What the fuck does the ring do? make you invisible? fucking whoop de doo is that supposed to be enough to motivate satan to destroy the world?
What the fuck does the ring do? make you invisible...
It has the power to influence everyone to abide to Sauron, especially the lords and kings of Middle-earth.
Can a normal person wield the power of the ring or just turn invisible like a dummy?
It makes you better at what you can already do.
Hobbits are good at hiding so it makes them invisible. Anyone with actual power becomes godtier. That's why Sauron wants it back.
great so now i can literally beat my dick off
Why didn't Gandalf wear it when he turned super saiyan and dab on everybody instantly?
You gain the ability to see things in people that you don’t normally see. It also makes just makes you better and everything you can already do. You also live longer, and the Ring has a way of controlling the fate that surrounds it somewhat which is a double edged sword
He could still be corrupted. The only person who canonically was stated could resist the ring was Ol' Tom.
A normal person wielding the ring turns you invisible but if you're powerful as fuck (Gandalf for example) you'd get a massive fucking power boost to godlike levels although at the cost of your sanity and morality like he says.
He'd be making a bigger monster since the ring would corrupt him.
and galadriel and boromir and sam and
he could've done it realy quickly. you don't die of radiation if it's just a bit.
Because the ring is ultimately designed to dominate the wills of people that aren't sauron.
Putting it on and actually using the damn thing is a very bad idea.
Because he would not be able to resist The Ring and it would corrupt and destroy him.
isildur had it for at most a few minutes and was already corrupted, boromir wasn't even in physical contact with the thing and was already losing himself. The ring simply doesn't work that way. Gandalf was already feeling temptation simply by looking at it, if he touched it with his bare hands he'd be gone.
>and galadriel
she literally started saying ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR before it came off, were you taking a pissbreak during that part
Actually im pretty sure Sauron is the only one able to actually USE the power.
>the one ring is powerful because... it's powerful
How does a nazgul have stronger magic than Gandalf?
Forgot image.
Literally nobody could do it. Not even fucking frodo did it, God had to literally push him in the soup.
>it makes you invisible
So sick of this misconception.
The ring doesnt make you "invisible", it heightens your connection to the ""spirit"" (not sure what the correct term for lotr lore would be) world.
For magical and powerful beings like Sauron, Gandalf, and Galadriel this heightens their magic powers greatly.
For a completely unmagical being like a hobbit or human, this simply allows them to see the spirit realm they were previously unaware of forcing their body to exist between both worlds while wearing it.
This is why the wraiths and Sauron could detect Frodo when he wore it, as well as why the spirits in the water of the bog were so drawn to Frodo and able to lure him in with greater strength than they did someone like Sam.
Nice headcanon faggot
Ol’ Tom and Samwise were the best
This is wrong, Isildur used it to become invisible too. The ring shifts you partially into the spirit world, hence the invisibility for mortals and why Frodo can see the Ringwraiths when he puts it on on Weathertop.
In terms of who can wield it to its full potential, Tolkien explains that the only one who could possibly master it is Gandalf, as another Maia.
I'd call it the ghost realm but not the dead guy realm.
This is probably one of the worst changes from the book, book version of Gandalf has a stand-off with the Witch-King but neither gets the upper hand. Then Rohan arrives.
Gandalf follows the rule of Eru Ilúvatar (god of Lotr universe). so his powers were hugely limited while he was in Middile earth. If restrictions came off he would come close to Sauron in terms of power
So if I put it on, I would be insanely good at being a NEET shitposting all day
What are the best things to read/watch to get some deep lotr lore?
Sauron and the Nazgul could detect anyone with the ring because that's the whole point of the ring- it's connected to the Nazgul's rings and Sauron.
How much of the lore that Peter Jackson added to The Hobbit films, was accurate, like with Saruman, Radaghast, the Necromancer, etc.
Just read the Silmarillion. All of the poems in the LotR make a lot more sense and actually have relevant meaning to what's going on at the time if you read the Silmarillion. And if you're a glutton for the dullest shit in the world, then read the Histories of Middle-Earth, which are basically the notes of JRRT compiled by his son and then sold at ludicrous prices.
The parts with legolas doing parkour were pretty accurate, honestly.
