that’s how it happened. I sometimes wonder if it’s even worth watching anything with how quickly I forget the material. Death note has been out for a bit though

The part with the CEOs or whatever their position were, was the first sign of big trouble.
Misa's character is also annoying. The Margaret Qualley character in the movie was much better despite being played by a braindead actress.
And of course, everything after L died, was just not interesting enough for me. Mello and Near were nowhere as entertaining as characters as L.

As movie it's pretty horrible. When Light discovers he has even the possibility of killing people though the notebook he automatically thinks of the worst way that one of his classmates can die. Doesn't matter the kid was a bully, you don't just say I WANT THIS PERSON TO BE DECAPITATED

In the original, Light is not a psychopath yet and is unsure about the ability to kill people, so he targets criminals he doesn't know, and doesn't even write anything at first so they just die of heart attacks. In the movie Light is a fucking demented psychopath thinking of all sorts of horrible ways people can die and you're supposed to feel sympathy for him. Worse yet is the girl who is even more of a psychopath than he is.

The great thing about the original material is that it asks you the question of just how ethical it is to be able to end the lives of criminals. You're not supposed to take joy in thinking of horrible ways for people to die. You just want to merely end their lives.

Light dying at the end is kino fuck off. The only legit complaint people have about the original is everything after L died.

I can’t really hate on the Netflix adaptation. It was clearly made from the heart it’s just unfortunate that it sucked ass.

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>it’s rushed because of the amount of material.

Its not just rushed, its objectively and provably a dumber product. All you have to do is compare the two scenes with L using the press conference to call out Kira to understand that even though they're using the exact same setup and have the exact same runtime for both, one of them is just plain dumber, more nonsensical and downright idiotic compared to the clever and well executed original.

For fucks sake the guy literally summons 'he needs a name and face' out of nowhere and you're saying this ending, which is based around the big reveal setup by the guy deducing he's using some 'latent psychic ability that requires a name and face', actual fucking line of the movie, and nonsensical wordplay that doesn't make any sense is better than him just plain getting caught?

Its a dumb movie from people who are too afraid that a cartoon is too complicated for dumb netflix watchers to follow, so they turned the brilliant athletic overachiever into a whiny bitchboy because current year.

The japanese live action movie had a much, much better ending than both though.

unironic kino
then again i'm autistic about dn and seeing anything related to the series makes me happy

it was great, reddit doesnt like great movies

I waited a decade for a decent adaptation of DN and all I got was a steaming turd.

Deathnote is a series of nonsensical asspulls. Netflix's adaptation is a series of nonsensical asspulls, but also there's a black guy and white guy now.

I hated the anime, so this was a better version of that concept. Instead of the edgy "I AM MASTER GENIUS OF KILLING" bullshit the anime beat us over the head with, this showed what would happen if an actual high schooler got his hands on the Death Note. Way more entertaining.

The scene where L just straight up comes out on the podium and just dares Kira to kill him and from there exactly deduces the power of the Death Note was where you know the filmmakers just thought you were stupid. They actively thought you were so stupid you'd think that worked and some idiots actually praise this movie. Think about it, all you'd have to do is copy paste the original scene with very minor name tweaks and you'd have a perfect means for L to understand the death note instead of waving his dick around and going "Shoot me nigga lets go!". You just had to copy the scene, that's it. The good thing was already there. Instead the filmmakers went with him being an utter and complete dumbass. The screenwriter is dumb, the director is dumb, and anyone who likes it is probably just desperate

my husband

>this showed what would happen if an actual high schooler got his hands on the Death Note.

An autistic black man would stumble into figuring everything out and then somehow find a spare page while deducing that this page can kill people?

You have a very odd view of the world, but I respect you being straightforwards with being a dumbass.

>An autistic black man would stumble into figuring everything out

Did he stumble into it? He mostly just seemed to summoned the answers to make everything go his way like he was Rey.

