>Araki set up Th World to have the powers of all the stand users but forgot to give it to him
>Araki wanted to have Josuke use BTD to go back in time and save himself but he forgot
>Araki had to write Fugo out because he was too powerful
>Araki’s writing got so convoluted he came up with Pussy resetting the universe and creating the SBR universe
Can someone tell me why Araki is such a fucking hack?
Wrong board bucko, but atleast part 7 is the kinoest part
The hook of Jokuske being saved by himself as a child and that being why he was so defensive aabout his hair was cool. When it was clear it wasnt going to be elaborated I dropped
Universe reset is a stupid trope
Fuck outta here with this shit pro homo wanna be fist of the north star.
>make a villain
>make him overpowered
>so overpowered that he can only be defeated with an asspull (star platinum can suddenly stop time, gold experience requiem)
I love jojo but the writing is a bit poor
I thought we watch it for the 20 minute oras?
6 > 7 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 5 > 1
prove me wrong
nice bait you retard faggot, not a single thing you wrote here is true
Where is Th World? Is Th World different from earth?
>Araki set up Th World to have the powers of all the stand users but forgot to give it to him
Changed his mind, realized it was a stupid idea pretty early.
>Araki wanted to have Josuke use BTD to go back in time and save himself but he forgot
Again, changed his mind.
>Araki had to write Fugo out because he was too powerful
This is where you truly expose how utterly clueless and retarded you are. He wrote out Fugo because his initial intention for the character was to have him be an inside man for The Boss, who ends up betraying the gang and is killed by Giorno. But Araki was a depressed fuck at the time and couldn't bring himself to have Fugo betray Bruno because he liked Bruno too much.
>Araki’s writing got so convoluted he came up with Pussy resetting the universe and creating the SBR universe
Universe reset didn't really change shit outside of the lives of most the main cast of part 6. The SBR universe is completely unrelated to the part 6 reset.
Why would you make such a stupid, uninformed thread, let alone why would you make it on tv?
The 11 men shooutout in the casino was kino af.
Star Platinum being the same stand as the World was foreshadowed since the beginning of the part. The main fight of part 5 is the race to get the arrow, the climax is gaining the arrow, not the fight with GER. The point of GER is to serve as an extremely ironic and poetic way for Diavolo to be defeated. The man whose power is to erase cause but maintain effect is stuck in an eternal loop where the cause of his death is played over and over but the effect can never happen.
>Again, changed his mind.
No he didn't, he never intended to do that in the first place, it's just a retarded fan theory.
star platinum also being able to stop time was obvious
>at least 5 years until it gets animated
FUCK
>he thinks the universe was reset
Speedreader
>Araki set up Th World to have the powers of all the stand users but forgot to give it to him
He didn’t forget. That was the original intention, but Araki realized how fucking stupid and convoluted the ensuing battle would be.
>Araki wanted to have Josuke use BTD to go back in time and save himself but he forgot
Gonna need a source on that, pretty sure that’s head canon based on the story about how Josuke was saved.
>Araki had to write Fugo out because he was too powerful
This I’ll give you, he dug himself into a hole with Purple Haze. Honestly I would’ve preferred if he died instead of bailing.
>Araki’s writing got so convoluted he came up with Pussy resetting the universe and creating the SBR universe
What’s wrong with changing the setting for the next arc based on what happened in the previous arc? I think it was a good idea to keep things fresh.
Neither are asspulls. Jotaro having the same kind of stand was implied by the fact that his stand awoke at the same time Dio’s stand did, due to their bloodline connection. As for GER, it was basically stated that whoever got the arrow would win, thus an entire arc about getting it first. It’s anticlimactic, sure, but not an asspull. For the record Jojo has a bunch of other asspulls
Literally everything you wrote was incorrect
>Araki set up Th World to have the powers of all the stand users but forgot to give it to him
You know, I can read nip and own just about every JoJo-related artbook and books with interviews in it (like the one where you learn English phrases with translations Richie Kotzen from Poison worked on), but I've only ever seen this point anywhere but on Yea Forums. Never in an Araki interview or on any of the info-rich JoJo fansites that actually shut down when foreign IPs started showing on there and direct linking to them.