Not true at all and you know it. The Wraith was right fucking over Frodo and it had no idea he was there (while they hid under the tree root). And Sauron litteraly had no idea the ring was captured and right in the middle of Mordor.
The only time they have a direct connection was when it was worn. Connecting the wearer to the (ghost realm it is then?) Which the Wraiths and Sauron are directly connected to due to their magical nature.
>the ring has a mind of its own
What was its tax policy?
Sauron gets the most power out of the ring, but if I remember correctly Tolkien said that Gandalf with the ring could beat Sauron without the ring. The only issue is that Gandalf would just become the new Sauron at that point.
Kill them and take their stuff
100% of every person's things, including their mind goes to Sauron
Obviously they invented a ton of garbage. I could get on board with an adaptation of The Hobbit that relied faithfully on JRRT’s later works for the added material. But, to the limited extent that the added material was accurately shown, PJ defeated the purpose by mixing it together with lots of invented material.
but then she resisted the urge and refused to accept it from frodo despite still being in its presence and almost certainly being capable of taking it if frodo changed his mind after her display. boromir has a stronger moment of weakness, it only dissipates after frodo runs away and the ring is no longer near him that he begins to see clearly again.
i don't recall sam having a moment of weakness, and tom is on some other level entirely.
This was my gripe with lotr. The idea that a stupid ring that makes you invisible somehow implies you rule the world was stupid
why did gollum get away with the ring for so long?
Your gripe with lotr is that you're a fucking mongoloid.
seems trustworthy but what is it's immigration policies?
low effort bait
Radagast wasn't in the Hobbit. Gandalf talks about him at the Council of Elrond in FotR, and that's the most we see of him. While it would be fair to describe him as the most nature-loving wizard (it was said that he could converse with every animal in Middle-Earth), the bunny-drawn sled was Jackson's invention.
I haven't really watched parts 2 or 3, but as far as the Necromancer goes, they (the White Council, made of Galadriel, Elrond, Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman, Cirdan the Shipwright, and a few others I believe) had known that the Necromancer in Dol Guldur was Sauron for about a century. Most of the council wanted to drive him out immediately, but Saruman spoke against it. He had already made up his mind to seize the One Ring for himself and make himself the new Lord of the Ring. They only decided to attack when Saruman learned that Sauron's forces were searching the place where Isildur died and Saruman couldn't risk Sauron actually finding the Ring. So they worked together and drove him out, though they weren't able to destroy the stronghold while Sauron was still a force in Middle-Earth.
But none of that stuff was in the Hobbit. You only find those bits and pieces out when you read the Council of Elrond, the Appendices for LotR and the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was a pretty basic story with no real deep lore to speak of. But Tolkien was the king of Retconning, so he made it work when he wrote LotR later on.
The ring couldn't tempt Sam because it could not understand that all Sam wanted was a comfy life and a happy family.
Cause the ring was just chilling in his pocket waiting for Sauron to come collect it. Once it felt the time was right it'd find a way to hightail it out of there, which it did by landing down on some path goblins would've passed and seen it after gollum dropped it, and they would have brought it to Sauron. Bilbo picking it up was a twist of fate
in shadow of war it lets you teleport, be invisible, mind control everyone, freeze ppl, set them on fire and clone urself and some other shit i dont remember the game was lit tho
The ring makes you more powerful in whatever way/s you need to be at that time. There are examples of the ring giving the user extremely enhanced vision as well as being able to understand language they don't know themselves.
The reason Frodo and Bilbo turn invisible is because it makes them manifest themselves on the spiritual plain instead. If somebody like an elf or Gandalf wore the ring they wouldn't turn invisible because they already exist on both plains simultaneously.
You retarded faggots really need to stop with this "durr it just turns you invisible" or "hurr hobbits turn invisible because the ring makes your strengths even stronger and they're sneaky little guys". I don't understand how people are so retarded.
Tolkien only rewrote Riddles in the Dark to make it consistent with Lord of the Rings. The Hobbit has very little lore behind it because it's so focused on the journey and of one particular dwarven colony.
>check the wiki summary
>shelob's a good guy
the fuck?
also that's a ring of power, not the One Ring
I thought it was part of Sauron's spirit and magic.
