This is in a show made for kids

>tfw I was taught to associate self-worth with finding a gf

What show?

This is what they teach in liberal arts colleges. It's much worse than just tumblr land whales

AABF19

Is this 12 foerever? Yea Forums talks about this shit all the time. These fags needs to be purged off the site and just have a board for comic books only.

no one on this board has kids and if they do, thats more concerning than some one off libtard line on a shitty cartoon

5%?
More like 3%
And that is being generous

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>girls need to be "taught" to want boyfriends
zogged af

>This is in a show made for kids

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Kids don't watch cartoons anymore, this is for bugmen.

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Literally what is the problem with educating children on heteronormativity and gender identity?

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>phew I thought it'd be about ga--

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gamers?

How about the fact that those two things are retarded and fake? Might as well teach flat earth and creationism.

>making big bucks

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>having your children watch shitty cartoons made by koreans when you could be teachign them to read and question the world around them and play vidya

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But there's been countless numbers of boardgames just like that. There have been countless number of cartoons that do that too. Glad to hear the creators are actually talking about it.

It's like CIS gender. These are just ways for the mentally ill to try and marginalize normal people.

>How about the fact that those two things are retarded and fake?

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i dont have any kids

I’d say 7 if you include closeted individuals

They are, it's all hack ideology, nothing else.

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cringe

>I'm angry that kids today are smarter than I am

Late 2019, the moment everyone agrees that wojak is boring garbage lefty cucks start rampantly posting it on every single board.

12 Forever

Reminder that they are starting to phase out "men" and "women" with "people with penises" and "people with vaginas."

My kids are only allowed to watch me play with myself

Fuck you for making me google that.

Can't find any footage of the video in OP but I found this.
WTF are they trying to teach kids?

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Tumblrtoons aren’t actually made for kids. They’re made for adults with the mentality of kids.

Burn western animation to the ground.

I don’t have a kid but I have a niece that I take care of like a father. She will not be allowed to watch shit SJW shit like Steven Universe

Not an argument.

Go back to tumblr, faggot.

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>WTF?? This isn't the bone chilling slow burn of a poorly reserached Stefan Molyneux video?!?!?!

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can you be surprised when this is the creator? these shows are tailor made for offsprings of east coast and sf neurotic kikes, it's tumblr reaction gif bait

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She's also allegedly a raging alcoholic that would touch her staff inappropriately.

post season 5 spongeob>>>>>>>>>>>literally anything on nu-CN

I actually like the odd little halo hair thing he has going on.

What are Yea Forums approved cartoon kinos?

>AABF19
do not google this. it's fucking disgusting.

It's ok dude, stupid people can still make it in the world

probably less than that. 3% is america and they love fags. most other places shun it so its probably 1 or 2%. maybe less

depending on country, it seems like it is usually a bit more than 5 percent that identify as gay:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

Note that "identify as" naturally does not include secretly gay. Also, older people are included, and they have been overall much more repressed on the issue.

Even so, that makes it more than one in twenty. Which is a lot. It is actually quite common.

>east cost

You've obviously never been here but no one here likes fags outside of new York. Have you ever even left your shithole state?

The real "big think" is that this show is supposed to be about 12 year olds around the year 2000, so why would a KID born in the late 1980s/early 1990s be saying stupid late 2010s shit like "heteronormative"- which isn't even really popular outside of internet-brained feminist weirdos right now anyway.

Also the main character is apparently bisexual.

It's like making a comic in the 1950s about obese women fighting "fatphobia"- shit like that didn't exist back then, and in the early 2000s you didn't have bisexual middle schoolers talking about heteronormativity.

>heteronormative
I genuinely feel bad for kids today. They can't even just have fun, entertaining cartoons.

Only kids I have are in a bitch's mouth

Please explain what was objectively wrong with that segment of a cartoon I never fucking heard about? Since you feel the need to complain about it.

This. The hey arnold movie, rocko's modern life, a show about the early 2000s where all the characters are gay or whatever- all of these are meant to appeal to people born in the 1980s and 1990s overdosing on nostalgia from their teens/childhood.

Increasingly I find myself desiring to join the military and see battle, in order to dispell childhood innocence forever so I don't ever become one of these "people" who are determined on trying to regain their childhood even as they are staring down 40 years old and occasionally have children of their own. Embarrassing fuckheads.

>CalArts
>for kids

user, the new wave of western cartoons is not for kids, but for manchildren adults. Have you watched them? They are childish in visuals and script, but filled with 80's and 90's nostalgia bait. Do you think kids really give a fuck about glam metal, overarch stories, and shit like that?

Kids nowadays watch anime. Unironically. Try to ask a zoomer what is on Cartoon Network right now, and then ask what is happening in the new arch of Dragon Ball Super: Only the ones who act like faggots will know anything about western cartoons.

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Overall, the US is still a very prudish place. While culture is heavily sexualized, sexuality itself is still demonized up to levels of religious fundamentalism.

>t. dropout who doesn't know that liberal arts schools encompass science and math too

>it's fake because I say so ahhh

Go back Yea Forumsmbler

>I want to go into literal combat overseas because cartoons for teenagers have gays in them
kek, good luck retardo. Nobody this fragile even makes it in the army.

Remember when children's entertainment was made for children, not weird adult women?
Remember when people got hit on the head with bowling balls and stuff?

>It's animation, so it must be for children

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Was this the start of clown world kino? youtu.be/g9SHQgwee3A

That's not an answer.

"You are not allowed to watch this show. It promotes unhealthy ideas like being nice and understanding towards each other."
What a great role-model you must be...

I accept your concession.

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why do they have bubble dicks?

Go take a bullet for Israel you humongous fag

Yes, i'm as qualified to talk about this nonsense as the people who earn money with it. That's how intellectually bankrupt it is.

>some meathead faggot burger is a homophobe
gee, I sure am surprised.

Why does every cartoon look the fucking same these days? I'm not nearly as pissed about the forced politics as I am the complete lack of soul and quality.

It’s propganda for mentally ill shit

hot

It is actually. This is a show whos target audience is children. Why feel the need to slip that line in? Does your average child even know what heteronormativity even is? Why do you think children need to watch tumblr-toons? What happened to cartoons being funny?

You aren't explaining why at all, retard. It's like you don't understand the terms?

t. based neets

>REEEEEE WOMEN SHOULDN'T LOVE MEN!!!

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Can one of you triggered /pol/acks actually explain why its bad that kids know what heteronormative means?

