Why doesn't he just put those fat fucks on keto

>heheheh silly
their maintenance is often 8000+ calories daily.
All they do is eat.
So yeah, doing meme shit is pointless.

doctor here, factually not true. Fat has no inherent maintenance, the only excess maintenance comes from carrying it around. These severely overweight people just lie in bed all day so their maintenance cannot possibly be in 8000+ range.

post your degree with your hand in the image.
otherwise I'll trust doctor Nazamaram over you.

Why is it that obese people only need to tone down eating to lose weight? It's not like they burn more calories, moving their massive bodies may require more but they mostly sit all day, where does all that fat go?

what is best way to get rid of pot belly, asking for a friend

Lower bf%

the best way is lipo but otherwise just do cardio and muscle work.
You won't see anyone who runs or cycles for long with a pot.

Or you can research it yourself

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tfw lost 100 lbs on keto and have managed to keep it off for a few months now as I’m lifting weights and exercising

Call it a meme diet, but it works and jumpstarted my life into a better living. I’m much more aware of what I’m eating and generally avoid anything with added sugars. Of course, a treat once in a while won’t kill you.

stop drinking alcohol, workout (cardio>strength) Consume less calories

>I'm a doctor
>prove it
>n-no
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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It's a meme diet because of it's label. What worked for you is:
Spending more energie than you consume.

The diet and exercise both tipped the scale into losing weight territory, but the rules of the diet had nothing to do with it.

>Of course, a treat once in a while won’t kill you.

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I’m just saying it helped motivate me into the actual process of making good decisions and being aware of the actual nutritional value of food, my man.

very cool, thanks

>I'm a doctor
>prove it
>Sure I will spend time taking a picture, censoring my name/any information, uploading it, just to convince a faggot on a maylasian nursery rhyme forum that my credentials are valid for the purpose of relaying information that is readily available anyway :^)
Glad I could amuse you though.

Why doesn't he just starve them. Look how thin prisoners of war got.

>writes a greentext essay instead of just posting it
thanks for the laugh, liar.

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Carbs Fat and Protein objectively have different effects on the body you nonce.

put fat people over a specified weight into concentration camps. People are starving, no one should be allowed to get to the point of obesity.

>Carbs Fat and Protein objectively have different effects on the body you nonce.

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Good on you, That's actually the best thing about fad diets!

dumb frogposter
regarding losing weight, not so much

>OMIGOSH I LOVE DIETING I DON'T HAVE TO EXCERCISE AT ALL

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based reddjack poster

Keto diet is also good if you like those foods you can eat meat and eggs and veg. Carbs are mostly boring so fuck em

retarded question but is there a good reason to do weight lifting if you're a huge fat ass that's currently dieting and doing cardio?

When you get to be that fat, food becomes like a drug to you. Plus they're stupid and they're already hedonistic its just not a good combination and most if not all of them end up eating themselves to death

helps with saggy skin if it’s severe enough
And you look better for the ladies

I mean it's not a bad way to lose weight, there's only so much cardio you can do as a fat-fuck before you're going to be hurting your joints.
You shouldn't be running 10km a day if you're fat, so combining different forms of excercise raises the ceiling for how many calories you can burn without the significantly higher risk.

fuck off LARPfag

That pretty much proves his point though, doesn't it? 8000 was too much, but maintainenace of 4500 is still crazy. They would lose weight fast by eating 3 McDonald's menus per day.

Ok Sir, sorry to disturb your day. I need to work on my scerlodermia paper anyway.

I was on keto for years, I lost weight but also got chronic heartburn and stomach ulcers

4500 is crazy, yes. But these calculators are fit for "normal" people, so sedentary lifestyle means "predominantly sitting". But you still walk around to get food, go to the toilet, use public transport etc etc. It's just a medical term for having a job that involves no physical activity whatsoever + no sports in your free time.
So the high weight of 600lbs multiplies any muscle usage the calculator implies due to your lifestyle. This implied usage is grossly overestimated for these patients though.

If there was an option on the website for "lies in bed 24/7" the maintenance would be at 3000 probably.

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Why years?
And did you ever get a blood profile done? Mine came back as the best results I’ve had in years when I was on it for a bit, but that’s only because I changed my lifestyle in general.

After I stopped and got tested again, my cholesterol was actually creeping upwards again so I’m picking back up on some daily cardio exercise.

