..but what does Yea Forums think of stand alone complex?

no anime have good story, chinks are uncapable of making good scripts, they can't write for shit. anyone watching anime for anything but visual is in complete delusion.

Jin Roh has 10/10 visuals and 8/10 story though

I liked it.

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will give that a chance in the future then user, but I doubt it

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One of my favorite anime actually.

i fucking loved it
also remember the episode where she tries to fuck a kid

aka nu/b/

it was quite complex

Really activated my almonds

>no anime have good story
imagine being this ignorant

excellent anime, a cult classic by now imo.
and frankly it's been a major reference for tv made mature japanimation since

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He's not talking about the 90s movie, he's talking about the piece of shit series

It has eerie Patriot-Act-era undertones, glorifying military rule etc. more than I feel comfortable with, but at the same time makes me weirdly nostalgic for a time so naive

That aside, although it may not be as philosophical and high-brow as the 1995 film it leans into the action / conspiracy thriller elements of the franchise better than any other adaptation.

It's not high art but it's well put together, doesn't take the most obvious route with its storytelling and is very enjoyable. I don't understand why the live-action adaptation had to fuck with the plot instead of just adapting one of the compilation movies beat for beat, I could have forgiven some of its other problems if they'd at least gotten the story down right.

Can somebody explain to me why this show gets such frequent shit? Because I genuinely enjoyed both seasons and the movie. Only reason I never bought the blu-ray is because the quality is shit.

>It has eerie Patriot-Act-era undertones, glorifying military rule etc
Did it? Didn't the first season end with two government departments battling it out lol

>It's not high art
what do you consider high art

GOAT
I try to re watch it every year, my only gripe is the pacing of the laughing man arc from the 1st season, great intro and build up and then its just dropped for 7 or so filler episodes and by the time they go back to laughing man you almost forget wtf was going on.

It became cartoonish with the England wine store-robbing episode. Maybe before then, but that's when I realized that I was watching trash compared to the first film.

>completely humorless (tachikoma don't count)
>Kusagani's constant resting bitch face
>...while wearing the most ridiculous fan-service outfit imaginable
>pseudo-philosopical

D R O P P E D

iirc both seasons deal with government corruption and the like, but both seasons also conclude with Section 9 deciding they need to act above the law to get justice for themselves because they're the heroes even if it's over and above protecting members of the public / exposing bad shit to the public

I think they were just trying to be blackpilled and morally ambiguous but it comes off as public freedoms always being expendable and extra-judicial killings allowed if it means the good guys get done what they want done, which jars with the rest of its "post-cyberpunk" setting (i.e. advanced technology is overwhelmingly shown to be good for society, and while wars and corruption etc. still happen life mostly carries on like normal) more than if it was just an outright dystopia like Blade Runner's world

The episode this was from - I think the second - where the dead guy gets his mind put into a fucking tank and goes to "attack" his parents whose opposition to cyberisation led to his early death, but it turns out he just wanted to show off his new metal body to his mum, was absolute fucking kino

personally I'd consider things like Tarkovsky, Oppenheimer, or Leos Carax high art but in conversational terms I mean it more broadly to describe what the general film-going public would consider high art, which would include things like Birdman or The Tree Of Life

Birdman was stupid

>the piece of shit series
the first 2 seasons are some of the best animated series Japan has ever produced for TV. SAC literally shits over thousands of them. If not tens of thousands.
But ok it's not your fucking high intellectual art piece from living god Oshii himself, therefore it's a total piece of utter garbage in the face of History for highly enlighten individuals such as yourself eh?

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>Tarkovsky
You fuckin' serious? I like Stalker as much as the next guy but you don't seriously think it compares to SAC in terms of how much interesting (not to mention relevant to present society) concepts it brings up? You may not even understand half of what's happening but if you bother to merely study some of the references you're already getting out more than a hundred movies about some guys throwing bolts around. Roadside Picnic is better than the movie anyway with how much it engages your imagination with the description of the Zone itself, which is fucking horrifying.

