Disney is a monopoly that needs to be broken up
Disney is a monopoly that needs to be broken up
It's not a monopoly, retards just keep buying their bullshit and feeding it.
Why not just abolish IP and copyright?
This, but also their competition sucks. Fox had strong properties and failed. WB is flailing about. Universal is no one where near the juggernaut disney is in marketability. Paramount is just plain LOL. Sony is trying, but they'll never be disney.
>Disney / Fox
>Comcast / Universal
>AT&T / Warner Brothers
These are the last studios left. Paramount and Sony are doomed.
Kek, just wait until they buy WB.
Wouldn't matter now. Disney has people so loyal to them they were hating on an x-men movie they haven't seen just because it's not disney. Imagine anyone can make x-men movies, the disney ones will be hits, the others won't. Disney has people where they want them.
Disney sucks too, they get by on remakes and nostalgia bait from a time when movies weren't complete dogshit.
The others can do the same, or they can start making good movies.
Disney will surely run out of shit to reboot and remake and collapse at some point.
>being this delusional
people were hating because we knew how horrible it would be. And the "x-women" shit didn't help their cause.
>break up Disney and the other majors
>no one has the budget to make 200 million dollar films
>midbudget movies come back
>kino returns
What candidates are against monopolies?
>Fox had strong properties and failed
What happened there wasn't "failure"; more like Murdoch was tired, saw nobody who could inhereit his empire, so sold out to give his progeny that sweet Yidsney stock as inheritance instead.
WB is owned by a telecom
Chances are people like OP are telecom shills that would love to buy up disney since they're one of 3 or so that aren't owned by them
>Disney will surely run out of shit to reboot and remake and collapse at some point
You don't "get" how big & "diversified" Yidsney is in its holdings.
If every single Marvel & SW film utterly fucking tanked for the next 2 years they'd STILL be turning massive profits from merchandising, licensing, and their parks.
You really spend too much time here
we all can't be paid shills like you
No Democrats outside of Sanders and Gabbard would even approach that idea. The rest are corporate whores
Who am I shill for then?
I am OP and I advocate breaking up all major media companies and telecoms. I just said Disney in the OP because I figured it would get the most attention.
Well... I guess I’m a Sanders guy now
>Sanders and Gabbard aren't the "controlled opposition" of corporate whoredom
If they would then they aren't democrats, and the super delegates won't allow them to ever win any significant position.
In the most objective of terms no, they are not a monopoly yet, but it is heading that way. Technically they still have competition even though they currently own as much of the entertainment industry as all their competitors combined.
Super delegates are gone muchacho. Get with the times
Paramount is going to merge back into CBS and then CBS will probably merge with one of the smaller Telcos. I don't know what the fuck Sony is planning though. Maybe they're hoping they can make Sony Pictures valuable enough to get a buyer for it.
ok whatever, i dont watch movies really
Isn't Sony AMC too? Walking Dead, and Breaking bad and such?
>On August 25, 2018, the Democratic National Committee agreed to reduce the influence of superdelegates by generally preventing them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing their votes only in a contested nomination
intredasting
But I'm skeptical that they would just voluntarily give away their safety net unless they had another one to fall back on, particularly at a time where the voters are turning away from careerist, insider politicians
Not sure. If they are then they really should be trying to do more corporate synergy / integration like their competitors are doing. Sony Pictures has a shit ton of movie IP rights that they could be adapting to TV and streaming with AMC, and AMC should have some kind of integration with the Playstation streaming content.
They had to do SOMEthing to assuage the butthurt of fucking Bernie over in favor of Hillary, for her to derp her way into a loss & a Trump presidency.
>Sony Pictures has a shit ton of movie IP rights that they could be adapting to TV and streaming with AMC
In order for any of that to work they'd have to stop fucking literally butchering their adaptations into utter tanking failure.
There is literally nothing they have a monopoly on.
I dunno, maybe stop paying them and tell your wine aunt to stop buying shit from the disney store?
