>Two adults consent to sex

A penetrative sex act without consent is rape. If you only perform the sex act because you're being threatened to do so, that's rape. Telling someone to have sex with them or you'll pull strings and ruin their career is a threat, just as if you pulled a knife on them and told them they had to have sex with you.

I mean, it wasn't consensual. But it still wasn't rape.

This is essentially a quid pro quo situation where she is being forced by a 'superior' to perform sexual favors as a condition of her (continued) employment. He didn't literally force her down and sodomize her but it was still a textbook sexual harassment. And while in hindsight you could say she could have called his bluff since he's not nearly as important as he claimed, it would be pretty open and shut in court.

>women are better and stronger than men
>women have no agency and are always the victims
(((Feminism))) in a nutshell

That is rape dumbass

Rape by definition is sex that isn't consensual

It now also means consensual sex a woman regrets having for whatever reason she decides.

If I hold a gun to your mum's head and made her suck my dick that isn't rape because she didn't want to get shot? Go bugger yourself mate.

Yeah she consented to it but didn’t actually wanna do it. You really think she wanted to suck his dick?

This is how 90% of all sex starts. At least the first time you are with someone.

>there was no rape
Well there you go

Nice nothingburger

>Consent
I don't think you know what this means.

>if you sleep with me you get this movie role
>ok
Ok if you blow me you can stay on the team
>ok
Ok

Then there was no rape or sexual abuse, the girl is just dumb or regretful

All heterosexual intercourse is rape.

So basically by your reasoning (which is low iq shit) , you can put a gun to someones head and demand sex and if they say sex than its consensual. Lol wow you are retarded. I bet you voted for trump you fucking betq male,

I'm not aware of getting a role being a gun, or being on a team. You want perks, provide perks.

what is this?

which is the "problem" that "feminists" are abusing to fight white mans with atm.

Almost all. Chad gets non-rape sex all the time. That's the whole point, women only want chad sex. All else is thus deemed "rape".

>if you sleep with me you can live

Literally your whole argument fucking destroyed. GG kid

>blow me or I'll end your career
>""""""consent""""""

Why aren't we seeing more women raping men in movies and tv?

>Literally your whole argument fucking destroyed. GG kid

Your career is already ended in such a situation, there is merely a chance to save it.

If by "live" your retarded ass is counting "live with perks" then yes. If you want perks, then you gib perks. Whatever perks those are. Be they great service at a jerb, or some bjs to some producer or whatever it is. You gotta give to get.

It was sexual misconduct, the term is sexual misconduct you fucking autists. Which is illegal, like if you actual interacted with a woman enough to be in a relationship and say she had a decent job but came home one day unemployed and black balled because her boss told her he’d fire her if she refused to perform a sexual act. Your reaction would be?

No. You equated

If you x me than you can get x.

So

If you Sex me you can get to Live.

If women says yes here , by your logic than its consensual. So either you admit this is in-line with your world view (aka you are a pathetic troll or mentally ill rapist) OR you admit you are wrong and that Starlight was raped. Your move and again gg you lost kid,

>Which is illegal, like if you actual interacted with a woman enough to be in a relationship and say she had a decent job but came home one day unemployed and black balled because her boss told her he’d fire her if she refused to perform a sexual act. Your reaction would be?

That is black mail right there, report to the police.

Or, I should edit, maybe more appropriately termed "extortion" I'm using the terms the same, but if you want the proper legal term, should be "extortion".

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So, what women do to men on a daily basis? Got it.

And how exactly would you prove that? Is there documentation? Recordings? He can come up with a million reasons to fire her and claim she’s just seeking litigation as misguided payback.

>A penetrative sex act without consent is rape
Legally, penetrative sex is something inserted into a vag or an anus.
What he did was still illegal, but it wasn't legally "rape"

Quality bait thread, congrats. Here’s another (You). A bonus for your effectiveness.

A blowjob isn't "sex"

What is the difference if a dude points a gun to a girls head and ask her to blow him, and she doesn't he'll kill her?
Technically she'll choose to suck him off, but isn't that rape?

I didn't say that it would be easy. But first things first, gotta report it. The police's job is to investigate. If she mysteriously gets blackballed after getting fired after making the report then you have better grounds for wrongful termination suit etc down the line.

which show is this. That bitch is hot so now I want to watch it

Which is what most of the fags on Yea Forums side with when women come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct.

I think the difference is the gun example includes threats of physical harm. I think that's different from the extortion described above, but I'm definitely not a rape expert.

I remember The Deep saying he had to do something too when he joined
My guess? He was anally raped by Lamplighter

Deep should have done chores and run errands for Starlight if he wanted sex.

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I understand what you’re getting at but the world really isn’t that black and white, and wrongful termination is very difficult to prove without a smoking gun, also aside from the “extortion” is a civil offense and not the polices job to investigate. You’d have to get ($$$) a lawyer, provide any documentation you can to support you’re claim while short a source of income. Not to mention the defendant probably has a better lawyer anyway.

>consensual
Coercion is seen to be just as harsh as any physical force in the name of the law. Blackmail is coercion. That's why it's rape. It's actually pitiful that this even needs to be explained. Did you also not know that spitting is assault and jaywalking is punishable? Y'know, common sense shit?

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>Enticement with a job or position = death and violence
Yeah, and hes the one with a low IQ.

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What's Jaywalking?

Google it, retard.

He threatened to tarnish her reputation, schizo. It was not about getting the job when she gave in.

I didn't "equate" anything you child. You must be 18 to post here you know. And, again, if they say "yes", and esp if they mean it (if they don't actually mean it then the whole issue boils down to proving that they didn't mean it etc. which is why so many people "get off" rape charges regarding these things after it turns out the girl in fact said yes, but then later says she didn't mean it, but can't "prove" she didn't mean it after she's already admitted she literally said yes etc.), then it isn't rape, in any sense of the legal phrase. It can still be extortion/blackmail etc. It's only feminists that want to count this as "rape" that are making your retarded "arguments". I tire of them, they're not the way the legal system works in western countries, thus the charges of "sexism" in the law by feminists. I'm familiar with all this tomfoolery and doing things the feminist way is absolute africa-shit tier legal system proceedings.

