>“What white people have to do is try and find out in their own hearts why it was necessary to have a nigger in the first place, because I’m not a nigger, I’m a man, but if you think I’m a nigger, it means you need it… If I’m not a nigger and you invented him -- you, the white people, invented him -- then you’ve got to find out why. And the future of the country depends on that, whether or not it’s able to ask that question.”
What did he mean by this?
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he meant that the archetype of the nigger as perceived by white people was an invention
Some useless post modern pyscobabble. People can, and have, tricked the journal system with bogus papers that say all the correct things but are in fact complete nonsense.
>en.wikipedia.org
naw, u my negro.
Was he correct in that assertion?
depends on what you believe the archetype of the nigger to actually represent. he didn't believe himself to be a nigger, so he was right in the sense of his personal self-understanding.
It seems like he’s invoking the Hegelian Dialectic- in this case white people are the master and the idea of the “nigger” is the slave.
Lol postmodernism is so retarded
No, the "nigger" isn't an invention. Black people do actually exist. People notice things and via a broad cultural consensus build up though decentralized information gathering create archetypes, stereotypes, etc. There was some study in the 70's on stereotypes that found most had truth to them. No committee ever got together and "invented" negroes.
Ehhh. He’s not making a bad point, but countless cultures and civilisations have had slave casts or ‘niggers’. It’s not a white man problem, it’s a human problem.
>Neva thought I'd be finna die side by side wit a nigger
>How bout wit yo nigga?
>Tch, aight
You see, intellectually, now, intellectually, it is not I who sucked dick for some crack, no, rather it was the evil white man.
But Baldwin wrote this during the mid 1970s, about 20 years before the first Sokal affair and the Science Wars, and 40 years before the Grievance Studies affair. Also, the written works that this is based on weren't intended to be journal-published or even accepted. The stuff he wrote for journals in the 1950s wasn't intending to be empirical sociology, at any rate.
So how seriously should I take it? Should I just regard it as some guy's opinion?
please don't use privileged, non-sneed language on this board thank you
first a Terrance howard thread then a Donald glover thread now this guy
am i retarded? i read this over three or four times and it still makes absolutely no sense to me. does it make more sense with context
*edit because i am faggot that sleeps 4 hours.
A black person being the n-word all depends on how he or she chooses to live. I have no need from them, like I have no need for trash of any race.
How is it that blacks are being executed by cops yet still fill up the prisons
Because like spic they reproduce like rabbits despite being poor as shit.
top kek, it's not about a committee you massive simpleton, it's about a vast number of people in different industries creating a stereotype based on anecdotal evidence (at best). it has nothing to do with empirical rigor, and the study you posted is so hilariously bad that i'll let you believe it is relevant enough to continue to consider it as evidence.
brands, banking institution, propagandists, television, radio, and even black people themselves perpetuated a lot of these stereotypes. but without a doubt, as white americans (primarily WASPS) held all the resources and centers of information (the press, advertising et al.), they were chiefly responsible for this propagation of stereotypes aka "white people invented [the nigger]"
it's very simple, you just like to hate black people. don't you have a school to shoot up bruv?
make up your own fucking mind, jesus. why are poeple so fucking needy and desperate for leadership, not just de jure or de facto, but personal as well? fucking brainlets
Uhh Jewish slave owners did most of the trading someone tell this coon that
Scientific realism has some real flaws though that need to be phenomenologically antagonised and investigated within traditions of philosophy of science (Kuhn, Feyeraband, Popper) to successfully reformulate the ostensible empiricism of the scientific method through empirical falsification, deconstruction and critical rationalism. In many cases, for a good run of the reign of logical positivism in the 20th century, logical models of pure science were not actually applicable to actual scientific practice, and knowledge production experienced an ontological hiccup by the advent of the neoliberal world. At the end of the Cold War, military funding of science declined, while funding agencies demanded accountability, and research became directed by private interests. It has been argued that poststructuralism and critical theory were convenient scapegoats who diverted attention from problems in science. People like Deleuze were framed as 'anti-scientific', which is insane to anyone who's actually read Deleuze, as he adopts and embraces a myriad of scientific discoveries and ideas, while never actually holding to positivist or empirical principles, and not claiming any objectivity either. The Sokal affair was essentially a practical joke by two autistic STEMcels that completely misunderstood the function of the humanities in a philosophical sense - to provide context for heuristic methods and to continually actuate further standards of understanding and objectivity. Look at the state of popular science now - completely divested of any philosophical challenges, it is easily co-opted by private interests, which individuate it away from any holistic framework and operate it for profit. That's how you have retards like Dawkins and Tyson, both scientific rationalists, as the main voices of popular science, as the supposed public spokesmen for the scientific community. Post-structuralism was attempting to protect analytical science from intellectual divestiture.
>it's about a vast number of people in different industries creating a stereotype based on anecdotal evidence (at best)
Sorry to break it to you, but there is no vast anti-black conspiracy.
>t has nothing to do with empirical rigor, and the study you posted is so hilariously bad that i'll let you believe it is relevant enough to continue to consider it as evidence.
Nice handwaving.
>brands, banking institution, propagandists, television, radio, and even black people themselves perpetuated a lot of these stereotypes.
Wrong again, people are just responding to what they see. There are no banks, there is no "banking industry". There are only individuals collecting information piecmeal.
any weight is afforded by how much you lend to the opinions of others. baldwin has the experience of being called a fag and a nigger in the industrial northeast during the mid-20th century, so place that in the wider multiplicity of other people's experiences
>held all the resources and centers of information (the press, advertising et al.)