>being anti capitalism
anti free market commies fuck off
uh no
It's an oligopoly you dolts. And these occur naturally in free market economies.
Isn't that the problem of all the failing arms of the entertainment industry though? They can't just give the audience what they fucking what anymore. Everything has to have subvert expectations now and / or be "woke" for the Twitteratti. We've seen time and again that this is more likely to lose customer enthusiasm but they keep doing it because they are hellbent on shooting themselves to death in the foot.
Not technically, but it does own a huge amount of mainstream entertainment now. They have gotten too big
Courts have broken up companies as monopolies with a 50 percent market share. Disney is almost at 40 percent of the box office this year and they keep growing. In the next few years they could well be considered a monopoly.
I honestly am starting to think Yidsney purposely does the "woke" shit with its films, dumps a fuckload of cash into their box offices through bogus preorder ticket sales whose revenue primarily comes straight back to them, to make them look like huge successes, so competing companies follow suit thinking that's what works & eventually tanking themselves so Yidsney can but them out.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>success bad
And this is why communism will always be a failed ideology
Why the fuck am I supposed to care? They make a lot of movies that people like, that's a bad thing?
That's the will of the people, they choose to give them that power.
Stop buying their crap and they'll go away.
retard
5 shekels have been deposited into your account
For the year and a half I had movie pass I saw a movie every day. Maybe 5 days where I didn’t see a movie. I also traveled all the time for work so I saw movies in 40 some states in that time. Pretty much every theater I went to had sold way more tickets then there people there. It was weird. I’d go to the ticket kiosk, pick my seat, see that anywhere from a handful of tickets to nearly the whole theater was bought based on what seats were available, I’d go to the movie and nine times out of ten it would be nearly empty. Anywhere from a couple dozen people to just me in the theater. This happened for every movie from every studio. Every studio is pumping the numbers up, no question in my mind
Yes. They are literally the McDonalds of media and they lowering standards across the board and hurting a vital cultural institution of the world.
McDonald's is awesome. I can go to McDonald's pretty much anywhere in the world and I know what I'm in for.
not an argument
yes, schlock that makes you dumber, that's the antithesis of art, they are soulless corporate scum that must be destroyed. by the will of god, we will rout them out
True. You’re in for diarrhea
>it's shit but at least you can go anywhere in the world and buy the exact same quality of shit
Truly a brave new world.
>Why the fuck am I supposed to care?
Because he refuses to watch films without multi million marketing budgets. If it's not batman and robin fight bad guys #3432 or a flavor of the week horror movie then it's pretentious hipster bullshit
is this based?
If you don't like it, don't eat it you stupid faggot.
i have a pet theory Sony will keep announcing spiderverse flicks to boost their value to attract the mouse
creating a bunch of competing private companies which exist to make a profit is very much the polar opposite of communism
>dude, do you seriously eat McDonald's in 2019? what about pink slop?!?!
I don't give a shit about pink slop; I don't want to eat anything that costs $1 and was made by niggers & spics who couldn't work anywhere else & hate both their jobs and their lives. Asking for fucking trouble.
fortunately McDonald's is also available in countries that don't have niggers and spics. I'm sorry you live in a shithole
>based funimation and fathom grossing more than fox searchlight and amazon studios
contemporary artfags btfo
McDonald's is absolutely partisan. Go back to Subway you brittle vegan cuck.
If you're looking at this from a libertarian and democracy perspective, you should absolutely support the breakup of Disney.
Give consumers more choice. Don't force them to choose between 1-3 megacorp conglomerate providers of media. Give them thousands of different tiny companies to choose from.
ip and patents arent capitalism
>It's not real capitalism
Yes, and North Korea and USSR under Stalin weren't really communist either.
Get a new line.
They already have the choice of thousands of tiny companies, and they choose Disney, that's why Disney is so powerful.
Taking away Disney is forcing people to choose something other than Disney, that's not democratic or libertarian.