Because of the forced politics. That's the center of their dedication, everything else is secondary.

this is an American children's cartoon
youtube.com/watch?v=yE8ROHu03Xw

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No, she’s not allowed to watch shows made by pedophiles and features ideologies that promote pedophilic behaviors.

Pic related, the VA of Steven (an underaged kid)

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this is a Japanese children's cartoon

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Remember when cartoons like Hey Arnold would talk about issues in terms children could actually understand, because they were written for children?

Explain why it is not, retard. It's like you don't understand the terms?

Why is it good to teach them tranny shit?

Gee, that's a sorry bunch.

I wish someone were to give them a shower, a shave and haircut, some nice clothes, and probably a hobby and some education - they might be nice folks after all.

So they don't grow up to be disingenuous retards like you? Do you know why they should?

I reject the whole hypothesis that gender roles are a bad thing.

Damn, I want to have sex with that drawing of a girl.

Do you do extensive background checks to find out who is a "pedophile" or do you just make them up as you go along if you don't like the show? Because nobody involved with SU is a pedo nor has ever been convicted of being one.

unironically this

what about the traumatized/mentally ill?

Lauren Zuke, a storyboard artist for Steven Universe. Groomed and abused a teenager. The abusee came forward about their abuse and she was let go from the show.

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>if I just say things they will be true

that's not the conversation we are having.
It's not a term that is positive or negative, it's just a term people use. I'm not sure why you need to spergout over it.
I don't see anywhere in that clip where "gender roles are bad" is implied

So really, you are all (not a samefag of course) upset at the idea that kids know about something? I don't understand the issue, it doesn't change anything. You fucking pearl clutching faggots are really something. Kids watch gore, violence and sex but they can't hear the word heteronormative?

Get a grip.

Why do you think they are pedophiles?

It poisons the well of future intellectual enterprise by implanting these extremely flimsy and biased phrases like “heteronormative”, you ever try talking to a religious nut? It’s because they got exposed to religion at such a young age their mind goes into cognitive dissonance when confronted with conflicting ideas. Same shit here, these tv shows are gonna turn your kids into smarmy asshole who think they know better than you and your outdated ways even if you yourself might have reached your conclusion by examining many ideas and philosophies including the ones they’re spouting.

>be on Yea Forums
>complain about pedos

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Not sure what you mean?

You have a link? That's a really big stretch btw, the storyboard artist....

That's not the "creators of the show". I just want you to admit you're easily ruffled by your own identity politics horseshit that makes you as emotionally infantile as a landwhale.

>do you think
You are probably arguing with 4 different posters right now. I never said anything about pedos.

If you frame the term "heteronormative" in a bad light, then that's what you're implying.
Violence, gore, and sex are unironically less damaging than stuffing a load of gay subversion into children's brains, yes.

so basically, a bizarre slippery slope fallacy because you think a term like "heteronormative" is politicized by anyone outside of fringe faggots like yourself?

imagine watching tv or film and they use the word heternormative. Which walmart you shooting up first?

>hetronormative
B-but.. being hetreosexual is objectively "the norm".. An overwhelming majority of people are heterosexual.. That's what "the norm" means..

What is happening to this world? Am I the one that's going crazy?

Norms are bad. You have to go gay, so we can reduce the population numbers, and solve climate change.

no sauce?

>Violence, gore, and sex are unironically less damaging than stuffing a load of gay subversion into children's brains, yes.
this is why you get laughed at outside of either here or reddit. I hope you know. This is the type of ridiculous bullshit that makes people think you're mentally ill. Imagine thinking that gays "existing" in cartoons is just as bad as violence and overt sexual content.

the fucking wew on your stupid ass.

>It's not a term that is positive or negative, it's just a term people use. I'm not sure why you need to spergout over it.
You still didn't awnser my question as to why have it in there in the first place? When your average child still thinks babies come from Fedex boxes.
>So really, you are all (not a samefag of course) upset at the idea that kids know about something? I don't understand the issue, it doesn't change anything. You fucking pearl clutching faggots are really something. Kids watch gore, violence and sex but they can't hear the word heteronormative?
Honey. If you want your children to watch this generic calarts slop, go right ahead. No one is stopping you.

so this is what nerd from Yea Forums watch and discuss? Im glad I don't visit that board

Seems like a redpilled show. What's the issue

Brainlet. The reason we are overpopulated is because of Africa. Westerners are dying out as it is.

>You still didn't awnser my question as to why have it in there in the first place?
Because it's not a bad thing that kids are forbidden from being told about? You're just a pearl clutcher "AHHH KIDS CAN'T LEARN ABOUT (X) IN A POSITIVE ENVIORNMENT THINK OF THEIR CHILD BRAINS", has never been an argument. Do you have a gripe with Mr. Rodgers explaining the Kennedy Assassination to kids too?
>when your average child still thinks babies come from Fedex boxes
the show in OP's link, is for teenagers. No literal baby is watching it you fucking retard.

It’s like teaching kids about healing crystals and flat earth.

>Imagine thinking that gays "existing" in cartoons is just as bad as violence and overt sexual content.
Where did he say that?

Violence and sex are a part of life. Children have to learn what this stuff is sooner or later. That is not the same thing as seeding their mind with the idea that it's better to go against the grain, and normality is somehow wrong.

well it's a waste of time considering it has no practical use. Gender is a completely meaningless term when you follow the leftist rules, for example:

>Bill says his gender is boy
>bill is biological male
>but dresses like a girl
>his gender is boy

HOWEVER

>Bill says his gender is girl
>bill is biological male and dresses like a boy
>bill is still a girl because whatever

AS WELL

>Bill says he has no gender
>he is a biological male
>and dresses like a boy
>and expresses himself like a boy
>it is still correct that bill is agender because whatever

gender identity is meaningless in the truest form of the word. What is even the purpose? If you meet a girl, and she acts like a girl, and wants to fug you and love you, and she says
>btw my gender is boy
what does that even matter?

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>>Violence, gore, and sex are unironically less damaging than stuffing a load of gay subversion into children's brains, yes.

Don't be a racist. We have to save all the Africans.

right, must have clicked on the wrong post. sorry

you're literally so fucking warped by hyperpolitics that you read into this 20 seconds of a cartoon you've never heard about before today, where you think they are promoting that normality is wrong. When they aren't.

I'm asking you to get mental help. Truly.

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what do you think the term "heteronormativity" means?

Why else frame the term heteronormative in a negative light? Literally why do that?