Purple Haze isn't strong, it's actually kind of shit. It's short ranged, hard to control, and the ability isn't really that versatile. Any of the long ranged stands in part 5 would have killed Fugo.
SBR and Jojolion are alternate universe.
Part 6 reset didn't happen because the events didn't go past the moment where Pucci activated MIH, he literally says it will fail otherwise.
After his death all that happend is there is a new cycle that is exactly the same as the previous one but with some name changes.
New "Jotaro" still experienced all the shit in parts 3 and 4. SBR is not in that universe since parts 1 and 2 still happened too.
>Purple Haze isn’t strong
>Can Punch through walls with one hit
>Araki set up Th World to have the powers of all the stand users but forgot to give it to him
nothing hints to this
>2 years until gay priest of fast
At least we get new Evangelion next year and it will be a glorious heap of shit
I think this theory might have come from the implication that DIO was able to heal Pucci's foot, leading people do believe he at least has control of an ability like crazy diamond, basically DIO has all the Joestar bloodline stands, not sure how it was intended to be read as though
This is another bullshit theory invented by Yea Forums and spoken of nowhere in Japan.
Tell me next about how The World was going to have King Crimson's time-snipping based on Hol Horse and the spiderwebs or Polnareff on the stairs. That's something else I read on Yea Forums.
I didn't say I believed the theory, just telling you why I think it exists
Why is he so angry?
I really thought he’d have a strange voice, but no, typical male.
>Araki wanted to have Josuke use BTD to go back in time and save himself but he forgot
You fucking idiot's need to stop it with this bullshit meme. This was never going a thing you anime-only niggerfaggot.
>2 years
Says who?
Why did Jolyne and the gang show up at the end when they got murdered and wasn’t part of the “reset”? I also don’t understand the science of moving everything forward so fast it will inevitably loop back on it self and your future becomes your past and future simultaneously. Is part 7 and 8 being in an alternate universe related to the events in Part 6? Is it just a “this is what happened to all those other parts” thing?
Pls no bully, it’s been a year since I last read 6, and it’s the only part I don’t get
SP was never just mega fast, it was an allusion to his time stopping.
which is why he couldn't catch up to tower of grey, the first stand user they are attacked by
You're a legit dumbass. They existed in the new universe that had played out up until that point but with different identities.
He sped time up in the universe to its heat death and it was rebirthed ya fuckin simp
Pucci wanted to create a world where everyone knows their Fate beforehand. To do so he evolved his stand into Made In Heaven. MiH sped up time until the universe approached it's end and then rebirth. His world was achieved but Emporio killed him, which cause the universe to reset again into the Ireneverse. Those who died during the reset where replaced with similar people, but their souls and memory are gone (Jolyne/Irene). Parts 1-5 still happened, the Jotaro clone still fought DIO, 6 was the only part that didn't because Pucci was erased completely from existence, no similar stand-in. Part 7-8 is a completely separate reboot that has nothing to do with the events of part 6.
Honestly it's amazing that any manga is even readable considering the fact that it's just one overworked jap fucker drawing and writing everything by themselves (initially, obviously they get staff to assist them later but they still do the bulk of the work). Western comics are dogshit 99% of the time and that's with a writer/artist team.
KC isnt that overpowered, hes just really strong in 1v1 fights. everything about part 5 is a retelling of Jesus's life. Diavolos death is fitting. if the arrow wasnt a factor, diavolo would get bodied by mista, giorno and trish
Josuke saving himself is completely fucking retarded and ruins his entire character. The foundation of his personality is being saved by a random act of kindness that he went out of his way to pay forward to the rest of the town. The Golden Heart of Morioh doesn't exist if Josuke's backstory is a self-sustaining time loop
Dio uses Hermit Purple.
Yeah but HOW did it loop back to where they were? The only other manga I know of to mention anything like it was Fire Punch when the antagonist was moving civilization forward to the point where it can recreate Star Wars all the way to TFA.