"Take your choice it's up to you"
"I want Disney shit"
"No, choose something else"
"I want marvel crap"
"n-no, something else"
>still watching movies made past 2008
Are you legitimately retarded?
What in the fuck does government intervention in the market have to do with capitalism?
Get a new brain.
This, muchly.
>They already have the choice of thousands of tiny companies, and they choose Disney, that's why Disney is so powerful.
No, the people didn't "choose" Disney, you imbecile.
Disney ruthlessly used their ties in the government and their army of lawyers and corporate spies to undemocratically and unethically drive away any semblance of competition in the entertainment industry.
They quite literally violated the 'non-aggression principle' you lolbert faggots always harp on about, but because they did it without wearing jackboots and military peaked caps, it's ok for some reason?
Get over yourself.
Muh dik
>What in the fuck does government intervention in the market have to do with capitalism?
It doesn't.
But it does have everything to do with creating a healthy and moral society.
Hollywood is the monopoly. After distribution and syndication, all the studios make money on every thing they put out.
Cinema, even art at large may be doomed. Luckily there'll probably be a race war soon.
Blah blah blah, Jews//pol/ thread.
Extremely based, Mcdonalds will feed us all one. Praise to the almighty Mcdonalds
>But it does have everything to do with creating a healthy and moral society.
no it doesn't
it just hurts society and the economy
>government is incapable of doing anything good
>government cannot ever produce great works of art
>government is eeeeeeeeevil because reasons
Build a highway yourself then.
Defend your homes from roving bands of Mad Max raiders yourself then without a trained state army to protect you. I'm sure it will be a blast.
Oh, do you also like Shakespeare's works and the great master paintings from Italian renaissance?
All commissions and funded by the government.
Yes, the greatest works of art in human history were CREATED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
How does it hurt society? I don’t care about GDP if it means people’s lives are shittier.
>>government is eeeeeeeeevil because reasons
Yes, there's countless reasons.
They have a monopoly on violence and create bureaucracy, stagnation and poverty.
>Defend your homes from roving bands of Mad Max raiders yourself then without a trained state army to protect you. I'm sure it will be a blast.
Bruh, when did I imply I was an anarchist.
I just said government intervention in the market is bad, and it is.
I don't care about GDP either, it's a bullshit metric.
I care about real economic production.
>if it means people’s lives are shittier.
Increases in economic production increases people's living standards by allowing them to consume more and work less.
>Yes, there's countless reasons.
When your country is filled with shitty and ignorant people, then expect them to elect shitty and ignorant assholes into office.
That's not the fault of government. Government doing bad things isn't a reason to be skeptical of it when the problem has more to do with the types of people living in your society.
For instance, many European and African nations have the same exact political systems and political structures.
Guess which places are worse anyways?
>they have a monopoly on violence
That is not intrinsically a bad thing and you know it.
It's not them simply having power that makes them evil. It's what they do with that power.
>create bureaucracy
Not intrinsically a bad thing.
>Poverty
I'm not sure where you live, but at least where I'm from, the poverty here is largely created by corporations that have made this place their base of operations and thus artificially and ruthlessly jacked up the general living costs of the city where I live.
Copyright is a government granted monopoly. A huge chunk of what they're currently profiting off is stuff that would have lapsed into public domain by now if Disney and other major corporations didn't keep lobbying to extend copyright.
>That's not the fault of government.
Yes it is lmao.
Government intervention needs to be minimized as much as possible.
>Not intrinsically a bad thing.
How?
It's harder for businesses to operate, thus economic production stagnates.
>thus artificially and ruthlessly jacked up the general living costs of the city where I live.
lmao imagine being this brainwashed
Yeah bro it's those evil corporations and not the central banking printing trillions of dollars.
Fucking gullible sheep.
There are millions of competitors you psycho.
No one is being forced to watch Disney movies.
Pull your head out of your ass and stop watching Disney movies.
This.
Except ip and patents are absolutely not free market, laissez-faire capitalism.