This one is kino if you don't like cartoons

Out Sopranosfag

They replaced L with a black guy so Netflix watchers would be impressed with anything he did. Sure, it’s not smart or clever in any way, but he’s trying and that deserves a clap. If they stuck with an Asian being smart they might feel threatened

Go fall mouth or ass first on an erect penis, you absolute weeb.

>The japanese live action movie had a much, much better ending than both though.

I actually don't think so. I absolutely disagree with the concept of L using the Death Note at all. It's meant to represent an unholy object that damns its users out of a normal passage to the afterlife. In the manga ending, the author highlights Near's ruthlessness with his willingness to actually use the death note to set up Light. L was portrayed as a (relatively) much more noble figure and the concept of him using the death note for any purpose regardless of importance doesn't sit right with me.

>western
fucking yikes

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I thought the CEO arc was comfy kino, and it allowed some other characters on the task force (Aizawa, Matsuda, Misa) to shine sometimes. It was the result of Light's most brilliant scheme too, so the payoff of his reclaiming the Death Note after seven episodes was huge and made any seeming aimlessness worth it.
Misa is annoying, but after rewatching it recently, she at least wasn't as dumb as I remember. She had her moments, like being the one to figure out Higuchi was the CEO Kira, and getting her memories back before Light and kind of guiding him back to regaining his own memories without explicitly telling him what she was doing. Her ditzyness is annoying, but it at least reminds me of a time before muh gurl power was in all media.
Mello and Near arc still had the intrigue in spades for me, the only thing that sucked about it was that Near was a little bitch, personality-wise. Actually, Mello was too to an extent.

This scene was such kino. There was hardly a heartfelt or sad moment in the whole show up to this point, and then they hit us with this.

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It's kino in the same vein as Ginger Snaps. It really feels like a late 90s/early 2000s supernatural thriller.

>stumble

Huh? L figured it out using all of the clues. Black L knew it was some sort of supernatural power and Light accidentally revealed to him that it was a power that could be shared or passed on. The rest came from observation.

The manga was shit. Live-action absolutely nailed the ending by having L legitimately be the world's greatest detective. He did everything he could to solve the case, even offering up his own life to make sure the criminal was caught.

I disagree with that assessment but respect the foundation it comes from. I only disagree because of the added recurring theme of what L was willing to risk and what he was willing to lose present throughout both movies being much more highlighted than in the original. With due respect to the craftmanship on display for Manga L's intelligence, the creator leaned too heavily on his aloofness in certain scenes to pretty much anyway but his immediate caretaker, while the movie depicted him as having a distant, but noble and caring, outlook on humanity. He was socially awkward, but it was also clear during the second movie he'd come to care for a lot of the other characters.

His willingness to use the death note on himself was a clear sign that he was finally willing to bear his name and himself to the world in defense of it, and it was a perfect conclusion to that particular arc. Both sides have merit, but I feel the sole selfless use of the Note in contrast with the reckless selfish use of Light provided the perfect way to show their differences, and unlike in the manga the beautiful contrast in their death scenes struck home. L's connection obviously was reduced in both manga and anime because of the vast space between his demise and Lights, but with them being so close and the gentle acceptance that he saved everyone compared to the crying and desperation of the one who called himself a hero? That was some wonderful storytelling, the intricacy L used to pull it off was much stronger than in the original as well, no need for Near's insane asspull.'

Just my opinion.

they cast a nigger as the genius international detective
you don't cast a nigger as the smart guy and expect a flick to be a hit

Good for you, but after all the hype it got, I expected more and I only got it in small doses.
The rest is your typical anime nonsense with more or less better writing.

Also, the fanbase is one of the most, if not the most toxic, in any kind of media. I tried to rewatch it again with a fan, but it got so annoying in the first minutes that I dozed off.

>L figured it out using all of the clues.
Right, carefully crafted clues that also explained why he figured out the note needed a name, and then later a face. He theorized it was supernatural pretty quickly, and he knew he couldn't risk going out since he had no basis for how it worked. He didn't just use anyone, he made sure that a number of factors were taken into consideration and he deduced from what worked and what didn't how the Note worked, but also knew showing himself before he knew what was going on could be a death sentence.