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People tricked me into thinking keto was a whole lifestyle thing instead of a crash diet

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He does. Low carb, high protein but with no fat increase. That's the diet he puts them, to lose some weight so they can do the surgery.

i see
alright sounds good, i did get a used exercise bike since i've read it's better for your joints when you're a huge fat ass

Yeah, I wouldn’t be on keto as a permanentish diet unless you’re diabetic or have epilepsy.

>Hey Shaneese, look what I find in trash!
>you think I'm stupid?!
>you're not 700 pound if water
God that was amazing

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DO YOU BELIEVE IN GAHD

How is dat relevant?

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exactly the other way around retard. Keto is amazing for obese people because it not only achieves dramatic results, it also teaches self control as fat and protein is far more sating than carbs.

GAWD DOCTAH NAWW
GAWD WILL SAVE ME

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Bump for excitement.

:)

Keto is probably one of the only diets that exists that isn't an actual meme.
>t. Formally Obese, now down 100lbs in just over 6 months

Why don't they just lock the fatties in a room with no food and then give them healthy food three times a day, forcing them to either eat it or die? With guards of course to make sure they don't commit suicide. If we ever have to deal with "Medicare for All" this will have to be required for all obese Americans.

It's not realistic if they have a job

I'm a trained genetic engineer who's been out of work for 2 years outside of contracting or labor, these fatties can't even work bottom level jobs at fast food because they'd use all the product

There are a lot of jobs out there that let you work from home remotely these days, gramps.

I seriously don't know of a single one

There is literally nothing stopping a programmer/developer or pretty much any I.T job except maybe a network manager from working remotely.

They do actually require way more calories to maintain their fat cells and all that shit. Their BMR is through the roof. But all people can lose weight by toning down eating.

Keto sans ironie

>best way to lose weight is to not be fat

Dr. Now pls go

Well just as an experiment, but also take into account those who are so fat they barely move and people who can work from home (research, programmers, etc.). I've been wanting to try isolation experiments like this before, both with drug addicts and fatties. Unfortunately, "muh ethics" prevents people from conducting experiments like this.

BTFO "Doctor" Faggot
I bet you're a nurse or a chiropractor lmao

>wtf she's not that fat
>oh wait the dude lmao

Nigga, these people can't even do a consistent caloric restriction diet, you expect them do that and plus restrict the specific types of food, mostly carbs, from what they're eating? They're going to fail.

Yes

It will contribute to
>weight loss
>visual appearance
>confidence
>general mental and physical well-being

Do it now

Kettlebell swings. Intermittent fasting.

this, are you me

kek had the same reaction

I think it would work best for people who can still move, and rather a prison, send them to a general bootcamp out in the boonies.

>Sure I will spend time taking a picture, censoring my name/any information, uploading it,

You faggot, i takes a minute to put a white sheet over your name and taking a picture with your phone. So stop larping.

Because keto is a shit diet. It is the equivalent of starving yourself and most people don’t even cut all carbs when they go on “keto”, they just reduce them and increase protein consumption.

“Low carb, high protein” diet is proven to be the most effective diet, but idiot keto fags don’t even know what keto is and think it’s the same.

>It is the equivalent of starving yourself
retard alert

Except ketosis only happens when your body doesn’t have energy. It is the first line of energy resources available to your body when you haven’t ingested any calories. It’s that acidic taste in your mouth you have when you haven’t eaten all day. Type 1 diabetics have excess of ketones when they don’t use insulin because their cells cannot absorb the sugar in their blood.

Real keto diet involves eating 0 carbs, which are needed to transform amino acids and fat cells into usable glucose, meaning you are unable to use any of the energy from the food you consumed.

Real keto diet works by starving your body, which is why no professional will ever recommend true keto.

The best diet is to reduce carbs and increase protein consumption. Proteins give the lowest net energy of all macronutrients and most protein heavy foods tend to be mostly water, which means they are often lower calorie than an equivalent weight of a carb heavy food, filling you up faster. This low carb, high protein diet is often misattributed as “keto”, when it really has nothing to do with ketosis at all.

Haven't heard so much bullshit bro science for a while.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

At least google it, faggot.

>Ketosis is a nutritional process characterised by serum concentrations of ketone bodies over 0.5 mM, with low and stable levels of insulin and blood glucose.

Quoted from your own link you dumb cunt.

Just give them adderall. I lost 50 pounds in a month on that shit.

>Generally, ketosis occurs when the liver is metabolizing fatty acids or ethanol at a high rate in the absence of glucose and converting the product acetyl-CoA into ketone bodies

Literally before that. Also:
>Most cells in the body can use both glucose and ketone bodies for fuel, and during ketosis, free fatty acids and glucose synthesis (gluconeogenesis) fuel the remainder.

