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>Voyager is good because it's like TOS
okay but what are some of Voyager's defining characteristics independent of echoing other series?

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>Voyager is good because it had a female captain
That's nothing new. Shelby was going to become first officer when Picard was a Borg and it triggered Riker because it made him realize he doesn't do anything. Trek has some of the strongest female characters ever written, however that does not inherently mean it is a good series.

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>Voyager is good because posters I don't like hate it the plot holes and glaring logical errors
This is a stupid post.

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>Voyager is good because it is technically proficient
I appreciate the thought you put into your reply but I'm still not sold on it being enjoyable as a series unless you've watched everything else and you can't not watch Voyager. TOS has that wild frontier feeling where we're exploring the unknown. TNG asks us why we explore, what are we looking for? DS9 looks inward and considers the exploration of love and friendship as valid as conquering the stars and perhaps in some ways the inner journey is the most important trek we go on. What does Voyager ask of its viewers?

>What does Voyager ask of its viewers?
To accept that it's not the destination, it's the journey

tl;dr?

Fuck off, either bf or vf

>What does Voyager ask of its viewers?
I guess the problem is VOY doesn't ask anything the other series didn't already explore. Its greatest strengths (The Doc and Seven) were examples of learning about humanity and what it means to be alive/human, but we already had it in different ways with Spock, Data and (until they gave up on it for MUH KIRA) Odo.
Other options are the recilience in the face of adveristy and strange new worlds. VOY didn't really have Starfleet helping them out when things got tough and the show tried to show how you need to adapt to survive. So, asking the viewers how you can survive in hostile settings and still come out with some morals intact.

btw I'm not a big fan of VOY, but it's still nice to discuss it.

Why are you replying to yourself

Is he right /StaTre/ ?

He's replying to the relevant post, it's ok to do that as long as you're not intentionally trying to look like someone else

why are you talking to yourself?

Science?

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I quite like that.

Based brainlet.

*yawn*

That sounds pretty interesting. Do you have any episodes you'd recommend which play to those themes? I'd also be interested in a top five list if you wouldn't mind writing a sentence or two about what makes each episode great.

Oh it's VF. Fuck off, imbecile.

where is that from?
hmm, I don't think I can give you some right off the top of my head. Tuvix plays on the morality part, but it can also be very muddled in its message, depending on how you read it. Still fits the theme, since it's somethign everyone had to live with. Learning Curve from S1, aside from being like the only time the show remembers it was supposed to have a Maquis vs Starfleet plotline, puts people of differing ideologies in a tight space with no higher power to come in and help ease the issue. Both sides needed to make compromises and realise they only had each other to rely on.

For episodes I personally enjoyed:
>Year of Hell (both parts)
just a very well written story where every action develops in a logical way and where you can see the rough life in a hostile part of space really could be. Every character felt important to the story and Janeway especially just got to shine and show how much she both cares for the crew and is willing to die for them.
>Prototype
I liked the characterisation of the anti-Data like Android. A well written character who worked well with one of the main cast members.
I'm rewatching the series and I'm on S4 rn so I don't remember the latter half as well as I should. So I can't recommend anything there without revisiting it again.

Get in here if you want to have comfy discussion about our favorite franchise instead of tripfag circle-jerk.

The true secret to making great Trek threads is to give them ENT OPs.

>not a single trip in the thread
what did he mean by this?
should've told me sooner, I love ENT

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An empirical study was actually conducted about it years ago

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>No TAS
>TNG shitposting not at 5 with quality discussion at a 1

I've seen the Tuvix episode and didn't really understand why there was any hesitation on Janeway's part to separate him back into Neelix and Tuvok. Tuvix was a sentient lifeform, yes, but in some ways so were the feral animals the TNG crew turned into once, so was Picard as Locutus, so is Spock when his body flips out every seven years. In all cases where a character is transformed they are either reverted to their original state, like Riker receiving the powers of the Q, or they must die.
This is likely a result of the serial format for Trek but it holds up philosophically as well. Since Janeway had the means to restore Tuvok and Neelix she absolutely had to bring them back. If restoring them were impossible then Tuvix should have been allowed to live, he does deserve to have a life just not at the expense of two other living beings.

Thank you for your recommendations, I'll check them out!

All three examples you brought up are not new forms of life, they are characters being changed, all against their own will, still the same person, just modified.

Tuvix however, was his own new form of life, neither Neelix nor Tuvok. He begged to live and Janeway didn't care, nor did any of the other crew. There's a reason why the Doctor refused to do the operation, because he knows he would be murdering Tuvix against his will

Why does Picard have a pitbull now?

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Tuvix was not a new life form. It was Tuvok and Neelix in the same body. That's why he was still in love with Kes.

It was a different time. Does anybody even make TAS threads?

>It was Tuvok and Neelix in the same body.