That's not an argument. You literally make arguments like a Christfag. Do you terms like "degeneracy" too?

>It's animation, NOT CARTOON, so it must be for adults.

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>gays "existing" in cartoons
Nice moving the goalposts idiot. Literally nobody said that. Good job destroying the strawman you yourself built. It's amazing how successful you are in arguments when your only opponents are figments of your imagination.

Why are you Americans this retarded?

I know you have severe autism, but that's not what the show is doing.

Reminder: This is a joke about heteronormativity

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The idea that it's normal and correct to be hetero, which it is.

Americucks

Please explain what "gay subversion" even is then you fucking retard. Do you write articles for Breitbart?

>this is a cool board game, but it's a little bit gay
>this is a cool neighbourhood, but it's a bit black
Am I framing these things in a positive light?

>Because it's not a bad thing that kids are forbidden from being told about?
You're the type of parent to sit their child in front of a tv and let it do all the parenting.
>You're just a pearl clutcher "AHHH KIDS CAN'T LEARN ABOUT (X) IN A POSITIVE ENVIORNMENT THINK OF THEIR CHILD BRAINS",
Honey. I just told you. If you want to let your child watch shit like this then you do you.
>Do you have a gripe with Mr. Rodgers explaining the Kennedy Assassination to kids too?
Don't you dare compare Mr.Rogers to this tumblrdyke """"childrens show"""". There's a difference between explaining the concept of death to a child versus bitching about muh heteronormativity.

I'm assuming you're trolling, but clown world has advanced so far that there is a good chance you are actually serious.

I feel bad for my children. I hope the pendulum will have swung back to a more reasonable position once they're of age.

i hate faggots and also trannies

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user, you have the autism if you can't pick up on that stuff.

>let's play this board game it's my favourite
>it's a little X but I still like it

how could X not be negative?

I absolutely guarantee that if Rodgers was around today, you'd complain that he was "teaching kids to be liberal cucks" with teaching them kindness and being fair to minorities. I know because /pol/ currently does that, right now.

You're all a bunch of underdeveloped teenagers.

>the show in OP's link, is for teenagers. No literal baby is watching it you fucking retard
Do you actually you're average teen watches this crap?

Again, nice strawman. You literally proved my point directly after me making it. You are just straight up dumb.

>nobody involved with SU
>That's a really big stretch btw
>That's not the "creators of the show"
What a piece of mealy mouthed shit you are.

I'm confused, do you have some sort of cognitive issue where you can't understand things?

teaching children that homosexuality is okay and acceptable.

Africans need help, because they're starving. White people need to have less kids, because they're over populating the earth. What don't you understand?

Yes, it is normal and correct to be heterosexual, if that's who you are.

But the term is mostly used when folks want to make it the norm, and everybody has to accord to it. Which is not healthy.

Do you understand the difference?

Buddy, you literally said "gay subversion" in an earlier post. I'm asking what the fuck that is/means?

Well, you go ahead and act disingenuous about it all, if that makes you happy.

What are my identity politics?

you keep thinking heteronormative is some sort of slur or negative terminology when it isn't. Christ, am I being baited? You can't be this sensitive.

The cultural subversion has been underway for hundreds of years. Rogers was just a less advanced version of it.

I didn't make any post containing that phrase. What made you assume I was the same user?

Okay user, then explain the proper interpretation of those couple of sentences

>my favourite boargame of all time
>it's a little heteronormative
>and it teaches self worth from bf
>but come on guys, it's fun

see that "but" there

You have yet to prove a storyboard artist groomed an underage child and your original argument was "the creators of the show". Which a storyboard artist isn't.

Learn to make better arguments around your propaganda.

>I absolutely guarantee that if Rodgers was around today, you'd complain that he was "teaching kids to be liberal cucks" with teaching them kindness and being fair to minorities.
Are you actually implying that he wasn't called shit like that back then?
>I know because /pol/ currently does that, right now
>if you dont like my faggot shit ur a poleturd!!?!?!?!?!!
I don't even browse that board sweetie. Sorry but not everyone who disagrees with you comes from the meanie board.

It is the norm, and most people should be encouraged to accord to it, especially children who are still figuring out what everything is and need proper guidance.
If they decide to be gay later in life, well, that is what it is. I ask that they do it quietly in a corner somewhere, and try not to spread too much aids.

Yes, user: everyone who disagrees with you is disingenuous. It's not that you're wrong at all.

Subversion of cultural norms to value the gay over the straight. What's not to understand?

>it's a way of marginalizing a normal person

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What if they wanna get a fake pp

>heteronormative
what in the flippity fuck is wrong with this world
someone nuke america already

>heteronormative
i don't get this. aren't homos a small percentage of the population?

>I don't browse that board
>BUT MR ROGERS IS PART OF A CENTURIES LONG CULTURAL SUBVERSION TO DESTROY THE YOUTH AHHH THE LIBERAL MARXIST JEWS ARE OUT TO SUBVERT THE MINDS OF KIDS AND ACCEPT GAYS AND WE NEED A DAY OF THE ROPE AND I WISH I COULD GO TO WAR TO END MY CHILDHOOD NOSTALGIA AHHH DEUS VULT

>this is my best friend. He's a bit of a nigger, but I still like him

When looking at history, it has proven again and again that homosexuality is completely harmless, especially in contrast to bigotry and narrow-mindedness.

So yeah, let's teach children that folks like different things, and that it is ok.

then I'm out

"gay OVER straight
What's not to understand? This literally isn't happening.

>actually proves his point and declares himself as retarded
nice strat

>This is in a show made for kids

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>higher rates of suicide
>higher rates of intravenous drug use
>higher rates of STDs

>as far as I'm concerned AIDS is cured, just don't do needles, and don't fuck guys in the ass

It's not okay to be gay when you look at the numbers

Who the actual fuck are you quoting. You know I can actually see how you are a fan of the show seeing as how you are very clearly mentally ill, probably a tranny too. Seek therapy honey and realize that not everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi. Unless of course this is bait, in which case I give you an A for effort.

you're a traditionalist stormnigger and I can most likely guess a list of other opinions you have. You're probably a mutt, maybe from South America or at the very least, the East coastline of the US.

Want to prove me wrong?

If this makes you feel anything but indifference you are legit retarded

It is though. It's implicit in all of the rhetoric that being straight is just boring and lame, if not outright harmful.

Why do you think people should be encouraged to accord to the norm? Are you a normie?

