Look at everton fans forums

imagine going into depression over banter KWAB

>You now realise the last season Everton will ever play at Goodison Park will be in the Championship
>You now realise the last Merseyside Derby at Goodison Park was a pathetic 4-1 loss with a former Liverpool manager in charge of Everton
Everton is a social experiment to see how much one fan base can be put through.

The thing with Everton is that they seem actually torn up by how shit their team is, despite them having been shit for a LONG time. Normally clubs in their position, or worse, just develop a sense of gallows humour and learn to laugh at how shit they are. Man City fans before the takeover almost used to revel in how bad they were compared to Man Utd as if it were a badge of pride. But Evertonians seem truly cut up about how badly they compare to their rivals. Maybe it's because it wasn't that long ago (only the 80s) that they were on a level playing field?

I know that feeling, when I was going through dark times, my football club is the only thing that kept me going and that I could even get moderately excited for.

Given how shit everything is in the UK right now, it must be hell for so many of them.

Lots of Northern places, Liverpool, Newcastle etc literally live and breathe football.

I literally wake up and the first thing I think of in the morning is relegation.. then my mood stays low from there.
Top kek

>>You now realise the last season Everton will ever play at Goodison Park will be in the Championship
Tbh I reckon if they get relegated there's zero possibility of that new stadium being able to be financed or sustained by them at least.

They had hope with Mouyes and Lukaku. Now they have a revolving door for a manager, Michael Keane, Mason Holgate, and Jonjoe Kenny

>Maybe it's because it wasn't that long ago (only the 80s) that they were on a level playing field?
Well yes, not to mention Everton were sort of good in the 2000s / early 2010s before they got the money, but a retarded owner has come in and just fucked everything up beyond repair when really it was the easiest fix up job in football. Everton's rapid decline will be a case study in the future of how not to run a football club.

>>I get constant pelters from friends, family and work colleagues about Everton because they think we're a joke... but it's not funny to me.
>>They don't realise how down I get seeing us this way.. and when I mention that I don't like the jokes they still laugh... Especially at work.

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It's because of the rivalry.

Some will admit it, some won't. But Everton's entire image is built around comparing themselves to Liverpool in the modern era.

They can't let the gallows/blitz humour develop because it'd mean accepting defeat to Liverpool, which they fundamentally can't do.

So they have to keep tricking themselves that things will get better, and when they get worse it hits even harder.

Unironically the only reason I feel lots of Everton fans wanted Lampard is because they wanted to feel like they had a horse in the "Gerrard vs Lampard" debate.

When Lampard took over, the first thing Everton tweeted out was a graph of all his player statistics when he was at Chelsea. Because being able to say "Lampard is better than Gerrard" and feeling like it meant something to them was really important.

Until Everton manage to de-couple their self image from LFC, it'll just be an eternity of constant pain.

>there's zero possibility of that new stadium being able to be financed or sustained by them at least.
The stadium has already been paid for, because they had to provide the funding up front as proof of work. No matter what the stadium is being built, but the issue is maintaining it and selling out tickets. How did Newcastle manage St James' Park when they went down since it's a similar capacity?

>Can you imagine supporting a club that never wins anything and is absolute dogshit with no improvement year on year.
Yes, this is 95% of clubs. If you want to win trophies, then go support Man City.

i get it, a ton of everton fans were alive in the 80s where liverpool and everton were on par, and gave even banter with eachother. now one is one of the top 5 clubs in the world and the other is one of the worst ran clubs in the world and going into the abyss that took leeds 20 years to recover from, and sunderland still havnt. i cant think of a bigger fall from grace. i wonder how many of their kids nowadays are supporting liverpool in spite of them supporting everton

yep this is a major thing and it still gets brought up all the time. I live about 5 mins from Anfield and Goodison. Evertonians say the RS (red shite) are obsessed with them but Evertonians honestly believe that if it wasn't for Heysel (which was a disgrace, no LFC fan is proud of anything that happened that day) that Everton would have been kings of Europe and still would be this day. Evertonians are really quite odd and unrelatable people, it is worth taking a trip to Goodison and hanging around there for a bit to get a better understanding of them. It is like visiting two different worlds. You can drive past Goodison and Anfield in a 10 minute journey. Anfield is always surrounded by tourists every day taking photos and admiring the stadium. Goodison a 5 minute walk away is just surrounded by terraced houses, uncomfortable place to be as a stranger and weird gormless faces walking to the off-licence at 9am in the morning. Have a look on google maps for a laugh

it cant be that big a rivalry because they always say theyre not arsed about the derby, and not arsed if liverpool win a trophy

Even lower league clubs have stuff to look forward to.