>look after kids for a whole day
>(includes blowjob, feeding, doing nappies and putting to bed)

This is some fucked up shit right here.

amerifats cant cross the street without doing so in the proper street crossing zones

you know, he never consented verbally either.

I actually agree with you there on nearly everything, I never said the world, or the legal system, was fair to non-powerful people. However none of that changes what rape is or is not.

So, instead she tarnished her own self worth and reputation by blowing the guy? Great decision making skills. Still not rape I'm afraid, but keep conflating apples and oranges

Does make it a pretty fantastic scandal for in the show when you juxtapose it against the stuff the hide from the public like A-Train's run in with the girl. The Deep ends up one of the most sympathetic characters on the show even while demonized for acting like an ass the one time.

Sexual coercion is still rape.

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jesus christ you incels are dense.

To skinny
No thanks

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By legal definition it actually is not

t. Harvey Weinstein

Here is literally the term for it: Sextortion.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextortion

As Jeffrey Epstein's attorney I had proposed to make this argument but it's no longer news that I missed out on what would have been a massive payday.

Who is this sexually stimulating biological female?

Sex outside of marriage is a sin. They both should be shot for fornication.

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"Sexual coercion is against the law or violates school, rental, or workplace policies. Sexual coercion from someone at school, work, or a rental company or loan office is usually called sexual harassment. Consider talking to someone about getting help and reporting the person to the local authorities. You could talk to a counselor, the human resources department, or the local police".

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What does any of that have to do with it not legally being rape?

how do the christian officers deal with the sin of onanism, which Yea Forums types are committing in huge numbers at any given time?

It falls under rape/sexual harassment and even sexual violence in some cases. Don't know how you didn't know this.

>It falls under rape/sexual harassment
No, it doesn't. It is not legally rape.
It's illegal, but rape has a very specific legal definition.

why did the show set up The Deep as a rapist but then try and redeem him at the end?

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Why did translucent have a kid if they said on the show supes can't have kids?

No, rape has an FBI definition and a broad court definition. Sexual coercion holds up as rape in a court, dumb ass.

>what is adoption
>what is my wife's son

>>”OMG HE RAPED HER!!!!”
What he did is called sexual harassment you cunt.

>No, rape has an FBI definition and a broad court definition
That couldn't be further from the truth. Crimes have very specific definitions. There are a ton of different sex crimes.
>Sexual coercion holds up as rape in a court
I didn't say otherwise. But rape requires vaginal or anal penetration by an object

having your dick in her mouth is past harassment senpai

>rape requires vaginal or anal penetration by an object
That's the FBI definition numb skull. Welcome to not knowing shit about shit. Rape in a court is a broad term for any sexual act performed without consent, under threat or force. This means oral as well, y'know, because it's *oral sex* you mongoloid. In a court, "very specific definitions" is so horribly wrong it's actually hilarious to see you use those words. Anything can be argued in a court of law. What isn't argued, is that coercion (force) for sex is rape. Jesus Christ you're dense.

>two wrongs make a right

>That's the FBI definition
It's also the legal definition everywhere in the country
>Rape in a court is a broad term for any sexual act performed without consent
No, it isn't. That would be like them calling any homicide a murder. It carries a very specific legal meaning and is not a blanket term for all sex crimes.
>This means oral as well, y'know, because it's *oral sex* you mongoloid
That's forced oral copulation you dipshit. It's a specific crime. Just like there is a specific crime for fingering someone against their will.
>In a court, "very specific definitions" is so horribly wrong it's actually hilarious

>In a court, "very specific definitions" is so horribly wrong it's actually hilarious
I think you are legitimately retarded.
>Anything can be argued in a court of law
Not really
>What isn't argued, is that coercion (force) for sex is rape
Forced sex is rape. But sex is vaginal or anal penetration.

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>leaving out the best part

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so she traded a blowjob for a job consensually?

RAINN
"The crime of rape involves forcing another person to engage in sexual intercourse, anal sex, or other sexual activity involving even the slightest form of penetration, without that person’s consent or against the person’s will. In some states, this crime is referred to as sexual battery and the terms “rape” and “sexual battery” are used interchangeably."
>sexual battery (rape)
"Sexual battery means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose. Includes, but is not limited to, threats of future physical punishment, kidnapping, false imprisonment or forcible confinement, or extortion (force, threats, blackmail, bribery)."
Fuck you guys are retarded. Even the FBI recently changed it to oral.
"For its Uniform Crime Reports, the FBI defines rape as “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

>this argument is fuckin retarded.

Of course its rape.

....

so if the other person goes along...knowing if they dont harm can come to them mentally, physically, or financial (or all of the above) it's cool.

Fuck off

inb4 the same retard argues sexual battery isnt rape

California legal definition of rape can be found here
codes.findlaw.com/ca/penal-code/pen-sect-261.html
Oral, digital, or any other sex crime is not mentioned. Because it's a different penal code. Because it's a different crime.
Sexual battery isn't rape, that's like saying assault is the same thing as assault with a deadly weapon. They are two distinct crimes.
Rape has a specific definition. He committed a crime, just not rape.

It wasn't rape. It was sexual harassment.

>(2)Where it is accomplished against a person's will by means of force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful bodily injury on the person or another.
>(b)As used in this section, “duress” means a direct or implied threat of force, violence, danger, or retribution sufficient to coerce a reasonable person of ordinary susceptibilities to perform an act which otherwise would not have been performed, or acquiesce in an act to which one otherwise would not have submitted. The total circumstances, including the age of the victim, and his or her relationship to the defendant, are factors to consider in appraising the existence of duress.
That page says nothing about oral, anal or vaginal penetration at all. You wanna know why? Because it's very easy to call oral rape in a court of law in California. Under California law:
"Oral Copulation: Section 288a
(a) Oral copulation is the act of copulating the mouth of one person with the sexual organ or anus of
another person.
(b) . . . . (2)(A) Any person who commits an act of oral copulation when the act is accomplished against
the victim's will by means of force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful bodily
injury on the victim or another person shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three,
six, or eight years."