The body produces it’s own glucose through gluconeogenesis, which is why the body still has glucose. Gluconeogenesis is very energy inefficient which is why ketones (more energy efficient) takes over for most energy needs, while gluconeogenesis is only there for the body processes that REQUIRE glucose.

>Just give them amphetamines, lol.

They are already addicted to food, and half are addicted to pain killers. You really think that is a good idea?

yes. a controlled amphetamine like adderall would keep them from shoving food in their mouths

You can get over 0.5 mM AND eat a few carbs a day though. I literally do it myself.

There are a lot of green vegetables and also certain berries that contain a few carbs. These can be eaten as part of your diet AND keep your ketone level above 0.5mM

"yes"

It wouldn’t do that at all, it would likely make them more impulsive even if they still end up losing weight do to increased energy needs. Phen-phen was used with a similar mechanism (although it isn’t a full on stimulant like amphetamines) and had a host of issues, which is why it is basically unused now.

Keto is a meme. It only "works" because you restrict carbs (with are usually very calorie heavy foods) )in your diet. Same as the meme that was intermittent fasting which encouraged you to eat in small window frame. That type of eating also "worked" because it's hard to eat like a pig in the span of 4 hours, for example.

You can be on diet of ice creams and still lose weight as long as you consume less calories than you burn. That's it. There's no magic.

Thats all diet pills and trucker no sleep pills were for years until the 90s

Remember stacker?

If you are in ketosis you are by definition starving yourself. Green vegetables have very few carbs (broccoli has less than 10 kcal per gram), most of which are equivalent to what is used to even digest then.

Your carb consumption is so low it is basically non-existant, this is not even the equivalent of a very low carb diet which would have something like 20% of total kcal being carbs (which is around 400 kcal of carbs). This is like an anorexic saying “I technically did eat today because I ate a single french frie, tee-hee”.

Also, prolonged ketosis makes you dumb and stunts your growth since you are literally starving yourself. Maybe that is why you are so retarded?

I lost 30lbs but I'm stuck now. I eat 1500 cals a day and walk for an hour 5 days a week. What am I doing wrong?

How are there this many fat people in the US? Most of them aren't even old.

So diets are a "meme" because they work they way they're intended to?

Based retard

My dad lost 40 punds in 6 weeks on it

>If you are in ketosis you are by definition starving yourself.
I'm consuming 1200kcal a day. I am in ketosis. Explain how I'm retarded and you're correct.

Are you trying to tell me I'm starving myself of carbs? If so, you're kinda correct. Carbs consist of about 5% of my daily calorific intake. I don't need any more than this to live healthy.

calorie deficit. cardio and weight lifting. you can't spot reduce.

okay so just running/cycling and push ups/sit ups? I don't feel like going to a gym and lifting weights is cringy

They work because you restrict your calories, moron, not because you somehow magically burn fat from nothing. If you eat more than you burn, even if you eat precisely 0 carbs, you'll still gain weight.

love how much OP got BTFO

You are either:

1. Consuming more calories than you think you are.
2. Not exercising as much as you think you are.
3. Your dietary needs have changed with your weight loss.

Recalculate your basal metabolic rate and re-evaluate what you are consuming to make sure you are still in a deficiency.

Obviously, but if you do the exact same thing whilst also being in ketosis, you'll drop that weight a lot faster.

HEY FATTIES

STOP FUCKING EATING

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drop to 1200 kcal a day and do some body weight exercise before your cardio

No, you won't. If you consume 1900 calories today, that's the amount of calories you consume. Ketosis or not, that number won't jump to 3000 from nowhere.

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>lifting weights is cringy

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You literally will though. Please stop being so dumb and pretending like you know what you're talking about.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you happy.

Can't these people just be put on an intravenous liquid diet for a couple months? Why enable fatasses like that? I mean if somebody is suicidal then we lock them up. 600lb people, for all intents and purposes are suicidal.

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You aren’t able to use those calories for energy because you aren’t consuming glucose, idiot.