Lord Denathor was deceived into thinking it would help gondor because he was secretly using the lost seeing stones - same as Saruman.
Am I getting this wrong? The books were reasonably clear.
To plebs it lets you slip into the spirit world and become invisible.
To powerful beings it boosts their power up insane levels and makes them way stronger, to the point Gandalf with the ring would beat ringless Sauron, who was the strongest of the Maia.
To Sauron it gives him Dominion over all life on middle Earth and serves as a sort of conduit loop for his power, whereas Melkor put his magic into the world and lost it when he did great feats such as raising mountains, Sauron would never lose any of his power to the world as he would be drawing from and putting his power into the ring to do shit
>Gandalf with the ring would beat ringless Sauron,
I don't think it would be that simple
The series is an utter abomination of the lore. God what I would pay to see Tolkien's son play through it.
if you thought Star Wars was butchered, you couldn't even imagine the shit in those trash games.
>Female ring wraiths
>Isildur was one of the ring wraiths
>Main character kills him and becomes one of the wraiths
>Shelob was a good guy who can shapeshift into Stoya and just wanted to defeat Sauron the whole time
>Celibrimbor possesses a dead man and turns him into a superhuman with ghost powers
>Literally forges the TWO ring, which is just as powerful as the one ring
>You literally fight and defeat Sauron
>Celibrimbor actually merged with Sauron before the events of the war of the ring and was constantly fighting him in the eye of Sauron
>Sauron had a physical form when Isildur was "killed"
Only Tom Bombadil was able to bear the Ring and feel no effect.
It took Bilbo half a century to give it up, and that was only at the urging of his oldest and most trusted friend.
Gandalf begged Frodo to hide it away and keep it that way. Gandalf had to choose to resist the Ring.
Galadriel wanted the Ring for herself and had to refuse it when it was presented to her. She knew that the Ring would corrupt her and eventually consume everything she loves most. But she never actually possessed the Ring for any time, and once she rejected it she earned the right to return to Valinor.
Boromir tried to take the ring by force (not counting the moment in the movie when he hands the Ring back to Frodo when they're trying to cross the mountains). But even he never possessed the Ring.
Sam possessed the Ring for just a little while and it stayed in his mind until he departed for the Undying Lands.
There are only 2 people who ever actually possessed the Ring and were able to give it up without much of a struggle. Sam had his internal struggle, saw through the Ring's lies and gave it back to Frodo when Frodo demanded it from him. Even though he defeated his desire to possess it, it still hurt him enough to keep him restless in Middle Earth for the remainder of his life. Tom Bombadil was the only being to actually possess the Ring and give it back without suffering any ill effects at all. Everybody else felt like something was missing from their lives and they had to leave everything they knew behind when the fighting was finished.
Gandalf literally states so pretty confidently, but says he'd be even worse than Sauron, who wants complete domination over all, because he'd go around killing people he thought was unjust and would force them to live under his rule, so he denies Frodo when he offers it
Why didn't they just make a better ring to stop sauron?
bullshit. in his prim with the one ring all he ever had was super strength and a bod
>he'd be even worse than Sauron, who wants complete domination over all, because he'd go around killing people he thought was unjust
objectively not worse than sauron
Play shadows of shit.
Eh Tolkien says in his letters that Gandalf is one of the few beings that might be able to turn the ring against Sauron, but also says the ring could refuse to do anything to Sauron since it's true allegiance is to him
>Confrontation of Sauron alone, unaided, self to self was not contemplated. One can imagine the scene in which Gandalf, say, was placed in such a position. It would be a delicate balance. On one side the true allegiance of the Ring to Sauron; on the other superior strength because Sauron was not actually in possession, and perhaps also because he was weakened by long corruption and expenditure of will in dominating inferiors. If Gandalf proved the victor, the result would have been for Sauron the same as the destruction of the Ring; for him it would have been destroyed, taken from him for ever.
Why didn't the eagles wear the ring to mount doom?
Would they implode of proudness if they wear the ring?
The elves immediately took off the rings the moment they realized they had been betrayed and thus, weren't corrupted. They were his main opposition and it can't be overstated how overpowered even regular elves could be. An elf literally almost killed Morgoth in single combat and terribly wounded him.
is it better to be a monster and know it completely, or to be a monster and believe yourself to be righteous?