You not only proved yourself wrong on that specific state, but also
>Sexual battery isn't rape
You proved how fucking ignorant you are of law entirely. RAINN gets dudes on sexual battery (rape) every day and uses their lawyers to punish these criminals to the fullest extent of the law in their state. Don't know who RAINN is? Of course you don't, because you didn't even know that sexual battery and rape are interchangeable.

I watched the first two episodes of this show cause I thought it would just be a fun revenge story but the whole thing so far is just "WOW LE RAPE" which I don't mind but the fact that they think they're being so subtle when it's just blatant checking off every single "rape" cliches
>dude uses position of power to force a girl to have sex, not just physical rape
>acting like it's no big deal
>claiming that the fact that the girl likes him is an excuse to rape her
etc.

does this shit get any better

>I don't know what coercion is
>I couldn't identify affirmative consent if it bit me on the dick
Enjoy getting metoo'd.

You need a gun to keep her from sucking dick, user

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No it's not. She did it willingly for fame and fortune. Feeling bad about it afterwards does not make it rape, it makes her an unprofessional whore

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261PC is rape. 288A is Oral Copulation.
Like I said. Different crimes.
I don't understand how you think this proves me wrong. It's what I have been saying this entire time.

I would feel proud of my wife for not whoring herself out unlike the whore on the show

Oral copulation falls under rape. Holy shit how fucking thick can one person be? You know what? Go do it right now and let her report it to the police, then write me from prison after reading your court documents where "rape" will be written several times and then come back in eight years and tell me how your ignorant non-argument went.

>Oral copulation falls under rape
No, it doesn't. The crime is oral copulation.
It's an entirely separate penal code from rape.
>Holy shit how fucking thick can one person be?
I keep asking myself but you just keep going
>Go do it right now and let her report it to the police, then write me from prison after reading your court documents where "rape" will be written several times
No, it would say 288A and Oral Copulation several times. Rape is a different crime. That would be like throwing around the word murder when someone is being charged with manslaughter.

You keep putting 288A and 261PC like they're entirely separate, which by the way, you're arguing one specific state. Guess what happens in this state fuckwad? 288A and 261PC are slapped on the same case every time. You can call it California Dictionary Specific all you want, but every time they're going on the same exact report for the dude in jail.

>You keep putting 288A and 261PC like they're entirely separate
They are
>which by the way, you're arguing one specific state
The most populous one. Can you name one state where the same doesn't apply?
>Guess what happens in this state fuckwad? 288A and 261PC are slapped on the same case every time
No, they aren't. They are DIFFERENT CRIMES. I think you might be mentally retarded.
>but every time they're going on the same exact report for the dude in jail
Not unless the suspect committed both crimes, no.

>No, they aren't. They are DIFFERENT CRIMES. I think you might be mentally retarded.
Yes, they absolutely are. You can feel free to look up every case individually if you'd like. It isn't hard to find, you have the power of the internet at your disposal. You don't seem to use it.
>the most populous state is California
Wow, sick! Except this show takes place in New York and was filmed in Toronto.
"For a definition of New York State law, please see NYS penal law article 130. In general, rape is actual or attempted penetration accomplished by threats, coercion, or physical force. It includes nonconsensual vaginal, anal, or oral penetration by penis, finger, or any object."
Who the fuck cares about Commiefuckingfornia you idiot?

>Yes, they absolutely are
No, they aren't.
>You can feel free to look up every case individually if you'd like
I've written them you retard. They are two different crimes. You don't write about a crime that a suspect didn't commit.
>Who the fuck cares about Commiefuckingfornia you idiot?
I could say the same about jew york. But to humor you, here is the NY equivalent of "rape"
S 130.70 Aggravated sexual abuse in the first degree.
1. A person is guilty of aggravated sexual abuse in the first degree
when he or she inserts a foreign object in the vagina, urethra, penis,
rectum or anus of another person causing physical injury to such person:
(a) By forcible compulsion; or
(b) When the other person is incapable of consent by reason of being
physically helpless; or
(c) When the other person is less than eleven years old.
2. Conduct performed for a valid medical purpose does not violate the
provisions of this section.
Notice how there is no oral? Though they use more technical definitions than "rape"

How Does New York Define Sexual Battery? Sexual battery is a broad term that essentially refers to sexual intercourse that is forced on another person without their consent and is against their will. It can also be referred to as rape, sexual assault, or criminal penetration. New York rape charges generally fall into three categories:
>Rape in the First-Degree: According to New York Penal Law § 130.35, this class B felony – which can result in up to a 25-year prison sentence.
>Rape in the Second-Degree: According to New York Penal Law § 130.30, this class D felony – which can result in up to a seven-year prison sentence.
>Rape in the Third-Degree: According to New York Penal Law § 130.25, this class E felony – which can result in up to a four-year prison sentence.
Along with significant prison sentences, New York felony offenses can also result in fines, probation, and registering as a sex offender. A New York sexual battery lawyer can attempt to mitigate the severity of those penalties. In addition to rape, there are several other sex offenses for which someone can be charged under New York law including sexual misconduct, sexual assault, and forcible touching.
>duh I can't do a simple search on state laws

I skimmed it any all the rape ones looked like they were actually stat rape. I see now 130.35. is the right one. It still refers to sexual intercourse, which legally generally doesn't refer to oral sex.
I feel like you're going through a lot of effort just to keep returning to the fact that I'm correct and legally rape requires penetration.
S 130.35 Rape in the first degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the first degree when he or she engages
in sexual intercourse with another person:
1. By forcible compulsion; or
2. Who is incapable of consent by reason of being physically helpless;
or
3. Who is less than eleven years old; or
4. Who is less than thirteen years old and the actor is eighteen years
old or more.