> Black L knew it was some sort of supernatural power
And then he promptly stood on a fucking podium in front of a bunch of cameras and told Kira to take him out. He has no idea how this supernatural thing works, he has no reason to think he's safe, he has no reason to think its not just a fucking angel firing upon the guilty because all victims in the movie so far were murderers, and from there he immediately deduces the Death Notes weakness.

Such a fucking stupid movie that's even more stupid when the directions on how not to be stupid were drawn with pretty colors.

>he fanbase is one of the most, if not the most toxic, in any kind of media
Won't disagree with this.

>the ending is better than the manga and anime ending
imagine being this retarded

I just read the manga and thought it was mediocre with a terrible ending. So I'm gonna watch the movie because I enjoy bad movies.

If you want a taste of the cringe, here's L's actor "acting" terribly and showing he doesn't understand the character. He does these interviews in character and it's entertaining just for how bad it is. His reaction is the opposite of L's in the manga youtu.be/_xF0d6Jw3_k?t=45

he wasn't a "master genius of killing"
he was "A GOD OF JUSTICE"
did you even watch it?

You're talking about how Light sees himself, where that user is talking about how we see Light. He abandoned the idea of justice pretty quick, and used killing selfishly without any thought of justice.

>Also, the fanbase is one of the most, if not the most toxic, in any kind of media.
None of them sent death threats to the creator for pairing up one of the girls with someone, or stalked someone from the production, or dressed themselves up like Goofy, so you know what until you present evidence that a bunch of fans almost drove someone to suicide for drawing a character the wrong level of fat, I'm going to take that opinion with a grain of salt.

Kill yourself faggot

>caring or knowing about what reddit does
kys

The fuck are you talking about? He clearly knew about half way into the movie that the supernatural power needed a name and face since every single person who was killed or likely killed by Kira had their name and face available publicly.

I mean the general feelings towards the manga and anime endings are fairly ambivalent. I can see why people would be more satisfied with the conclusion of the Netflix movie than they were the anime/manga.

my other husband

>He clearly knew about half way into the movie that the supernatural power needed a name and face since every single person who was killed or likely killed by Kira had their name and face available publicly.

That's the dumbest leap of logic possible to reach that kind of point, and to have him confirm it by standing out in the middle of a crowd and calling out the supernatural thing is even dumber still. You realize that at this point in the movie, the kills had been murderers. L never killed a guy, so that factor had to be taken into account, that's not even me being a detective, its just basic understanding. Put a murderer up there and see if Kira can kill him and call him L or something just to see what happens, and I don't know where I got that idea.

But no, because the names and faces of murderers were public, along with their past crimes and history, it had to be the first thing and not the second thing. Good thing he's willing to put himself on the line to confirm it. Boy would he look stupid if Kira just needed, like, a location or something, right?

So stupid.

He also shows his face to Light later just to confirm he needs a name, I think. No setup like the original where he hid his identity, he made sure Light knows who he is. Where did the name aspect even come from in this movie? All the information was public so maybe you could stretch beyond a mile and just say he got incredibly lucky guessing that it had to be a face and ignoring everything else like he bet on 13 at roulette, but all the information had a face to it so why would he assume a name of all things mattered? Unlike the original, he never did a fakeout with a changed name he just knew because you know, dumb movie for dumb people.

changed everything that made the anime so good. Not even based Buck Dafoe could save this dumpster fire, which is a shame because he was the only good casting. Why cast a whiny jewish kid with dyed hair as a brooding Japanese (white) psycho with a book? Nepotism, or a lack of depth? In the end, it doesn't really matter what the real reason was as nobody remembers this garbage adaptation.

>L never killed a guy, so that factor had to be taken into account

Why? Black L explicitly says in his little conference thing that he knew Kira was just a guy with access to a database.
Real L used Lind L Tailor because he knew absolutely nothing about how Kira worked. Black L already honeypotted Kira and figured out the general idea of how he works by the time he goes public.