This, it's the plot.
Depends on what his view of justice is with the ring, more than 99% of people would probably be unjust and evil in his corrupted view of the world, so he'd genocide most living beings, while Sauron will just enslave and dominate
But when he went to the Blacked Gate and asked Mr. Frodo to share his load, he wasn’t thinking about no Rosie.
It has a black guy in it, though.
>The series is an utter abomination of the lore.
Fun game tho, but since Tolkien hated the hippies who loves his books, I bet he would hate the game too lel
I think you mean immune, hobbits could resist it pretty well.
Whoever brought back Gandalf to life, why didn't he stop sauron from making the ring if he stopped Gandalf from dying and made him op af? Why meddle then but not before?
Just don't even play those missions, you get nothing from them other than watching a petite gondorian wannabe warrior princess get BLACKED
Cause the last time a Valar interfered with anything one of them was cast out of heaven and became Satan, so they just send the wizards hoping they beat Sauron
That sounds like a great reason to play them though
That's because unbeknownst to most. Smeagle is actually the true hero of the tale. Not Frodo and not Sam like many claim.
The Lord of The Rings is at its core the tale of a River Folk named Smeagle, who found (stole) the ring, was corrupted and tortured by it, then freed from its evil for 50 years when it was taken by Bilbo, and then went on an epic journey (he litteraly traveled all the way back from mordor) to find the ring before Saurons forces and then brought it all the fucking way back to Mordor to destroy it.
Smeagle was not only necessary for the success of the Fellowship but he was litteraly the only one who could have made it all work. Only he knew the way through the bogs. He was one of very few that knew of the secret stair. He masterfully smuggled the ring (or so he thought anyway) right into Mordor via Shelob. And at the end of it all when Frodo failed, Smeagle was the only one with the will to sacrifice not only the ring but also himself into the fire to destroy it.
And yes Smeagles actions were very much justified when he was genuinely betrayed by Frodo and Sam to Faramir. Never forget Smeagle CHOSE to same Frodo, not the ring, from the bog ghosts before thay happened. He was betrayed and fearful the ring would fall in the hands of men and did what he needed to do to see it destroyed.
Gandalf is a literal angel.
It doesn't necessarily matter.
Eh - you would have to go pretty far for justice to be worse than Sauron. It's definitely flawed logic to say that Gandalf with the ring would be per se better than Sauron with the ring because Gandalf wants to be a good person and Sauron doesn't. I see the point, but it doesn't really make sense.
Alright then, I'll check it out
>And at the end of it all when Frodo failed, Smeagle was the only one with the will to sacrifice not only the ring but also himself into the fire to destroy it
He didn't though, Eru Iluvitar interfered and nudged Gollum off the edge. Frodo and mortal men failed at the very last step, but God felt they did well enough so he gave them a freebie
>That's very sweet of you to say, old friend.
he's literally not
Melkor is a literal angel. Sauron and Gandalf are Maia - They don't really have a Christian equivalent. Maybe something like Hercules - who was half god half human, would be an analogue. They are just superpower beings place on middle earth by god for the lulz.
sauce?
Sorry, forgot to mention HACKson's JK Rowling style "did you know Gandalf was GAY?!?" Revisions dont count here.
In TLoYR there is no Eru. It was not some bullshit "lol it was actually all Fayed by a god all along" explanation. It was just character doing them. And sorry not sorry if I find the idea of Gollum supposedly jumping on and fighting Frodo for the ring would have ended in Gollum jumping off safely if a fucking GOD didnt "lawl whoops" his invisible leg out to trip him in the lava, to be absolutely horeshit and as previously stated, JK Rowling tier afterthought garbage.
If I'm not good in anything then what? it's just jewelry for me?
From letter 192
>Frodo deserved all honour because he spent every drop of his power of will and body, and that was just sufficient to bring him to the destined point, and no further. Few others, possibly no others of his time, would have got so far. The Other Power then took over: the Writer of the Story (by which I do not mean myself), 'that one ever-present Person who is never absent and never named
Maiar are lesser angels, Valar are archangles.
>Not recognizing the heavy religious influence throughout the books
Absolute brainlet. And it was never a revision, it was Tolkien explaining what happened in that scene and why Gollum tripped
That doesn't make sense as an analogue unless Maia live in heaven, which they don't.