They can get promoted, be involved in exciting playoff runs etc

Everton have literally had nothing to look forward to in 20 years.

They did what, made the FA cup semi final once and lost to Liverpool?

>it cant be that big a rivalry because they always say theyre not arsed about the derby
Who the fuck are you talking about? Everton fans were setting off fireworks at the 2-0 win at Anfield last season. The rivalry is huge, it's just the gap in quality has never been bigger.

its not even about trophies for them, its the illusion of still being bigtime, like man utd in a way but much smaller scale. they want fame, to be classed as a top half premier league team, everton could realistically win the league etc. when they got ancelotti it was great not because of his ability but because of his name. they still believe they are a bigger club than spurs city etc

whenever i banter my mates about winning the derby they just say yeah not arsed mate dont care about the RS etc. i think its just cope

That's pure cope, I have lots of Everton family and friends, and they are incredibly bothered about the rivalry and Liverpool's success.

One of my mates says the best night out he's ever had following football was when Real beat Liverpool in the CL final

Here's Everton fans at Spurs away, whilst Everton are losing to them, chanting we're gonna have a party when Spurs win the cup:

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Imagine being that cucked

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>i think its just cope
Well yeah what else are they supposed to do. I'm an Everton fan but even I know there is literally no response to Liverpool's banter but cope, there's just zero ammunition against them.

It's funny. I spent 2 years working in England (Luton actually) and Brits couldn't handle banks at all. I'd say stuff that would get a laugh at home and the response would be "oooohhhhhhh." I'm not talking anything particularly offensive, just light mocking of colleagues and you'd swear I'd just given them a wedgie by the reaction from most people. One guy came up to me after a joke I made and quietly said, "that was actually pretty funny" as if it was some sort of crime to laugh at it.

The only ones who consistently laughed at what I'd say were another Irish guy, an Aussie and an Indian guy.

Everton fans literally consider suicide or go off sick from work for weeks with depression over the derby result because they base their whole existence around that football club. They are quite mentally ill. If you spent any time around them you would know this. And seeing Liverpool doing well is incredibly traumatic to them because they believe that if English clubs were not banned from Europe due to Heysel, Everton would be the European powerhouse then, now and forever. Not even being facetious. They believe this.

They can fuck off and try being a Darlington, Scarborough or York supporter before whining about the horror of playing Championship teams like Middlesbrough and Blackpool every week.

Dramatic little cunts

Southerners can't handle the banter, I realised that pretty quickly at University. Their humour is quite different to Northerners

I just realised I literally have no idea what Goodison Park looks like from outside the stadium.

I missed the part when those clubs were given a billion pound budget in the top flight only to see the very owner who gave them that money piss it all away and actively ruin the club over vanity. Everton are going through a level of humiliation thats unprecedented.

>>You now realise the last season Everton will ever play at Goodison Park will be in the Championship

If Everton go down, they'll be Sunderland 2.0. They've spent 500 million on players and there's maybe 2 or 3 who are decent. None of their players have relegation clauses. Iwobi on £50,000 per week, Keane on £65,000.

Their last season at Goodison will end with a relegation.

I was at a gig in Liverpool a few months ago and they played "You'll Never Walk Alone" before the band walked on. The scousers next to me were singing it but also taking the piss out of Everton. It seems like they're a laughing stock in their own city.

>They're not even having the worst season compared to clubs like Derby or Sheff Weds

mate they've never been relegated, i'd say it's pretty fucking dire

its about expectations. if youre scarborough youve only known shit, and only expect shit, youve never experienced good stuff. like how being a millionaire then losing it is worse than never having anything

when everton got bought out, they thought they would compete for the league and CL

>Evertonians honestly believe that if it wasn't for Heysel (which was a disgrace, no LFC fan is proud of anything that happened that day) that Everton would have been kings of Europe and still would be this day.
I reckon they'd probably have won a European cup in that period if not for the ban. Probably wouldn't be much better off long-term but they'd have more silverware in the cabinet.

You now remember when Everton made a trophy cabinet to fit the European Cup, but housed a cuckoo clock in it until they won it. Then they lost

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southerners are absolute puffs. Northerners can be drinking pints together, then arguing like they are gonna fight then drinking and laughing a minute later. The south cannot banter. Their sense of humour was destroyed by having to pay 400k+ for a Barret deano-build house on an estate, a 1 hour each way train ride to work and £5.75 for a pint.

>Probably wouldn't be much better off long-term but they'd have more silverware in the cabinet.
Exactly, things could have remained exactly the same but one European Cup win would give some prestige to Everton's history, and the chance was robbed from them because of the direct actions of Liverpool fans.