S 130.00 Sex offenses; definitions of terms.
The following definitions are applicable to this article:
1. "Sexual intercourse" has its ordinary meaning and occurs upon any
penetration, however slight.
2. (a) "Oral sexual conduct" means conduct between persons consisting
of contact between the mouth and the penis, the mouth and the anus, or
the mouth and the vulva or vagina.
It goes further on to anal, contact, terms on mental disability, etc. You're skimming far too much. He raped her in New York.

Does 130.35 say "Oral sexual conduct" or "Sexual intercourse"?
You keep bending over backwards to prove me correct. Rape requires penetration in NY as well as CA

You're looking at the wrong one.

S 130.25 Rape in the third degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is
incapable of consent by reason of some factor other than being less than
seventeen years old;
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in sexual
intercourse with another person less than seventeen years old; or
***3. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without
such person`s consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some
factor other than incapacity to consent.
“Lack of consent” results from, among other things:
-forcible compulsion;
-incapacity to consent;
where the offense charged is sexual abuse or forcible touching, any circumstances, in addition to
forcible compulsion or incapacity to consent, in which the victim does not expressly or impliedly
acquiesce in the actor's conduct; or
when the offense charged is rape in the third degree, or criminal sexual act in the third degree, in
addition to forcible compulsion, circumstances under which, at the time of the act of intercourse,
oral sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct, the victim clearly expressed that he or she did not
consent to engage in such act, and a reasonable person in the actor's situation would have
understood such person's words and acts as an expression of lack of consent to such act under all the circumstances.
Rape in the Third Degree is a class E felony.

Does it say "sexual intercourse" or "oral sexual conduct"?

Yes. You didn't even bother reading. Holy fuck. I'm just a normal fucking nobody on the internet and you claim to be in law. I'd hate to have you on my side when you can't even read.

S 130.25 Rape in the third degree.
A person is guilty of rape in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person who is
incapable of consent by reason of some factor other than being less than
seventeen years old;
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in sexual
intercourse with another person less than seventeen years old; or
3. He or she engages in sexual intercourse with another person without
such person`s consent where such lack of consent is by reason of some
factor other than incapacity to consent.

I don't see anything there about anything other than sexual intercourse.

That's because you're not looking at the expansive requisites that go into it, as already posted. Give me your place of work right now so I can inform them they have an illiterate on their hands.

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buddy...

That part is referring to
S 130.40 Criminal sexual act in the third degree.
A person is guilty of criminal sexual act in the third degree when:
1. He or she engages in oral sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct
with a person who is incapable of consent by reason of some factor other
than being less than seventeen years old;
2. Being twenty-one years old or more, he or she engages in oral
sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct with a person less than seventeen
years old; or
3. He or she engages in oral sexual conduct or anal sexual conduct
with another person without such person's consent where such lack of
consent is by reason of some factor other than incapacity to consent.
It says it right there. The oral part is for criminal sexual act and if it's intercourse then it's Rape in the third degree 130.25
Why are you so obsessed with this? Can you just accept that the term "rape" has a very specific legal definition that involves penetration/"sex"?

She didnt try to resist or leave the room. She could have used her powers but she was like "alright I'll slurp this dude real quick"

You know what? You're right, they're calling oral and anal a "criminal sexual act" instead of rape. New York is one of only 25 states to have the word “rape” in their penal codes. The other 25 have purged it, opting instead for terms like “sexual assault” or “criminal sex act,” but New York still keeps this term around despite protests. For years people have been attempting to have New York remove this outdated term under a "rape is rape" law, forcing lawyers to try rape under an expanded DOJ definition: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim," to include "oral penetration" as well. This is currently being strengthened by the Violence Against Women’s Act (VAWA).

So you're right, right now it would be placed under the archaic term "criminal sexual act" which is still a class E felony and the only difference is it being "oral/anal". That's the only difference in New York between rape and a CSA, but not for long.

>So you're right
told you
>archaic term
roastie
>but not for long.
Keep telling yourself that.
Nothing is worse than people trying to change the definition of words or history. Kill yourself.

>Keep telling yourself that.
Literally any day now. "Manspreading" is already being moderated and an expanse of genders are recognized by the state. Rape is Rape will go through so easily. Also, you're still wrong about "sexual battery." It's interchangeable in New York with rape, just not the redneck state of California.

>Literally any day now
Nope. Not that I would recognize a made up definition even if they did
>"Manspreading" is already being moderated
Hard to moderate something that doesn't exist
>an expanse of genders are recognized by the state
No they aren't
>Rape is Rape will go through so easily
No it won't
>Also, you're still wrong about "sexual battery."
No I wasn't
>It's interchangeable in New York with rape
No, it isn't. They were two different code sections. We just went over this
>just not the redneck state of California
I thought it was commiefornia

You're a fucking dumbass. Both situations are completely different. He wasn't going to kill her if she didn't blow him, idiot.

post screenshot when that is said

Fish dude basically does get raped by that bitch who fingered his gills

>made up definition
>manspreading doesn't exist
>Rape is Rape won't go through
Okay boomer. It will though.
>I wasn't wrong about sexual battery
From the state itself: "New York law defines rape (also sometimes referred to as sexual battery or criminal penetration) by degrees.
>they're two different code sections
You're thinking about CSA vs rape, not sexual battery.

What a redneck.

>Okay boomer. It will though.
Nice non-attempt at refuting anything
>From the state itself: "New York law defines rape (also sometimes referred to as sexual battery or criminal penetration) by degrees.
I never said that terms used interchangeably with rape didn't exist
>What a redneck
Never forget you dragged this on for several hours just to end up being proven wrong. Go back to your discord, tranny

>I'm definitely not a rape expert
Practice makes perfect, user

>drug up a girl
>"well she's not sayin' no"
imagine being an incel

HE
LITERALLY
PULLED
A
BIG
HARV

you all please member that as you debate this shit. also, fuck Yea Forumsfags!

