Godzilla

The first one destroyed every little bit of goodwill it had. You know the saying: fool me once...

I'm glad it did flop. I hated it more than Godzilla 98. Such much missed opportunity. So much blueball fights. Soch much forced human drama.

It was kino, and quite literally a nigh-perfect godzilla movie

I don't know I barely see any movies in the theater anymore. I don't really give a shit about Godzilla though and I haven't since I was a child.

Because everything that isn’t Marvel or Disney nostalgia grabs is flopping this year. Unfortunate, because this is the American Godzilla movie that I’ve always wanted, and I say that as someone who has been a Godzilla fan for about 30 years.

This is the only correct answer. 2019 is the Year of Disney. They’ve been planning for this year in particular for the past 15 years. Everything that isn’t Disney is not performing well. Disney is tanking the film industry with no survivors and will try to claim the streaming throne after all is said and done.

Because America can't into Godzilla.

Too much human bullshit and crappy fighting. Monster movies would be better if you did it more like Shin Godzilla, with the sort of military/government reaction to events and watching the giant monster cause devastation.

Bunch of reasons I can think of. Loss of interest after the 2014 movie disappointed lots of viewers. It had a huge second week drop after all, and what little staying power that movie had has faded over the last five years. People who thought it was a massive success that would leave a lasting legacy were deluded.
It's a niche genre and brand, especially in the West where most normalfags still think of Godzilla as cheap Asian schlock from decades ago or the intersex iguana who lays eggs in New York. The general audience doesn't care for the other monsters either. Coupled with the whole "made by fans for fans" approach, the film just didn't have a big enough mainstream hook. The '14 one at least had Cranston and the advertised tone was very bleak and serious, and Kong: Skull Island had a bunch of relatively well-known names.
Bad reactions from critics and e-celebs. Some of their criticism was justified, the film had a shitty human plot and horrid attempts at humor, it hid the monsters behind storms and the constant cutting away from their fights was annoying, all of which became very easy bashing targets. Fans can say how faithful the film was to the old Godzilla movies all they want, they can praise the use of the classic musical compositions and callbacks and claim this is the movie they wanted since their childhood, but most people who aren't already attached to the franchise don't care about any of that.

because it fucking sucked

Because it was a shitty movie, and a shitty, 2/5 Godzilla movie. Dougherty is a fanboy who only gave a shit about the monster content and so was happy to let the rest of the film be complete trash. The human cast is utter garbage except for the criminally underused Watanabe and Dance. The score is actually good but the sound mixing is terrible and leaves it berried. There is a character named Rick Stanton who the directed admitted is his Rick and Morty insert character, and his lines are as dreadful as you'd imagine. In fact all the dialogue is terrible, the humor is unbelievably bad.

It was a stupid fucking movie with some good monster content (but even that was chopped up between seconds of the human cast reacting to it).

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Stop focusing on the fucking people.

>It was kino, and quite literally a nigh-perfect godzilla movie
It sucked. The only people who think this are non-Godzilla fans.

It was garbage. Every scene with humans sucked, plot was shit and dialogue was BvS bad.

>don't pay attention to most of the movie! it's supposed to be bad!

>Fans can say how faithful the film was to the old Godzilla movies all they want
It wasn't at all though. Are you serious?

>Because everything that isn’t Marvel or Disney nostalgia grabs is flopping this year.
Plenty of indie or smaller films, John Wick 3, How to Train Your Dragon 3, and the F&F spinoff have done well. But yeah, Disney has owned the blockbuster division. Then again look at the competition. Stuff like X-Men Phoenix and MiB 4.

>DUDE THE GIANT CGI DINOSAUR PUNCHED THE BUILDING AND/OR OTHER MONSTER FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME
At least in capeshit they have different powers and discernible characters

Well it was shit for one, it wasn’t even about Godzilla, it was about a family trying to overcome problems and reunite in the wake of the death of their son, it was incredible how bad it was

Why can't they make a kino stop-motion godzilla using modern animatronics and tasteful applications of cgi?

Modern cinema is so fucking shit. It's all lowest common-denominator cgi bullshit with diarrhea scripts, and all humor just rests on cringe awkwardness with shit character development, fuck.

Why did they pretend it was coming out digitally last week when it gets released this week? Very gay move.

I'm not one of those fans who say it is. It's faithful in some aspects, vastly different in many, many others. But I keep seeing so many others who defend the movie with empty blanket statements like "it's just like every other Godzilla".

Literally the other way around

Add Dora torhat image since shills spammed that flop

They made the main characters psychopaths who want to kill millions for eco bullshit reasons but in the end everything is fine because family.
If the writers don't care about humans then he shouldn't give them so much screen time or make them at least bland. That's better than these assholes.

This.