>(primarily WASPS)
pick one retard
>you just like to hate black people
yeah i usually hate badly behaved people with high levels of criminal tendency . most people do
sure, but in the case of America in the 1950s-60s, it was an issue between the white man and the black man
Why is pic related so butthurt about blacks?
Staitistically makes no sense. Were 2 million slaves in the South in 1861 vs. 5,000 Jews. So even if every single Jewish household owned slaves it'd be thousands of slaves each
>there is no "banking industry"
damn...
probably something to do with all the theft, assault, rape and murder
the dayton shooter looks like he'd be fun to hang out with
that DUI graph is misleading as hell
>black intellectuals
>Jewish slave owners did most of the trading
>trading
>So even if every single Jewish household owned slaves it'd be thousands of slaves each
>owned
What (((they))) owned were ships/routs rights/whatever, they SOLD the slaves, and probably USED them as too.
*Dawkins and Tyson, both scientific realists
>jews owned all the slave ships
>and the routes of the triangle trade
hmm. lets see the historiography on this one champ
>empirical
>sociology
Pick one
Based rational poster
Why are black people more likely to be violent due to their genetics then?
This is actually a pretty good example of why post modernism shouldn't be taken seriously(and to a good degree isn't). A giant wall of text meant to obfuscate and shut down any potential critics. Whenever you call out post modernists they just say "you don't understand 'true' post modernism" and throw a lot of needlessly complicated but smart sounding essays at you. Regarding philosophers of science, unless you're an epistemological anarchist, post modernism is useless.
Guess what if niggers could stop being niggers they would. Fuck niggers and fuck you.
Black people can say literally anything regarding race and white liberals will think it's the most profound thing ever.
lol no. Imagine trying to reinvent the Chinese as the "new niggers".
It is of course possible to make observations and formulate concomitant hypotheses and wider theoretical frameworks about society and human behavioural tendencies whilst holding to high standards of heuristic rigour and empiricism. Economics, for example, is a social science. So is almost all of anthropology. Baldwin, as a novelist and a playwright, and not a scientist, wasn't attempting to do that.
>Sorry to break it to you, but there is no vast anti-black conspiracy.
missed the point altogether. there are many compilations of many different brands using black stereotypes as their brand mascots. if you want to deny that because it goes against your narrative you are more than free to do so, nothing wrong with having your head up your ass. it's a free world man!
>Nice handwaving.
your study is trash, deal with it
>Wrong again, people are just responding to what they see. There are no banks, there is no "banking industry". There are only individuals collecting information piecmeal.
let me break down your stupidity easily:
>people respond to what they see
thanks for confirming that this is all based on anecdotal evidence with no empiricism or logic involved!
>there are no banks
lmao, really bruv? you gotta move the goalposts THAT far to have a point?
>no banking industry
this is just plain delusion.
>individuals
yes, who then agree with each other, make plans, decisions, spend money, and contribute to commerce and society. it's not about "MUH INDIVIDUALS" you gigantic faggot
>pick one
why? they're both responsible, the issue has evolved over time. if you'd like me to peak about a particular DECADE then it's a bit more specific. a particular YEAR, then even more so. the degree of specificity is down to what time span we refer to. in general? "white" americans of all backgrounds have had members of their community contribute to racism. and that includes a lot of ethnic/national backgrounds.
>muh masked racism
if you want to hate black people just be open about it you fucking kike, stop being a little faggot and masquerading it with confirmation bias and statistics with no context.
based drunk driving nigger spic
>it's about a vast number of people in different industries creating a stereotype based on anecdotal evidence
Is the exact same thing I said here> People notice things and via a broad cultural consensus build up though decentralized information gathering create archetypes, stereotypes, etc.
Glad you agree with me.
based
>sociology
>predictive validity
Pick one.
>Why are black people more likely to be violent due to their genetics then?
a) you are assuming this to "be the case" then providing no supporting evidence nor an explanation of the evidence. i hope it's fun being racist desu lads, that's a lot of time wasted on perpetuating your own stupidity.
He's wrong. He's trying his hardest to sound educated and thoughtful but he's thoroughly full of shit.
Yes and no at the same time.
The nigger whites refer to in america are ghetto trash who behave in unacceptable and dishonest ways, too bad said niggers think acting like that is part of their "culture" when its litterally the lack of one, poor people culture is the reason they are hated all around, its a mentality that stretches beyond simply not having money, its that attitude of knowing a friend who steals and still allowing him to socialize with you and your family, its the feeling of littering your own street because "not giving a fuck" is somehow a virtue (shared by the entire ghetto hence why its a trash to begin with) poor people in my country act the same way and they aren't blacks, the same attitude is common on the worst neibors, yet if you go to the south (coincidentally where its colder) poor people there behave in a more civilized way (majority white but there are blacks there who also behave politely) In conclusion, in america the mistake is from both parties, one for thinking niggers come from the womb with criminal tendencies the other for believing the same myth thus confirming it, a big ball of mistakes being memed ahead by generations of dummies, it cannot be fixed simply by preventing whites from saying it (because it will just go on unspoken yet still believed) it must be corrected on the (ghetto) blacks part by education and proper parenting (and you know how thats going so far)
they can, it's not their fault whites don't want them to. it's not about "muh hwite man keeping me down", those who parrot that should know better and have ways to move upward in society, but, sadly, that statement is just a product of capitalist branding, resulting from the need to placate peacefully. just like the hippie movement.