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>Never forget you dragged this on for several hours just to end up being proven wrong
Listen inbred, here's the thing, the terms being used interchangeably with the fact that "sexual battery" expands to oral and anal under a broader definition in all states, coupled with the Violence Against Women’s Act, in tandem with pressure on the DOJ and New York state officials to recognize "Rape is Rape", the fact of the matter is that it's not a NY Dictionary rape >yet< but is recognized by anyone socially. And that's all it takes, hard social pressure. New York isn't Crapifornia, the people there are very politically charged and very angry. The Deep's time is ticking.

>worthy of the punishment he gets.
BUT IT WASN'T ON PORPOISE

>but is recognized by anyone socially.
It isn't, nor is that what was being argued
>it's not a NY Dictionary rape >yetthe terms being used interchangeably with the fact that "sexual battery" expands to oral and anal under a broader definition in all states
Not all people with mustaches are pedophiles, but all pedophiles have mustaches
>And that's all it takes, hard social pressure
It will always be revisionism. People can cry about changing it, they can even succeed. But rape will always truly mean penetration.
>New York isn't Crapifornia
Imagine shifting all your beliefs because a state uses a definition that you don't like
>the people there are very politically charged and very angry
Hopefully they start some shit soon so we can cut them off and re-create Escape from New York

did mallory know that becca cucked butcher but manipulated him into being part of the boys?

you got absolutely raped in the argument and don't know the definition of what just happened to you LMAO
fuck off retard cuck

Hey, just because you seem to have lost track of this in the course of being thoroughly btfo, but the deep is a fictional character. He's not getting arrested just because you lost an argument online in a spectacular fashion.

>It will always be revisionism
Laws have changed a lot over the years for the better of the people. Who cares if some Bobby Hill Boy calls it "revisionism"?
>typical redneck New York hate from a guy that works in an even worse state that the rest of the US wants gone
>but is recognized by anyone socially.
>"It isn't, nor is that what was being argued"
It's socially recognized. Hardcore socially recognized in New York. You've been under the strict definitions of your backwoods pedophile state for too long, the people consider forced oral rape and are outraged when they find out it isn't under state law. New York is the most charged of every state about this particular issue. Tick tock, Cletus. Tick tock.

Leftypol invasion still going on I see.

I'd rather /leftypol/ came here rather than 420chan. They've got enough dumb commies typing stupid shit in my chill threads. Also, 8ch has a darkweb host, so if anything the more extreme shitters from /pol/ and /lefty/ will reside there. I still miss /film/ and /jewess/ though.

>Laws have changed a lot over the years for the better of the people
Yeah, but not changing any laws and moving around definitions is new
>Who cares if some Bobby Hill Boy calls it "revisionism"
Who cares if some liberal kike faggot makes up a new definition for something that already exists?
>It's socially recognized
No it isn't
>Hardcore socially recognized in New York
So recognized that I had never heard of the issue before
>You've been under the strict definitions of your backwoods pedophile state for too long
The age of consent here is 18, unfortunately
>the people consider forced oral rape
The people are stupid. You can't blanket 30 different crimes under "rape"
>New York is the most charged of every state about this particular issue
Never heard of the issue before
>Tick tock, Cletus. Tick tock
Didn't know the kikes in jew york thought commiefornia was backwoods

forgot to close the thread
not reading your post lmao

last post is mine ;)

She CHOSE to suck dick for the job but this kind of thing IRL should be/is? illegal

She was at worst sexually assaulted and at best pressured into sex under a false pretense. She was in no way raped, though.

What happened to the Deep, though, has a stronger basis for being classified as 'rape' as the woman used physical force to have sex with him.

Rape requires vaginal or anal penetration

So, if a thieves hold you at gunpoint and you give him money, it's not theft because you give him money? Blackmailing for consent is rape

Rape requires vaginal or anal penetration

Stop watching hentai

Start reading legal definitions

so u
fukin NERDS
had an entire thread arguin state law
n the only difrence is 1 is genital sex n the other is mouth n butt stuff
n its just a difrent term 4 it
seems dishonest
its rape with a difrent name geniuses

the deep could have ripped her head off. he just liked it tho

hurr durr
>Rape in the United States is defined by the Department of Justice as "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

That's the nu definition. All states have them broken into separate crimes, with rape being vaginal or anal penetration

So close and yet so far. The situation was
>if you don't suck my dick I'll accuse you of going psycho, attacking me while unprovoked and destroy your reputation and your chances of ever making it big

They only specifically said that Homelander can't.

cringe and bluepilled

It's pretty dumb to be honest.

She started it by openly flirting with him. It's handled poorly. In the comic it was better. She was surrounded by several powerful heroes and isolated so you would symphatize with her a bit (she was still basically a whore)

Coercion and rape are two different things.

A rape is literally non-consensual sex.

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>the comic
Way better in the comic.

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Coercion is just blackmail which is force and part of what constitutes rape. It wasn't rape because it was a blowjob.

No dude, coercion isn't rape.

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>hold a woman at gunpoint
>"have sex or die"
>she chooses sex
>"SEE GUYS SHE CONSENTED SO IT'S NOT RAPE"

See my above post. Threat of injury is rape. Playing mind games isn't. Which by the way, isn't to say it's not a fucking scummy thing to do, but you can't just change the definition of rape because some fat chick with blue hair says so.

More like
>offer a girl to blow you in order to continue with your job
>she can easily refuse no, there's no threats of violence on his part (actually, there are on her side)
>she proceeds to suck him off because her job is more important than her dignity, apparently
>regret it later after you've benefited and go full #metoo

This is a good example, actually. It's not rape, but it is some kind of quid pro quo sexual harassment.

