They convinced him he was crazy because he was a liability, knowing what he knew at the time.
The 'rule of 4' is stating the methodology that the staff uses. They have performed this 'trick' before, with others, which is also alluded to multiple times within the movie. They take an actual assailant, a pretend victim, and replace them with the person visiting and an actual victim.
The 67th patient is simply the person brought in to 'investigate' the crime, or to play in a charade.
The biggest tell is when he is in the room of the person whose note was in this room (that the warden wanted to take very badly). Leonardo Decaprio notices that the woman mistakes him for her husband.
Clearly they have done this procedure before on her, which is why she knows about it.
Thanks detective. It also makes the twist better considering its hinted he is the patient with 40 minutes of film left
Benjamin Gutierrez
I think Shutter Island is a really good movie.
Cooper James
Everyone seems to think he was an actual patient
Levi Bell
I think it's a lot more fun to view it as the mental hospital is keeping him as another patient both the teddy theory and the andrew theory have their flaws but also make sense as well
Nolan King
What's your thoughts on the invisible glass of water, detective?
Hudson Hernandez
Yeah exactly. I thought that he was actual patient like () as well.
It certainly is a fringe theory, BUT it does make the movie a little better. You all have homework to do, you must watch the movie with this in mind. Pay attention to all the key details, like the fact that a doctor was in a cave telling him not to smoke the cigarettes, that his partner was really trying to help him figure out what was going on in the entire island, or how they are leading him away to lobotomize him at the very end, something continually alluded to throughout the film.
Zachary Kelly
How?
Austin Watson
Please note: after smoking the cigarettes and drinking the water, as explained by the doctor who lives along the perimeter in caves, he really does start to hallucinate and see things: that's the trick.
Luis Roberts
This movie disturbed me greatly.
When i was young i found my brother drowned at the bottom of a lake. The drowning scene with leonardo brought flashbacks
Camden Reed
Scorsese makes it so obvious I like to think Leo and the audience was drugged into believing he isn't Teddy.
Owen Cruz
That's fucked up user, condolences
Jacob Moore
Sorry, I meant to say 'swallowing the pills with the water'. There's nothing inherently drugged in the water supply.
Now there are some other inconsistencies as well. Like for instance, why does the doctor warden claim that Teddy's car is his? How is this possible? Teddy's tie, something that he kept as a memorabilia, was in the glove box. This is also very important.
Not only this, but there must be a motive for this: the hallmark of the movie is that he was a WWII veteran. Why on earth did it seem like he killed Susan's children? What kind of operatives were working here? Did they have some motives for revenge against Teddy?
These sorts of things must be examined, as it could always be the case that the original troop he was part of was systematically interned as a sort of post-humous revenge for their friends and family.
Just a thought.
Levi Rivera
That's why shutter island is kino. A lot of shit going on underneath it and the mood is comfy
Dominic Hall
im sorry to tell u user, you didnt have a brother, it was YOU who drowned.
Exactly! This movie deserves some thought indeed, as there is clearly something behind the scenes that is not explained.
But that note is KEY. I think the rule of 4 is as I have described, but the answer to 'who is 67' I might need some assistance on, I don't think it's as simple as I describe.
For instance, think about this, the two groups of patients are 24 and 42, the sum being 66. This idea is stated once in the film. The problem is, there must be a 67th patient, but why? Where is this 67th patient housed? There is no room for him. How do they have such a revolving door of patients?
Anthony Flores
Isn't that the question of the day
Elijah Reyes
Leonardo has been type casted for old times characters hasn't he?
Bentley Flores
>a lot of people say that the movie is hard to understand and had to watch it twice >they literally explain the whole movie like three times at the end
Jason James
>movies that are spooky and comfy at the same time
based
Gavin Rogers
>When i was young i found my brother drowned at the bottom of a lake was the lake deep? how were you able to see him
Zachary Edwards
>He accepts that Teddy was crazy theory Sigh. Why do we let simpletons watch kino
Alexander Anderson
I don't, he just wanted to end it all and that's why he accepted the lobotomy
Xavier Butler
Why do people obsess over finding out the "real" answer to deliberately ambiguous plots in movies? The writer, director and editor usually worked tirelessly to remove any certainty for this precise reason. The point isn't to leave you guessing, it's to direct your attention towards what actually matters i.e. the relationships between the characters.
Carson Mitchell
Sure, honestly the movie was fine, I just don't.. realllllly... give a fuck if the twist was real or not. I just can't be fucked to care.
Adrian Gonzalez
what are you trying to say? that he was NAWT A CAWP?
Jeremiah Adams
No, I'm trying to say that actually he was. After all, they were on a fucking BOAT at the beginning of the movie.
Somehow I don't believe that was Scorsese's intention: to make a completely vague and equivocal movie.
Xavier Cook
movie fucking sucks
It was flawed to begin with. He was either crazy, or he wasn't......or there was something paranormal. And the dream sequences and hallucinations were not done right at all.
