If you're the devil why not make those straps disappear?

Is the book worth reading? How different is it? This is my 3rd favourite movie of all time so I'm kind of curious

Creepiest scene in the movie imo, unsettling as fuck

Pazuzu did not like the Pantera album or something.

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Yes. The audiobook is more chilling than the movie tbqh. The chapters with the demon go on forever and it never stops taunting, it's kind of disorienting.
Karras is also less sympathetic than his movie portrayal. He starts out as a passive aggressive asshole and gradually becomes humbled.

*traps

any idea where I can get it for free I'm insanely broke right now

nvm just signed up for a free audible month and got it

youtube.com/watch?v=nY7XOxDq4Gc

what's so scary about this?

>There were reports of heart attacks and miscarriages; a psychiatric journal carried a paper on "cinematic neurosis" triggered by the film.
what the fuck, it's just a fucking movie, how?

People couldn't figure out how such a picture could be made, or why anyone would make it. It was the first film that really made people think about the implications of being exposed to such content.

Can we unironically discuss the significance/semiology of stairs throughout the film? The steps outside the house are the obvious thing, but it's all over. There's a pretty obvious heaven/hell thing to them, but I proceed:

-Dimmi's mom going up and down the subway stairs (possibly into hell)
-Regan's crab-walk coming down the stairs (again, descent into hell)
-Karras going up the very impressive, well-appointed staircase inside the diocese to ask permission to perform the exorcism
-medium shot: Karras going up the house staircase one last time (as if to heaven) to become the actual, titular character

There lots more. The ladder/stair into the attic gets the ball rolling(aerial aspect of Pazuzu), that staircase that Chris stands on for her movie scene (worldly power), and so on.

it's not nice to be restrained by straps.

YOUR CUNTING DAUGHTER?

Because what's the fun in that? It's a demon. It gets off on misery. It's enjoying a veritable banquet of it right where it is. Later on, it *does* display more power, and it does so to shake the faith of the priests.

how was this dude still skeptical at this point her eyes were literally fucking yellow and she had the voice of a chain smoking trucker

You pretty much nailed it, in my opinion. The thing is that stairways are a liminal space and imply passage.

it was a homodemon claiming to be the devil. He didn't have that much power. That particular homodemon is strengthened by homosexual marriage and child drag show.

Is Karras the best horror protag

did the demon really twist the head for 360? how did it not kill regan

>I much prefer Cowboys From Hell, KARRAS.

Linda Blair was so hot in Exorcist 2

>the devil
Pazuzu is an arrogant demon, nothing more. He has some power, for sure, but he's far from Lucifer

It wasn't Pazuzu, it was Lamashtu. Pazuzu is invoked for protection against Lamashtu, but he's a demon himself, hence the line "evil against evil" It's a lot more subtle in the film than the novel.

Noice

is it just me or do lines randomly get repeated three times

That would be much too vulgar display of power, OP

Checked and yes. No only the best horror ever made it's a good drama about god, atheistfags will never understand

While we're on the topic, I'll reach just a bit. The second floor of the house has an interesting mezzanine space, with just a couple extra steps before Regan's room. I suggest that this space, then, is Limbo/purgatory, or something like that. The beams on Regan's door also form a very simple christian cross (which rhymes with the cross held across the mezzanine/balcony, in the same space, by Chris toward Karl-she wants to know who's been planting shit under her daughter's pillow.)

While we're at it-who did put that cross under the pillow? One of the help? A party-goer (I forget timing here)? God himself?

One other duller example: Karras jogging/walking around stairs in exterior shots is just prosaic, everyday life.

>too vulgar display of power
>a few scenes prior, it makes shit fly around her room and twists her head 180 degrees
what did he mean by this

The demon is clearly inducing hallucinations at certain points, in addition to manifesting real physical phenomena. The head-twisting (both instances of it) can be reasonably explained away as mere hallucination.

When the detective shows up at the house, the cross is seen lying on the table. After he leaves, Chris returns to the kitchen and the cross is gone. Which means regan went down and snatched it while she was escorting him out.
One of those little details you don't notice until further inspection.

the scenes with Father Carasas' mother are scarier than any of the demon possession stuff

underrated

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Thanks for recommending this. I've never heard Blatty's voice before but his reading is great. I read maybe half the book a decade ago but never finished it so this is good shit.

6:00:00
Karras meets Regan

It's a bone burning slow chill

Does it have jumpscares though?

it's got this spooky boy and the movie cuts to him making scary faces with no warning

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is it just me or do lines randomly get repeated three times

I'm preeeeeetty darn sure that that scene happens AFTER the confrontation with Karl, so in this case the timing is a moot point. The confrontation with Karl is (IIRC) while the daughter is starting to be oppressed, but not full-on possessed (which is why Chris is on edge but not distraught yet). She finds the cross, confronts Karl about it, and the thing kicks around the house for a day or two. Then it is (IIRC) sitting on the ledge as the inspector leaves, and then Regan immediately screams bloody murder and it's full-on possession DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE DID YOU CUNTING DAUGHTER. Now Chris is in some real shit.