>Black L explicitly says in his little conference thing that he knew Kira was just a guy with access to a database.
Yeah he pulled that out of his ass, there was no possible way for him to figure that out. Like, right out of the ass so flagrantly stupid when he's also crying that the guy is supernatural. What possible deduction could have brought him to this conclusion?

>Real L used Lind L Tailor because he knew absolutely nothing about how Kira worked.
Which makes sense.

>Black L already honeypotted Kira and figured out the general idea of how he works by the time he goes public.
He did not, unless he was somehow straight up psychic himself because none of what was shown onscreen leads to any of his conclusions, its one hundred percent asspulls that are compounded because they're asspulls he deduced away from much more reasonable explanations he disregarded in favor of the outlandish ones that just happened to be right. We never saw any of this deduction and we never saw him figure it out because there isn't an explanation or deduction, it just happens out of the grace of some idiot with a computer and Final Draft open. its a detective story where all the deduction never happens and all the answers just come to the smart character because he's smart, even about supernatural deathbooks, so smart.

Unlike anything in this move.

Did you watch the movie objectively, or did you just ignore everything because it wasn't "muh anniemays"? I gave you the benefit of the doubt since things are forgettable, but you don't seem to actually know anything about the story progression or even character interactions

>niggerflix
>adds niggers

They made the black guy dumb and autistic so yeah it's kino.

>Did you watch the movie objectively,
I mean I'm describing things that happened in the movie in detail and you're being kinda vague and just outright wrong about events so I dunno. Maybe you got the special edition with added scenes that also deconfirmed very obvious answers? Because yeah, he tells Light's dad about the database thing, but there is no actual deduction shown to it and its not supported by anything on screen.

>I gave you the benefit of the doubt since things are forgettable,

Yes its very forgettable, but stupid stuff like that sticks with you.

> but you don't seem to actually know anything about the story progression or even character interactions

Shit man even if I just wanted to use wikipedia, they straight up gloss over it too because there's no explanation for this dumb shit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note_(2017_film)
>Kira's actions draw the attention of enigmatic international detective "L". L deduces Kira is a student based in Seattle with close ties to the police, and indirectly concludes Kira can only kill by knowing the name and face of their victim.
Face it, cry "Muh" all you want but its a stupid movie objectively done worse than the pretty crayon version some nip drew for 15 cents and a thank you, and it took some level of idiot to not follow basic directions.

Why should we know? Go ask them.

You're describing extremely general plot points yet conveniently forgetting about all the details that progress the plot.
I was hoping to have an actual discussion about the extended Death Note franchise, but it's clear you've either forgotten everything or never actually sat and watched it.

Why is light a dumbass?

My favorite part about the "L in public scene" is he first uses that scene to confirm Kira can't kill him, and then uses the exact same scenario with Light's dad doing it and not being killed to confirm that Light is the killer. It's like
>AHA! I hid my face while I called you out, which means you need a name and face!
Then he does it and its like
>AHA! He did it, said his name and showed his face, which means its Light!
Its really the little things about the situation that makes you appreciate the original which at least showed Light try to kill someone during the first press conference. Just that one change made it go from
>Light will try to kill L, but not his dad, suspicious
To
>Light won't try to kill L or his dad which is proof!

It could've been an interesting take if this was another kid who found the death note and not Light, but as is it is a mess. It ignores the established rules of the death note, the one in the manga/anime and the ones it itself made up, most of the actual "kira" killing is bland and the cat and mouse game that Light/L have is simplified to a dumb degree.

If done well, a holier than thou social outcast being manipulated by his bitchy girlfriend to use the Death Note for her own purpose could be kino, but as is they try to keep Light's original intent but with a wildly different context that does not work. Pretty much the only thing that I kinda liked was L, black pandering notwithstanding

>about all the details that progress the plot.
I'm going to have to disagree here, but okay.
>I was hoping to have an actual discussion about the extended Death Note franchise
Well I'm afraid I'm not the person to talk to regarding the live action aside from making fun of how dumbed down it is, its just provably a dumber product made worse by stupider people, and I say this as someone who really hated the Near asspulls in the original's finale. It wasn't as bad as Black L, but it was still not a satisfying ending as the japanese live action version, and I even liked the manga better just because it wasn't as rushed.

