There are three levels of analysis here

damn k was a retard

Yeah he was white after all.

you said it brother

To be fair, sometimes when you're lonely enough you will project your love on to something that obviously can't love you back

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This is a bit different because Joi was an advanced AI so in theory there was nothing wrong with getting attached to her.

Thats way too much thought put into a stylized cash grab that was boring as fuck and cut into based Harrison Ford's free time.

its a dishonest film alright

K is a more advanced machine than Joi, that's it

Replicants are not machines, they are synthetically created humans. If you cut them open they will bleed and have guts. The only difference between a Replicant and a human is that a Replicant was created in a laboratory somewhere.

The script also outlines that K had hoped that Joi's memories were part of a bigger network of sorts, wishing that the one in the ad would show signs of it. So arguably, he was larping while in denial, but he didn't think far enough to assume that the "Joe" nickname was used by all Joi models.

>and in the devastating scene in the rain he realizes she was only doing what her entire line of products was programmed to do
She became more than that, the gut punch was realising that even if he bought another one he wouldn't be able to get her back.

Well, considering how customizable they are, at that point I would make a completely different Joi. But he kind of wasn't in a position to buy another Joi since he was on the run, and he knew he had nothing else to lose so he resigned himself to save Deckard knowing he'd probably die in the process.

If the replicant's mind is the result of human programming then, yes, they are machines. And since they pop out of the sack fully capable of speech, thats probably the case.

Is that right?

What if space demons build machines with flesh and blood instead of steel and oil. What if that's just how their technology works.

You can view that scene like when you drive by the diner you and your ex always went to and seeing her with someone else there and she's doing that thing with her hair that she did on your first date with her there, looking at the guy like she looked at you.

Or you can view it as K realizing that his Joi was entirely special and irreplaceable, how through all their interactions and K's genuine "I'm special" beliefs (which he doesn't have anymore) his Joi became special and unique to him specifically, seeing that entire scene as a mirror of Deckard meeting the fake Rachael, which is most evident by the completely black eyes of the giant Joi, where K could've easily had the same exact "I know what's real" line like Deckard did with the fake Rachael there.

You choose

Space demons probably have another word for it, like [unintelligible screeching].

If you actually read the script, you would notice that his Joi calls him "Jo", while the giant ad Joi calls him "A good Joe".
A world of difference right there

Whether or not how "real" Joi was is irrelevant because no matter what it makes K understand that his life is what he makes of it and he's his own person. His Joi was real to him because he he wanted her to be and he understands that in a similar way he can make his life still have meaning.

She names him after the girl from Little Women? The only one that dies? And then HE dies?

What the fuck is wrong with Joi?

As in Jo from little women?

I hate this fucking "are robots people too?" bullshit that every sci-fi movie does, it's the most retarded question imaginable.

This scene is K accepting that he's not special and Joi was just an AI, yes, but he's not fucking pondering if their love was real because he's not THAT retarded. He's just coming to terms with the cold reality of being alone and unimportant, that's it.

This. He was knowingly larping but the key part is he wanted to go back to that after having his hopes dashed away. When he realized that he truly lost his "joy" and there was nothing to go back to, that's when he decided to save Deckard.

I think most people are missing the fact that the script outlines that K wanted to go back to the life he had with Joi at that point in the film and it's only the realization that he has nothing left that he even decides to help Deckard.

Surely he knew by then that even if he didn't help Deckard he was kind of fucked, he'd never be able to pass another baseline test and they wanted him dead anyway.

He was pretty much losing his reason at that point. According to the script, he literally looked at the Joi ad expecting his Joi's memories to seep through it but to no avail.

*his sense of reason

>expecting
You keep inserting these words that are not there. He didn’t "expect" that, it's just stated that he doesn’t see anything like that in the ad, alluding to the fact that the ad Joi is not the same as his Joi.

Good movie
TV always memes the shit I like

>it's just stated that he doesn’t see anything like that in the ad
And you keep ignoring the fact that the script blatantly outlines that he's wishing her personality would pop through the ad but he only realizes otherwise when it obviously doesn't happen.

Well yes ofcourse he'd like for his Joi to pop out instead, but wishing is very different from "expecting" such a thing to happen.
K is not retarded.

That's what I meant. Poor choice of words, I wasn't meaning to imply that he was literally expecting her to come out, rather he desperately wished she wasn't gone.

While the script is certainly insightful a lot of things are changed from script to film so it's kind of silly to act like the script is gospel when it comes to interpreting K's thoughts.

I recognize that the script isn't gospel, but in that particular case the script's description was the subject being discussed in the first place.

Dishonest McDonald's arthouse flick. The last Jedi was the best flick that year.

@119341074
2/10 low effort bait

>McDonald's
Nobody eats that /pol/tarded crap here. Burger King is the only one that aligns with our values.

>Burger King
A5 Wagyu only for me.