Because the original release date was the anniversary of Hiroshima and a Monsterverse Godzilla movie is the last thing that needs to be released on that date.

It didn't have ten years of buildup to all the monsters fighting each other like the Avengers did.

It'd be like if they released only Iron Man, Captain America, THEN an Avengers movie where all these different heroes showed up without any explanation of their origin stories aside from 'the exist'.

>giant monsters being around is a good thing because the radiation makes shit grow faster
This movie was mind boggling.

The only kaiju that actually matter to the film are Godzilla and Ghidorah, Rodan and Mothra are window dressing who could easily be written out. What a stupid comparison.

how hard did Dance cringe when they forced him to say long live the king?

I feel Mothra had enough mythology backing it to make it a standalone movie. You could have even had the Alien Twins with a psychic link to her as a part of the plot.

It was a shit movie. I wanted to like it more than any other movie this year but it sucked ass.

Alita and Sha-zang are better than all other movies in that pic though.

>$385 million worldwide

I sure hope someone got fired for that.

But looking at the stats, John wick 3 did worse, Dumbo did just as bad. It seems like it failed because everyone blew their load on avengers and Aladdin that month. Godzilla never had a chance

It didnt tho

>$200 million dollar budget
>Not even $400 million worldwide
it really did

John Wick's budget was over 100 million less than KotM's, and that's just production budget. It did fine.

Yea Forums should have supported Captain Marvel to make it flop

I wish they had ditched the whole family BS and focused just on the scientists. Or just develop one or the other instead of halfassing both and letting them drag the monster parts down.
If there was no family drama getting in the way, they could at least have given the dumb shit spouted by the scientist some actual gravity and time for the viewers to accept it. The fact that monster-radiation is beneficial could have been some big revelation instead of being thrown at us in an exposition dump. It's like they had these big ideas for world-building, but didn't know how to integrate them into the narrative, so they just breeze through them like some checklist, then go back to making terrible quips.

John wick 3 had weird world release dates. Godzilla is a shame because it is just dumb monster flick. But whatever. I guess when they said long live the king they meant Disney

Remember Yea Forums being hyped for this?

(((they))) didn't want the environmental message spread

are those movies supposed to be flops or not? also Yea Forums liked detective pikachu?

I remember the weeks of threads afterwards of rabid kaiju fanboys blindly praising the film and trying to ignore any criticism.

"Godzilla" fans are still buthurt about 2014 Godzilla. Problem is, he had a shit ton of screentime in that film, for a Godzilla film. AKA, american fans just misunderstanding the Godzilla franchise. Then this one just overloads you with fucking everything and it's too much for normies. Also meh reviews kept them away.

first movie I got hyped for in years. Learned my lesson. Also it was hilarious how the only people talking about it on here after it came out were the fanboys

Kino nippon Gojira made it look worse.

having watanabe's character attempt to pull an ironic serizawa sacrifice to call back to the '54 godzilla was the kind of hamfisting that only a cursory fan would even try
not to mention throwing out the oxygen destroyer with exactly zero build up to its use

I don't know why it flopped but it was shit

I promised myself not to get hyped about any film years ago, so I was only moderately excited for this one, and it was still a letdown. At least I liked the trailers and the soundtrack has some neat stuff on it.

>hilarious how the only people talking about it on here after it came out were the fanboys
I think this is why they think that everyone actually loved the movie. Fanboys build up their small echo chambers and go into a meltdown when faced with dissenting opinions. In fact it's still going on on other boards, I checked out the /m/ Godzilla threads and they were a massive hugbox full of insecure autists where almost no criticism of the film was tolerated.

>Directed by the director of Netflix Death Note and starring the same characters as Godzilla 2
Another flop in the making?

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what fucked Death Note was the story and characters
the visuals in that movie wasn't that bad desu

Well, that doesn't sound too promising either.

he directed The Guest which was a good movie

It was rather boring.

We're not talking about the 2014 movie,user

Not MCU

literally only reason

This image didn't age well. They made less COMBINED than Captain Marvel's total

Quick rundown on what happened? Did they do the same thing from the last film where they hide most of the action?

It's capeshit without the social value of Marvel and too grey and boring for kids.

Those movies were supposed to be the ones the audience saw instead of Captain Marvel

It's going straight to HBO Max so odds are it can't flop

It looked like shit. Monsters were barely fully visible during the action and the human characters were walking talking garbage. Count in that we're living in an age were the only movie that make big money are soulless Disney Remakes or superhero films, of course you're gonna have a disaster in your hands.

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These, honestly. Disney is single-handedly ruining everything.

>Kong has the best movie of the trilogy
Based

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The only people that like godzilla are boomers when they were 5

Just saw this today. It's a 6/10 movie. Fun while it's on but has a bad aftertaste. Too hectic, too sloppy. Little characterization. Too "sci fi" compared to the more-grounded Godzilla 2014.