> but it's clear you've either forgotten everything or never actually sat and watched it.

Well I watched it, and I hate that I did, because I really wanted a smart adaptation for once and this was the perfect anime for it. I didn't care L was black, I hated that he was so damn stupid compared to the original in every regard. The actor being miscast and turning his goofy ass run into a chase scene is on the director, not him.

Who isn't a dumbass in this movie? Including the people behind it.

There's toxic, and then there's criminal.

The problem with Death Note (or Sherlock for a similar amount of unreasonable fans) is that fans think way too highly of themselves, their intellect and their show.

This. The start really set up the movie to take a very wrong direction and the obvious dumbing down just made it barely watchable.

>There's toxic, and then there's criminal.
Dressing up like goofy in frightening and terrifying accuracy or screaming at someone for drawing a fat person skinny isn't criminal. Wanna know what isn't criminal? Everything that poor guy who drew Black Panther as a white guy got.

>The problem with Death Note (or Sherlock for a similar amount of unreasonable fans) is that fans think way too highly of themselves, their intellect and their show.

Pal if that's enough to put them into the most toxic then I would like to introduce you to a show where a woman wrote herself dressing down a pickle scientist that everyone calls brilliant.

I honestly don't know which examples you're citing, so I can't comment on that. But harassment of any sort is criminal.

You mean that other cartoon, Rick and Morty? Never saw it, and thankfully in my circle of friends and colleagues, only one tried to recommend it but he got immediately shot down.

Japanese can't act.

>I honestly don't know which examples you're citing,
Steven Universe fan got bitched out and almost comitted suicide, guy who drew Black Panther as a white guy is pretty obvious, and the first one is pic related, only look at it if you don't want to sleep.

>Never saw it,
Buddy, there were news reports of people freaking the fuck out over schezwan sauce, lets not pretend you don't know that level of deep dark bullshit but know about the miniscule fandom that is Death Note.

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>still talking about this movie

They made another one? Why? Death Note was already long past it's prime in 2015.

It may surprise you, but if you're not invested in something and have other obligations, any non-important news, genuinely just fly by you.
It has to be some batshit insane stuff like a shooting during TDKR that gets on my radar.

And what may be minuscule to you may be larger to others. In my case I had one ex that was crazy about DN. I had roommates in college that loved it. My best friend also likes it, but he's not crazy about it. Even my professor during a research stay knew it, and liked it moderately. Hell, my current GF's sister is also obsessed with it and her friends and boyfriends have to endure the whole show.

So you see, in my case, minuscule my ass. And the only thing I know about the other cartoon is the pickle, because of some picture with bad tattoos.

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I've got about 40 minutes left in it. It gets so much wrong from the story, my biggest problem is how Light does shit to impress a girl and shares things with her. He's supposed to be an incredible genius who thinks he is god and is smarter than everybody around him.
they got Ryuk and his rules all wrong
L is even more retarded despite wearing shoes and being a nignog

L should have been a girl.

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I've seen the 3 live action death note jap movies. i'm pretty sure two of them weren't retarded and cover a smaller section of the story so it will fit in a movie, and the third was completely made up where L won and spent the last of his time solving another case

I saw this movie. Why are girls so evil

Psychopaths aren't usually nice.

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>fandom
i hate this reddit term. fans. fanbase. fanboys
why the fuck did tumblr have to make up "fandom"

It's a bit older than reddit, like over 100 years older.

It wasn't used until tumblr said it.

Surely you can prove such a bold claim,right?

What movie?
Also, can you imagine the smell?

not even the word fan is that old dipshit.

Killing Daddy.
Nothing special, but the girl is cute.

That's funny, because it is even older.

One word starting with n:

Nigger.

Never watched/read DN and i found the movie very meh...but a girl friend of mine said to me they turned the most based character from manga/anime into a nigger. She was very upset about it and hated the movie because of this.