>George started writing a science fiction novel called Avalon which was going well, but a chapter suddenly came to him so vividly. The chapter was Bran finding the Direwolves. By the time he had finished the chapter he knew what the next would be. It was the summer of 1991. It started with a scene, but he knew the protagonist had to be a young boy and he knew he was part of a large family. He knew he wanted them found in the summer snows.
The villain is GRRM having trouble to write Bran because he made him too young (he was literally 7-8 when the story began), so he focuses on the filler cast a lot (Tyrion has more POV chapters than anyone) but it's his story. Maybe he should have done a fucking timeskip.
Chase Morgan
>TAYLOR: (Laughs) There’s been an inevitability to the two of them coming together. It’s been foreshadowed over and over again, and those who know the books know it’s inevitable, but that doesn’t tell you anything about how it’s going to play out or how it’s going to go. I remember when I was doing Season 1 and we were on location in Malta, and George R. R. Martin came to visit. He was sitting in a chair, and he was being really quite open about things that were to come… >DEADLINE: About Jon and Dany or Game Of Thrones in general? >TAYLOR: Bit of both, but it was early days and nobody was paying attention to the show. We didn’t really know what a phenomenon it was going to be, and I think he was being less guarded than we’ve become since then. Anyways, he alluded to the fact that Jon and Dany were the point, kind of. That, at the time, there was a huge, vast array of characters, and Jon was a lowly, you know, bastard son. So it wasn’t clear to us at the time, but he did sort of say things that made it clear that the meeting and the convergence of Jon and Dany were sort of the point of the series. Plus, even Bran's actor thought season 8 was a joke.
Cope, faggot. The ending is garbage.
Kayden Gray
D&D fucked with the character and made filler cast (like Jon and Dany) relevant, what surprises you?
Nolan Jones
tyrion is not filler. he and sam are his self inserts. remember that the original idea from asoiaf was tyrion, jon and arya being in a love triangle while joffrey was gonna be normal and would kill Robb in battle
John Ramirez
Yes, they are secondary cast. Bran always was the one with the protagonist storyline. It's not the first time GRRM does this. Dunk and Egg has the child character as the future king. It's his style. The romantic storyline has nothing to do with the one who gets the throne.
Daniel Fisher
GRRM said that the point was JON and DANY, not Bran. It was always GRRM's intention to push Bran as King? Um, okay. Nobody likes Bran. Nobody cares about him. He is merely a vessel for the lore of the story. The Three-Eyed Crow/Raven was what was interesting, and the notion of Bran ruling is nonsense.
Cope, faggot. The ending is shit.
Jaxon Sanchez
imagine actually thinking people are mad just because he became king and not how he became king
David Morgan
>I can't rule anything. I am the three eyed crow >why do you thing I came over here? >grants the North independence (with the vale) for no reason >doesn't grant independence to the iron islands >everyone gets their dream ending but Dany the ending and seasons 5-8 were shit. Season 5 was boring as fuck, the rest were extremely shit.
Levi Nguyen
I agree with this though?
John Gomez
not saying you agree or disagree. just pointing out it wasn't just the ending
Cooper Diaz
Jon doesn't even get a happy ending. D&D literally made up the notion that he wanted to live with Wildlings in episode 71 of 73. At the end, he is a kinslaying, queenslaying, and pathbreaking member of the Night's Watch. No Wildling pussy. It's all ogre. The Targs are finished. Long live the Starks.
>GRRM said that the point was JON and DANY, not Bran According to D&D. According to GRRM it's Bran.
Nicholas Foster
he wanted to be in the night's watch since the very beginning. that's not a punishment. his romance with emilia clarke was terrible and they had no conection. it was forced. he got over it pretty fast too. >he is a kinslaying, queenslaying, and pathbreaking member of the Night's Watch. No Wildling pussy. nobody cares! nobody cared before when they made him king. why would anyone care now?
Adam Campbell
That Jon and Dany quote is something D&D told us though, this is by GRRM himself. The protagonist is Bran Stark. Get over yourself.
John Moore
this also OP is absolutely correct that Bran will be king, however I'm sure it wont be written like the utter fucking garbage it was in the show. The shows most memorable moments are literally verbatim from the books
Isaac Jenkins
>That Jon and Dany quote is something D&D told us You are straight up lying now.
Hunter Adams
The final season is indeed shit, but if you think that's because Bran becomes king then WEW LADDY you should go back to 'shipping' Harry Potter characters.
Logan Gutierrez
>he wanted to be in the night's watch since the very beginning Under false pretenses, you dishonest faggot. He also wanted to be Lord of Winterfell and role played as The Dragon Knight. >nobody cares! Nigga, the ending is WIDELY hated. The last Fast & Furious movie even made fun of it. What fantasy world do you live in?
James Walker
Well, this is called a strawman argument. Bran becoming King is merely the icing on the shit cake.
Ryder Jones
>Under false pretenses, you dishonest faggot. not him but why do you think Jon would be all into being king? He hasn't even left the nights watch, fuck he's literally dead as of now. I'm confused is this thread about the books or the show
Andrew Green
I see mods are being faggots again. Way to go, Albino.