Is that why Emporio cried because the Jolyne and co. That he knew were dead? Is that why they showed up in the sky?
Thanks that cleared it up besides the rebirth thing. Wouldn’t that lead to altering history entirely instead of looping back to where they were? I think I’m overthinking this plot point too much.
On a week to week basis too. I’m pretty sure the Golgo 13 guy is still making manga but with gloves on because his fingerprints have been dusted off.
Yeah, he cried because they existed but they weren't the same people since they got offed by Pussy. Hence the different names.
>CHANGED HIS MIND
way to tell what kind of retard set things up only to drop them halfway through, even admitting that's what actually happened. the only one that kinda makes sense is the Dio's stand because his name and the actual power don't really match together.
the whole way he managed fugo makes no sense, a blank slate of a character that had a completely broken stand and who left the team for no reason at all. him leaving the team adds literally nothing to the story, but in general part 5 is the worst imo
>if the arrow wasnt a factor, diavolo would get bodied by mista, giorno and trish
What? None of them could stand to Diavolo
I’m leaving was a way to illustrate how dangerous going down the path was one was the first dwindling of their numbers before Abba died
When?
JoJo is a TV show faggot. That's like saying Simpsons threads aren't allowed here because Yea Forums exists.
>makes sense is the Dio's stand because his name and the actual power don't really match together.
I remember it was said that the name came from how Dio's stand is so powerful that he is going to dominate the world with it.
Not him but he uses it multiple times throughout part 3, right from the start. Dio is shown to use the powers of every Joestar that was alive when he was. He uses Hermit purple, Star Platinum, Crazy Diamond (when he heals Pucci's foot) and Gold Experience (the weird plant shit with his bone in part 6 creating new life).
well simspsons threads aren't allowed for different reasons
What? I’m pretty sure Giorno didn’t start getting his Gold Experience powers until well after Dio died.
>everything about part 5 is a retelling of Jesus's life
Wait, what??
When Dio was alive all Joestar's stands began to activate, that's why Josuke got sick. It's not specifically stated what was happening to Giorno at the time, but it is shown that he was subconsciously using GE when he was basically a toddler. The part where he grows the vines around the wounded man. The stand always exists in your soul, even if you haven't manifested it yet.
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huh you're right. i completely forgot about that.
Wrong board and you're wrong about everything you just said.
>Araki wanted to have Josuke use BTD to go back in time and save himself but he forgot
That's just a shitty fan theory that makes no sense at all.
>he skipped over the part of the gospels where Jesus beats the shit out of a mad doctor and then throws his body into a garbage truck
This. Araki didn’t even come up with Kira until a few chapters before his introduction
It isn't, that guy is kind of retarded. But it takes a lot of symbolism and reference from christianity. Giorno is essentially god, Diavolo is the devil. The Rolling Stones guy has HEAVY Jesus vibes (long hair, crown of thorns, Mista shoots him in both palms, so he has holes in his palms like where Jesus had holes in his palms from his crucifixion.), The pose where Giorno is holding Mista after he almost shoots himself to death is the same pose as Mary holding Jesus.
That's not really what part 5 is about though, for the most part. The main underlying themes of part 5 are fate and belief/determination to create a better future and find your own truth.
It is still a shitty ending
normal japanese mangaka writing style: create enemies that are way to strong and get taken out in a underwelming way
Part 5 is underrated.
Part 4 is overrated.
It isn't. The boss spent his entire life literally cheating fate and escaping his death, only to end up being stuck in an infinite loop of having to face his death over and over without having to die.
It's not the ending regardless, Sleeping Slaves is. Which is arguably the best chapter in the entire series.
>The pose where Giorno is holding Mista after he almost shoots himself to death is the same pose as Mary holding Jesus.
what fight was that? Mista gets shot by his own bullets a lot of times
White Album
White Album.
the leading up to and the sandman fight are my favorites
>Unironically writes whatever the fuck he feels like
>Hack
He's based and looks like a jap Todd Howard
He's like a million years old and never gave a fuck about writing. What are you on about? Not even a fan of JoJo (watched only like three season finales), but it's obvious it is a show about style and symbolisms rather than making sensical plots.
