If you made a sci-fi universe would you have biological or mechanical assimilators in it?

What's the thing on the right?

Ideological

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What a lovely sci-fi horror story you've created.

The Flood from the Halo universe. I personally like them better from an aesthetic and narrative point of view than the replicators

The thing on the left looks dumb.

Then you'll like 40K because it's that but older.

With sufficiently advanced technology, what would be the difference?

It's obviously an incel of its alien race.

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name a more kino villain

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Both. Skynet vs. the Thing.

Sci-fi story about a massive horde of biological and mechanical warring and unable to assimilate each other so just going for all out destruction while trying to devour all other races between it all.

Who needs biological assimilators when you could have a biological assimilating battle creature?

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Reminds me of the villain from the Men in Black, the guy who surgically grafted a bunch of alien shit into the his body and got less and less human every time he appeared. Series went to shit after S1 but the villain was cool.

man he look spooky dooky here

Oh yeah Alpha! Aptom is pretty much Alpha meets the Thing. Constantly consuming tissue samples from various Zoanoids and becoming more and more badass. Pic related is his current form.

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I’ve got a Hydra Devourer Swarm Empire called the Bacillean Vector. It’s pretty kino.

god

but 40k is trash

It's better when the writers aren't taking it ultra serious.

I'd go either option 3 or option Ω.

>option 3
Neither biological nor mechanical, but both. Hyper Virus are biological-like psuedo-organisms that function like the Flood, but have to intelligence, no minds, and operate purely on a mechanical level to infiltrate and mutate biological oranisms.

>option Ω
A creature from a higher dimension/Lovecraftian origin which feeds on the hyper real of sentient minds, influences normal space which leads to "mirror creatures" which mimic it's assimilation creating all 3 assimilators: biological, mechanical, and viral, plus the hidden hyper space psychic assimilators.

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biological assimilators that are controlled by nanobots all controlled by a massive singular AI unit in a place far far away

I like that it was actually smart and not just some dumb science abomination acting reactively

>laughs at the ideas of Duty and religion seeing Chief and Arby as two of the same
>tells them to get their shit together
>spent years mindbreaking a fucking ROBOT AI until it convinced it that assimilation was the greater good for all speicies

kino

biological IS mechanical, once your tech is good enough there is no difference

To be biological it needs to have developed that way through evolution and natural selection, not through deliberate tampering or artifice. Selective breeding, for instance, even though it takes place through natural channels, is artificial. A species that came to be because its surroundings called for an all-devouring assimilator, not because a few members said they should strive towards it. In this case, the biological assimilator is probably only as intelligent as a cunning animal, it wouldn't have access to the technology of an assimilated species, but likely wouldn't need it considering it has both numbers and virulence.

In that case, a technological assimilator would be more powerful because it could have the numbers and virulence of a biological one, but have access to technology because it exists explicitly due to artifice. Unless it was designed to act biologically, but if something had the ability to create a galaxy-devouring technological assimilator, then it probably had the ability to endow the assimilator with the know-how to assume other technology.

Idk what "assimilators" are exactly, but I'd have the actual aliens be biological and have them be in big mechanical ships or suits. Pretty kino

Like the Borg from Star Trek, Flood from Halo, the Cybermen from Doctor Who, or the Thing Thing. They assimilate things into their numbers, they turn you into them, like the Thing infects you and turns you into it. The Flood from Halo would kill entire solar systems and repurpose the biomass of the dead. The Borg would take humanoid species' and replace biological components with Borg tech, turning you into a biomechnical slave of a hivemind. The body snatchers from Invasion of the Body Snatchers would replace people with perfect hivemind copies.

>It's another generic hive mind aliens episode
This shit stopped being new and interesting 40 years ago. It's the most generic shit imaginable at this point, why would you continue doing it?

>not both

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This.
I wonder who came up with the synth designs for HL2.

I imagine he has other works.
It would be a shame if his designs died with HL2.

If phages could ever be weaponized, they would destroy the entire planet within days.

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Glados cause fuck halo and fuck consoles.

>ywn be forcefully transformed into a bipedal mech

>ywn see cool shit like this in vidya again

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GB2R
Glados is the most pleb answer you could give

But it fits.
You have that cumsock from halo and you have that bondage woman from valve
It even came out at the same time.
I dont know shodan or whatever.

What the FUCK are viruses, they spook the shit out of me

literal perfection

Legos on the left

>tfw if they decide to phages can whipe out any living bacteria on the planet
>tfw out of the many diffrent strains there might be one somewhere that will kill anything in its sight including humans

youtube.com/watch?v=h3LDKpfWyhg

I have never played a halo game and I am proud of it.

Just kidding I just dont want to buy an x box. I heard the lore is pretty interesting and full of bullshit, is it true? And would it be successful as a movie/tv show?

>And would it be successful as a movie/tv show?
No, all the attempts to make it into one suck ass. The only decent halo media are one-off shorts.

>assimilators
A what?

ASS
WE
CAN

Borg?

That is mashup of all of these.
btw startrek a shit

Nature is trial and error
Science is trial and error
Anything created scientifically is a form of evolution, thus organic

>all the attempts
there have been attempts?

Reminder that the soviets were the only nation studying how to use Phages as medical treatment because it's a better curative than any drug and with 0 side effects

>Skynet vs. The Thing
That’s an awesome concept

No, it would be intelligent, aware tampering with what otherwise, untouched, would happen. Mindless.

>I literally have no idea how gene editing works
t. suxdix

Mimetic

Chemical molecules of a complex nature that self-replicate.