Haha, I'm not a 'post-modernist'. What exactly were the issues with what I wrote? I don't want to shut anyone down. If you think that's needlessly complicated, I'll simplify what I meant for you - the scientific tradition and method only exist because of philosophy, philosophy of science is necessary to make sure science actually holds to epistemological principles, rational and good-faith critique of said principles is constructive and necessary, and post-structuralism was an immensely broad church that defies totalisation.
>black people themselves perpetuated a lot of these stereotypes.
So the problem is not them being it, the problem is others calling them for it? you are not making sense bro
>missed the point altogether. there are many compilations of many different brands using black stereotypes as their brand mascots.
Actually they are just appealing to black consumers.
>your study is trash, deal with it
Why? You can't just say that.
>thanks for confirming that this is all based on anecdotal evidence with no empiricism or logic involved!
Anecdotes are empirical. They're literally just observations.
>lmao, really bruv? you gotta move the goalposts THAT far to have a point?
It's true. Banks, and all firms, are just a legal fiction. There are only people.
>this is just plain delusion.
Nope, the banking industry is a social construct.
>yes, who then agree with each other, make plans, decisions, spend money, and contribute to commerce and society. it's not about "MUH INDIVIDUALS" you gigantic faggot
It is though.
>if you want to hate black people just be open about it you fucking kike
i'd love to but people who say mean (factual) things about niggers get publicly shamed and often lose their livelihoods
>statistics with no context.
national crime statistics don't require "context" you delusional apologist
It’s funny because they’re still niggers even to the chinks who go to Africa. A nigger is a nigger.
Senpai, the studies and GWAS keep coming in over and over and over.
How does it feel that academia is slowly turning towards the racial realist side as the science comes in?
Researchers in Russia, China, Japan etc are already racism realists because they only care about the science, not leftist political agendas.
Also reminder that Steven Jay Gould falsified data.
Predictive validity, while not applicable here, is a concept from psychology and psychometry, both of which are social and behavioural sciences, which you are criticising.
No it isn't you fucking cretin - you equate "nigger" with "black people" which is not what the guy from the OP was referring to. You actively chose to ignore that because it conflicts with your own bias. For pussies like you, it's easy to make some snide remark about something to win GCP (good cretin points) from your echo chamber in order to perpetuate your sense of being correct, than to consider an observation.
You are wrong, deal with being a brainlet.
Your statement has nothing to do with what I said. If you'd like, we can talk about things on a case by case basis. Grand statements about black people and their history with stereotypes will be faulty by virtue of lack of evidence, and I would never make those as assertions of truth. Eat a cock
idk what he wrote seems pretty self-explanatory if you know what he's talking about
>is a concept from psychology
I'm not criticising psychology, just some forms of it.
Niggers exist mate. There really are trashy black people who behave stupidly and ruin things. You may as well say redneck white trash people don't exist. No one invented them, they noticed them.
>philosophy of science = muh post modernism
and this is how they getcha
mumbo jumbo from the nig
It is a lot of fun, nigger. Go drink some lean and rob a KFC.
>missing the point
Modernism and post-modernism can change based on a ruling consensus of what is or is not modern science, so we're in this weird position where institutions with a vested fiscal interest in separating the sciences and disparaging any moral conversation have altered the definition of modernism.
At what point does a return to a classical philosophical approach become post-modernism? How can applying a traditional (formerly) conservative set of proofs to a modern statistical analysis be considered post-modernism? But that's where we're at, assholes obfuscating definitions by design.
100% This.
This isn't prejudice, its postjudice.
>what white people need to do is search their subconscious and figure out why they needed to create this profile of a dumb black man that doesn't amount to anything that they don't even see as human, because I am a human, but if all you can see what you see a black person then you have problems because you felt the need to push this image of uselessness, laziness, retardation onto black people
IDK see if that helps any, if not. he's trying to argue that white people felt insecure in their position so they paint niggers are bumbling apes to make themselves feel better and that we cannot progress as a society if white people cannot come to terms with that
>Actually they are just appealing to black consumers.
>offending a consumer by perpetuating them as idiotic, ugly, lazy, and addicted to substances appeals to them
lmfao. ask me how I know you don't have a successful business
>Anecdotes are empirical. They're literally just observations.
this is incorrect. observations have to be made in a controlled environment in order to be admissible as evidence, just as it has always been the case for empiricism you stupid, illiterate, ahistoric faggot.
>banks are legal fiction
as opposed to? you continue to add obstacles to your definitions in order to obfuscate your lack of point/assertion, you are such a coward.
>It is though.
no it's not. a component does not constitute a whole you fuckin jackass
Sure. There's a lot of dogshit in the fuzzier social sciences. I can agree with that whilst also holding that there have been many historical flubs, mistakes and carried errors even in the 'purest' hard sciences, and that social science, despite its propensity towards fuzz, is important for contextualising that.
I have no idea, because what I just read makes no sense and only seems to further the divide between the races.