If it were public domain we'd get 50 different remakes of the Lion King instead of one.
Just stop watching the Lion King, how is this so hard for Ameriburgers?
>Government intervention needs to be minimized as much as possible.
Why?
>It's harder for businesses to operate, thus economic production stagnates.
Economic production =/= prosperity and good living conditions
>Yeah bro it's those evil corporations and not the central banking printing trillions of dollars.
I can assure you that the central bank has no impact on the cost of living expenses where I live.
Even if it did, the central bank is a capitalist institution where in theory, it can operate with little government interference.
>There are millions of competitors you psycho.
Objectively wrong, you fucking shill.
An independent film company operating from some kid's basement in rural Minnesota does not count as a legitimate competitor to Disney and you fucking know it.
Don't even try to be this disingenuous. There could be a billion film studios operating in america for all i care, but NOT ONE of them will ever make a dent on Disney before Disney buys them out or scares them away with their lawyer tricks
>No one is being forced to watch Disney movies.
Irrelevant.
Give people options. Don't simply present them with 1-3 megacorp companies to choose from and tell them to go fuck themselves if they don't like it.
>Pull your head out of your ass and stop watching Disney movies.
Nice projection there, buckaroo.
>the central bank is a capitalist institution
Good goy. Capitalism is all about being legally allowed to print as much paper (or, in this case, digital) money as you want and force people at gun point to use it (as all taxes must be paid in that currency).
>Why?
it hurts production and creates cartels
>Economic production =/= prosperity and good living conditions
it literally does
>I can assure you that the central bank has no impact on the cost of living expenses where I live.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy fuck you're actually this dumb.
The ENTIRE reason prices go up instead of going down is because the central bank inflates the money supply.
We would be having a healthy deflation if didn't have central banks.
>the central bank is a capitalist institution
No, it's government intervention.
>If it were public domain we'd get 50 different remakes of the Lion King instead of one.
Maybe but they'd all be eating the same pie so they wouldn't all be playing in cinemas. It'd be like the Brothers Grimm characters, mostly it'd be small time stuff with the occasional big adaptation that would try and find a new twist on the story. What Disney is doing right now is just making their own films again, but badly.
>NOT ONE of them will ever make a dent on Disney
Only because retards would rather watch Disney, If as many people wanted to watch your moms home pornos instead then that would crush Disney at the box office, the freedom of choice is there, no one is preventing any competition, Disney just wins every time until people get bored of their shit and Universal or Paramount pulls their finger out and takes over again.
>Irrelevant
It's not, it's literally the crux of the issue. People have options, They don't have to watch Disney, they don't have to watch any movies at all, but they choose to watch Disney because they gives them what they want right now. Take Disney off the table, everyone will go to the next bloated, mass-marketed, soulless, CGI remake flick and that company will become the new Disney, because that's what people are looking for.
It would be blocked
When was the last time courts did that? Like 1970? When we were still a white country?
Popping in without bothering to read the rest of the thread to say that you're right with all this greentext, but Disney still could be required to be broken up if they have a monopoly under some classical liberal/minarchist versions of antitrust. I'm not saying they have the requisite marketshare (there's a lot of places to watch movies and TV), but it's theoretically possible
Yes
Disney writes the laws. The laws say that Disney isn't a monopoly
No, my ability to watch a movie not made by Disney says Disney isn't a monopoly
>McDonald's is absolutely partisan
please enlighten me. whose side are they on?
not him but burger king is far leftist now
Warren literally proposed an entire platform for breaking up a bunch of giant corporations.
And Facebook shut her down and one of the mainstream newspapers threw a tantrum
>creating a healthy and moral society.
That is anti-capitalist.
Capitalism doesn't directly concern itself with either of those and taking those both into consideration can only hinder a private entity's ability to exchange whatever capital it demands for the goods and services it provides, its literally like you don't want private pharmaceutical companies to have the ability to charge a month's salary for a weeks worth of life saving medicine you communist pig.
