Literally just revenge fan fiction for what Manson did to our dindu nuffin good boy (((Polanski)))

it wasn't revenge fiction. I think it was an extremely reactionary defense of "heritage America" vs. socially revolutionary and destructive forces. It had an incredibly conservative view of femininity, tradition, white men, the Old America vs the New.

I thought it was a fantastic movie, too

Also there was zero "defense" of Polanski. His crime hadn't occurred yet and wouldn't for years. Polanski was at most a set piece. It was about the destruction of American tradition, purity, and innocence through the brutal murder of Sharon Tate, the annihilation of her femininity by depraved left-wing revolutionaries

>it wasn't revenge fiction

Dude it literally made up some bullshit characters to stop the bad thing from happening to poor roman :(((

You might be right on the other stuff. I did like how white it was and "fuck goddamn hippies".

Only after his wife was killed. He was quoted as saying he wanted to be there so he could die with her.

And finally, in the film, this destruction of Tate and End of the American Promise was instead interrupted and defeated by Heritage America, by cowboy masculinity, the old destroying the new before it violated Tate

That movie Tarantino selected that Tate was watching was classic throwback stuff to female characters who could be the sexy klutz without any meta commentary on her role. There's definite truth to what you're saying

it fucking sucked, i did a rant here yesterday and literally no one replied to my thread so fuck you all

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Can you link it in the archive? I'd be willing to read it.

why would anyone read shit opinions

Yeah I think Tate in the film is the total embodiment of traditional femininity. Beautiful, kind, filled with innocent compassion, motherly (note how steve mcqueen specifically notices her attraction to dweeby young-looking men like Polanski), seen doing chores, literally pregnant.

Contrast this to the girls in the Family. Extremely sexually aggressive, nearly pre-pubescent yet precocious in their sexuality, distorted family role, aggressive towards police and society with an idiotic political bent, living in filth and squalor, literally murderous.

>MUH OPINIONS MATTER!
>WHY WON’T ANYBODY LISTEN TO MEEEEE!
cringe. gb2R smoothbrain.

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The Tate murder is often seen as a bookend to the 60s- the brutality shattering the illusion both of post-war america and of the free-love of the hippie movement. in the film, it is stopped, pre-empted by these old world men in the fulfillment of their masculine role, and then Leo ascends into "Paradise" as the gates to the Polanski home open and he walks up

I think this is incredibly direct stuff

Do you think Tex and the guy with the busted tooth are mirrors of Cliff and Dalton? While they have a hippie harem essentially, Cliff and Dalton could be slaying pussy any day of the week, but are much more reserved (the girl Cliff picks up calls him no fun)

that's a good point, i didn't even think of that

here it is, i agree with the OP here.

because its a discussion board retard

then why are we here

>these days
tarantula has always been a hack

the "point" of Margot's character and the 20 minutes of her just wandering around was to establish her as the pure, innocent, feminine, motherly symbol that you KNOW is going to be brutally violated. Why would you give a shit about her otherwise? Why would any of the movie make sense? It's 20 minutes of the audience basking in her radiant femininity, and it works

You seem smart

is Manson even a character in this movie?

No

The manson shit is overhype. Its just inglorious basterds set in Hollywood

This, it's classic movie slasher stuff too of setting up the victim - perfectly baited by Tarantino.

Has one line of dialogue and has a cameo at another part.

>>le random violence twist AGAIN

To be fair, this is a problem with modern movies as a whole like Ex-Machina. Really didn't need to get randomly violent at the end, but it did.

these are my thoughts exactly

He literally isn't. Retard.

it didn't work on me, but i'm not a faggot

Almost makes me question the reality of the ending, similar to Taxi Driver. Was Dalton zapped to death when the radio fell in the pool?
Probably not, but interesting to think about.

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Why is he listed on IMDb?

Manson is more famous than Tate or almost any celebrity this half decade. He shouldn't be. He's a stupid redneck loser. He even calls himself dumb in interviews. You see him stumble on his words then start speaking gibberish while smiling. He knows this is all stupid shit and he makes the best of it.

Tate and the others never had a chance. But this movie brings Tate to the stage with hopes of making her a star again. Her light shouldn't have extinguished the night of the murders. And Charlie's light shouldn't have been shown brighter after, which is what history has brought for 40 years.

Of course the movie is saying "fuck Manson and his followers". Good.

Do you not know what "LITERALLY" means? Polanski is not in the movie. There's an actor playing Polanski. But the real man, is literally not in the movie. You can't say he literally is when the guy is playing him.

And making people watch her movie as a movie within a movie (like how video games have minigames of older games), you're putting an interesting spin on how this is almost preserving history

And Steven McQueen is literally not in the movie either. I'm talking about the person and how they're represented

not really, no

I don't think Polanski is represented as "good" or "bad" or anything else in the movie. He's a minor plot device. And he literally hadn't done anything wrong in 1969 so what is the point of turning to the camera and going "Rape is Bad" in the middle of the fucking film, other than to satisfy a psychotic HuffPo writer

im glad we agree you seem like a smart person

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I think showing a positive relationship of Dalton having with that girl on set was a bad call in relation to Polanski, and if you think about it with what Cliff said, it's even more hilarious

If anything, I would have liked to have shown a hidden sinister aspect to Polanski to not totally white wash him. I get what you mean that he is minor in regards to Sharon Tate, but he is still apart of it and Hollywood is still kissing his ass all these years later

why? why does there need to be a sinister aspect? The movie is not about Roman Polanski. It is not a director's job to lecture the audience that a bit character was actually bad, because some bloggers will get mad if you don't. What was "white washed," he HADN'T EVEN COMMITTED THE CRIME YET.

And you can't have, what, a conversation with a child in a movie because Roman Polanski briefly appears in it? Are you fucking with me?

That's like having characters in a movie discussing consent with women and then the movie having Bill Cosby in it, but not commenting on anything he did and that he is a funny comedian (like how the movie says Roman is a talented director)

im sorry but thats fucking stupid OP, Plebentino's autism was off the chart in this movie and he ruined a stellar cast

you didn't put enough race bait and /pol/ buzzwords in it, obviously
look at this OP it's like 90% buzzwords and alt-incel memes

shit you're right, i suck at click bait, need to work on it

>not plugged in
>two AA batteries
>zapped to death
back to school kiddo

>love manson
LOL

I don’t see it

Only thing Manson did wrong was letting the child raping rat slip his hands.

Nope. It's meant to be dreamlike because the title is literally, "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" That's why it ends in a somber note, even though it's good ending.

Yes, but for a line. It's actually really well done. You expect him to show up a bunch of times, but he's just a cameo at best. But the character lingers throughout. We actually see more of Tex, who looks like Manson, but isn't taken seriously by anyone but his dumb followers.

hehe brad pitt always eats something :)

they all were

MANSON BAD

So he took the route of revenge. Interesting. After the comments to Western culture he made in Inglorious Bastards, I thought for a while that he would take another path. A more brutal one. I understand. I guess there are limits he don't want to cross.

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