I think I've played MTG against him before
paint niggers as*
>i'd love to but people who say mean (factual) things about niggers get publicly shamed and often lose their livelihoods
racist faggotry aside, I do agree with you. you should be able to say whatever you want without fear of losing your job. however, most first world societies, invluding the USA, which it seems is where you are, do not force private businesses to adopt federal law into their organizing and incorporation documents, so you're shit out of luck. private enterprise doesn't care about your feelings (i.e. being a scared little pussy to say you "hate niggers"
>national crime statistics don't require "context" you delusional apologist
yes they do. otherwise they are just a tool for people to propagate false narratives, just like the "muh right wing conservatism" and "muh white supremacy problem" narratives that the media is exploiting right now with shitty data that is missing context (numbers of mass shootings [i.e. what constitutes one et al.]). but you'd rather ignore that because it isn't in line with your racist bias
Based image
>lmfao. ask me how I know you don't have a successful business
Yup black people seem to enjoy rap music, gangster movies, Madea movies, BET, etc.
>this is incorrect. observations have to be made in a controlled environment in order to be admissible as evidence, just as it has always been the case for empiricism you stupid, illiterate, ahistoric faggot.
No, literally the definition of "empirical" is just observable or being derived from experience. If I say I saw a white horse that's a empirical claim. merriam-webster.com
>as opposed to? you continue to add obstacles to your definitions in order to obfuscate your lack of point/assertion, you are such a coward.
Wrong again. Banks are a legal fiction. They don't exist in nature and only exist when humans bring them into being via law and practice.
>no it's not. a component does not constitute a whole you fuckin jackass
Society is just an aggregation of individuals(components). There is no "whole".
list me some studies from these countries. just curious - i'm sure their scientists don't give a fuck what some amerilard is thinking.
also, i find it hard to believe. did you know that, for example, soviet russia did not collect data on "race"? this was to stick it to the united states. russians were cool with black people for a long time. so it is doubtful. you wouldn't know that because it doesn't agree with your bias.
You're basically right but if you read the rest of what he writes I think it's less about some sense of Freudian insecurity in white people and more a need for a justification of the relative statuses of black and white people. Say it's the 1950s - Why do black people live in poverty? Why are they divested of education and work? Why are they limited to ghettoised neighbourhoods by redlining? 'Oh, it's because they're niggers'. It's an archetype of the other.
delete /pol/
Yea Forums was better when Yea Forums was the biggest board
Yea Forumstards > /pol/tards (who are basically zoomer /r/T_d reddit refugees)
>If the nigger did not exist, it would be necessary to create him - Socrates
not even black, it's just fun poking holes in the argument of white autists who think they're superior to someone while shitposting about garbage all day on Yea Forums. people like you don't read, or when you do, it's simple stupid bullshit that goes along with your narrative. it's hilariously funny, that you think you possess even an ounce of the intellect / rigor that some of "your ancestors" did like newtown, tesla, etc etc. you're all pathetic
keep guessing with the stereotypes, i'm sure you'll get it soon school shooter.
Yea Forums was always just as racist as /po/
>who are basically zoomer /r/T_d reddit refugees
Actually the major /pol/ demographic these days are boomers, which is why the board has gone to such shit since the election. Trump basically brought in a tidal wave of gullible boomers who drank the /pol/ kool aid and never looked back.
>Banks are a legal fiction. They don't exist in nature and only exist when humans bring them into being via law and practice.
this is such an odd and hilarious thing to write. What nature are you referring to? As if there exists any fiscal reality without law and practice. The state, the military, civil and municipal government, the Federal Reserve, property rights, religious rights, personal rights - these are all technically legal fictions as well.
>who think they're superior to someone while shitposting about garbage all day
maybe you should spend some time on black twitter. you may find that fun too.
interesting, I was going just off of the text in the OP but that make sense.
>it's about a vast number of people in different industries creating a stereotype based on anecdotal evidence (at best)
this is like "the jews control the banking and media industries" tier of delusion
>implying white people invented slavery
>nigger education
>Yea Forums was always just as racist as /po[l]/
they were funnier
>Actually the major /pol/ demographic these days are boomers
they're just larping so they don't get underageb&....either that or they're total manchildren
>person is from the country Niger
>gets angry if you call him a nigger
Black people are weird.
>this is such an odd and hilarious thing to write. What nature are you referring to? As if there exists any fiscal reality without law and practice. The state, the military, civil and municipal government, the Federal Reserve, property rights, religious rights, personal rights - these are all technically legal fictions as well.
The basic idea that started this was that different industries created stereotypes and invented niggers. Thats literally not true. Bank of America isn't a conscious entity with desires or needs. Only people exist.
But it's a mitral proven fact that their living standards are so bad because of their genetic potential.
See:
>false narratives
such as the ones surrounding the slave trade, segregation, police shootings, and pretty much any issue related to blacks in america
>racist
what's "racist"?
>bias
numbers are not biased. blacks are more criminal than other groups. that's what the data says and it's not debatable. until that fact is acknowledged (instead of ignored and covered up by media and ngos as it is presently), blacks and their worshipers need to shut their fucking mouths
It is but it's politically correct to say that white racists run everything as opposed to Jewish Zionists which in not ok.
literal*
well really if we're being intellectually honest, the jews invented "the n***er", masterminded the slave trade and brainwashed americans into thinking slavery was awesome
>Yup black people seem to enjoy rap music, gangster movies, Madea movies, BET, etc.
This argument is garbage. These things do not insult black people any more than the same "white" and jewish entertainment insult whites and jews. but you choose to ignore that because it doesn't suit your narrative you timid cuck.