The main part of the joke is that there were a lot of boardgames in the real world that were targeted at little girls, about the importance of having a boyfriend.

Do you have a problem with pointing that out or something?

Most norms are norms for a reason.

>kids
>implying you've had sex
have sex

>stormnigger
Dude. Did you seriously just say the N-word?
>You're probably a mutt, maybe from South America or at the very least, the East coastline of the US.
And a racist too. As if that already wasn't obvious from the first sentence

I've never watched the show, not a tranny. Can I guess that you think Jews are behind this?

The problem is the implication that it's a bad thing.

You're just a schizoid then. It's quite literally not happening but you register gays doing (anything) as some sort of attack.

Deviation from heterosexuality is a mental illness

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lol then answer me honestly:

-thoughts on Jordan Peterson
-the fact that Jews don't control Hollywood
-Cultural Marxism isn't a real thing that is happening
-Trump is a shitty President and a bad conservative

share with me.

Can I guess that you need mental help and possibly a dilation station?

It IS a bad thing to teach girls that they only need a boyfriend to be happy, yeah. Are you a shitty parent?

everyone gains self worth from finding a partner, men and women. Just look at the fucking incels here that can't get relationships.

Obviously you need to nurture self worth from your self and your own abilities, but if you can't get a partner ever, chance are something is fucking wrong with you.

>you're a traditionalist stormnigger and I can most likely guess a list of other opinions you have.

Nope, not even into racial politics. You sound like a seething tumblrette

great thread guys

>TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY
there it is.

they do need a boyfriend to be happy, and to have children and raise a family. You think these fucking landwhales with purple hair are happy with their gender studies degrees?

Can someone post that one article of the Sex and the city producers regretting not settling down and starting a family?

S’all good.

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If it barks like a dog...

I know you know that those things happen because gay people are marginalized.
Not because it is how gay people are.

I believe you are smarter than to fall for those misreadings.

foxnews.com/entertainment/sex-and-the-city-author-candace-bushnell-regrets-not-having-kids-says-she-was-truly-alone

roastie cope. have kids

Hmm, considering how many asexual people are on this board, you probably won't like it here very much.

>Slippery slope
>fallacy

I fucking wish

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>Do you do extensive background checks to find out who is a "pedophile"

All this shit is easily googlable.

>Wanting the mentally ill to have kids

anal sex is at higher risk for HIV contraction than vaginal. They also have much higher rates of extra partners, so that doesn't help with the stds.

They're marginalized because they're mentally ill, in the same way that schizophrenic people are marginalized, normie people don't like being around ab-normal people.

>you only have value if you are in a relationship with someone
that's not a healthy belief, user.

>and it teaches girls to associate self-worth with finding a boyfriend
I should have realized sooner than cal arts is the femcel breeding ground. How could I have been so blind?

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Do you think you sound normal? Honestly...

>your self-worth is determined by if you are with a boyfriend/girlfriend
this is incel thinking.Get a hobby.

user, you as a man may look at kids and just go like "yeah, having kids seems alright" without any kind of gut reaction, but women CRAVE IT at a deeper level, their eyes shine when they look at children playing. Imagine how you crave for sex, how you suffer if you don't have it, how your behavior change within weeks of not masturbating, women don't have that kind of aggressive sex drive, but they do in regards to having kids.

Teach your daughter that she doesn't need relationships and she won't look for them, because relationships require effort, and she will end up alone and truly miserable. I do have cat ladies in my family, and you can see the pain in their eyes.

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>implying gay suicide has gone down in the past few decades despite all this fag acceptance propaganda
>implying gay people suck and fuck in anonymous gloryholes because wyppeoopl bully them

ask those incels how happy they are

fuck, I live just outside Santa Clarita and saw an interview with Allison Brie talking about her crazy college years and suddenly have the urge to take some extended ed classes there

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>everyone who criticizes me is a "seething tumblrette"
convenient. Means you can avoid any real self-reflection and growth.

Only when the culture unites as one to celebrate it, while simultaneously painting all notions of normality as the villain.
You can choose not to make the connections and see all of this if you like, but it's all there.
I can only lead a horse to water.

K

if you still post here when you have kids then cartoons are the least of your problems. same goes for reddit or any social media btw

>be biological organism that reproduces sexually
>all instincts hardwired to pass on genetics
>not only do you not have a desire to fuck women to sexually reproduce
>you're actually sexually attracted to the same sex
>someone else points this out
>call that person the non-normal one...not the person that wants to butt fuck the same sex

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You haven't proved a single person on SU being a pedophile though. It's like you are hoping your claims go unchallenged or something? Huh...really makes me rattle the noggin.

I'm looking at this thread and the only ones here who lack self awareness are the people arguing in favor of the garbage heap "children" show.

Horrible art style + writing
Fuck

yes, that is a fallacy.

>be 60 years old
>no kids
>no family
>but at least I made 300 model planes
>time to die

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Tom & Jerry was peak slapstick.

>it's like, the connections man!
yeah, you aren't a schizoid.

this is why youtube is taking over. my 7yo nephew watches girls at the beach on yt rather than cartoons on tv

You imply that things have gotten better for gays. And that is probably true for adults that live in large cities.
Suicide is highest among adolescents, and most people do not live in large cities...

>this person with heavy influence over faggot propaganda sexually abused and groomed another person
>(You) b-but she aint no pedo
Please kill yourself

I am a schizoid, but I'm also right.

>be human race
>engage in homosex for literal centuries
>witness thousands of other species do it constantly
>all of a sudden, in the last 200 years, it's bad now
>completely reject the idea that human sexual dimorphism is complex
>start punishing bad sex you dislike
>end up causing an entire era of repressed straights, bis and gays
>get confused why everyone is miserable and killing themselves

Are you saying, in all this, you are the victim?

Again, you keep making this claim that you haven't verified that this person "sexually abused and groomed" someone. Why won't you just fucking prove it? It's like you don't have any information at all to cite or something?

I'm sorry I'm not gullible like you.

80% of people live in urban areas. Grasp harder fagboy.

Again, do you think you sound normal?

WoOoOaAaAaAaAHhHhH DUDE, BAZINGA!
Anyone invested in the survival of this society is the victim.

yes and the animals that are homos don't reproduce either and end up being genetic dead ends. We also witness rape in most other species too. So those appeals to nature do nothing.

Never said anything about punishing homos, just don't glorify it. The same way you wouldn't glorify schizophrenic.

