Anarcho-primitivism doesn't wo-

Imagine plowing a field wearing that. I can barely keep my short pants on in the summer.

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>gets invaded by Orcs

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you would be about 50x more likely to die from diseases or medical procedures than you are now

nary a negro in sight

Pic unrelated.

I wish we could keep the positives of modern living and do away with the negatives. Glorifying the past is dangerous, but life seems so trivial now.

Thats why you need a nationstate that protects the borders and allow the population as much freedom as possible. But since women are allowed to vote they will vote for state tyrrany because they are attracted to power and dominance.

>more likely to die from diseases
How is it any different from the cancers caused by wifi radiation, poisonous food, stress, and pollution of today.
Would rather die at 40 in a natural state than live to 70 zombified by drugs

>implying i dont want to die

Even better, user. The dying at 40 thing is a misconception because infant mortality was high enough to drive the average lifespan down. Really the biggest hurdle was just making sure you lived for the first year.

>How is it any different from the cancers caused by wifi radiation, poisonous food, stress, and pollution of today.
What the fuck do you mean? The average person today is much more likely to live a full life then they were say in the 1600s for example. You are less likely to die from disease and infant mortality is the lowest its ever been. I get why people glorify the past but health standards certainly shouldn't be one of them. We are doing better now in every respect.

>Would rather die at 40 in a natural state
There's nothing "natural" about dying at 40.

>Would rather die at 40 in a natural state than live to 70 zombified by drugs
then you are afflicted by the modern scourge known as retardation

What do you think life used to be? You worked in a field until you died, or maybe you became a priest and studied the bible your whole life. Don't glamorize the past.

Its so comfy boys. Why did Jackson have to fuck up the hobbit films so bad?

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And yet the modern world is a rapidly decaying, immoral and anti-human cesspool controlled by the most outwardly evil ruling class in all of history.

>the past was only feudalism
I also already said glorifying it was dangerous. Stop acting like a smug faggot

shire was neither anarchist nor primitivist.

Infant mortality and in general the low likelihood of even making it to your 20th bday shouldn't be understated.

200 years ago like 1/5 babies would die during birth or shortly after, another 1/5 would die from some preventable disease, statistically another 1/5 would die from starvation or disease, and you're left with 1 or 2 kids out of the five. Repeat that times across the country, lowering the odds for survival even more in places like Africa and the Middle East, and you can see why there were so few people and the world was generally a much harder place to live.

No one said the modern world doesn't have its own problems but its objectively better from a health and quality of life standpoint then the past ever was. You take the modern luxuries and conveniences of life for granted. People in the past lived hard, grueling lives that came with an untold amount of misery in a number of respects. There are elements of the past that I think are very respectable but to want to live back then? It's foolish.

yea before that you would have been a... farmer

the hobbits weren't anarchic nor primitive

>the past is only feudalism and everything before it
>everyone was a farmer
>being a farmer was a bad thing

I guess you're going to volunteer nothing yourself and vaguely snipe at me

Being a farmer in the ancient world isn't what I'd exactly call a pleasant life. You were at the mercy of the weather as one bad harvest could mean your entire family starving to death. Not an ideal way to live wouldn't you say?

Your wife would die in childbirth. You'd lose your son to some dumbass war because of some feud between kings. You'd die at 35 from tuberculosis because the dumbass doctors thought you only had to balance your bodily humours to get better. At least you grew some turnips I guess.

Why was he so surly?

It was inevitable since he was basically told to extend a children's bedtime story into a trilogy.

It feels like the only periods in the past that exist in people’s Minds are ancient or feudal agrarian societies.
Antebellum America would be my go to.

anyone remember a copypasta about smeagol

>being an anprim
GUYS IM SMASHING MY GLASSES TO OWN THE LIBS

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Trips for truth.
Also, medical retardation did a lot to ensure that people died all the time for no reason.
>Durr hygeine is bad
>Hurr bleeding for nearly every affliction
You would be better off doing literally nothing rather than calling a "doctor."

they have a Mayor you dumblet

after the war Peregrim took that title

called The Thain he is basically a warchief lol

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Anarchist egoism as a personal philosophy is the patrician choice

no u dont get it broe i want to go back to times where surviving was a struggle so every day had inherent meaning but with current technology and infrastructure and commerce that trivializes the struggle to a much smaller risk

Outside pressures and not enough time to make it good. He was as much a victim as the rest of us.

That wasn’t ALWAYS the case. Some “bonesaws” knew how to set bones and such. It was mostly in matters of disease and infection that they were far behind.

>Antebellum America
I think being a rich lander in the South during that period might be cool but 90% of the population was still dirt poor rural farmers. The conditions certainly wouldn't be as brutal as the ancient world but it still wouldn't be a pleasant life in my opinion. You have to deal with disease, infant mortality, and a host of other problems that came with that period like brutal conditions in factory jobs. Personally I think it'd be cool to be an aristocrat in late 1800s Austria but I still wouldn't be wish to be born in that period. Maybe spend like a week there.

Come to think of it, he _never_ did explain the shire's tax policy.
Did they even have a mayor or something?

It would be cool to be a nomad in the steppes.
Maybe once in a while you and your bros could raid sedentary people.

Despite that, suicide rates are virtually non-existent in small, primitive agricultural societies compared to the glittering modern metropolises of the world. There is definitely a stronger sense of belonging to be found in smaller communities and despite the numerous drawbacks already listed a simpler life may very well be a more fulfilling one. All depends on your perspective.

you can't be corrupted by power
it only amplifies your flaws
it's all about nurture and environment

>brutal conditions in factory jobs
>90% of the population was farmers
Huh?