When Tolkien said that God caused Gollum to fall, you have to understand Catholicism to make sense of that. If you're not a Catholic or Orthodox Christian then you'll have a struggle figuring out anything to do with Eru Illuvatar.
Explaining. After the fact. With absolutely no in book clue that that was the case.
And dont forget friend. Dumbledore really was gay all along :^)
Yeah no. Religious tones or not. That does not make everything Gods will. In fact Christian overtones much more heavily imply free will and choice of action. And when compared to the sacrifice of Jesus, indicate that it was a necessary self-sacrifice made on Smeagles part to save everyone else. His life to save their souls quite litteraly.
No where in the bible does it say God told the Jews about Jesus and came down and nailed Jesus to the cross himself.
I'm not sure what comes with the power of the ring if you are someone who can truly use it, but there's a lot of talk of Sauron's attempts to "dominate" the life on Arda. Would command over the One Ring come with command over the Nazgul? For instance, if Galadriel had become a bright queen "beautiful and terrible as the dawn", would the ringwraiths have betrayed Sauron for a new master?
>unless Maia live in heaven, which they don't
Except they do user, you don't think the four wizards and Sauron and the Balrog were all born on Middle Earth? They're angels who descended to middle Earth, Sauron with Melkor way back in the first age, Gandalf and friends later to combat Sauron on behalf of the Valar
Oh I understand all right. The problem is it is not in the book and therefore not cannon. And even if we do take the drastic change to the story. That it ultimately was not the free will and effort and sacrifice of many that saved Middle Earth but just Gods deciding "yeah okay you had your fun Sauron time to stop", that doesnt change the fact that Smeagle was af the core of it all anyway.
>That does not make everything Gods will
The entirety of Middle Earth's existence is a song sung by the Valar which Eru Iluvitar composed. Read the Silmarillion before you start talking about things you don't understand.
It makes women not whores.
>That it ultimately was not the free will and effort and sacrifice of many that saved Middle Earth but just Gods deciding "yeah okay you had your fun Sauron time to stop"
That's literally what happened, Frodo's will brought him to the very edge of destroying the ring, but failed and so Eru aided him for getting so far in the first place since no one else could have
sauce needed on this pasta
The Silmarillion, a publication done AFTER TLoTR. It is a hack tier retcon and should not be considered cannon in the same vein that I do not in any way beleive Dumbledore was gay all along.
>user thinks he knows better than Tolkien what is or isn't Canon
You don't even understand what a retcon is if you call the Silmarillion a retcon, which just proves you've never read the thing
No on else except Smeagle who shouldered the burden for several hundred years longer than Frodo, endured hours of torture to keep the ring out of Sauroms hands, traveled no less than tripple the distance Frodo did on his quest to find and destroy the ring, and was ultimately the one who was given the aid and help of Eru to finally destroy the ring.
once again, this is bullshit. Read the books.
>dude just take one hit of heroin
>you can’t get addicted off one hit lmao
the ring represents combined arms, poison gas, machine guns, modern artillery, barbed wire, tanks etc....all the stuff that wiped out all of Tolkien's friends at the Somme.
Sauron poured all his energy into the ring and since he'd already had his physical body destroyed it was basically his entire being. And Sauron is really powerful and no one in Middle Earth at the time had any chance against him. But Sauron without the ring is just a big eye doing fuck all.
Smeagle didn't resist the ring, he was corrupted by it the moment he laid eyes on the thing, he failed and Eru didn't help him in the slightest. He was important in the fate of the ring yes, Gandalf tells Frodo as much in Moria, but his fate was to help Frodo to the crack of Doom, because Frodo was the one who bared the burden of the ring to Mordor
Clearly you are the one who doesnt. It was a book written entirely before TLoTR, then re-written and changed to work around and become relevant to TLoTR, but not actually finished and so his son quickly made up his own stuff and added a bunch of random notes he found on his dad's desk and published it after his death. It is about as illegitimate as you can get in terms of cannon.
The books are basically a retelling of the World War 1 and anyone who knows the first thing about that war sees how similar they are. The ring really represents industrialization and the temptation of riches and power at the expense of finding peace with the natural world.