Amino acids need to go through the krebs cycle to produce energy, otherwise, without glucose, the krebs cycle doesn’t happen and is replaced by ketosis.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenesis
>Under normal conditions, acetyl-CoA is further oxidized by the citric acid cycle (TCA/Krebs cycle) and then by the mitochondrial electron transport chain to release energy. However, if the amounts of acetyl-CoA generated in fatty-acid β-oxidation challenge the processing capacity of the TCA cycle; i.e. if activity in TCA cycle is low due to low amounts of intermediates such as oxaloacetate, acetyl-CoA is then used instead in biosynthesis of ketone bodies via acetoacyl-CoA and β-hydroxy-β-methylglutaryl-CoA (HMG-CoA).

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Yes, that is fine. The majority of your calorie burning will be through aerobic exercise, such as running. Weights and other anaerobic exercise (like push ups) are mostly to build muscle strength and tone.

Part of the point is that even if you do that then once you let them out they're going to immediately gain it back by going back to eating shitty diets
Getting them to understand the problem and work themselves to fix it is the ideal situation because when it works it lets them be successful in the long term with keeping the weight off
It's just that in practice this doesn't usually work because most of these fat fucks have no willpower

IV diets are actually really bad compared to oral diets, and are never a good replacement for oral diets. They are only used as a last resort for someone who literally cannot eat by mouth for a prolonged period of time (like losing your stomach in a surgery). IV diets are actually mostly used as an adjunct to oral diets.

Their stomachs would get atrophied, which would make it very hard to go back to oral diets. They would also be at a high risk for blood infections (due to all the sugar in the IV food solution). They would still feel starved since their stomachs are empty and would get bad gastritis and stomach ulcers.

bullshit
he called out the pharma jew quite clearly in one show
Dr Now is afraid of nothing

IT GOES OUT

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good thing you stopped feeding huh

Why is it that doctors have no basic understanding of biochemistry?

Taylor Swift is looking kinda right

they cheated their way through med school

is this copy pasted or are you just knowledgeable about this stuff?

Pah. Manga wonjee kohkpa, oong jedi. Chool kanya wee shaja mee-choo.

they shouldn't be allowed to eat

doctors are robots. they know what you program, them with. they're not programmed with this.

>How ya'll doin'? I'm Dr. Now
>You don't get to bring snacks
>The diet plan I just filed with the nurse lists: salad, yogurt and fruit but only one lil' eggroll
>First one to lose 100 lbs gets to stay in my hospital
>He didn't diet so good
>Tell me about James K, why does he consume 15,000 calories a day?
>Lotta loyalty for an enabling caretaker...

>OR MEBBE SHE'S WONDERIN' WHY YA'LL WOULD MAKE A MAN DIET, 'FORE GIVIN' HIM A GASTRIC BYPASS?

>At least you can walk, how much do you weigh?

>ET DON'T MATTER HOW HEAVY I EM, WUT MATTERS IS MUH FEWD
>NO ONE CARED 'BOUT MAH MEALS B'FORE I PUT ON TH' WEIGHT

>James K?
>If I touch those leg boils, will you die?

>ET WUD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL...

>You're a big guy--

>--OW! MUH LAYGS!

>Was eating rice part of your meal plan?

>IT'S FRIED!

>Well congratulations, you got fat, now what's the next step of your weight loss plan?

>EATIN' THIS CHINESE FEWD
>WITH NO LEFTOVERS!

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>I’m an MD. I’m free today and spending my free time shitposting on Yea Forums because fuck being productive on an off day.

I went from a skinny fat loser so being in relatively good shape by doing this:
>15-20 minutes of cardio (goal is to burn 250-300 calories
>60-80 minutes of lifting weights (I rotate 4 days of chest/triceps, back/biceps, shoulders, legs, with abs 3/4 days.

I guess they don't teached how to greentext in medical school huh champ?

Kek

Yeah, fucked up, I skipped all the 4channing classes.

Because even sitting there doing literally nothing all day burns enough calories that it takes 8000+ calories a day to maintain how ridiculously fat they are. Reducing it to 5000 alone can lose them 100+ pounds

>the apparent sugar shills ITT trying to convince me I didn't lose 50 pounds and haven't felt great since cutting out carbs
Post all the graphs you want. It's done. The beans are spilled. The cat's out of the bag.

Carbs cause inflammation throughout the body, and throw off dopamine levels. What average people experience as "hunger" are really heroin-like dope cravings. Try keto for a week, and you'll find that real hunger is a dignified and manageable feeling which politely lets you know you should think about eating.

>the correct moral choice is to eat like a glutton and then work out like mad
Must be tough being called a retard your whole life.

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I'm new to fatkino, what are Dr. Now's best moments?