>the most outwardly evil ruling class in all of history

Rich people have always been evil.

He was starring a shitty movie?

Correlation or causation? Is the primitive nature of these societies what minimizes the suicide rate, or something else? Is it possible to foster a sense of community in a modern metropolis without reverting to a primitive state? Are there modern metropolises with much lower suicide rates than others?

>it's just your perspective bro
>who cares that your wife can die at childbirth and most of your children won't make it past 5
>who cares that a simple bite from an animal or an injury might result in you having to cut your hand off due to infection

The Shire has a temperate maritime climate, very mild weather all year round, with temperatures rarely higher than 20°C.

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The user I replied to did not mention the Antebellum South specially he said Antebellum America. I specified the South but I attempted to also address issues that came from that period in general such as the brutal working conditions. The North was much more modernized and had tons more factory jobs compared to the south

Genuine question, how did people even function when simple knife wounds could cause life threatening infections? Wouldn’t that mean quite literally no one would survive battles after the infections began?

what the fuck is 20°C?

That makes more sense, but factory working got more strict in the gilded age, no? Pretty sure factory workers were paid a bit more fairly at least during that time.

Surely, but they've never had access to so many proles' minds via mass media and the internet before.

Consider that all of your slaves are niggers, though. You are literally surrounded by niggers all day, and you know that your entire livelihood relies on niggers working (lol) and not raping your women (lol).
Not racist, btw. Just thinking about it rationally.

>The historian Laurence Stone calculated that homicide levels in medieval England were at least 10 times what they are today. Certainly, we cannot doubt that it was a dangerous time in which to live. An exceptional case, even by medieval standards, is provided by 14th‑century Oxford. Levels of violence there were considered unacceptably high by contemporaries: in the 1340s, the homicide rate was around 110 per 100,000. (In the UK in 2011, it was 1 per 100,000.)
LOVELY

That's true. First aid medicine has always been wayyyy ahead of disease treatment.
Even the romans knew about some of that shit, and people lived through grevious injuries, should you make it through the infection stage.

Not every wound would cause such infections. The chances however would be much higher you'd catch one. And efficient treatment would be near impossible.

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True story: The first injury is the one that determines if you live or die, often. If you can handle an injury because you have a tough injury, you can thrive as a gladiator or a mercanary. Most recruits died early on, and the ones that made it got all the juicy XP.

>but factory working got more strict in the gilded age, no?
Sweatshops were around as early as the 1830s but you are correct in that the conditions got generally worse later into the 19th century as labor grew to meet the needs of industrialized society. However, factories still weren't pleasant places to work even at that time due to complete lack of labor laws which resulted in brutally long work days

>Pretty sure factory workers were paid a bit more fairly at least during that time.
I couldn't say for sure one way or the other but the jobs certainly paid more than rural farmers which isn't saying too much. I think skilled trades was probably the most coveted job of the period.

I wouldn’t be a slaveowner. Statistically it wouldn’t be likely. And even if I had a choice I’d rather not have that on my conscience and be a pussy who makes others do his work for him

>England
Well there's your problem right there. It has been an overcrowded shithole with an oppressive government and rampant crime since the dawn of time.

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Curious why you would pick that specific time, then.
That was during the ascent of industrialism, and well before air conditioning and hygiene. Seems like the worst of both worlds.

it was a joke

Because I don’t want to be a british cuck or live during wartime.

as opposed to 50x more likely to die from cancer or getting shot

France under Louise XIV was actually prettty based, if you look into it. Truly the high point of European (and by extension, world) civilization, and it has only gone down hill since.

I'd be content having been born in the 1950s, they had it all.

>anarcho capitalism doesn't wo-

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They were literally regularly eaten by wolves and only kept kind of safe by a semi-secret band of nomadic edgelords

You mean exactly as likely to die from diseases or medical procedures as now.

All we've done is extended peoples lifespans so that they're tortured to a slow and painful death over decades rather than something quick.

too bad saurumon shows up and industrializes the shit out of it

They aren't human and they're being shepherded by the Rangers and the kingdom of Arnor before that out of sheer good will

Could have sworn this one said "Whites Only".

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But I was mistaken, so have this to go with it.

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>be shit poor farmer
>work your ass off everyday in the field
>die by 35
this is how 99.99% pre industrial people live youre not gonna be a lord or a knight

that perfect use of music and dialogue. i can't remember what happened to my extended edition DvD collection but I miss it all the time. god damn.

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> implying it works

nigga they got their fucking hairy manlet asses handed to them by some fucking bitch ass defeated wizard at the end of the books

race of man best race fuck off hobbit niggers gondor is full

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There's something always comforting and nostalgic about this scene

even though i've never fucking lived in a fucking green rural area

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They weren't anarcho primitivist, they had agriculture, laws, property ownership, government, a mail system, immigration control, technology like mills, and a functioning economy.

you just implied that it only works in fiction

huh, i'm in that scene. One of the hobbit kids.

He didn't.
The execs wanted him to do another LotR with less money, 1/5 of the time and distorting a small book into a trilogy.

Too lazy to @everyone in the thread but ya'll should look into the modernhistorytv youtube channel.

It does away with dumb misconceptions about the "dark ages" and the medieval period as a whole. It was actually kinda comfy if your lord wasn't a dick.