>No
I'll yield a little here. something being empirical does not grant it the right to be admissible in rigorous studies. but you're moving the goalposts over and over, so you'll lend me the same discretion, no? maybe if i tell you i'm white and i hate niggers too you'll do so
>muh legal fiction
see below, this shit is comically stupid, as is the legal fiction of your birth having occurred, or you owning property or having assets, which is also fiction under your definition. (which, by the way, is not something you have even clarified. what is "fiction" in this context? if there is such a thing in your mind, then "reality" exists. what constitutes reality you fucking faggot?)
>society is an aggregate ... there is no whole
contradictory. and you're the one who used the dictionary! hilarious. i'll do the same!
>aggregate
merriam-webster.com
>the whole sum or amount
>whole
merriam-webster.com
>a complete amount or sum
eat my shit lmao
don't bother, he'll move the goalposts and admit to that being the case as well. the nuance of context is missing from his cumbrain.
>he doesn’t know about The Nigger Convention of 1684 and the Great Nigger Proclamation of the following year
Like the Rock said, It doesn't matter what you think, jabroni.
To summarize this for smoothbrains like myself I think basically this nigga saying we need science to be more like it was with aristotle and plato
Essentially there is a big a problem with corporations and media championing fags like black science man and epic atheist man who approach the sciences with only a ruler and if it doesn't measure then its not worth thinking about, and in fact shouldn't be considered at all.
But if we philosophize again within science then we can actually come up with new shit because we are no longer bound by what is "proven real" or "acceptable" and are now capable of understanding what is "possibly real" and "doesn't fit in with preconceived notions"
I guess a good example would be Freud. Freud was wrong about a lot of shit, but the headway he made within psychology is astounding, and its the refinements of his thoughts and experiments by people like Karl Junge(and then further refinements of his work) that make up much of the groundwork of modern psychology.
Niggers can't do this anymore though because if it doesn't fit within the ruler it doesn't fucking get measured.
Am I getting the sentiment?
Look I just want to see niggers breed and mount white women, okey?
Bank of America isn't a conscious entity but it does have particular functions and aims. As an investment bank it wants to make returns for those who invest their money there, and its primary aims are to generate financial capital off of the services of wealth management and investment banking. Actually, most of BofA's primary financial services revolve around commercial banking, and it is operated as a business for profit - accepting deposits, making business loans, and offering basic investment products. As it operates in a variety of markets, it will develop a wide variety of fiscal practices, and its relationship with the federal government will be defined by public policies on interest rates and things like capital gains tax etc., but all sectors within the BofA function towards a wider goal of generating profit and maintaining the financial institution. That's a structural goal, maybe not shared in kind by every single person who works there, but all their jobs contribute towards that structural goal. The Bank of America isn't just a building where people run around doing what they want and bumping into each other. It is institutionally and systemically coordinated towards asset accumulation.
Yes, that's absolutely what I meant. Thanks for explaining it using less gay words
Thomas Sowell
it goes deeper than that. literally 50% of all peer reviewed studies are fake. science isnt what people think it is.
stop believing something just because a certain group or class of individuals endorse it.
>literally 50% of all peer reviewed studies are fake
now we're fucking talking
it’s seriously sad how many people on here need to be spoon fed the “correct” opinion and desperately long to be told what to think about something.
I’m really not sure what’s responsible for it; underage, autism, insecurity, etc. all seem likely but I fear I’ll never know for sure
NOW WE'RE COOKING WITH GAS
Akshually, the united states government, where all this racist propaganda and dialogue occurs, recognizes corporations as people.
its because they're all brainlets. not me tho, im a smart guy
Based jews
He means he's a whiny baby who blames white people for all his problems.
FUCK NIGGERS
I think you missed what Hayek and Thatcher meant when they said that society doesn't exist, only individuals. They didn't mean literally that 'the Bank of America is an illusion'.
a nigger is a nigger
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Oh sweet! I feel like a retarded mutant most of the time so it feels good to be reminded that despite it all I am still capable of learning and understanding beyond my confidence level.
Americans didn't exist when the slave trade started. Also, how come only Jews have the power to brainwash people?
So angry, yet needlessly.
If blacks didn't act like total niggers they woudn't be called niggers.
thats all theres to it.
If Niggers were human would they not educate themselves , that chink got it right
No you were much clearer in your explanation than me. I exist inside of my own ass. You should rightfully feel confident in yourself
Everyone from the old Yea Forums moved to /pol/
Now its time to take your anti-boomer card and use it too.
/pol/ is doign god's work
ask chris rock he hates them filthy niggers
He meant he ripped that line out of Schuyler's "Black No More" but refused to credit him because the lost luminary of the Harlem Renaissance disapproved of faggotry.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T CALL THEM NIGGERS!
This is such an epistemologically fraught statement. 'Nigger' the word emerges from Spanish 'negro' and is meant to denote blackness of the skin, yet also was invented to denote some abstract niggerliness? Racecraft.
or planning a shoot out at Disney star wars
It's amazing just how much outright bullshit there is floating around out there in academia. The biggest bullshitters are "disciplines" like "queer studies" wherein 99% is just straight up horseshit; nothing scientific about it at all. It's a big racket consisting of weird, schizophrenic, haughty gay jewish pricks. If all involved parties simply evaporated into thin air overnight, humanity would only benefit.
Its funny even Black Africans call them Niggers
Does calling a thing by a name make it that name? What came first, the nigger or the black man?
That be very based.
Martin Luther Queen they called him
Like the 80s was not that jew interjection in Mutt Unis establishment
you start first as declaring the argument invalid then focusing on linguistics to prevent from touching the real subject of my post : attitude.