Charles Lopez
Get fucked son
Joshua Clark
Whether he is into being King is irrelevant. Whether he is a bastard is irrelevant. All that is relevant is that GRRM built him up as a secret Targaryen, only to subvert our expectations and give us no payoff. Either have Jon die with Dany, or have them rule. Don't give me this King Bran garbage. Who is willingly to die for a preteen tree wizard?
James Sanchez
>It was the summer of 1991. Christ, it's as old as me and I still will never see it finished.
Cooper Johnson
My interpretation of the ending was that Bran became King, pretty much because he was there. After all the death and destruction, someone had to sit in that chair, and so they gave it to the crippled kid who lacks and ego, just because it would be the least potentially damaging thing. Tyrion weaves a bit of propaganda to win the masses over, and they get on with it. If it was actually supposed to be this triumphant moment when the series true hero takes his rightful place, then they fucked that up.
Joseph Anderson
Wait did you even read the books? Bran is still like 9, also it's HEAVILY alluded to that he is not gonna some 'good guy' tree wizard, Brynden Rivers (old irrelevant guy on a tree in the cave on the show) is clearly evil as fuck
Jason Gutierrez
>so they gave it to the crippled kid who lacks and ego, just because it would be the least potentially damaging thing. How would they figure that? None of the people there except Sam and the Starks have ever even met and spoken to Bran. And this random kid's small council could be made up by anyone who can fuck everything up. A weak king and crown is a bad thing, he can't keep anyone in line, a strong leader is what's needed or there's no incentive to listen to this guy with no army, claim or money
Michael Cruz
I don't like the ending and I stated that Bran is a preteen. I do not know what your point is. If it's "Bloodraven did it," I still do not like the ending.
Nathan James
Bran has magical powers. Very easy to win the public over based on that alone. If he needs to prove his strength, he can always inhabit some great beast.
Owen Nelson
So much for "the human heart in conflict" if the answer is Professor X.
Isaiah Peterson
>Bran has magical powers. Very easy to win the public over based on that alone. not if you are a fucking autist with zero awareness, Why wouldn't the Dornish and the Iron islanders rebel? same for the Reach after getting Bronn in charge of that kingdom. The people in slaver's bay also went against Dany and she had three dragons. She didn't win over anyone.
Eli Ortiz
You guys all fucking faggots don't understand how stories work. In a story what happens or will happen doesn't matter. What matters is doing it in a satisfying way.
Friendly reminder that the Prince of Dorne came to the throne after having all of his relatives killed off because of Northern politics, pledged himself to Dany because of old allegiances to the Targaryens, and then saw his Queen killed and her killer not only walk free, but his brother put on the throne with zero qualifications.
Friendly reminder that the Dornish armies sat out the entire war and are thus the only kingdom still in possession of a completely rested and ready army.
Friendly reminder that there's zero reason why Dorne, the most independent Kingdom by far, wouldn't declare their complete independence, especially after Sansa pulled her retarded Norexit.
Nolan Stewart
Everyone South hates magic, queer gods and wargs/skinchangers. Based on what George's own history has shown and what current characters have said. Not even wildlings like skinchangers, see Varamyr and don't forget Varamyr's statement that South of the Wall they'd kill skinchangers
Adam Baker
again, having power doesn't mean there won't be opposition. there was opposition for the Targaryens in Dorne, even with their huge army and dragons, there was opposition for Dany with her three dragons. The children of the forest had magical powers and had green drean like Bran and they still got pushed back to the deepwood and beyond.
Eli Hall
>maximum awareness. ah yes. because saying that your sister looked beautiful the night she was raped shows extreme awareness.
the main character has and is irrefutably the first POV character Bran. It's the fuckign awful way the kikes dropped the ball in closing the saga
Jacob Russell
The first point of view is Waymar Royce, and I will take the word of somebody who actually spoke to GRRM over you, an anonymous person on an imageboard.
Jordan Lopez
nigger user thinks a prologue is a POV, get fucked faggot
Angel Moore
>haha Tolkien sucks he shouldn't have brought gandalf back I'd have left him dead for REALISM AND CONSISTENCY >now check out MY series where a dragon riding zombie fights ice monsters
Jason Sullivan
He told D&D the ending, I know it's hard to swallow but king cripple is literally how itll end for the books too. Jon was never going to sit in that chair and neither was Dany.
Lucas Baker
>this shit again I don't like Martin but if dragons and zombies exists canonically in a world it's not breaking the in-world realism. breaking the realism of a series would be expecting a strong kingdom like the Vale kneeling to a northern king (who botched the battle, killing thousands) instead of making SweetRobin king of the Vale and North
Adam Lee
Tyrion, Jon, Daenerys, Arya, dead Caitlyn Tully, and Sansa all have more chapters in the books then Bran. It’s not filler. George has lore that says a bunch of people had to work together to end the first long night. It will be the same way. Just because a character ends up as king doesn’t make the rest mean nothing.
Thomas Martin
I at no point made an argument to the contrary, so I have no idea what the point of your post is. My argument is the ending is shit.
Ethan Hall
There's a POV in the prologue and it covers White Walkers, too.
Luis Gomez
If there was realism, that shit wouldn't have happened in the first place. Sansa wouldn't have lied, Jon wouldn't have done a suicide charge, and the Vale wouldn't have traveled to Winterfell undetected.