>Redpilled
In your leftist delusions perhaps

>the people who lack self-awareness aren't the ones crying about a children's show and I happen to agree with them politically
color me shocked, retard.

leftists see the norm as inherently bad

it's why nothing is ever enough for them

City Slickers aren't people.

The thing on the left looks like it's a worm from Pathologic

>not posting on Yea Forums with your child

>the ol "rape happens in nature, so you can't point out that homosexuality is common" argument
>being gay is like being schizophrenic
I'll remind you that the DSM hasn't argued homosexuality as a mental illness since before you were fucking born and decades before that even. Oh, but I know...it's all just an elaborate conspiracy by Big Gay or something blah blah blah.

>dsm
lmao

The issue I have with that notion is the fact the people saying that is not a fallacy turning a blind eye to the actions of the people promoting the actions.

Abortion:
(then) we want safe and legal abortion

it was then stated that it would lead to a "slippery slope" and now we have people screaming for abortion on demand even mid birth abortions in illinois

same thing with gay marraige, I'm fine with it, but now people have been screaming for pedophile rights, if you don't bake a cake or wax a transgenders balls you're a biggot and people try to ruin your life.

I want you to be right, I want it to be a fallacy, but the people saying this shit would happen were right.

yes

rightists see anything against the norm as inherently bad

it's why everything is fine and nothing can ever change for them

It's not like they're just people who are influenced by social pressures too, or anything.

>be jew
>revise history
>look see its normal we've always been doing this
lol no

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What's with the insult? Are you dense?
And no, not everybody lives in San Francisco, LA or New York.

Go dilate tranny

people who make shit like this shold be put up against a wall and shot

>da Jew
>/pol/ image macros now
kek, literally every time. You are all the same.

Hell half of us Jew Yorkers hate fags too

I'll remind you the only reason homosexuality was delisted as a mental illness was because homos stormed a conference and yelled until they changed it. No new scientific breakthroughs actually occurred

no they don't they just start from the premise that something must be proven to be good before it overtakes the norm

leftists start from the opposite assumption, that the norm should be proven to be good. Generally, since "proving a norm to be good" is the harder argument, they never stop finding the changes to be good

Based

It's like they were all animated by the same team at CN. If you want a show to have good visuals, you have to start your own studio.

And how are you invested in the survival of society?
Because it sure seems like you are talking shit on an anime imageboard. Not really hero material...

I'm pretty sure Billy and Mandy had a lot more of random social commentary but OP is a dumb faggot that thinks this is a recent thing because le libtards

Your revisions don't work here fag. You're gonna have to try something else to justify your faggotry.

Yes, every decision you dislike is part of an elaborate conspiracy you fuckhead.

the Romans must have been Jews as well I guess because they 100% bought into that interpretation of Greek culture.

Marcus Aurelius complains a lot about male sex slaves travelling with the army, indicating it was totally out in the open and something he recognized he couldn't prevent even if he wanted.

Plus gay sex was not recognized as aberrant by the Assyrians, who pre-dated the Greeks by hundreds of years.

Oh of course you do, honey. And I am sure you will, once you have put some mileage on your soul and maybe talked to someone for a while...

Yeah, that's completely false though.

>nature good except when nature not good
just because something is common doesn't mean it's "good"
autism is common but it's considered a mental illness, and considering that being gay drastically increases the likely hood that someone is going to have impulse control as gays have higher suicides, rates of contracting infections diseases, drug usage, etc. I don't claim we should have conversion therapy to turn them straight, if you wanna fuck dudes thats the least of the issues I have about gay people. They need help with all the other things, but the secret about it is, is that they love all of that. The orgies, the drugs, and all the other shit cause, "its our culture"

Scrubbed from tumblr but this was her 16 year old girlfriend’s comic made after they cut off contact.

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The internet is the new public square, if you hadn't noticed.

>my "other side I don't like" do silly things and make silly arguments
Nobody has ever argued that heterosexuality ISN'T the norm, just that gays or lgbtq people existing isn't a "cause" or fight you have to dedicate time and energy to defeat just because you dislike what they do with their own lives. For shit's sake, they were a legal second class citizen just a few years ago.

>bought into that interpretation of Greek culture.
that doesn't follow

Nor do the stats include gay people who are secretly straight or are repressed by their child-molesting gay parents into thinking they're gay too.

If only we could get a media crack down and enforce a sexually repressed narrative

It is though.

Okay, so you don't have any substantial evidence for your claims then?

Ok.

social pressure is the opposite of a conspiracy theory retard

>defending a document that claims temper tantrums are a disorder and chopping your dick off is legitimate treatment for "dysphoria"

Ok Zuke

>you have higher risk of suicide because of the gayness in you
Being a /pol/nigger must be exhausting, all these boogeymen in your closet.

read a book you stupid cunt, lol.

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Yes, you are here for a noble cause. Keep telling yourself that, kid.

woah dude...

The best part is that CIS stands for Comfortable In Skin, implying that anyone who tries to divert from their biological sex will never actually be comfortable in their own skin.

You're not that intellectually bankrupt where you think that a comic strip is evidence of a literal crime, right?

Did you know that the cutoff for mental retardation used to be 85 IQ? They later moved it to 70 following the civil rights era.

Its almost like definitions are changed to fit an agenda.

phillyvoice.com/philly-honoring-psychiatrist-who-challenged-designation-homosexuality-mental-illness/

>Beginning in the 1960s, activists Frank Kameny, a Harvard-educated astronomer, and Barbara Gittings began organizing a campaign against the APA's designation of homosexuality.
>They barged into the APA's annual meeting in 1971 in protest and were allowed to organize a panel on a topic for the following year.

>silly
never said that
>just because you dislike what they do with their own lives
disingenuous
>they were a legal second class citizen just a few years ago
no they weren't

have you considered moving to the Middle East?

Well, I'm here to shitpost and have fun, but that doesn't mean this site can't be very influential.

Heteronormative: denoting or relating to a world view that promotes heterosexuality as the normal or preferred sexual orientation.

This term is fucking stupid because of course heterosexuality is the normal sexual orientation. Its the most common.

The idea that it is the most preferred is also a fucking no brainer once pearl clutching homosexuals get over themselves.

To have society you need humans. To make humans you need parents and to be parents you need to engage in heterosexual sex.

And don't be a fucking contrarian semantics arguing nigger and throw out those one out of a million cases of some tranny man being impregnated by a tranny woman.

Almost all humans are the product of heterosexual sex and almost all humans after us will be the products of heterosexual sex.