That's factually incorrect, normies are the ones who hate the movie.

Wasn’t an MCU film or a Disney Live-Action remake of a cartoon.

King of the Monsters only made as much money as Roland Emmerich's Godzilla, which means that the latter actually made way more due to inflation.

Godzilla 2014 and Godzilla 1998 made the same amount when adjusting for inflation. Godzilla 2014 had the worst legs of the 3 American Godzilla films and only made more money than King of the Monsters due to the hype. People were expecting a lot out of 2014 and Bryan Cranston was a hot commodity.

The script was pretty bad. Also I felt really bad for Sally Hawkins and her fate left a bad taste in my mouth for the rest of the movie.

It definitely made an effort to be similar in tone to the Toho films. It felt like a Heisei film filtered through the lens of the American blockbuster. Its what I wanted out of an American Godzilla.

>There is a character named Rick Stanton who the directed admitted is his Rick and Morty insert character, and his lines are as dreadful as you'd imagine
yeah this shit worse than anything in the MCU

Shin Godzilla was better, this was shit.

Pleb fuck, kill yourself

>Problem is, he had a shit ton of screentime in that film, for a Godzilla film.
Are you actually braindead? 2014 had the least Godzilla screentime in the entire franchise, second only to Astro Monster.

but I am 19, user

Because it was boring shit with shitty humans hogging the spotlight every fight scene.

flaws with the actual movie aside, the reason it flopped is no one was particularly impressed with either of its predecessors and the film itself didn't have good enough word of mouth to get people to watch after week 1.

A chorus of "ehh, it was ok I guess" does not a blockbuster make.

>Yea Forums supports
>endless threads shitting on Zilla and calling it a flop
If anything you know it's a good movie because present day Yea Forums is a containment board for mass shitposters and has absolute shit taste in movies.

Killing Bryan Cranston and hiding Godzilla for 90% of Godzilla 2014 was a crippling blow to the latest American iteration of Godzilla. Give the public another 20 years to recover like was done after the Matthew Broderick Godzilla.

Honestly the scenes leading to him getting to the Hawaiian beach were pretty cool, like the one of him passing under the boat. All the movie needed at that point was for them to show the full Hawaii fight on screen, even if it was just a 5 minute scuffle. I agree killing the father was bullshit, he should have been kept as either the main protag or go along with the son.

It had nothing to say to a broad audience. The target was its niche cult followers, and it had nothing to say

because he didn't wear a cape, Captain Godzilla would be jino

This.

G2014 had its positives but overall it was murky and joyless, without much in the way of the kind of spectacle and tension that a giant monster movie needs to be enjoyable.

Kong: Skull Island had some good action sequences but was undone by its snide tone and oddly vicious treatment of its cast, brutally killing off many characters for cheap laughs. Probably one of the worst movies I've seen in recent years.

GKOTM was a hectic mess. Nice moments here and there, but lacking in the credible human drama it needed to really come alive.

All three failed to hit the mark. The writing and directing just isn't there to make it all gel.

>I agree killing the father was bullshit, he should have been kept as either the main protag or go along with the son.
Forget Quicksilver. Bryan Cranston + Ken Watanabe would have been a golden pairing.

the main problem is the horrifically bad human plot and characters. They're not even "Godzilla bad", they're fucking unwatchable. The dialogue is retarded and quips undercut every dramatic moment. The fights are cool but you're not invested in the characters or story whatsoever so there's no emotional connection to what's happening with Godzilla or Mothra or anyone. It's just big cgi fight after big cgi fight

What did you think of them?

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>drumpf rhetoric

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The mom deserved to be flayed, drawn, and quartered considering the amount of blood on her hands, but she dies with a stupid smirk and quip

>also Yea Forums liked detective pikachu?
Delusional shitposters made threads saying it was going to "BTFO The Mouse."

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Plebs only interested in capeshit/remakes plus bad marketing and release date, they should have waited until July or August.

Most of us who like giant monster movies don't like to leave home

Shin Godzilla was fucking excellent.

They banked on TV stars and not movie stars.

She was supposed to live in the end. But test audiences didn't respond well to her survival so that was changed.

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What a pile of shit. They made skull island boring. Main characters are boring no memorable dialogue. Bad guys were lame. Horrible filter on the movie. Why do you like this movie.
The fights are a subversive pile of boring.

I’m still sad it didn’t do well. I enjoyed it so much on the big screen.

What a fucking stupid idea.

This.

Interesting point.

I agree.

Fucking this.They managed to get the stupidest team of artists to helm these films. Imagine of paul verhoeven was given the movie rights.