That's not a spooky boy, it's a spooky woman in makeup. Likewise Pazuzu's voice is an old woman as well. Part of a long history of androgyny played for horror effect in films.

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Did Reagan do the thing in the church at the beginning?

I thought it was satanists in the area? Who knows

It does have multiple proper jumpscares together with the longer-burn, just looking-at-it type metaphysical horror (terror?).

There's even the early first-act "harmless" jump-scare, when Chris goes into the attic. Now that I think about it, the timing, tropes and exact nature of contemporary jumpscares themselves would seem to owe a significant debt to how they were employed in The Exorcist, for good or ill.

This is another good question and it's parallel to my "who put the cross" thing (is any of this addressed in the novel?) The detective vaguely speculates to Karras that it might have been some local satanist kooks, but he's really fishing for any information/slip-ups that Karras might have about the murder, and also probing for relationship between the crimes.

The Mary statue? I'm pretty sure that was the gemini killer

The book mentions how much Regan likes to sculpt things in clay, and when the priest or whoever tells the party about what happened he specifically mentions that the dick put on the statue was made out of clay. Then again who knows. "Heavily hinted at" as dorks would say.

YOU'RE NOT MY MOTHER!!!

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Out. Now. Leave the demon to me.

My father recently went to hospital for heart trouble, and now he takes nitroglycerin. When I visited, I noticed how extremely small the pills were, and I immediately remembered the scene where Merrin takes his little bitty tiny pills of nitro. I mentioned this to dad for context.

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Stairs scene really fucked me up the first time i saw this tho, for some reason

interdasting, i did not know that. I can see it now

Did Merrin know he was going to die?

why'd that little girl get that demon inside?

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left the window open

It was very obviously near the front of his mind, but he's a GOD WARRIOR so he can't be that fucked about it. I figure he'd try to come out alive but if not ah well. As long as he goes down fighting and doing right he's fine. Didn't one of the bishops say the last one "damn near killed him" or similar?

Or can (they)? Karras regains control of himself and hurls himself out the window, DOWN the stairs (toward hell) He has recently lost faith. Is this suicide? Does he burn? Is he saved? (we would certainly like to think so at this point, provided he hasn't taken any liberties with any children).

No, that's still Ash.

Karras: "It doesn't make any sense. Why us? Why this girl?"

Merrin: "I think the point is to make us despair. To see ourselves as animal and ugly. To reject the possibility that God could ever love us."

Also the mother/family are irreligious/unchurched and so the demon sees a nice place to nest. This is also one of the big instances of "atheist/secular family has a kid possessed by a demon", a trope done again in the Amityville movies, Poltergeist and The Conjuring, bet there's others.

I think his soul went to purgatory for cleansing. He blasphemed before the demon possessed him, and he did kill himself, but it was ultimately a sacrificial act. Laying down your life is supposed to be the highest good.
He's a redemptive character.

Isn't this unfinished it's only 10 hours

What about Karras falling down the stairs

is it just me or do lines randomly get repeated three times

I'm atheist and it's in my top 5 films

This has just been taken up in the most recent posts and . I like the purgatory suggestion that the other user suggested-fucker goes through all that and he's stuck in the waiting-room.

The dramatic arc of the film certainly suggests that Karras should go straight to heaven, from the right-thinking audience point of view. But this happy/conventional read on things is at odds with his final descent down the stairs (descent down stairs is a metaphor for going to hell, as I've suggested earlier). So the metaphor is now athwart what we (I) would like to believe about the character. The user's suggestion of purgatory makes sense here.

I like how the demon namedrops Herod Antipas.

what would purgatory entail though? Is he there forever or is it literally a waiting room to think about his life as a whole, where he will ascend at the end of his meditation thing?

What the fuck was his problem?

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jewish

shame about the rest of the movie
YIKES

The demon inhabiting Regan is Lamashtu. Pazuzu is her rival. There's a spiritual battle going on.

Is it just me or do lines randomly get repeated three times

I'm neither catholic nor christian nor a theologian, I'm just playing with the ideas as an intellectual exercise. One thing I do know is that at the end of Aquinas' Summa, he has a few very short articles which treat purgatory a bit (I should read those).

>At the edge of his dreams, there was often a sound like the faint, distant cry of someone in distress, and for minutes after waking, he would feel the anxiety of some duty unfulfilled.

I watched it a few months back and got some enjoyment out of it, it had been built up to be so bad in my head, that I was fine with what I got. The "mental" stuff was a bit like a seance, and the exterior shots on top of tall buildings was also neat. It goes all weird/dreamlike in the transition from second to third act, but that's the point too.

>Regan had the physical syndrome of possession. That much he knew. Of that he had no doubt. For in case after case, irrespective of geography or period of history, the symptoms of possession were substantially constant. Some Regan had not evidenced as yet: stigmata; the desire for repugnant foods; the insensitivity to pain; the frequent loud and irrepressible hiccuping. But the others she had manifest clearly: the involuntary motor excitement; foul breath; furred tongue; the wasting away of the frame; the distended stomach; the irritations of the skin and mucous membrane. And most significantly present were the basic symptoms of the hard core of cases which Oesterreich had characterized as genuine possession: the striking change in the voice and the features, plus the manifestation of a new personality.

exorcist 3 any good?

idk but the prequel was ok,their was a completely different cut that never got released though, shame

Exorcist 3 became known to normies/reddit about a decade ago for having several "undiscovered" redeeming qualities. Exorcist 2 was such a letdown for audiences that no one really gave Exorcist 3 a change, but the latter has been rehabilitated as a worthwhile B-movie with some fun scares.

it's real

If we're talking exorcist, The last exorcism is underrated

emily rose is better

the latter

user, that's four times. You gotta delete one.