Now that gets you labeled a luddite but you go hang out in Passchendaele or Ypres for a month and see if you come back singing the praises of technology.
Either way the point of LOTR is that even if you vanquish evil the cost of that struggle makes for a hollow victory.
Maia and Valar are both Ainur. There literally the same "species".
they do, they were also created before time and assisted in creating the world.
>Book made mostly by Tolkien
>Finished by his son, another Oxford English professor using his letters and notes to fill in the parts not finished
>Canon to the Universe and history of Middle Earth
But none of this matters because some anonymous poster on an Ethiopian Snake charming forum said it was illegitimate? Sure thing user, you totally showed Tolkien you understand his work better than him
Clearly his fate was more than that because had Smeagle died prior to Frodo entering the volcano, all would have been lost. Smeagle was corrupted but was freed when Bilbo took the ring. He proves this when he has the opportunity to steal the ring and leave Frodo and Sam to die in the Bog and yet chooses to save them both instead.
Smeagle is ultimately the one who destroyed the ring. He is also the one to found it (well, his brother), successfully keep it hidden for hundreds of years, and ultimately bring it to Mordor when Sauron began mobilizing armies again. And I see absolutely no reason to beleive that had Frodo allowed him that Smeafle could not have bore it whilst traveling together either. The only point where Smeagle goes rogue is after the ring almost ends up in the hands of men due to Frodo and Sam's carelessness and they both betray him in doing so as well. With all that was at stake I dont blame him for realsiing he absolutely had fo take the ring the rest of the way himself. Especially when you consider ho visibly weak Frodo was getting from it already by that point.
The World is also becoming less magical and that sort of energy is slowly dissipating from Middle Earth, hence the elves leaving, and thats what makes me love Saurons plan so much. Tie all Magic into a physical indestructible object which cannot dissipate. Its like he hacked Gods own creation you gotta respect that commitment
>but then she resisted the urge and refused to accept it from frodo despite still being in its presence
so? it still would have corrupted her
Those were the Giga-elves of the First (I think, maybe even earlier) age though, Feanor was so angry his body combusted in death, Elrond could never
Makes perfect sense when you realise Sauron’s end game was to sneak into female changing rooms and stealth fap.
Let's anyone slip their finger inside it
No, but the Ring would make them believe they could. It takes enormous amounts of innate power and will to claim the Ring and wrest it from Sauron's control. Galadriel, Gandalf and Saruman could conceivably do it, and maybe Aragorn. Sauron feared this, having been whooped by the Numenoreans twice before, I don't think he was aware what effect the Ring had on mortals, partially shifting into the Unseen and making them invisible to other mortals.
1. Empowers Sauron so that his projected power can be backed up
2. Fucks with other people's heads most often feeding into their ambitions and corrupting them in the hopes that they will self destruct or lose the ring in some way so that it can be brought back to Sauron.
3. Allow the wearer to enter another plane where Sauron can identify them (Not sure about this one)
This, First age elves were fucking war gods with incredible magic because the world was incredibly magic during the first age. A half elf used his magic blessed ship to cruise straight at the greatest dragon of all summoned straight from the void by Melkor and ended up casting him down, destroying three mountain ranges in the process. First Age elves were a different breed than the ones in the third age
Imagine discussing this piece of trash creation for man children written in the worst genre in existence. Fantasy faggots are even lower brain dead scum than capeshits and weeks.
God damn it why does some retard post this every fucking thread. If you don't know what it does, don't make up your own bullshit headcanon and post it as fact.
Ancalagon being that humongous is nothing but braindead fan speculation
Thank God everyone isnt like you. Some of us can have fun with the "fandom" and laugh at the more ridiculous aspects of it since were not autistic. Ancalagon being impossibly fuckhuge is a staple of these threads no one takes him seriously
It’s not a video game, fag.
The only thing on his size is that when he fell he crushed three mountain ranges of the largest mountains on middle Earth under him, he was far more massive than anything else even if he wasn't that massive.
>being this mad about being wrong
>Being wrong
user you're more likely to be wrong than him seeing as no definitive size is given for Ancalagon outside of crushing giant mountains Morgoth raised himself when he was slain
Based Ancalagon causing seething since his inception to this very day, the absolute state of dragonlets
Gandalf was already super saiyan but specifically held back from taking over the show because he had specific orders to let mortals do the heavy lifting.