I wish I knew what this meant, all I've been led to believe is that they're pseudo-living boxes of DNA that require another organism to replicate themselves

RELAX

Loved it's speech. I haven't even played the games yet. It's a shame that the MCU copied Halo's gun with starlord and those ring ships in infinty war. What the fuck. Why hasn't anyone noticed?

>pseudo-living boxes of DNA
Yeah. That's pretty much just a very complex molecule carrying out chemical reactions that result in more of the molecule.

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Why was Gravemind so cool?
In fact, every alien from Halo 2 was cool as fuck. It's odd how the writing for that one game was miles above any other Halo game even while Bungie was still making them.

>pseudo-living
Don't let pseudo-living get to you. It's just a term because the definition of life is very abstract, vague and debated.

Here is a thought exercise scientists do. Come up with a checklist of requirements that need to be met to be considered alive. Then see if fire meets those requirements. For example

>consumes
>metabolizes
>growths
>reproduces
>dies

Fire consumes things, metabolizes them turning them into ash, fire can grow bigger, fire can make more fire and so reproduce and finally fire can be extinguished. So according to my example checklist fire is a living being.

The idea of fire as a living thing is pretty spooky. I just wonder how viruses came to be if nothing else on the planet is really like them. Are they parasitic? or are parasites viral? They both require other beings for sustenance/reproduction and generally are pretty negative for the host's wellbeing. It's a pretty vague and general comparison and I doubt it's very correct. I'm not a biologist, nor academically minded, I just find this stuff interesting.

It blurs the line between biology and chemistry. Really they don't need other living things just other DNA or molecules and chemical resources.
Look at another disease, prions. Prions are basically just protein molecules. But they are misshapen and went they encounter a regular protein molecule it becomes misshapened and now is another prion.
Viruses are like several levels of more complex steps above that.

The mechanical ones ended up looking like regular people in SG1.

>mfw

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I think that's how it should be. Aliens should be alien; if they're easy to define then what's even the point?

Fire doesn't take up physical space, which seems like a reasonable requirement for life imo.

Google says fire is matter and takes up space leaving it still alive. Checkmate waterfags.

Prions are where it's at Brah, They are infectious information bearing Proteins. They resist denaturation at heats approaching the melting point of zinc. youtube.com/watch?v=NOQbHvvs-JE

“Our hubris shone like a black star… for our technology, our war-machines were your kin. How easily you turned them against us. We were forced to older means. Not circuits, nor light… but flesh and disease. Our horrors past, our ravaged outer colonies… became gardens!”

So both

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Fuck I love Stellaris so much Fren.

Why is it so hard to make space opera kino?

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Was it kino?

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Life, without the life part.
It's a very hot debate. They are in every way you can think "alive" but lack certain classic definition requirements.
The real fascinating thing about viruses isnt the virus itself, it's how it interacts with living things. We are starting to learn more and more that just like us large multicellular organisms require hostinf colonies of bacteria to function (you yourself right now would die if the bacteria in your gut were killed off). But viruses too. I recently saw a study that a certain virus played a key role in the development of lamb embryos in the womb.

>why yes I only ever play as the commonweath of man with base stats how could you tell?

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>Way ahead of you bro, custom race with one racial trait.
It's Talented

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Both. There are many possibilities of cosmic horrors.

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40k's issue is that it's a joke setting that forgot its punchline. Anyone who actually takes it seriously should be bullied.

Phanges are just what our creators use to interact with this dimension

Explain please anons I'm scared

>you yourself right now would die if the bacteria in your gut were killed off
lol no

Killing off your gut bacteria would certainly reduce your standard of health substantially but it wouldn't kill you.

Virophage therapy, right? Where they cultivate specific viruses to target other types of viruses and bacteria? I have a vague understanding of what it is, but I don't know the specifics too well.

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>the Worm in waiting
lazy design though

Wrong user. A true killing off of your intestinal flaura would kill you. They are essential to your digestion and you would bot be able to get enough nutrients to live without them. Not instant, but you would die eventually of starvation.

I'd have two different races, one would be organic (humanoid, probably) facing a threat from mechanical monsters while another race on a different planet would be mechanical with an organic infestation. Swap POV, maybe have them meet up or just not. Cash the check.

Easier to make generic love story of capeshit quipfest.

is this what homosexual zoomers believe?
that some dipshit that I had to duckduckgo is up there?

this, they are god's nanomachines, son

Secrets agencies or groups controlling the world or entire regions using the modern society´s structures as facades for child trafficking/sacrificing to fulfill elder god's will in order to obtain power.

The problem with virophage is the opposite of traditional antibiotics. You can only use it once because your own cells will destroy the virus and become effective at destroying more of the intruders. So if you took a treatment to cure your cold, you could never ever use that treatment again.

Why not both?

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I reckon virus' arrived on a meteor or some shit.

that's cause you're dumb as fuck

I never claimed to be smart mate.

What is this

Mechanical. Biological requires more hand-waving and usually relies on a hive-mind intelligence using telepathy which has no place in sci-fi.

Viruses are adapted to consume very specific life on Earth. If they came from somewhere else they would have no host and quickly die off.

They literally remain dormant until they enter a specific cell and if they encounter another cell membrane will do nothing.

we will have to use them eventually
the chingchongs are overusing the living fuck out of antibiotics
it's only a matter of time before some kind of resistent super-aids shows up in Guangzhou

Id make it ghosts.

Biological because they are creepier and less obvious visually, which ads to the horror aspect.
Plus mechanical assimilation doesn't make much sense anyways, outside of some grey goo scenario which is less assimilation and more "breaking you down to your base components and using them as raw material".

yes

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>less obvious visually
Flesh has more limitations than machine
>breaking you down to your base components and using them as raw material
Is still assimilation

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