>real hunger is a dignified and manageable feeling which politely lets you know you should think about eating.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I WANT A "HUNGER" GF BROS

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amazing and underrated

every damn show
the best parts are when he calls someone out on obvious lies

>>--OW! MUH LAYGS!
Reading this out loud got me

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James K and the Assanti Saga are peak fatkino
If you're purely looking for people getting BTFO by Dr. Now, Angie J. from the new season is pretty good, she is a real piece of work.

one of the best parts of the series
J: I want Chinese
L: rice isn't part of the diet
J: but it's friiied

Schenee is also a must see

Not that guy but what about levels of insulin and all that?

Thank you.
Scheneed.

because he’s an iranian goblin who does nothing but staple stomachs together and tell fat fucks to just not eat

I was loosing almost 1lb per day on keto. Sure, I was also eating a lot less because of keto, but yeah, 60lb in just 3 months and kept it down from 2 years so far

GUARANTEED PAJEET DOCTOR OF GENDER STUDIES

Keto is the only thing that fixed my gut health and made me keep a few extra pounds off.

>Lonely gymcel cunts think they're cooler or better than anyone else because they spend all of their time at the gym building muscles they'll never actually use since no one wants to interact with them
Sad!

Just stop eating so much.
That's it. No meme magic diet will ever compare.

HIT to get rid of it
Weight lifting to keep it off. Just the act of walking about the world with heavy muscles all over your body burns the most fat.
If you cba doing anything physical try the snake juice diet. It's not as bad as you might think - being hungry all the time really changes your mindset. After 4 days with no food all I can smell everywhere is spices and sugar.

>CARBS BAD
Stop coping fatties you just eat too much of them

I've lost around 85 lbs or so since late February of last year, and started with heavier weightlifting during the later part of last year. I've found that as I've increased my weightlifting exercise, I've been able to lighten my focus on diet (I'm not looking to be a bodybuilder) without gaining weight but still continuing to lose inches around my waist. Weightlifting, for me at least, is more enjoyable and gives you immediate goals like upping your lifting capacity which can make it easier to get motivated. Also, once you lose your weight, if you haven't been doing some sort of muscle building, you'll probably wind up with a skinny fat look.

just finished consuming three and a half pounds of Planter's mixed nuts

what should I expect?

poop

Eat your avacados and eggs ketocel you're getting grumpy

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOUR A LOSER IF YOU LIFT WEIGHTS YOU R A LOSER YOUR A LOSER YOUR A LOSER YOUR A LOSER YOUR A LOSER

calm down user

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he kind of does, he says low carb, although we don't know an exact number, seems like when they follow the diet properly it's pretty close to keto. But it's high protein too,

I'm not on keto and those aren't arguments

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>lose an entire extreme obese persons weight
>still fucking fat

jesus christ man

he's still fat, but not the kind of fat where you would even look twice at him if you saw him at the grocery store

What's the life expectancy of /ourguy/ James King?

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>only if you're not that fat.
it works for everybody

>You don't need to force someone that fat into ketosis, their maintenance calories are already so high that it's impossible for them to not lose weight by lowering servings alone without even considering what they're eating.
they have more wrong with them than portion control

>Keto also reduces blood sugars rapidly, which can be dangerous for diabetics for obvious reasons.
that's why keto is corrective for diabetics, they can completely eliminate their type 2 symptoms

>Keto is a meme diet for skinny-fats who don't want to work off their pot-bellies.
ketosis is a physiological process in the body. it's purpose is to use burn off stored fat.

>It's stupid to put severely obese people on it.
i disagree, add fasting in as well.

>Fat has no inherent maintenance
you aren't a doctor. A doctor would immediately realize the amount of extra work in just keeping 400lbs of fat oxygenated would shoot maintenance calories into the 8k range. These people look and act like they're in a constant state of tachycardia. Not to mention it seems like taking a breath burns 10 calories on it's own.

every single one of these people is a compulsive eater as a result of some psychological trauma.

water fasting

don't eat for 72 hours at a time

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Maybe not in fucking burgerland but anywhere where real people exist he's more blob than man

>72 hour fast
which is worse for your health, being obese or using meth?

obesity

keto is only a meme if you're already

He sort of does. Look up his diet recommendations.

Jumping in on this convo. You're retarded. Keto works. Do some actual baseline research instead of solely reading the /fit/ sticky to know what you're talking about. Faggot.

t. Big Bread shill

Because we make them feel hunger we'll be invoking white supremacy on their stomachs. So we need to pay for their incredibly expensive stomach shrinking surgeries so they can still feel full while losing weight.