If niggers weren't niggering this word would be absolete.
I will SAVE Park Rey , diasy rey gets bullet to forehead
Here is the origin of the word nigger
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but I dont wan't a nigger, I want them to leave or die.
Oh vey my son
I get it. ITs a thin line that exists sometimes when writing between "i am using the most accurate terminology to convey my message" and "I'm up my own ass with my bullshit".
Writing for a high reading/comprehension level isn't inherently bad, but its very easy to neglect the best parts of language and 'conveyance'- that is, analogies, metaphors, imagery, etc. Not that those can't also trip you up. Get me on some adderall and my latent schizo will scribble some alien Armageddon spell language bullshit with the incomprehensible metaphors.
Thats hilarious isan't it, they hired litteral nobodies to cosplay as their characters who happen to be more attractive than the litteral whos they hired to play in the movies.
God disney should just die in a fire.
economist.com
FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND "questionable" journals. these numbers are mind boggling. the "50% of peer review is nonsense" is according to the lancet.
the takeaway is that science is not neutral as most people think, it's mostly just a bunch of corporations with obvious self interests.
it would take a seriously naive individual to think that science is what it's been portrayed as the last few decades.
science is inherently epistemically theory-laden and should be taken with a grain of salt, not as real life facts that we live or die by.
studies cannot be trusted. the scary thing is that it's not just "SJW fields" - it's literally all of science, it's been co-opted by big interests
i always had an inkling that this was the case, because it never really made sense to me, the amount of people that refuse to believe something unless academics and scientists endorse it (which is literally a logical fallacy in itself, the appeal to authority).
we live in a strange fucking world, that's for damn sure
Where did the word come from in the first place, if not from linguistics? Is there something inherently 'niggerly' about the nigger that makes the sound of 'nig' and 'ger' so perfect?
based
having t. disgraced Louis C.K. doing that is not on user kek
>how come only Jews have the power to brainwash people?
lack of conscious
THIS! This is absolutely what I mean. This proves my point - the nigger just is, as an ontological order. Truly fascinating.
fascinating
an seeing the fake reys interact with the kiddies an super nice ,shows what a shit eating thin lipped rotten actress she be .
So what do we call white person who acts like a nigger?
>“What white people have to do
Lololol, didn't read the rest, fuck you nigger, nuke America, save the world. Go cry about hate speech to your corporate handlers, leftshit faggot.
Cracker / in bong a chav or gypo
>le blacks have no free will
Pretty funny that this is what "intellectualism" has been reduced to in order to explain the obvious and scientific differences in races and genetics that constantly assail them the minute they leave their liberal bubble.
Its actually a mispronunciation of the word negro but with an r in the end to implie action from that individual, so nigger were someone who does nigger things.
The word was created on behalf of the behavior i mentioned (that you still haven't addressed), its a bad attitude by individuals of that particular race, if that attitude didn't existed the word would be absolete.
Why isan't there a Chinker? someone whos chinks things? because theres (was) no bad behavior associated with chinks althought thats changing now and it will soon pop up very often.
she needs them lycra pants pulled down an her bare bottom spanked good and hard til she sobbing an squealing Sorry , like most lefty feminazis
>which is literally a logical fallacy in itself, the appeal to authority
It's a simple time-saving heuristic. Why would you ever expect someone to spend the infinite time and effort required to personally vet every single possible scientific theory? Why would you ever expect someone to believe the lone crank over the consensus?
Baldwin is a very interesting character but god damn if this "documentary" isn't of the most dishonest I've ever seen. It's nauseating how the director (who also made a film about the life of Marx, by the way) uses Baldwin's life and work for the purpose of making it seen like the US are as racist in 2016 as they were back in the 60's.
American.
Usually scum, trailer park trash, bum, a loser, slangs for whites though relate more towards an individualistic approach since they were crafted by people who share the same race and culture the different outcome is often judged individualy.
whites invented the archetype, blacks solidified the stereotype
>uses Baldwin's life and work for the purpose of making it seen like the US are as racist in 2016 as they were back in the 60's.
If only he was right, things woudn't be half as bad.
Always saying this but never actually doing anything about it.
In Chinky land niggers are triads or triase
>I am not your Negro
Good, I don't want any negroes.
>Be free from slavery
>Time passes by
>Black family unit dies out
>Gang culture takes over
>Now they're all mostly criminals and savages
>BUT THE WHITE MAN THOUGH
Fuck off. Blacks need to learn to take responsibility for their own and grow the fuck up. Wanna be called a "man" and not a nigger? start acting like a fucking man, nigger.
Lets avoid mentioning chinks before that user with the chinese webms show up to shit this thread.
Damn didn't know I was unemployed
"saving time" is fine. taking life as it is dictated to you by a bunch of corrupt elites spreading money around is not fine. and make no mistake, that's absolutely what is happening. most notably, global warming and how it was supposed to end life on earth decades ago, the numbers always come up short, yet people still believe in it because they're scared. scared by a ruling elite controlling what they think, through "settled science" parroted by the rich and famous.
you don't need to become an expert in every field to know that Scientism in general (and global warming, by extension) is bullshit. you can verify things by means other than blindly believing a man in a white labcoat on TV.
>you, the white people, invented him
cars, planes and the nigger. is there anything whypeepo can't invent?