Books-Gandalf says to Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli something like "none of you can hurt me with weapons" when he comes back Whited.
This implies he's almost physically invulnerable. Maybe the Witch King could have destroyed his body, but literally no other being on Middle Earth had the power.
Galadriel was only resistant to the ring because she rejected it and realised she could never under any circumstances use it.
If she rejected it without this realisation that it needs to be completely rejected it would have continued to tempt her.
If she rejected it completely, then later on decides maybe it's worth a shot then a.) she probably didn't reject it completely in the first place but b.) it would go straight to tempting her again to do more and more extreme shit.
The explanation is he'd be worse because he would mix good with evil. People wouldn't resist him at first, thinking he was there to help. Then in future everyone would associate doing good with his evil so nobody would try to be good anymore.
With Sauron the choice is more black and white so people would resist him more.
Hobbit 3 script
The ring is bound to the spirit world since Sauron is himself a spirit that has taken a physical form. So when you put it on you enter said world, more or less invisible in the living world but very much corporeal in the other world. Sauron used this fact to twist the minds of the nine men who would become the nazgul, they too entered the spirit world when they wore their rings, but since these were bound to The One, Sauron had full control over what they experienced in the spirit world, and it is implied that he twisted their minds with delusions and mental torture until they succumbed to his will.
Thus was the main purpose of the ring to amplify Sauron's innate powers of manipulation and spiritual domination.
When he wore it he could turn more or less anyone to his will, it is how he brought down Numenorean society (admittedly they were pretty corrupt before he arrived, but that made it all the easier for him). It also worked as a lifeline to the physical world, as long as it existed he could never be truly destroyed. And he assumed correctly when he guessed that no one would ever be willing to destroy the ring. Instead it was destroyed by evil fighting itself, the same evil Sauron had counted on to keep it intact. The strife it caused actually ended up being its (and thus Sauron's) downfall, which is typical of Tolkien's idea of Evil being self-destructive.
The ring has a secret power: it makes you live forever. It is noted by Bilbo who felt "stretched", and it is the reason why Gollum is still alive. As for Sauron, it contained the majority of his power, so he obviously wanted it back.
Also, it is not technically correct to say that the ring makes you invisible. The ringwraiths could see Frodo once he wore the ring. The ring makes you like a spirit.
>he had specific orders to let mortals do the heavy lifting.
why is Iluvatar such a dick?
Sauron shitting on middle earth is all his and his angels fault, why let the almost extinct elves and disminished humans deal with him?
Um excuse me, actually a giant invisible leg tripped Smeagle so your beautiful interpretation of evil undoing itself is ackshually bs and really it was just god lol isnt that so much better?!?
>makws any other person invisible
>makes sauron visible
was sauron retarded?
>was stated could resist the ring was Ol' Tom.
Not true, apparently Feanor would be insulted of the Ring existence as non-Feanor copyrighted magical jewelry and would break it apart because he's a dick.
it gives you power but also corrupts you since power corrupts
It just makes you exist on the spiritual plain. People like Sauron already exist on both plains simultaneously, so it doesn't "turn him invisible".
Letting Yea Forumsfags discuss LOTR was a mistake.
We have to go back, Peter
Quality post
I thought the opening scene of FOTR established that the ring gave Sauron the power to punch some dudes away from a few meters distance
>Tom Bombadil was the only being to actually possess the Ring and give it back without suffering any ill effects at all.
But why?
meme image. I don't remember the dragon being "summoned from the void" either. All dragons are literally just Glaurung's descendants, so I don't see how that could be either.
Maybe he fell really fast, like DBZ characters who routinely destroy mountains when they're hit and flying about.
Tom already has everything he wants.
brainlet. Also it's Sméagol, not Smeagle. You clearly didn't even read the books.
Jesus Christ
He's essentially a god that exists outside of the LotR universe. He has his own pocket of reality where he does whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't give a shit about anything else.
The ring could also betray Gandalf because it's ultimately loyal only to Sauron (it contains his power after all).
So Gandalf could storm Barad-dur and overpower Sauron but the ring could easily just fly off his finger and return to its master at the last minute.