You could even say its stories are ... Bizarre.
I miss Jonathan
>talk about how OP king crimson is
>Diavolo nearly dies every time he’s on screen
>effortlessly mogged in the final battle
>split personality doesn’t even come up again
S5 conclusion was really anticlimactic.
>part 1-5 still happened in the reserved universe
Any source on this?
Source on those
You also left out that Araki has literally either forgotten or written Kyo Nijimura (the family maid) in part 8 out of the story entirely
they're all headcanon made up by people assblasted that Araki didn't write the story how they wanted
Gee I wonder why
>asspull (star platinum can suddenly stop time,
>suddenly
He always could. What was his Stand power before facing Za Warudo? Just punching really fast?
It wasn't revealed until the end, he could always slow time down to punch so fast.
see
Its gonna be two years for sure
Pucci's new world just forced everyone to know about and follow their Fates. Logically events like the Joestar/Dio conflict and the fight with Kira would still play out. Pucci also transferred everyone who didn't die to the new world, so the part 4 crew and Giorno would still be okay just like Emporio was.
It wouldn't make sense for Part 7 to replace Part 1 since the Joestar family tree is much different in Part 8.
But jojo does gay poses so it's based?
DIO using the powers of Crazy Diamond and Gold Experience are just fan theories. DIO still had his vampire powers from Part 1 as well as Johnathon's body. We see Johnathon grow flowers using hamon and DIO's blood brought Vanilla Ice back from the dead (though it turned him into a vampire himself. My personal theory is that he was able to heal Pucci with vampire powers and the bone creating life comes from Johnathon's old powers since technically it would be his bone when you think about it.
He wrote Fugo out because he initially wanted to make him betray the gang but as the story went on he didnt want to anymore
That’s objectively bullshit. No way Araki would write a part without at least the villain in mind beforehand. You’re taking araki forgot memes too seriously.
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>No way Araki would write a part without at least the villain in mind beforehand.
Did you not read his authors notes? Have you not noticed Kira is the only villain not there from the start?
>>Araki set up Th World to have the powers of all the stand users but forgot to give it to him
Boring, time stop was a much better idea.
>>Araki wanted to have Josuke use BTD to go back in time and save himself but he forgot
Better for the villain to have it, kept the theme of time power villains.
>>Araki had to write Fugo out because he was too powerful
Actual fault.
>>Araki’s writing got so convoluted he came up with Pussy resetting the universe and creating the SBR universe
It was supposed to be the end of JoJo, but it was decided to be kept going.
I was thinking about HOW Dio stabbed himself with the arrow? Did he stabbed Jonathans body or his neck? Anyways what if Jonathan's Stand is actually Dio's and Za Warduo being Jonathan's Stand? It would make sense. If Za Warudo can stop time and is Jonathan's Stand it's not an asspull if Jotaro's Star Platinum can also stop time.
The World is DIO's Stand, not-Hermit Purple was likely Jonathan's, but Jonathan was probably able to awaken something similar in the one descendant that could defeat DIO.
“The Passion” is a vine-like stand similar to Joseph’s in that it allows him to project visions like Hermit Purple, and I have no doubt that it could conduct Hamon.
Araki has said that if the cast of Part 3 went to Part 2 and met Young Joseph, he would have vines around him, a trait shared by Hamon users. It is only when pierced by the arrow that the full potential of a Hamon stand is realized. This also could explain Joseph’s bizarre ability to “predict” his opponents next words. (Though that bit is all headcannon)
Part 4 manga is better than part 5 by a landslide
Part 5 anime adaption is better than 4's.
Simple as that and has been the general consensus for years,zoomers drooling over the boring shitfest that is 5 cant convince me otherwise.
i don't think the world would have d's all over it if it werent dio's
You could have just said the third reasoning as "changed his mind" because that was what literally happened
And its still dumb as fuck because he kills of narancia like fucking nothing and fugo gets off scot free
Think about the implication
In fact remember that VA takes place on like a week span, Mista shot himself roughly every 12 hours.
he gets shot with his own bullets in literally every fight where he fires his gun, except for Notorious BIG
>20 minutes
Amateur shit.