This is why the concept of heteronormativity is not just stupid, its very existence is indicative of how fucking fragile homosexuals and their allies are.

"How dare you act like heterosexuality is . . . normal!"

>social pressure is the opposite of a conspiracy theory retard
You're just crying that it's "muh social pressure" because you disagree with the decisions made by the DSM, you dumb faggot.
>chopping off your dick is a legitimate treatment for dysphoria
except no scientist or medical physician has ever attempted to make this argument as a form of treatment, Ahmed.

Actually that’s the backronym. Cis is just Latin for “normal”

you're saying that because they had somewhat of a buttfucking culture that they must have gotten that from the greeks, which doesn't follow
>read a book
ironing

cis and trans also derive from latin, because it's used in chemistry when working with different isomers.

My neighborhood has hundreds of islamic somalis so theres no need

It’s not a crime if you don’t get caught

hey ARNOLD!

latin for "same side"

I didn't argue that the barging in never happened, I argued that it wasn't just "UH OH DA GAYS ARE MAD NOW BETTER CHANGE SCIENCE", like some sort of easily duped retard who spends his hours whining about gay people. That isn't what happened with the DSM, the change was gradual in their definition of what constituted a mental illness and how homosexuality didn't fit that criteria.

Cope harder, Cletus. This has been a non-issue for 50 years now.

fucking hell my dad walked in when I was downloading this thing
thank got he didn't came closer

thetrevorproject.org/resources/preventing-suicide/facts-about-suicide/

>he must love /pol/ because he says something I dislike

Its not the gayness that does it you tard. It's not the part of wanting to fuck the same gender that does it, it's just how the brains are wired. It's a serious issue that needs serious help, and combating "heteronormality" isn't the solution. Acceptance is a good starting point but a large part is actual brain chemistry

It's because the standard deviation of IQ is 15. So by the previous definition of retardation, more than 15% of people are retarded.

Of course IQ is no measure of whether people actually use their intelligence, which this thread demonstrates.

>no they weren't
They did not have access to legal marriage certificates as natural born citizens, yes. That is a second class you stupid cunt.

>You're just crying that it's "muh social pressure" because you disagree
So we've established you were being stupid then. And no, it's that there was no research behind the change, or any of these changes that people generally say the DMV is worthless garbage over
>except no scientist or medical physician has ever attempted to make this argument as a form of treatment
yes they literally do you fucking moron, along with hormones

>non issue
>gays still have higher rates of std contraction

Okay then

>So by the previous definition of retardation, more than 15% of people are retarded.
Okay but they are.

>gay brains make them more susceptible to suicide
Do you actually believe this?

>this has been a non-issue
because they keep adding new retarded updates warranting outrage

>that it wasn't just UH OH DA GAYS ARE MAD NOW BETTER CHANGE SCIENCE
what specifically was it then?

why should they? they can't reproduce, which was the whole point of marriage.

>I didn't get a sports scholarship
>but you don't play sports?

fags are unironically mentally ill

the belief is more that whatever causes somebody to be gay (likely hormonal imbalance in the womb) causes the other mental defects that lead to things like suicide

what's happened over the past few years is reduceable to cost-benefit analysis.

basically, hurting conservatives feelings is the only downside to being more accepting of transexuality. weighed against the high suicide and incarceration rates of trans people, your feelings mean literally fucking nothing. even if 20% of these people can live more productive lives as a result of culture changing to try not making their lives more difficult, it will have been worth it. the old way has no advantages except in conservatives head.

yes they did, just as to the other gender

that isn't second class, when the purpose of the state's involvement in marriage is childrearing

are men second class because they don't have access to abortion?

>And no, it's that there was no research behind the change, or any of these changes that people generally say the DSM is worthless garbage over
So you're just willfully ignorant, Muhammad? Since that's revisionist history. There was data and research done to gradually prove that homosexuality does not meet the criteria of a mental illness, and it still doesn't. You need to learn how to cope with that.
>they literally do, along with hormones
I'll explain this very easy to prove fact; in the US, you can not give hormone blockers to anyone under the legal age of consent. That depends on the State, but no legal child can request reassignment surgery or hormone blockers as treatment. Furthermore, reassignment is never suggested as primary treatment, by any medical professional in the West. What happens is a consultation on the risks, for trans adults who undergo the choice. Then, since no insurance actually covers it, it costs a shit ton of money, which is a usual deterrent to the surgery.

Maybe you should read up on the things you sperg about so you don't come off like a fucking moronic /pol/nigger?

we'll never know for sure because no society will 100% accept homos just like no society will 100% accept people who eat feces. Heteros are disgusted by homosexual acts, in the same way a homo is disgusted by hetero acts. The difference is, the homos are the minority in a hetero society. If we had societies where homos were the majority and everything was based around their needs and lifestyles we could see how that effected their suicide rates. But such a society wouldn't exist for long unless it had a constant influx of homo immigrants.

THIS IS THE PART WHERE YOU SEETHE

THIS IS THE PART WHERE YOU COPE

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>the only downside
>encouraging mental illness isn't a downside

>basically, hurting conservatives feelings is the only downside to being more accepting of schizophrenia. weighed against the high suicide and incarceration rates of schizophrenic people, your feelings mean literally fucking nothing. even if 20% of these people can live more productive lives as a result of culture changing to try not making their lives more difficult, it will have been worth it. the old way has no advantages except in conservatives head.

it killed the momentum of the joke. stifles creativity when priority#1 = Agenda Pushing

>why should you get access to the same rights under the law in regards to marriage certification?
>you can't like, get pregnant haha so like dude, you can't like, fall in love with a man hahaha you know? yucky poo poo right?
These aren't arguments. They were denied access, the same access as anyone else, to marriage licenses. That's not equal opportunity, that's a literal second class.

are you going to force straight people to date and fuck trannies? At the end of the day, trannys will still be unhappy due to not finding partners, aside from fetishists.

Thanks for the opinion, Ahmed.

it's not medically useful for a diagnostic term to cover that much of the population. the word is a tool: it can be changed to match the population that actually needs support.

comparison: autistics are only 4% of the population, and many of them can actually hold down jobs, just like most of the 15% retards. you are literally arguing against the usual position of conservatives that society is too eager to diagnose problems and surround people in cotton wool.

again why should they have equal opportunity when they aren't equal? the purpose of marriage in the eyes of the state is to procreate to contribute to bodies in a society. Gays can't do this. Love has nothing to do with it.