>Sexual coercion is the act of using pressure, alcohol or drugs, or force to have sexual contact with someone against his or her will.
>Rape is a type of sexual coercion, but not all sexual coercion is rape.
It wasn't rape because it was a bj dude.

Was this based off of an established comic?
I saw amazon had this renewed for a second season, and I really have no clue how they could make another one.

The comic makes it clear that they have no plans to physically hurt her, but that, if she refuses, she'll have to go back to the minor leagues and her no-name team in the midwest. When she hears that, her demeanor immediately changes, and she agrees to do what they want because she doesn't want to go back. She's also not on the team based on merit (her powers are total shit) but for PR.
Honestly, it makes her somewhat unsympathetic to me because she's basically just showing she's willing to use sex to get what she wants. If she had any kind of morals, or really didn't want to suck dick, she could have just said no and kept walking.

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Bottom line is this scenario is simply not rape, even if it was penis in vajayjay

T.lawyer fag

Chace Crawford is relentlessly handsome. I want to kiss him relentlessly.

More like:
>drop pants in a workplace
>threaten career
>threaten character assassination
>threaten public persona of state of mental health
>have it caught on camera

>murder
>rape

meh

>says "nigger" and is white

FUCKING HITLER!

The Boys get jacked on Compound V and fight supers

I've never seen a definition of rape that says violence or the threat of violence is required. See >threat of injury
"Injury" would include "injury to one's career."

That sounds retarded, but I believe it. I think I'll just pretend this was a one season show.

>lawyerfag
Not a good one.
"Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability or is below the legal age of consent."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape

this is how consent looks op

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>drop pants in a workplace
Only he and her were there. It was as much of a workplace as home is in that scenario. He could have dropped his pants in a hotel, the location doesn't really matter.
>threaten career
He threatened her job in the Seven, not her career. There was nothing stopping her from going to the B team or working alone as a superhero.
>threaten character assassination
Nope. Actually, he didn't threaten with that. He just told the truth about her going psycho on him. She did destroy thousands of dollars of equipment.
>threaten public persona of state of mental health
When did he do that?
>have it caught on camera
Don't see how this matters. I'm also pretty sure she destroyed the cameras.

>"injury to one's career."
That's the first time I'm hearing this. Injury usually implies bodily harm.

Yes, it is.
Blackmailing someone to have sex with you is rape. It doesn't matter what happened to her because she did it.

>the location doesn't really matter
based retard
>she could have joined the b team
based retard
>he told the truth about her going psycho
based retard
>when did he question her mental health
read public persona based retard
>i'm pretty sure she destroyed the cameras
her threats to the boss lady worked because of the existence of evidence

>b-b-b-b-based r-r-r-r-retard
Do you have autism or something?

Not true, try again

wtf is this cuckd feminist bullshit?

>Girl trades sex for job, regrets it and falsely calls it rape
>Biggest chad is in love for a woman twice his age and the show even tries to make her look sexy, a sexy grandma
>Black chad is a little pussy for his bitch, blowing smooches and bending over backwards for her
>French guy's gf grabs him by the balls and holds onto him while he makes an 'Owie-zowie' face
>All the bosses are "successful women" when we all know in reality female bosses are useless shitheads that are not only cunts but loose companys revenue (Ex KK - SW)
>Only other hot female character is a dyke
>Guy who traded job for sex, gets "raped" later by a random chick (he's a fucking superhero ffs you know with super-human abilities) and his life gets completely destroyed irrelevant to the plot.
>Protag is a literal soiboy who likes stronk women

Anyone who watches this and thinks it's not abnormal is an absolute faggot-cuck

do you have a response based retard or are you just gonna keep being a based retard?

Injury has a ton of definitions, many of which would be non-physical. And you're trying to tell me you've never heard of someone's career being injured or hurt or killed? Please. You're grasping at straws at this point.

What netflix show is this?

Nope. The situation between Deep and Starlight is pretty much like Harvey Weinstein and his broads. They want work, they can fuck him. If they don't, they don't fuck him. There's nothing from the Deep that implies rape. If she had even an ounce of dignity she would have refused and went on with her life. There was nothing stopping her from doing that.

>not true because i say
>literal definitions you can wiki are wrong

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Reading all the responses in this thread, I wouldn't call it rape. Just like Weinstein, it's maybe shitty, but it's not rape.

It already diverged from the comic where Homelander did rape Butcher's wife.
The baby ripped its way out of her and was flying and shooting lasers in their bedroom, and I think Butcher killed it

>Harvey Weinstein
>In October 2017, The New York Times and The New Yorker reported that dozens of women accused American film producer Harvey Weinstein, formerly of Miramax Films and The Weinstein Company (TWC), of rape, sexual assault and sexual abuse over a period of at least thirty years. Over eighty women in the film industry have since accused Weinstein of such acts. Weinstein denied "any non-consensual sex." Shortly after, he was dismissed from TWC, expelled from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences and other professional associations, and retired from public view.
user, coercion and authoritative abuse are stipulations for rape. What kind of dumb example were you going for here?

in current year if you use your irresistable attractiveness to fuck a girl you are a rapist. I mean how is she able to make a choice in those circumstances?

because sex is power + privlege or someshit idfk post more webms so i can fap asshole

First, Weinstein was a political hit. Second, I urge you to stop relying on wikipedia links written by some intern. Third, he isn't found guilty of anything yet.
>user, coercion and authoritative abuse are stipulations for rape.
They are not. Let's get to the bottom of this, shall we? You're quite obviously a dumb roastie that has done this in the past, is ashamed and wants to make herself feel better. Or you plan to do it in the future. Just admit it.

In simplest terms, to end this discussion, rape is an act of forced sex against another person who is unwilling or hasn't given consent. Your argument completely falls apart because SHE HAS given her consent. She freely sucked his dick. No force, no unwillingness. He asked her and she obliged. It's that simple.