DISNEY IS GAY AND WOMEN BELONG IN THE KITCHEN
>Build a highway yourself then.
That is how the first highways were built until the government started using imminent domain to create a highway grid and regulation mesh that would prevent any private entitity from building anything but basic driveways, parking lots, and side streets.
>Defend your homes from roving bands of
>implying the government has been effective at all in preventing roving bands of homeless immigrants from storming the borders for the past 50 years.
based ancap poster
sony don't care
>Why the fuck am I supposed to care?
antitrust laws don't take that into account
>t. doesn't know what a monopoly is
No, other studios just need to stop being shit. WB has enough big name IPs to compete but it's mismanged. Paramount and Sony will never be as high as those two but there's no excuse for how terrible they are
we the people
Disney is a globalist socialist propaganda entity which should be broken up, yes.
That kind of worked with Fox although they had a much bigger collection of assets than just X-Men. While Disney is a very likely suitor for a Sony buyout I don't think they need them. Disney and Fox were never going to work together unless there was a buyout, and Fox used their Marvel assets as leverage to get a good deal, along with the Avatar franchise which Disney was already heavily invested in.
Meanwhile Marvel has always had a good relationship with Sony, with the possible exception being the ASM movies which I don't think they were too happy with. The entire MCU is basically Marvel copying Spider-Man 2 so there's not a sense of "we need to buy them out so we can take back our property" like the was with Fox and X-Men. They're willing to collaborate with Sony and they didn't need to buy them out to get what they wanted.
HIGH IQ STATEMENT
There's not a chance in hell of that happening now
The US needs to keep imperialistically exporting its liberal capitalism.
>warren
>actually having a chance at election
>without a trained state army to protect you
The army doesn't protect your home, local law enforcement kind of does, but only if something gets stolen (they can only react to vandalism after the fact and can't do anything to compensate you) and only if they can find out who stole it, successfully prosecute them, and recover the object or get them to agree to and follow through with some sort of compensation for your loss which is pretty rare.
In reality, private insurance is who most people rely on to protect their home and cars from damages or compensate them for theft.
>MARVEL-DC CINEMATIC MULTIVERSE: PHASE 23
WONDER WOMEN: GODDESS SHIELD
AMERICA CHAVEZ 3: DIA DE LOS MENSTROS
SPIDERMAN: I JUST WANNA GO HOME
DOCTOR STRANGE AND THE INFINITE BACKROOMS
THE JOKER 4: AFK
Consumer's have a shit load of choice at the cinema. They choose Disney because the other big studios are all shit right now . Literally the only big win this year outside of Disney is going to be IT2 and maybe Joker
>MUH POCAHONTAS
You know she's not actually running on that despite what your wcho chamber says?
Movies are basically a vanity project for Sony right now. They can afford to keep throwing their spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks because they're a giant conglomerate with fingers in even more pies than Disney.
You say that as if Gabbard has a chance and the DNC hasn't already demonstrated they will do whatever it takes to screw Sanders out of a nomination given he is actually an independent using the DNC as a springboard since independent parties don't stand a chance.
>That's the will of the people, they choose to give them that power.
so were hitler and the nazis
yet people cant stop crying about them
What? She a fucking shrew. She’s like your insane Oedipal mother screaming at you to wash your penis or she’ll fucking destroy the whole world.
>people cant stop crying about them
they never learn
based
Especially considering it had nothing to do with the people's will given Hitler was never elected due to being an Austrian rather than German citizen and the nazis never had a majority in the Reichstag until it was burned down, he was appointed as chancellor, and used the Night of Long Knives to eliminate much of the competition and eventually seize control as a dictator.
It's EMINENT domain retard
>insane Oedipal mother
>If every single Marvel & SW film utterly fucking tanked for the next 2 years they'd STILL be turning massive profits from merchandising, licensing, and their parks.
Yeah just like the new SW park that has no clients in the middle of summer? or those SW peg warmer that no kid wants to buy?