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Where the fuck did the “Fugo is too powerful” meme come from? His range is too short to be OP. Yeah, you’re fucking done if he gets close enough to punch you but that applies to almost any basic bitch punchghost.
>Pussy resetting the universe and creating the SBR universe
True. I only really liked the Passione boys in 5 when I read the manga but the anime was a massive fucking improvement. I kept trying to tell someone the part 4 anime would be their favorite, but when that was airing even I was a little let down because I really enjoyed the manga.
I used to read Jojo when I was a lot younger. Very strange to see his resurgence in popularity. But the cartoons seems mediocre as shit
>But the cartoons seems mediocre as shit
It really isn't.
Honestly, it's one of the best and most faithful anime adaptations ever made
>tfw no more Fist of The North Castlevania adventures
>no bitesize seasons that get their stories across with little filler
>one or two musical references replaced with full-blown meme naming on everything
>healers every season that lessen the impact of the battles
>no OP/ED combo has come close to Phantom blood
shame
>Purple Haze wasn't overpowered, Fugo would have been bodied by Diavolo.
The only reason the gang was able to hurt King Crimson is due to Spice girl Softening KC's fist and Sex pistols being a long range stand.
>>one or two musical references replaced with full-blown meme naming on everything
literally every character in part 1 other than Johnathan and George are named after musicians you fucking zoomer
KC didn't feel as alien and bizarre as it should have. I heard someone suggesting that only the little face should talk in the same deep voice.
>reddit spacing
>bruno gets ressurected (jesus ressurection)
>giorno (son of dio aka god) fights the devil and wins
>fugo betrays his own team (judas iscariot)
>diavolo suffers for eternity (jesus declares his victory over satan)
>giorno befriends trish who is an offspring of diavolo (mary magdalene who was a whore, befriends jesus)
>passione (jews and pharisees silencing jesus and his disciples)
its more like an anime gangster modern retelling of the first 5 books of the new testament along with godfather and goodfellas elements. this is all from my perspective though
So why did they decide to add a cape to Purple Haze in the anime? I swear to god I don't remember that from the manga.
>rolling stones plays the role of prophets foretelling jesus and his sacrafice
>bruno, narancia, and abacchio playing said role of sacrafice
>giorno convincing former sinners aka gangstar squad to join him
obviously its not gonna be a 1 for 1 retelling so roles are split and given to multiple people and plot points are told at different times.
Can you point to me in which part of the bible does god fight against devil you humongous fucking retard you have no idea what you're even talking about
>Hurr there was a betrayal, muh judas!
Fugo didn't even betray them. All of your examples are extreme fucking reaching jesus christ. I'm sorry did I say jesus christ, looks like my post is a retelling of jobs suffering because god knows I suffer reading your bullshit. The christian imagery was there because Araki loves his foreign culture and christianity happens to be fucking huge in Italy and a big par of its history, there's literally nothing more to it. Like a western who puts some ying and yang symbols in his work because it looks cool
3 days. he descended into hell and declared his victory over the devil. it obviously wasnt much of a fight as hes god *cough*. fugo was originally meant to betray the gangstars but araki decided to scrap it because he was depressed at the time and didnt like the idea of friends betraying. why are you so autistically mad that someone has a different interpretation of what they watch?
>dio can use jonathan's body to stop time with the world
>but jonathan's own descendant could never learn to
lol did you miss the part where Jotaro noticed hwo similar their stands were?
Because your "interpretation" is reddit-tier reaching and you're a gargantuan faggot
>they have biblical names and he did a pose, this must mean it's the retelling of the bible!
>ah yes this character is female and this character in the bible was a female, nevermind the fact that they're nothing alike thematically but they have boobs so it fits
every fucking time. You have never even read the bible
pal, i never said any of that stuff and you are blatantly ignoring what im saying to just start an argument. go yell at a wall or something. youll get the same reaction you get from me.
part 4 is clearly better
Araki would have to write completely around Purple Haze.