>it's mostly just a bunch of corporations with obvious self interests.
and leftist organizations with special interests
It is same as with loser whites. They blame the system and not themselves.
same thing. the left/Right false dichotomy is just another attack vector to make people focus on eachother rather than the people who pull strings behind the scenes.
notice how both political parties want to flood America with immigrants, legal or otherwise. there's a staggering amount of overlap. this is just the most obvious example by which to explain it.
This is already a shit thread anyway at least then we could just laugh at chinks.
>notice how both political parties want to flood America with immigrants
Then why is trump making it so hard? my cocaine is getting pricy.
He was back in the 60's but ironically blacks embraced these stereotypes as something inherent to their culture and a symbol of their fight against the system/the White Man. So now the image of the obnoxious, intransigent, dumb-yet-proud black person isn't something viewed as a symbol of prejudice but instead something that they should strive for even if it's extremely self-destructive both for themselves and for the perception of other races towards them.
wtf i'm woke now
no but seriously why do you need the white man to need you? why are you still imagining that other people see you as property? it's just all so tiresome
>He was back in the 60's but ironically blacks embraced these stereotypes as something inherent to their culture and a symbol of their fight against the system/the White Man.
This is the equivalent of someone getting called gay and going "I will show you whos gay" then suck a guy's penis off in front of everybody "that will show em"
You still have blacks who hate those kinda black people but i would argue that is mostly problem with american black community. Real africans hate that culture.
>falling for the infinite regression jew
some dumbfuck that thinks there's a rock to stand on here. sick.
If you referring to African states ruling selves an failing , its quite interestin reading that Rhode..ZimBabwee , what white farmers managers on huge Master wages to return now , as Blacks wont work for blacks ?
Absolutely.
Yes, the term Uncle Tom saw a big resurgence with the 2016 elections.
>Real africans hate that culture.
Considering what happened in Liberia, they very much should. It's really ironic seeing all this afrocentrism in western media when real africans would hate having to interact with westernized, woke black people.
Many Dutch Farmers are there Earning Big rewards
Based. If we create it can we destroy it? Fuck niggers
Uncle Toms aren't black you stupid fucking cuckold.
Its a tribal thing much like mutt blood =crips thing , niggers do hate each other more than whitey
>black people themselves perpetuated a lot of these stereotypes.
This is where you unironically admitted user was right and your argument fell apart lmao
I hope you get aids you limp wristed faggot
he be a triggered plebbit cunt dont rise to that newfag feminazi trans , he will an Hero soon Keks
>Time passes by
And nothing happened in that time? No Jim Crow? No nothing?
how long should a group of people claim they're unable to transcend their past? do you have a number in mind?
>literally doesn't know that blacks prospered in the 50's, 60's and 70's, having stronger families even than white people on average
you're just a retard.
forever until wh*toids are eliminated from the earth and the negro can flourish
That negro is my nigga
jim crow was a southern phenomenon. historically illiterate sjw types like to pretend every place in america was mississippi burning.
>And the future of the country depends on that, whether or not it’s able to ask that question.”
careful with that nigga, maybe the answer doesnt like you
Read from
>But in truth, our major metropolitan areas were segregated by government action. The federal government purposefully placed public housing in high-poverty, racially isolated neighborhoods (pdf) to concentrate the black population, and with explicit racial intent, created a whites-only mortgage guarantee program to shift the white population from urban neighborhoods to exclusively white suburbs (pdf). The Internal Revenue Service granted tax-exemptions for charitable activity to organizations established for the purpose of enforcing neighborhood racial homogeneity. State-licensed realtors in virtually every state, and with the open support of state regulators, supported this federal policy by refusing to permit African Americans to buy or rent homes in predominantly white neighborhoods. Federal and state regulators sanctioned the refusal of the banking, thrift, and insurance industries to make loans to homeowners in other-race communities. Prosecutors and police sanctioned, often encouraged, thousands of acts of violence against African Americans who attempted to move to neighborhoods that had not been designated for their race.
>By the time the federal government reversed its policy of subsidizing segregation in 1962, and by the time the Fair Housing Act banned private discrimination in 1968, the residential patterns of major metropolitan areas were set. White suburbs that had been affordable to the black working class in the 1940s, 50s and 60s were now no longer so, both because of the increase in housing prices (and whites’ home equity) during that period, and because other federal policies had depressed black incomes while supporting those of whites. It was not until 1964, for example, that the National Labor Re
And onward, not just this snippet of course, actually open the article, there's also links of the citations.
based. fuck niggers.
we need to bring back segregation so the niggers can be free from whites and they can live as nature intended.
Black owned banks were just as likely to deny blacks loans for housing in decent neighborhoods. Also, Asians were more likely to obtain loans for good neighborhood residency than whites.
I don't see the causal link between segregation and depressed income. chinese segregated themselves for decades by choice and still do mostly, and they're doing fine.
>He's trying his hardest to sound educated and thoughtful but he's thoroughly full of shit.
That's Armond White you're thinking of
>all the racist brainlets in this thread failing to understand a simple quote
Langston Hughes
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cringe
Where do you think the vast majority of freed blacks lived in the second half of the 19th century you fucking retard.
>some things i made up
what's your point
whites and every other race
why are they all niggers though, no matter where they are
They lived in the South, Jim Crow was a Southern phenomenon. Even in the North there was intentional social segregation allowed by state governments, as opposed to state-enforced segregation as in the South.