Then look up the definition, injury means harm, and harm isn't always physical. Webster definition 2 is "hurt, damage, or loss sustained" You threaten someone with loss of career unless they have sex with you, that's rape.

>just like Weinstein
>he wasn't found guilty of anything
>On May 25, 2018, Weinstein was charged by New York prosecutors with "rape, criminal sex act, sex abuse and sexual misconduct for incidents involving two separate women." After surrendering to police, he appeared in court before Judge Kevin McGrath. If convicted on the most serious charges, Weinstein could face between five to twenty-five years in prison. Weinstein was released same day on a $1 million bail. He agreed to surrender his passport and wear an ankle monitor confining him to Connecticut and New York. His lawyer Benjamin Brafman said Weinstein intends to plead not guilty.
>In July 2018, Weinstein was indicted on an additional charge of "predatory sexual assault" against a woman he allegedly forced into oral sex in 2006. The charge has a maximum sentence of life in prison. On October 11, 2018 a judge dismissed one of the sex assault charges. The trial date was set to September 9, 2019.

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Women have to expand the definition of rape to give them more social and political power

This thread is shit

wtf, he actually got off? That's hilarious.

No, they're doing more and more trials this year even, and "Operation Kaguyak" is very much alive. Weinstein is the worst example anyone could've ever used.

>he allegedly forced into oral sex in 2006.
what do you mean "forced"? Like stick his dick in her mouth without consent or what?

Let's do this in a simpler way because you're obviously too stupid to understand. If your boss asks you to suck his dick for a promotion or to keep your job, no threats of violence or whatever, would you do it? I would not. Answer me this so we can just end the discussion.

I think you're talking to more than you are to me I don't think offering women jobs in exchange for sex clarifies as rape. It's shitty sexual harassment, but nowhere near rape.

>If your boss asks you to suck his dick for a promotion or to keep your job, no threats of violence or whatever, would you do it?
I'd report them. How is this not the obvious answer? Sexual harrassment cases can go far even if it only ruins their image.
>you're obviously too stupid
Please, you got a new asshole torn for using your dumb fucking Weinstein example (without me posting the mountains of other legal responses) and just said an intern wrote it and not to trust wiki because anonymous retard nobody on the internet said so. Okay bud. Sure thing.

>I'd report them
You didn't really answer the question. Would you or wouldn't you suck his dick for a job/promotion?

Fuck me, adult virgins discussing consent. I think I've seen it all.

>i can't read between the lines
based retard
To spell it out for your kindergarten ass, no. You bet like fuck I'd turn my camera on ASAP in my pocket though.

>he doesn't know the joys of irrumatio

>To spell it out for your kindergarten ass, no.
Then it wouldn't really be a rape, would it? In a rape scenario, you wouldn't have much of a choice. Nobody is going to ask you for your opinion.

>no tits
>no ass
>terrible voice
dropped.

It wasn't a promotion, there were many threatening stipulations at play.
>then it wouldn't be rape
Thanks for providing me with a different scenario so we know what workplace sexual harrassment is.

>Thanks for providing me with a different scenario
It's the same scenario. I don't know if you're playing dumb or you are indeed that dumb.
>what workplace sexual harrassment is.
Oh, now we've changed our tune and it's merely sexual harrassment and not rape? You're way out of your mental capacity here, sweetie.

>it's the same scenario
>my simplified example that takes none of the threats or acts into account, just a simple "duh your boss ask you to suck a dick yes or no?" is the same thing
>it's the same as career suicide, public assassination, possible physical assassination because let's be real about how The Seven handle situations, exposure in the workplace that has already occurred as soon as she turned around, authoritative abuse ("I'm number 2 around here"), and threats about her psyche
okay based retard

Fucking lol, this amount of delusional headcanon. Let's be bluntly honest here, roastie, you WANT this to be rape so that you do not have to feel the shame of admitting to yourself that you're nothing more than a delusional slut who would suck the cum out of a stranger's dick, if it will be of any benefit to her.

>not giving your kids blowie jowies

bad parent detected, I always worked hard to save up my GBP for that one

You can't refute a thing. What's your K/D in court, bitch boy? It's low, I don't even need a real answer, it's definitely low. If I were dealing with a real lawyer right now I'd have had my ass handed to me on all counts with your first response through a complete breakdown of the scenario that occurred and not a terrible comparison you had to (speaking of) headcanon yourself.

If I put a gun to your head and tell you I'll pull the trigger unless you suck my dick, is the dicksucking that follows consensual?

This show is fun to watch because you can see them check all those target demo boxes and holy shit, they checked off a lot of boxes.

/thread

it wasn't on porpoise

If he's threatening them with physical harm, then yeah, that's a different story.
If it's threatening by being fired or something, it's still not rape.

>it wasn't on porpoise
This is literally the only acceptable response.
>"Your honor, this man committed third-degree criminal sexual assault."
>"Your honor, if I may defend myself, it wasn't on porpoise. uwu"
ez defence.

was it death by rape?

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No, but it was self-harm and authorities should have stopped it. The guards were conveniently off duty.

Wait? Was that the scene where she gave a blowjob?

>I'm gonna fuck you now, if you scream I'll kill you
>wtf, how can anyone agree to those terms, she's just a whore
This is the same argument.
Are you retarded?

Yes

Good thread lads glad we could discuss this conundrum of a legal situation.

This is the worst analogy, but I'm sure you can explain when and where he said she would be killed if she didn't suck his dick. She would only be denied a job. It shows women are fucking whores that are WILLING to suck a dick in exchange for a better/good job.

At no point was it made impossible for her to back out and keep her integrity, but no, she wanted the job, so she sucked a dick like the whore she is.