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I reckon being a one-club city makes it much more bearable. Doesn't matter how shit the likes of Newcastle, Sunderland or Middlesbrough are, when they've been relegated they're still the only professional club in their city and it's not going to do major harm to their support base or their future in the city.

Then you have the likes of Villa who, even when they went down, were better off than their local rivals.

pretty isn't it, aussie-bro? It is a 5 min drive away, its basically a no-go area.

My team got relegated recently for the first time in its history and everyone went from fearing us to memeing
us to death. Never once I thought killing myself would be a good cope desu, and we endured one of the worst corruption and administration crisis that although weak by now still tries to show its claws. They ransacked my club and didn't want anyone to stop, we were on the verge of projected total bankrupcy this year until Ronaldo Fenomeno came and buy us

>Then they were told they couldn't compete in European competition because some Liverpool fans murdered a group of Italians and ruined the reputation of English clubs forever
Fixed

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they need to just boycott until they actually sort their shit out. some of them seem to see that the only way the owners will learn is with their wallets but some brainlets with nothing else in their lives just renew season tickets without thinking (at a higher price than last year even if they go down). owners think 'if youre going to sell out anyway then why bother trying to be good'

North Liverpool has been abandoned for years, all the funding goes for South end puffs and their 1 million students and parks

That image is from 5 years before Heysel

>That image is from 5 years before Heysel
Doesn't matter, at the end of the day Everton were on course to be favourites for a European title but Liverpool fans sperged out and ruined it not just for Everton but for everyone else too.

>they need to just boycott until they actually sort their shit out. some of them seem to see that the only way the owners will learn is with their wallets but some brainlets with nothing else in their lives just renew season tickets without thinking
When has a boycott ever worked to change a football club though? There were plenty of Newcastle fans who literally stopped going to any games from the moment Mike Ashley bought the club until the day he sold it. Didn't do shit, it took well over a decade for him to sell despite his awful reputation and in the end he only let the club go because some of the richest people in the world coughed up for it.

my dad went to every Liverpool game home and away for about 35 years and gave me a shoebox when he passed, its got every ticket he ever kept. Tickets from Heysel and Hillsborough there ofc. He told me what Heysel was like and it traumatised him desu, will tell what he told me if anyone interested

if we go down into the dark shithole that is the lower leagues i shant be going to any games until we are back up. not going to backwater shite towns with shite grounds and every team has the same 4 generic chants. dont care what you think about me shant do it simple as

Tranmere will be Everton's derby in a few years.

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Yeah, go on then

Tell us mate, also, wasn't UEFA pretty desperate back then to ban English clubs because of how much of a violent animals their fans are? And it just so happened that Heysel occurred at the perfect time during the peak of English hooliganism and they finally had a good reason to ban English clubs

You just sound like a plastic. I understand being reluctant to shell out as much money but just totally abandoning your team because they got relegated is a pathetic move worthy of mockery.

For as much as people mock them these days, when Man City went down to the 3rd tier they topped records for attendances in that division. If Everton's attendances collapse when you go down the whole country is going to laugh at you and you'll have no sympathy from those "backwater shite towns" teams that you're pissing all over.

id like to think most people have better things to do than watch lower league hoofball. if youve got other hobbies you can escape atleast.

And then the FFP man comes knocking…

Imagine living in Liverpool and not even having your club to enjoy in the prem. I would kill myself too.

>their kids nowadays are supporting liverpool in spite of them supporting everton
This would be the straw that broke the camels back for me lmao

This is what he told me, and what I remember. If I have mistakes in it, not trying to be a dick or tell lies, just remembering what he said.
He said Italians didn't really travel much, so for the home games it was just what it was. But when you went away from home (so travelling to Italy) it would get pretty wild. Bear in mind there was tons of drinking and just being knobheads in a foreign country so the LFC fans ain't being angels here. They travelled to Roma (I remember or Napoli?) earlier in the season or season before. He said they would be walking down streets and kids on mopeds were spitting / throwing stuff then it escalated when they fought back. Teens on scooters were slashing at their legs as they went past and it just all started to escalate. 80% of fans then were young guys and kinda finding it a great adventure (this is before cheap flights etc). Some were just families and the Italian police were just not protecting them all all, laughing at them and just slapping them about. OK so on to Heysel. Basically lots of the LFC hooligans just wanted to get revenge. Belgium is super easy to travel to from the UK. Italians still don't travel welll in those days. LFC fans got fucking shitfaced early as they arrived early and there was running battles with Juve teens.