Cringe
why are they still niggers even outside of the us
What is a nigger?
he's forgetting that his race sold him out to another race for money or probably some trading goods at that time. maybe some sheep. imagine that. thats the fact he forgets, who didn't have slaves around that time? tell me. which race didn't own slaves at that time or at any time in history?
just try, leftoids. thats what they can't, so they keep looking for excuses why their individual character is a failure of a person and so he seeks help by generalizing his personal problem that he reflects onto a big fantasy agenda that is going on right now.
set yourself free, black man
Where? Who is still a nigger? What even is a nigger?
an ape that has recent ancestry from sub-saharan africa and is treated like a low functioning human
Some of them are. I can say that only blacks that i had ever problem with in here finland are somalis. Even other blacks here hate them because how they act.
I suppose you are dumb enough to think people are dumb enough to decide to hate niggers based on skin colour instead of their disgusting behaviour, so explaining this to someone so dumb as yourself would be a complete waste of time.
>an ape that has recent ancestry from sub-saharan africa
That's every human.
>and is treated like a low functioning human
Treated by who? In what context?
we'll all die eventually.... so that only leaves one option in my eyes desu senpai baka
humans self-segregate. go look at a school lunchroom sometime.
>That's every human.
nah, don't be intentionally stupid.
>Treated by who? In what context?
by humans. in every context aside from a couple hundred years ago when they were treated for what they are.
I don't have or need to do jack shit
It is as if blacks would be better off living with their people and not around whites or something.
>You know where the word nigger came from? Some black guy was being a nigger, and so they called him a nigger!
What did he mean by this?
But people are dumb enough to hate all of them and not just those that act like niggers.
WE DINDU NUFFIN
The definition 'an ape that has recent ancestry from sub-saharan africa' is so general that is can be applied to every population of humans. Recent is relative, but if we take the term as it is generally used in the context of geological time in science, then 'recent' covers the last 300,000 years, and includes all of humanity.
I'm not saying there isn't a viable definition of 'nigger', I'm saying your definitions are insufficient and don't work.
some sparks of constructive conversation in this thread, and of course it just descends into aimless faggotry and shitflinging and strawmanning
nah. you're being intentionally retarded. here use 23andme's definition of recent then. i think it's 4 to 5 hundred years. By that time 99% of the nigger would be washed out.
I think everybody needs to realize that anybody can be a nigger, niggerdom is blind to race, sexual orientation, even class. I have seen rich niggers, I have seen poor niggers, I have seen white niggers, I have seen black niggers. I have seen gay niggers. I have seen straight niggers. I basically made this post to say nigger a lot. Anyway, you are all niggers.
where can I see this movie
you're coming from a relativistic perspective. a nigger can only ever be a black. stop trying to co-opt specific terms as catch-alls for behavior you don't like.
Baldwin made some good points back in the day, but good for him that he died 30 years ago, because he certainly wouldn't be able to resist disgracing his legacy in the 21st Century. George W. Bush, the tea party movement, the Obama administration, black lives matter, Trump... imagine how he'd embarrass himself
>stereotypes don't actually exist and were created by the ebil white man to keep the perfect in everyway blacks down
How stupid are you?
>blacks don't actually commit more violent crime and the same is definitely found all over the world
....
>all the evidence was created by ebil white men to keep perfect in every way black people down
You must not leave your basement much. I have seen non blacks act like niggers all the god damn time.
still using it as a catch-all, dummy.
What I’m saying is the behavior a person would describe as being that of a nigger is not conducive to just black people. I have met black people that aren’t niggers. I have met white people that are.
Of course stereotypes exist for a reason.
We can have all flavors
Join the fun./
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>millennial young men are the most violent group in America
>Must mean white men
Hold on a second there.
Its more a philosophical matter of Why would you see this movie?
its funny, considering white millenial males (note how i didnt use men) are probably the most emasculated specimens in the last century
Ah yes, it was white people's fault that while the rest of the world invented wonders and built empires sub-Saharan Africans spent a couple millions inventing a pointy sticks and ritual cannibalism.
this guy gets it
Yeah but just because past whites did all that it doesn't make me any less of an loser.
Stuff like this is why I love east asians and hate jews like Friedman with a passion.
What would you call native Americans? They also lived as hunter gathers during most of the industrialization of the rest of the world. There were a lot of intelligent native chiefs for instance.
Did white people also invent niggers for the Chinese?
Whenever you get emotional you stop making sense, ascend this physical form my young nigger and see beyond these feelings that plague your mind, you will see they are right and the path to salvation will reveal itself to you.
cool boomer take, kid. you're still using it as a catch-all.
The negro is gonna be under China's boot forever
What is the difference between a black person who acts like a nigger and a white person who acts like a nigger.
The white one's parents are probably rich.
James Baldwin was a sentimentalist hack with nothing serious to offer. Everything wrong with culture today can be seen in the vast amounts of praise he's managed to amass.
Read Eldridge Cleaver instead.
lmao wut
Over privileged white kids seem to have a tendency to turn into wiggers. Or antifa.
eternal negro worker vs eternal master chad
thats not what i found
Literally don't care about the childish complaints of negros.
t. over-privileged wigger
It wasn't though. The black man's own behavior gave him his negative reputation.
who is that woman
STOP POSTING THAT!!!!!!!!!
>bruv
Imagine being such a huge faggot that you try to lecture an American on their nations problems when you live in Great Britain of all places. Sad.
You are nobodies negro. Forever alone
He’s saying jarod Taylor is right and blacks and whites should separate