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The Fellas

I understand your point, but lets be honest if anyone here got a new and better job and then the milf boss demands you eat her pussy or you're fired, most would do it

Maybe they should be forced to marry instead

He has such a derpy face but i'd still let him rail me in my boipussy

>denies
>is killed for threatening one of The Seven
heheh just don't suck it dude you can back down heheh

who in the show said she was raped? all she said was that he shoved his dick in her face what a fucking shit thread

the amount of people ITT who dont get this is staggering
guess thats all that can be expected of capeshitters though

Wait, so in the comic she had to suck on all of their dicks? Even translucent's invisible dick? Did she also munch on maeve's clam?

Homeland, A-Train and Black Noir.

I think just being in character as Homelander has that effect on him. His regular self could cream my boipussy anytime though.

Under current law coercion is classified as rape. Your personal definition of force doesn't matter. it's objectively rape.

That is rape though. He didn't use physical force but he removed her ability to reasonably object.

Translucent isnt a part of the 7 in the comics

Just gonna play the devil's advocate here. In the gun situation, in order for the default outcome to be "you're gonna die", that means you have to accept responsibility for the intent to murder if not the rape. With the job scenario, we have somebody in a situation of their own making where the consequence is fair, being offered a way out of that consequence. So both are using sex to get out of a situation, but only one of them was forced into that situation in the first place.

>(he drops pants)
>(starts jacking off)
>(she turns around in shock)
>"what? i mean you said you had a crush on me. i figured that, you know..."
>(she gasps)
>"whoa whoa whoa whoa - hey, look, you're gorgeous. i'm not talkin' about sex. just a little bit of pole smoking. whoa whoa whoa whoa, hey wait wait wait - it's just a question of how bad you wanna be in the seven."
>she stops walking away in disgust, turning back to look at him like the retarded manipulator he is
>she exclaims "excuse me?" while flashing her powers to intimidate him
>"whoa. whoa whoa whoa hey hey hey... hey-ey-ey (laughing, intimidated)... take it easy. ho- slow down we're just, we're just talking. (he's walking toward her) now look i know that you're powerful, i get it. your powers are no joke. thing is, i AM number two around here, so if i say so, y'know, you'd be outta here. (looks at her with malice) especially since you attacked me."
>(she looks puzzled) "i what?"
>yeah, look. (thumbs to the broken televisions on the wall) i mean iowa's sweetheart, the defender of des moines, just went psycho on the deep. (sighs in a dramatic fashion to show her how hard he's willing to play this off) i mean that... that could put you outta the business. yeah. i mean, home to mommy, tail tucked between your legs. just think of all those kids, i mean the kids... those kids that look up to you. they'd just be shattered. i mean that, that's not what you really want, right?"
>(she tries to stand her ground)
>"or we come together as a team, (up in her face now) you and me, we just roll with the punches for like, three minutes, maybe. it's not a big deal. and then you know what happens? all your dreams come true."
>(her face begins to shatter to a painful burst of tears - cuts to fallon)
>(butcher scene - back to her puking up cum in the bathroom with tears and messed up makeup, maeve tells her not to let them see her like that and calls translucent a pervert)
>(translucent appears fully naked, unapologetic)

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sensible answer, never thought i'd see it on this board

Pretty cool how you the word "rape" means literally nothing now thanks to the me2 shit. Rape used to be a bad thing but now it's more of a moral gray area. Good job feminists.

what flick is this from

what I dont understand is this:
if homegirl is so powerful, what the fuck does she care? she could kill anyone that comes after her and she could fuck all those supergays up. Probably not kill blondie but the rest perhaps.
also most girls are happy with trading sex for favours and most jews have a fetish for exploiting girls for sex, so this scene is 100% kosher.

the lads

Homelander, Noir, Maeve, and A-Train could all fuck her up, and at the time she didn't know who could or who couldn't

T O U C H F A N N Y

Was the gillfucking technically rape? He didn't consent but he didn't stop her either

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t. incel who's entire psyche revolves around the effects of being on the bottom of power dynamics pretending they don't matter

>>”OMG HE RAPED HER!!!!”
Who are you quoting?

>However none of that changes what rape is or is not.
It's a moot point since this is essentially a strawman by OP. It's amazing how this board hates slimy jew producers one second but then jumps to their defense the next because "fuck women."

It was blackmail, maybe even coercion. It's not really rape, but it is some form of sexual assault/harassment. Please try using your brain bro these threads make you look like a retard

If I had to make a tier personally:
Cats > Jews > Mosquitos > Fleas > redditors > Spics >>>>>>>>> Niggers > being stabbed > Twitter posters > being tortured slowly > Neogaf posters > Resetera posters > Women > men that are 5'11" >>>>>>>>> buring in hell for eternity > trannies

>jew producers
who? rogen? I d't think anyones defending him or even mentioned him. wtf are you babbling about?

It was an obvious reference to MeToo. This is exactly the kind of shit people here were saying about Harvey.

no said anything about harvey

False equivalence fallacy.

>You have to have sex to know how to differentiate between consensual and non-consensual sex

These posts getting all these (you)s proves Yea Forums is a low IQ board.

That scene was absolutely fucking disgusting

looks like a diaper

If you're sorry ass ever gets a girlfriend, I'm sure you'd love it if she got a situation where her boss said "blow me or you're fired". Totally the woman fault always am I right?

>openly flirting with him

I cringe at your level of social reading if this is what you got from the scene.

>bro that chick looked at me, she totally wants my cock...hehe slut

Clearly you are fucking retarded. Use/threat of force=rape.
"Suck my dick or I will lie and have you fired or put in prison"= rape.
"Blow me and I'll give you a raise" not rape.
If you don't know the difference keep your sub par genes the fuck out of the pool

>force someone to have sex
>if she doesn't complain it's consent

t. rapist

Not if you're attractive, user

There's no argument here.

is it *rape?* probably not. sexual assault, blackmail, scummy incel behavior? yes.

Because women don't have agency.

>complain sex wasnt good
>its a rape

Nah she held no agency over him and it wasn't exploitative, he liked it

Neither of those are rape onions fag

Wish I got raped like the deep got fish fingered by the dominatrix gods that was hot