Debate over what is and what isn't art is fucking worthless. My pea brain doesn't understand why people care.

As a huge, huuuge GitS junkie, the first season is extremely hit or miss to the point where I don't really recommend it except for the "film" that focuses solely on the Laughing Man. I've often considered making one of those guides on which episodes to watch and which to skip for the first season. Otherwise, if you're interested, watch the Laughing Man film.

2nd Gig, by contrast, is 9/10 television. Better coloring than the first season, better animation, better stills, FAR more interesting story. 9 because the Aramaki episode where he meets up with an old flame drags down the average that much. It's a S1 tier episode, but good fun if you like the characters.

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Something pretentious that talks about biologically unaltered humans and alternates with shots of scenery and indescribable abstract shapes.

Being better than most other animes is really not a big achievement
>SAC is better than Stalker
You're fucking stupid. Roadside Picnic is fantastic though

>You're fucking stupid.
For having an opinion?

Stalker is incredibly relevant to the society it was created in, wtf

>9 because the Aramaki episode where he meets up with an old flame drags down the average that much

Dude that episode is great.

For thinking that a fucking anime is better than Tarkovsky's masterpiece

SAC could be better if you delete every scene with Tachikomas

Ye
GITS: SAC is okay
GITS: SAC 2nd Gig is mental
Major has actual back story and an arc
Great villain, great showdown, very tense

SAC and Stalker are two entirely different genres, wtf are you talking about? Stalker is totally dystopian and bleak as hell. GitS is post-cyberpunk and overall positive. Even the tone between the two is so different that a comparison is meaningless.

>S2>S1
you have bad taste.

You're generalizing and making assumptions which make you look stupid. Yeah, I think a fucking anime is better than Tarkovsky's film, is there a law somewhere that dictates that mongolian cartoons are worthless in comparison with superior Russian kino? I honestly got more out of slow burning movies like Kurosawa's Red Beard or Rashomon than I did from Stalker.

My initial argument was that there's more intellectual concepts being referenced in SAC and that's what makes it more worthwhile. It simply covers more interesting topics than Stalker, it makes you feel more and think about more.

>Being better than most other animes is really not a big achievement

I sense bismuth. Let me guess, Oshii's 95 GitS is the only big achievement in this franchise, right?

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I'm not saying it's a bad show. It's probably in the top 30 of anime.

>linking chink writting
being this pleb

I should really rewatch it.

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Such a good fuckin' design, bros.

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>hot cyborg offers you a free go
>turn her down

Why was he so fucking retarded?

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I never watched the movie so when I first saw this late night on Adult Swim as a teen with no context I was extremely confused but fascinated at the same time

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Is that a visible goddamn butthole? My fetish...

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>SAC season 3 announced
that's good!
>it's entirely 3DCG
that's bad
>the team that's working on it is experienced and made adequate looking Appleseed adaptations in the same style
that's good!
>it's a netflix exclusive
that's bad
>Kenji motherfucking Kamiyama is directing
that's good!

I'm honestly optimistic.

Contemplate the aroma bros...

What do cyborg braps smell like?

>smells like antifreeze

future oil

Probably either exhaust or warm metal, I don't remember if Major had a digestive tract

patrician coming through

GitS 2: Innocence > GitS SAC: 2nd GIG > GitS 1995 > GitS: SSS > GitS: 1st GIG

that said the entire series expect for Arise is top tier and way better than your typical anime.

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>GitS 2: Innocence
I liked that part when Togusa(?) gets hacked and Batou's face opens up

shit taste
GitS is by far the best piece of media on the list

based. The second movie is way overlooked and underrated

It's okay. It's entertaining at best, but delightful of you like the characters.

You probably like it because of the focus on the urban life rather than the Dejima refugees. That's fine, but wholly the first season is much weaker in animation, color, and engagement of episodes outside the Laughing Man.

Major Kusanagi, I'm CIA

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