This. Focus on bryan cranston slowly becoming obsessed with kaiju. Showing us that kaiju can not only literally/physically destroy people's lives. But mentally as well => Bryan was obsessed with discovering what kaiju were.

>tfw saw this sitting next to a MILF
going to the next Godzilla movie for sure

Because it doesn't satisfy the four quadrants. I didn't see any women or girls at the show I went to on opening weekend, and extrapolated, that's like half the possible national audience uninterested. At least in capeshit females can get hot over beefy dudes in tight outfits being charming. Godzilla offers none of that.

>awakens ghidorah because "MUH PLANET" then changes her mind almost immediately after he wakes up
Dumb bitch was dumb.

It was a bad movie but we are on Yea Forums so let's pretend all is Disney's fault
>T. 33 years Gojirafan

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explain in 30 words or less the following character's motivations as portrayed in the film.

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All those movies except Godzilla are shit though. Shazam is capeshit, Pokemon are for manchildren and Alita is for pedoniggers

1 - Cranston's character died like 30 minutes into 2014, leaving the rest of the movie void of any character or human drama worth a fart
2 - Gareth Edwards's artistic choice of not showing much of godzilla and hiding him in darkness when he does is the complete opposite of what japan has been doing and what the audience has come to expect from a godzilla movie
3 - it's been 5 fucking years since the previous godzilla movie
4 - pacific rim movies have already made it clear that kaiju won't bring money in unless they're made on a "small" budget, like shin
5 - the movie has its share of issues but since the MCU is so damn popular despite all the trash it does, those probably don't matter much

No matter how you look at it, KotM pulling the numbers it did is already impressive considering how hard the desk was stacked against it.

He was very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very evil
Jokes aside, how the fuck they waste Charles Dance?
>Inb4 his character will be more relevant in the next movie!!!

> the movie has its share of issues but since the MCU is so damn popular despite all the trash it does, those probably don't matter much
Why not?

the only one word
ENDGAME

All the professional reviewers claimed it had too much monster fights.

Wants to use kaiju to reset earth without humans.

Rebirth

As wrong as one can be. Godzilla fans love it for how faithful and full of affection it is. Soulless normies who love soulless movies hate it.

Nonsensical plot, lead actor is a cardboard cutout, none of the humans matter, only 3 monsters

>faithful
No monster suit in sight. Everything is cgi. Bad cgi at that.

It did have way too much boring-ass drama though. Like they introduced the eco-terrorists whining about overpopulation and shit but never really did anything with it.

Can we all agree that the new ones look like garbage. Even from the first one. Why are th

Because the American Godzilla is shit and doesn't work.

kek, when dc make a better marvel film than marvel

poor advertising, bad reviews and godzilla still being niche. it'll probably break even though.

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SNeeD

everyone wanted to see it...but then James gave it a lukewarm review. Most people don't care about the critics when it comes to godzilla movie...they only care about James opinion, a known curator of Godzilla films. He said it wasn't bad, but you can tell he had mixed opinions about it. And nobody is going to see a movie based on the "lukewarm" reception. Godzilla 2 will flop. It was too fucking dark. Simple as.

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Based James.

because it was shit and written and directed by a hack

The CGI was great, and that's not what faithful means. Most people weren't upset about Zilla being CGI, they were upset about him getting mogged by fighter jets which the real Godzilla squashes like Mosquitoes

Silly user, my movie didn't flop, it was the greatest kino of 2016 even!
Get your shitty American flick OUT

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Cringe. Go back to Yea Forums and take your disheveled hobo psychopath "Director" with you

There are multiple reasons why kotm performance wan't so hot, Endgame definitely is one of them.

James has such weird opinions at times, like with Covenant.

>have all the money in the world
>VFX studios that can do whatever you want and make it look great
>have literally every fight take place in the dark while its raining

WHY DID THEY DO THIS

FUCK THIS MOVIE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>They made the main characters psychopaths who want to kill millions for eco bullshit reasons but in the end everything is fine because family

If you pay attention to the end credits, you realize that Emma's actions were actually right all along, with the only exception being releasing Ghidorah, but hey, that was just some really bad luck that he turned out to be some vicious alien trying to kill everyone.

Only KSI understood how to use monsters. GvK is out last hope.

>KSI director cited Evangelion as inspiration
based

They absoutely didn't need Charles Dance for this role. The guy can make a shit movie shine when his part is given a bit of respect, like in Dracula Unleashed where the movie was good for the whole 5 minutes he was on screen.

Superhero films are the only thing keeping hollywood afloat though

People act like marvel is killing cinema when the reality is that it was dying long before Marvel came along.

Bc the Jews only wanted the inverted Christian theme of Marvel to prevail. While the kino that was KotM was about destroying a false god and restoring faith in the true king