>NO YOU CAN'T TREAT HOMOSEXUALS AS NORMAL PEOPLE THAT'S NOT BASED AND REDPILLED STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT KEK FAG SEETHE COPE TRANNY DILATE STOP IT

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Marriage isn't about love. Arranged marriages happen all the time. Marriage licenses exist to subsidize reproduction.

which is just another type of "muh slippery slope". Any number of genetic variants can cause mental defects, it's not exclusive to "being homo". Suicide rates as a whole, aren't even dominated in the West by gays.

>encourage more people to go trans
>only SOME of them will massively regret it and kill themselves
It's a win!

Only in the sense that gay brains tend to come with a lack of impulse control. Its well recorded that gay people have higher rates of crime, spontaneous sexual encounters, higher rates of drug usage, and other harmful activities. To disregard all of this so simply state that any other from of impulse control is harmful to gay dudes cause it doesn't get them the help they need.

>There was data and research done to gradually prove that homosexuality does not meet the criteria of a mental illness
no, there was reclassification of mental illness to omit anormative aberrations, nothing new about homosexuality was discovered along what you're saying

>I'll explain this very easy to prove fact; in the US, you can not give hormone blockers to anyone under the legal age of consent. That depends on the State, but no legal child can request reassignment surgery or hormone blockers as treatment. Furthermore, reassignment is never suggested as primary treatment, by any medical professional in the West. What happens is a consultation on the risks, for trans adults who undergo the choice. Then, since no insurance actually covers it, it costs a shit ton of money, which is a usual deterrent to the surgery.
most of this garbage has absolutely nothing to do with my point
>Furthermore, reassignment is never suggested as primary treatment, by any medical professional in the West.
>primary
and?

>Maybe you should read up on the things
maybe you should learn how to read in the first place, it involves more than just seeing words

>"muh slippery slope"
It's real. Calling it a fallacy is a lie. The agenda is always more, more, more.

Where in the Constitution of the United States does it say that you can' only file for a marriage license if you plan to have children? You're being fucking retarded.
>love has nothing to do with getting married
What shithole country do you live in then? Under the eyes of the law, all natural born citizens are to have the same rights and access, that goes for gays and straights and blacks and whites. Denying any number of them, is second class citizenship. Why is this hard? Why do you hate freedom?

True. The only time gender was useful was when it was was on forms , when what they really were asking for was your biological sex.

Now gender supposedly can something abstract and can change on a whim, the solution is to just start asking for the same information but using the term 'biological sex' instead and leave the word 'gender' to die because who gives a shit.

Who's going to waste the time to ask what your gender is when it all it means is what do you feel like today and the answer can be something made up? xim xer, etc?

it was useful to have a sword to use as a synonym but fuck this is why we can't have nice things and into the bin it goes

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I'm not talking about just the United States, I mean since the inception of marriage across the world.

Your nigger shithole can give away all the rights it wants for no reason.

>lower impulse control directly correlates to criminality
>gays commit more crimes because I said so
lol you're baiting me now.

you can't cure transexuality, and you can't make the situation better for them. you're doing nothing more than whining about the fact that transexuality exists.

gradations of unhappiness exist. for example there is the type of unhappiness that leads people to moan about problems which have nothing to do with them in Yea Forums threads.

It’s technically a fallacy, but saying a statement is wrong because its a fallacy is also a fallacy

marriage used to have nothing to do with love
>They were denied access
no they weren't
>That's not equal opportunity, that's a literal second class
it's equal opportunity to the state's prescribed form of marriage which was only legitimate in the first place for the aforementioned reason

are people who want to marry their dogs being denied equal opportunity? what is fundamentally different as to the nonexistance of a purpose for marriage that you now ascribe to it?

>nothing new about homosexuality was discovered because I said so
I mean, we found heavily genetic components for homosexuality and declassified it as a mental illness because it did not in and of itself, prevent people from living complete and normal lives, but sure. You can keep living in autismo land and pretend that your reality happened. Since you dislike facts that hurt your feefees.

>I'm not talking about just the United States
Then I don't care. We do this thing called "pursue happiness" here, Ahmed. People get married for all sorts of reasons. It's not for the government to decide who I can and cannot marry. Don't tread on me, bootlicker.

>it's not medically useful for a diagnostic term to cover that much of the population
What? So if 20% of people didn't have hands, we couldn't classify handless people as crippled? Disabilities exist based on the impairment of the individual, regardless of how many people have them.

>autistics are only 4% of the population, and many of them can actually hold down jobs, just like most of the 15% retards
Yes, retarded people can hold janitor positions. They're still retarded. Having a job doesn't make them not retarded.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/williams-in-the-news/incarceration-rate-of-lesbian-gay-bisexual-people-three-times-the-general-population/

Do you like being spoonfed, or is google actually broken for you?

And yes, lower impulse control tends to lead people do do things that aren't legal.

enjoy your AIDS faggot.

Also, the irony of an amerimutt calling anyone ahmed.

We're talking about the US, where there is no written decree that you can only marry to procreate. We don't live in a Hitler Youth colony, faggot. The purpose of marriage isn't for procreation in the first world, as a primary necessity anymore. Your entire argument is a roundabout.

Not allowing citizens access to the same privilege that is granted to ANY/ALL legal citizens, makes you a second class. It's really that simple.

slippery slope isn't a fallacy unless there is no ascertainable reason for the slope to be slippery. Even still, slippery slope wouldn't apply to that regardless, there is no progression of anything in my assertion.
>it's not exclusive to "being homo"
never claimed it was
>Suicide rates as a whole, aren't even dominated in the West by gays
never claimed they were

it is a fact that homosexuality isn't caused by the environment
it is a fact that homosexuality isn't caused by genetic predisposition or heritability
it is a fact that homosexuals worldwide correlate with other mental abberations, regardless of how inclusive the cultures are

So I think it's reasonable to conclude that these things put together make it likely that something in utero causes the condition. If this is true, then it's not ridiculous to think that other areas of the brain are affected as well (negatively)

>go trans

you mean like deciding to be gay? got it.

the subject has been studied for decades by people smarter and more impartial than you. it's recently been accepted as legit, hence the across the board shift in how the subject is discussed.

Silence of the Lambs was 30 years ago and it has dialogue carefully specifying that Bill isn't trans precisely because the author did his research. its taken that long for culture to finally take the risk of making you uncomfortable.