Yet another bullshit theory is that Green Day and Oasis was going to be Fugo and PH as the party's adversary.
I'm still kind of mad Owner of a Lonely Heart wasn't the part 2 ED.
They're both rated just fine, you're a fangirl with shit taste.
I like your theory my man. Not a Christian so I never thought of it like that.
Part 6 doesn't have a healer iirc
>literally every character in part 1 other than Johnathan and George
Araki claims this wasn't his reason for the name, but he's too big of a Beatles fan for me to not believe that he wasn't at least subconsciously influenced. That and the dad's name is George? I mean, come on now.
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>hamon
A vampire can’t use Hamon, it would destroy him. Joseph was able to hurt dio by wrapping his stand in hamon
Bloody Stream > Sono Chi No Sadame > Crazy Noisy Bizarre town > Fighting Gold = Traitor's Requiem > Great Days > Stand Proud > Chase > End of the World
Roundabout > I want you > Last Train Home > Oingo & Boingo = Hol Horse & Boingo > Walk Like an Egyptian = Modern Crusaders > Freak N' You
>point to me in which part of the bible does god fight against devil
>I am a retard that is completely unfamiliar with catholic biblical canon
A-user, you understand that the Vatican is right next to Rome. Right user-kun?
Wait, Fuck.
I was certain that Irene was Jolyne that had escaped from prison, and she just called herself Irene as a cover name or something.
Emporio and Pucci arrives in the prison around the time Jotaro meets Jolyne right?
Why is her name changed?
New continuity where these character's counterparts miraculously cross paths because of fate and stuff. No idea if Irene is related to the Higashikatas of JoJolion but it doesn't matter anyway because you're supposed to feel what Emporio feels.
Formerly allowed
How?
Stop being rude
>jojo
>consistency, writing
no, you come to this series for the cool factor, the logic and "pulse" of it's brand of fights, and neat/horrifying designs and art. if you're wondering why it isn't written well try to remember you're reading a week-to-week comic and enjoy the crazy asspulls.
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You do realize Jonathan and Joseph were healers too right?
Top is completely wrong but I agree with the bottom
Polnareff illustrates how someone like Fugo could beat Diavolo using Silver Chariot. As long as they are aware of his powers they could arguably beat him working together. The only reason he got the drop on the gang was because he was in Mista’s body with Trish.
hamon is also sometimes life force. it seems like the hamon they usually use is the sun energy shit, and then the really powerful hamon comes from the soul and is more like a last resort kind of energy. hamon follows absolutely no rules so i could see it being possible that dio used it
hes supposed to be crazy, not pissed off. if you look at manga king crimson, he is nowhere near as FUCKING PISSED as he is in the anime
based but for me its the ringo and gyro standoff
No. The Ripple is literally the energy if the sun. Vampiric power is its antithesis. The only way for Dio to use it would be to become an Ultimate Thing. His hybridization with Jonathan's torso kept him weak to Ripple energy, and there's no way to generate himself unless he used the breathing technique that blew Straizo's body apart.
Your post literally contradicts itself. The rebirth gave birth to similar people with similar faith yet 7-8 are supposedly completely separate yet theyre constantly referencing names and events from previous parts.
every manga artist is a fucking hack
I always thought of Hermit Purple as “the stand you get when you master Hamon” and Dio using the arrow just skipped passed the mastery part. Just like how in Part 7 mastering Spin gave you Ball Breaker.
obvious cumbrain that cannot even explain how King Crimson works
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Why hasn't the anime ever been this good.
Why hasn’t there been a single good Jojo game?
>Great Days not at the top
>Fighting Gold on the same level as Traitors Reqiuem
>Modern Crusaders that low
Fucking yikes my dude
This
0 for 3, fucking hell mate
You are wrong though
It was
Yeah no, irene has jolynes soul, araki said so himself. He also said that irene has the feelings and love that jolyne experienced in the other dimension. The only difference is that irene lived in a world where pucci never existed.