It was the memories and experiences of Tuvok and Neelix in that body, the combination of which created a new lifeform that was not Neelix or Tuvok. It was one that made decisions based on the combinations of those two. If it were simply the two of them trapped in one body, then they'd both agree to do the operation and get separated, however Tuvix was adamant he was his own new life, and deserved to live.

It is entirely acceptable to murder one life form if it means bringing back the two which died to create it. If it were impossible to bring them back then of course he deserved to live but the fact they're able to reverse the process and bring back the people who died, it would have been more immoral to allow Tuvix to live.
As frequently as transporters malfunction this seems like a quandary they would have solved hundreds of years ago. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Janeway was just humoring Tuvix's jape of a plea for life because she was considering how much she really needed her pedo cook but then as soon as he tried to fuck his ex-wife he blew his "I'm totally not those guys" cover and Janeway knew it was time to get the shotgun.

Their thoughts were altered by the lysosomal enzymes from the plant

Of course their thoughts were altered, because it's two brains becoming one

>two non consenting individuals create a new life that is eventually terminated for their well being
Tuvix was a metaphor for abortion

watching the original pet semetary right now and you can totally see tasha's bush when she walks down the front steps in her robe

Pics or it never happened

I don't want a ban but if you google for it you can see

Two people don't disappear when someone is born. We're not salmon.

Killing a woman’s agency > protecting a fetus

You don't lose agency if you put it up for adoption.

Bringing back Tuvok and Neelix > killing Tuvix

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It's a metaphor, autist

>Killing a woman’s agency

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God I fucking love Generations.

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Nobody who's ever been adopted wants to live. They feel alone and hated by the world around them. Just let women abort fetuses, it solves more problems than it creates.

Let's say that fictional waiting period for a divorce existed. You marry someone (or are married to them through arranged marriage) but decide that you don't want to be with them anymore. Your country says you have to wait 9 months to divorce them. Problem is, he brings back fastfood so you're getting kind of fat. Do you murder him or do you wait the 9 months to divorce him?

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>Nobody who's ever been adopted wants to live.
I know multiple adopted people who are just as happy as anyone else. In fact, my mother was adopted. Go outside once in a while. Family is more than blood. There's other people out there in the world to meet.

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Letting Tuvix live is the best option as he is better than Tuvok and Neelix, and it keeps Neelix gone

You stop feeding each other cheeseburgers, end the relationship, move out, and cut off all unnecessary communication?
Jesus dude just rip the bandaid off.

Adopted people should be put into camps and gassed. Fucking unwanteds. I fucking hate them. God fucking damn it.

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This man gets the heart of the issue.

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Abortion is a Jewish ritual of mass child sacrifice to appease Moloch.

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Adopted people should be put into a state-run astronaut program from birth and bred to be the best of the most disposable. Destiny has severed their ties with humanity so we should hurl them unto the stars.

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Jane didn't want all of her research into Tuvoks birthday go to waste

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>the empathetic gender kill the most infants in the womb
>the empathetic gender kill the most infants out of the womb
Makes you think

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im glad he died

I fucking love this cross-play.

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I just finished watching voyager,
one episode that stuck with me was season 4 episode 23 living witness.

it should have been the finale.
basically its about the legacy left by voyager in the delta quadrant, and then the back up medical holograms journey home.

leaving the mystery of if he will ever get home, which I doubt scene as all the crap voyager had to go through.

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Looks like Frakes is hoverhanding him.

Who's better? Leonard McCoy or Leonard Nimoy? Doc or Spock?
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w-what am I looking at here?

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He's grabbing HER ass.

There were no religion or tools systematic opression in Gene's vision though.

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whats ncc-1701 going to be? captain pike series?

Star Trek is, and has always been, about how cis straight white males are evil.

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nice thread

>thread having a nice discussion
>chardtarts kills discussion with his threadly spam no one responds to

stop it faggot you're killing my /trek/

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>Star Trek Upper Decker

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The name's... Charts. Tard Charts.

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You're chardtarts now, chardtarts.

pulaski should be in shit tier sorry

>20 unique ips

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Someone with severe mental illness.

racist

Is it true that Kevin Rumbarger is impotent?

this shit here also kills my /trek/

Stick to the topic, friendo, lest you get moar banz.

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So MKUltra has been reporting Bashirhomo all this time?

I've been thinking about re-ranking the cakes
I did a review of my criteria for a cakes tier and found it arbitrary at best.

its a scale between Replicated? > Looks > Taste > Candle?

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How are you this slow?

Generations has the best cinematography of the series because of DP John A. Alonso (Scarface)!!!FACT!!!

Generations was a great looking movie. Shame they had to kill off Kirk, Picard's family, the Enterprise-D and make Data an annoying prick. They also made Picard such a bitch that he had to over-compensate as ActionHeroPicard in the next three movies. The new bridge was kino, as was finally seeing the Enterprise-B.

Hey CTM, did you see that Devin Faraci is now a barista?