>it is a fact that homosexuality isn't caused by genetic predisposition or heritability
that's wrong though...
>it is a fact that homosexuals worldwide correlate with other mental abberation
That's your fallacy though. That's not an argument. That's not causation.

>you can't cure it
Of course research into curing it is haram. You don't need to cure a mental condition to make the person's life better and closer to normal. We don't throw our hands up at any number of other mental or physical conditions without cures. HIV is probably the most obvious case of this

>we found heavily genetic components for homosexuality
no they literally haven't you lying piece of shit

To quote you, "I won't spoonfeed you". Imagine being this behind on something that has been talked about in science for over what, 2 decades now?

Science is whatever you want it to be though, clearly. You /pol/types are basically flat earthers.

This but unironcally

intelligence has to be assessed using standard tests. it's a less objective quality than whether someone (lol) "has hands".

someone who can hold a janitor job normally won't need to be institutionalized. it's a medically meaningful difference that has real-world consequences and demands practically applicable definitions.

your whole theory was that the definition of retardation was changed to make society more inclusive but that's completely fallen by the wayside. your mind is a rollercoaster of nonsense.

That's the entire reason to even have marriage. You CAN have gay marriage, hypothetically, just like you can have a chocolate tea pot.

yikes, imagine being this mentally ill.

>where there is no written decree that you can only marry to procreate
because it was obvious until it wasn't. It doesn't remove the fact that the state needs a reason to be involved, let alone intercede into the federal states
>We don't live in a Hitler Youth colony, faggot.
what does this have to do with nazis?
>The purpose of marriage isn't for procreation in the first world, as a primary necessity anymore
and it follows then that the state has no legitimate role in it anymore either
>Not allowing citizens access to the same privilege that is granted to ANY/ALL legal citizens, makes you a second class. It's really that simple.
ok, you still haven't differentiated marrying your dog or a child or polygamy. There is no principle on which to rest marriage now

>I am a retard but unironically
Okay

I will not be angered by things I see on the internet.
I will not be angered by things I see on the internet.
I will not be angered by things I see on the internet.
I will not be angered by things I see on the internet.

I will improve today.
I will improve today.
I will improve today.
I will improve today.

>"research" into "curing" it

the British were trying to "cure" homosexuality with hormones in the 50s. didn't work. real scientists simply moved on.

First rockos modern life tranny now this
Why.... I just wanted to watch cartoons

>he missed the entire point of his own article because he didn't actually read it
oof.

>that's wrong though...
no it isn't, the best they've found is similar genetic markers. They have not found heritability
>That's your fallacy though. That's not an argument. That's not causation.
i didn't attribute causation you fucking brainlet, in fact i explicitly say homosexuality is likely not the cause

And since medical science hasn't improved since the 50s there is no point in trying again.

>There is no principle on which to rest marriage now
two consenting adults filing for a marriage contract under the law. There you go, schizoid.
>it's like marrying your dog ahh!
What are you, some pastor from 1980?

>to quote you, "i won't spoonfeed you"
i never said that
>Imagine being this behind on something that has been talked about in science for over what, 2 decades now?
there is no research showing homosexuality is heritable, you're a liar

I think this is a major problem. Gender identity is retarded to me, but it's not on the level of self-mutilation. I try to see them as distinct, but people who make their gender identity a big deal seem to have some problem or other, regardless of ding-dong chopping.

>it is a fact that homosexuals worldwide correlate with other mental abberations

I think it's fair to assume that posting here is a more statistically significant indicator of mental abberation than gayness.

>in fact i explicitly say homosexuality is likely not the cause
But your entire premise is a bad faith argument to attribute all these mental deficiencies, WITH homosexuals. You're essentially doing a disinfo campaign because you admit, homosexuality is likely not the cause, but that doesn't stop you from clumping it in regardless how it correlates or not.

You're a brainlet.

>it's a medically meaningful difference that has real-world consequences and demands practically applicable definitions.
as does this

The feelings of the article don't matter
"muh disproportionate cause gay" is about the same as "muh disproporotionate because black".
It's disproportionate because they commit more crime, its just the fact of the matter. Do you actually believe that they are in jail because they're gay?

There is no research that proves it's either a mental illness or a choice. There is a heavy genetic component in literally all sexual preferences.

Why did you quote yourself?

imagine being this stupid

how long have people been trying to "cure" cancer? should we stop?

Do you believe that their gayness makes them more likely to be criminals? Because that's essentially not an argument either. You didn't even read your own fucking article.

>two consenting adults filing for a marriage contract under the law
that isn't a principle, thats a just a statement. what rationale does the state have to interject into marriage?
>its like marrying your dog
again, it's not the same thing, but there is no legal distinction you have made that separates it

>It's disproportionate because they commit more crime
so you honestly believe that "they commit more crimes because they are gay"?

>that isn't a principle
lol it literally is now in the US. What even is your gripe now? In a free society, why are you hellbent on preventing legal adults/citizens from marrying each other? How does someone else, bother you?

>a bunch of Ahmeds and /pol/teens get mad at gay marriage for the umpteenth time while evading crossposting bans

t.retard

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given that homosexuality is almost definitely neurodevelopmental, and no one's preventing people from studying the neurology of sexuality, knock yourself out.

that isn't what "scientists" claiming to want to cure homosexuality were doing, though. those guys were charging parents to intensely read the bible at their gay children. shit was fucked up.

No, my entire argument is that being gay coincides to impulse control issues, and impulse control issues can lead to self destructive and outwardly destructive behavior. I read the article, I took the numbers of it, and used some actual thought behind it. No one is in jail for being gay, being gay isn't a crime. At least not in countries that matter. I'm not arguing against gayness. I want them to help which they desperately need.

>intelligence has to be assessed using standard tests. it's a less objective quality
Okay sure, but we can still take slices of the population and assess their cognitive capabilities. If we take a set of people with 85 IQ and find they have a hard time understanding something like a bus schedule, it seems useful to classify them as mildly retarded.

>it's a medically meaningful difference
Retardation is classified in degrees.
"IQ levels between 50–55 to approximately 70 characterize mild mental retardation, 35—40 to 50–55 characterize moderate mental retardation, 20–25 to 35–40 characterize severe mental retardation, and IQ levels below 20–25 characterize profound mental retardation."
85 IQ people aren't literal drooling retards, but they're still measurably cognitively impaired and fit on this scale. Their removal was not due to an increase of the abilities of 71-85 IQ people, it was purely political.

See my previous post
If you have a better theory as to the situation at hand I would love to hear it.