It didn't want to give the priest anything concrete to warrant an exorcism.

can't believe that fgt fucked it up

That’s the closest any film got to capturing a nightmare. The vibe was too real.

But it said that it wanted an exorcism! Who's playing who? or is he just mixing the lies with the truth for fun?!

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the ambient noise of Karras' breathing/sleeping noises is what makes it-his brain is active enough to dream, and for him to remember his dream. This goes well with the early morning hours (the witching hour?), the most productive time for dreams.

You should be more worried with why did Reagan freak out when hit with normal water?

The demon was taunting Karras about his lack of faith.

>You see, the trouble with the signs in the sky, my dear morsel, is that once having seen them, one has no excuse. Have you noticed how few miracles one hears about lately? Not our fault, Karras. Don't blame us. We try.

stop this

>The last exorcism
its really good but shit ending

hey guys whats going on

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It's clear that you've read the novel, clearly I should see about it too since it isn't that long.

My late grandma had a copy on her second floor for years, I noticed it more than once with the greepy alien-grey thing on it. She once said that while reading the thing, she flipped out and threw the book against the wall.

Dimi, Dimi!

I watch this movie every year and feel like I see something new.

Better in the book

>"But a charitable act," said Karras, "is a virtue and that's what the devil would want to prevent; so in fact I'd be helping you now if I didn't undo the straps. Unless, of course"--- he shrugged---"you're really not really the devil. And in that case, perhaps I would undo the straps."

>"How very foxy of you, Karras. If only dear Herod were here to enjoy this."

>"Which Herod?" asked Karras with narrowed eyes. Was she punning on Christ's calling Herod "that fox"? "There were two. Are you talking about the King of Judea?"

>"The tetrarch of Galilee!" she blasted him with anger and scorching contempt

I have this with my favorite film too (Alien).

A ginger Regan slithering around on the floor like a snake would have looked great

>"The tetrarch of Galilee!" she blasted him with anger and scorching contempt

lmfaoo seething

wow, a good thread on Yea Forums, who would have thunk?

I’d say it’s worth a watch just to get in the head of Jeffrey Dahmer, he loved that movie and would show it to his victims before he killed them because he thought he was gaining power from being evil. He would also put yellow contacts in when he went looking for victims.

Ruins the ending of 1

He had bad taste, The exorcist > exorcist 3

Because bullying demons is fun.

You’re exactly right. Reminds me of the time I gave myself sleep paralysis and a horrible nightmare.

Is Pazuzu ever mentioned in the book, or is that a product of Exorcist 2?

youtube.com/watch?v=zH8ynu0jRvY

Underrated kino

Because a demon will want to manifest its power to psychologically torture everyone it meets, not for some Houdini shit.

TO FUCK WITH YA, CHARLES

billy graham said the devil was in every frame of this movie. I'm not a religious person but there is something off about this film, it captures the essence of evil in a way no other movie has replicated imo.

Checked and scared

wtf

>666

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GET
OUT

Spooked

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*extremely loud Tubular Bells video with an image of a creepy horror girl dabbing*

There's also plenty of God in the film too. You reckon God still let karras in even knowing he killed himself?

This thread is officially cursed

wtf

eh fuck off satan

>REAGAN WOULD YOU CLOSE THE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR?!

checked

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Linda was hot everywhere
Shame about her career not existing tho

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Moar

thanks for reminding me about tubular bells and oldfield

Is there a child actress Hollywood hasn't corrupted

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All women are whores.

Because there's no fun in gross displays of power. The real amusement comes from exploiting the personal weaknesses of humans in order to bend them to my will.

user, I...

you have to go back

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she doesn't look hot here

Bcs little girls are hot as hell

Brad Dourif’s performance is great

Neat!

okay then post 10 random frames and we find the devil

This sounds fun but you do it.

it was a different time back then user

Okay so you're not the devil, gotcha

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I always really liked the movie because Regan's later appearence is one of the very few things I find genuinely unsettling to look at. Her make-up is something that, at least to me, doesn't need any specific atmosphere or setting to scare me - I could see it in broad daylight and it would still be scary to me.
I'm genuinely curious just what it is about it that causes this effect. Perhaps it's because it doesn't look too overdone and thus seems very realistic? I don't know, but I'd really like to know.

shit

it's just fukken creepy

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It's the only horror movie that I liked. Funny, cos I fucking hate the entire horror genre in an of itself. So yea, I guess you can say it's cursed.

I fucking love that album

your mother's in here karras

I much prefer Exorcist IV: Electric Pazuzuloo.

I think the yellow eyes add to it. In one of the makeup photos she didn't have them and looked way less frightening.