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Krenim trigger my tryptophobia

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Why are you a fag.

No, just trying to keep /trek/ on topic, even if what is posted here is insane.

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We never had these issues in /StaTre/

That was an awesome 5 minutes.

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Quit pushing the ear meme Mac

I hope all of the straight klingon boys that I have unrequitedly crushed on get married to ferengi womyn that get fat and ugly 5 years after they get married and then divorce them for half

>almost 26 years old
>have never had a perfect vulcan gf

I-it’s not too late right guys? I still have my youth r-right? Haha

anyone got a link to an episode mega or something, I dont have netflix D: and my ISP wont let me trrent

Just watched Year of Hell

why do people say its the best two parter in trek?

Why don't you own Trek on physical media format?

oh I do but my PC is my only screen and it doesnt have a DVD/bluray drive

Are you cute?

Because it was how people expected Voyager to be; continually patching up damage and struggling to survive. Of course, the reset button is pushed anyway.

>PC without a disk drive
Time is a flat circle

Her costume sucked so she projected it into racism

The idea of Federation robes you can slowly peel off kinda turns me on, not gonna lie. The whole religious and racist baggage she added is cringe but it reads like she was giving her character a background and the actual uniform design itself looks decent.

>Hey CTM, did you see that Devin Faraci is now a barista

HOLY MOTHER FUCKING SHIT, IS THIS REAL?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!FACT!!!

yeah it hurts because I can touch these tng episodes, I can lick them, I can rub them, but I cant view them

>Why are you a fag.

That's like asking why you enjoy the robust thick meaty taste of nigger cock!!!FACT!!!

because the writing and directing was surprisingly good
the part where the sickbay deck explodes, when janeway jumps into a fire to save the ship, and where she hugs tuvok gives me goosebumps

Your character and gimmick catchphrase are so hella abrasive and unapproachable that your presence is only going to derail this thread if you keep posting here. If you want to discuss Trek then drop the handle and participate in a constructive manner.
/trek/ is used to a higher standard of namefagging, we are not entertained by your behavior. We will not welcome you here and eventually we will ignore you entirely.

I've always thought your style is pretty rad outside of /trek/

/g/ reporting in
Change the DNS (Domain Name Server) settings to opendns (Primary 208.67.222.222 · Secondary 208.67.220.220) or Google (Primary 8.8.8.8 Secondary 8.8.4.4) on your network adapter (There are others, too). DO NOT ALLOW AUTOMATIC! Use full encryption (upstream and downstream) on your torrent engine, and you should be golden, user. Pirate ERRYTHANG U WANT.

OTAY, whiner.

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I was talking about how much I love Generations' cinematography and pussyface was being a cunt!!!FACT!!!

but it all meant nothing

>criticizes other namefag's gimmick
>"hella"
>"pretty rad"
I want all of you faggots to leave this board

I chuckled

Don't do this.

You are fucking stupid. I gave him a working solution that I use, as well. I didn't pull bullshit like "Delete System32". If it doesn't work for him, he can go back to automatic.

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We both know it's a cute girl asking for help and you're trying to spy on her through her webcam while she watches TNG

Silly user, there are no women on the internet

thanks user, il give it a try

(You) are still stupid. Go to opendns.com and see if I gave bad advice, asshole.

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Don't do this either.

I hope it helps, /trek/ fren.

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TNG set pictures with no crew spooky are sci-fi Backrooms

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Add content or fuck off.

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Is this better?

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ITS A GODDAMN CHART BURN THIS FUCKING THREAD BECAUSE IT'S RUINED MAH GAWD

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looks comfy

Take my upvote good sir XD

id prefer a good suck and fuck

*unzips dick* lmaooo

Spamming the same three pictures in all your posts is not content

*teleports behind you*

Q: Why are there no Muslims in Star Trek?
A: Because it's the future

Could someone post the "his smile and leg gone" image of nog

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>that fucked up smiles
>giant warts everywhere
the absolute state of tranny trek

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But he creeped Kes out so idk I guess it was morally justified

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If someone really had a pussy face, I think you could forgive them for being a cunt.

What would a /trek/ word cloud look like?

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>biggest word is trump
>trumps, republicans, president, donald, etc feature prominently
Rent free.

thanks trump

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>happy birthday that popular
also bashir fag

Fuck off, Jess

STICC

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jesus, alexander siddig musta drained the life outta her

>my ISP wont let me trrent

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kira was always sticc, just with a perky butte and bobbes
why the heels though? those are just silly and definitely not uniform standard

So what's 'the bit' here? There's two fags who always derail Trek threads?

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where is the hip new general with all the nice and talkative people? i hate these fucking jaded loosers of /trek/, can't be nice for one goddamn minute to newbies.

couldn't that be connected to the space police/army program trump talked about? if you take it for face value, voting trump is voting a /trek/ future as of now.