Adaptation when??

adaptation when??

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Idris Elba

Do you really wanna see the characters being gender and race swapped?

Like 15 years ago

>Homer

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>fagles
ishygddt

The Odyssey is too long to do as a movie and too sfx heavy to do as a tv show

HBO could pull off series on these

>tfw bought these on a whim and never read them

>buying Homer instead of reading free bilingual editions online
Lmaoing @ fags wasting their money
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There's been several. The Brad Pitt is not actually that bad, either. It followed the actual Illiad pretty well.

With the things are now, hopefully never. I don't need to see black Odysseus and his Chinese crew sailing him to meet his blond wife.

The Sneediad

>It followed the actual Illiad (sic) pretty well.
No.

Its too much material for a movie, it would make a great TV series though. I remember they did an Odyssey adaptation with Armand Assante back in the 90s that wasn't too bad, it was overly sanitized and the special effects were made for TV movie tier but it was still fun. I'd love to see a modern adult rated adaptation.

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>adaptation when??
Very hard to nail, VERY HARD.

Odyssey > Iliad

Snyder should. Actually fuck that. Snyder should make an adaptation of the Divine Comedy. It would be so fucking epic

As a complete geek of classical culture, this would be interesting to see.

This. It'd make a smashing TV series.

Maybe books 5-14 of the Odyssey are, but after that it really drags out to the end.

The Iliad is solid action and fun from start to finish imo.

Who would you cast in the roles?

As a complete geek of classical culture you'd know what we really need is a good Dante adaptation for once

Debecki as Helen

There is an already almost perfect one. A series from RAI plus other euro collaborators. The Polyphemus is made by Mario bava.
Penelopes is Irene Papas. Nausicaa is Barbara Bach.
youtube.com/watch?v=uTxz1nueGrY

I say almost because Scylla and Charybdis are missing. FYI the women in this series are gorgeous.

>ignores two literal godesses and prime teen cunny so he can get back to a post wall middle aged woman riding the cock carousel and his wife's son

That too. When was the last adaptation?

I would watch

I think it was that fucking anime based on the video game

>Only posting the first two thirds of the trilogy

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Iliad is fightfightcryfightfightcry 99% of time.
Odyssey is lots of cool stuff.

>posts the the derivative sequel done by another author
>the same author knew it was shit and wanted it destroyed

I read part of this in Latin class.

Okay if we go to the Aeneid then we going to Dante later idgaf

I never heard about that. I thought the Aeneid was held in high regard, though it wouldn't surprise me if Virgil had his doubts about it. He left some passages unfinished.

this was literally the disney star wars of it's day

Virgil more like Virgin

It was written as a national epic.

It is held in high regard but it was written to suck Augustus' cock

Gonna need to call in D&D for this one

Trilogy???

How about the entire Epic Cycle
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Cycle

Also you can't really include the Aeneid. It's pretty much an invention of Vergil's for Roman propaganda centuries later.

The "cool stuff" that I think you're referring to only happens in those books 5-14.

What's wrong with a lot of fighting and drama? I like it. Don't forget about the covert mission that Odysseus and Diomedes go on in book 10!

>Dante

With Hieronymus Bosch style surrealist imagery. That would be pretty great.

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Damn that'd be the tightest shit
Who could do it?

These paintings gave me nightmares as a kid.

>women
youtube.com/watch?v=mKcH8ZvqzZw
Calypso, Kyra Bester
Nausicaa, Barbara Bach
Nausica's mom, Marina Berti
All here. Odysseus is Bekim Fehmiu

>Who could do it?

Guillermo del Toro maybe? He's pretty good at making freaky surrealist shit.

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The Telemachy is boring?
The revenge part is boring?

i read these in 4th grade, but can't remember if they were shortened or not

Probably. I read a novelization (basically just the story in prose) in 3rd grade.

If you read them in 4th grade, I'd be willing to bet you read a modernized abridged version. Its a great story but most translations are close to 400 pages.

>he didn't read the full 500 page Hunchback of Notre Dame when he was 11
Never gonna make it

give it a few years and then unironically cast aidan gillen as menelaus

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>il n'a pas lu Notre Dame de Paris en français à l'age de quatorze ans

Yeah, I just find Telemachus to be whiny and powerless. He doesn't serve much toward the progression of the plot and relies on his father to bring resolution.

The revenge part *drags* on way too long for me. It'd be better if it were shorter. There are some gems in there like Odysseus seeing his dog Argos again.

I think the Iliad touches on themes I like more: like honor and glory, human impermanence, the rise and fall of empires, the relationship of gods and men, etc.

The official canon is six kinos in two trilogies

There's a bigass timeskip and a shitton of extended universe lore in the second half though but it's more of its own thing

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No but I did it when I was 19 by the time I could read french

I didn't read it at 14. Je faisais du cacapostage.

french and italian literally serve no purpose to the english speaking world other than to attract easy art hoe pusy

The revenge part is long because it must be enjoyed fully.
I prefer the Odyssey for the hospitality and the overall travel and longing.
I keep changing country for work, I kinda relate lol.
My favorite part is Tiresias prophecy.
>‘“But after you have killed these suitors in your palace, either by treachery, or openly with the sharp bronze, then you must take up your well-shaped oar and go on a journey until you come where there are men living who know nothing of the sea, and who eat food that is not mixed with salt, who never have known ships whose cheeks are painted purple, who never have known-well-shaped oars, which act for ships as wings do. And I will tell you a very clear proof, and you cannot miss it. When, as you walk, some other wayfarer happens to meet you, and says you carry a winnow-fan on your bright shoulder, then you must plant your well-shaped oar in the ground, and render ceremonious sacrifice to the lord Poseidon, one ram and one bull, and a mounter of sows, a boar pig, and make your way home again and render holy hecatombs to the immortal gods who hold the wide heaven, all of them in order. Death will come to you from the sea, in some altogether unwarlike way, and it will end you in the ebbing time of a sleek old age. Your people about you will be prosperous. All this is true that I tell you.”’

>cacapostage
Lmao

Italian is very useful if you're interested in classical music.
t. classical musician who's been to Italy for work

You posted this because you could not understand the videos in french and italian?
Are you 12?

This. Italian is good if you listen to opera all day like Chads do

Modern English is the best French a bunch of dominated saxons could come up with.

Odysseus was probably in his mid 40s or so by the time the events of the Odyssey took place. Would this matter for casting?

No I hope they cast a cute shota

There would be more problems in casting Penelope

lol that'd be Telemakhos. He was probably ~20 by the time his father returned.
Why is that?

I can definitely understand, then, why the Odyssey appeals to you more with its themes of nostos and xenia.

The Tiresias prophecy of book 12 is the subject of the lost epic of the Telegony. Supposedly Odysseus' illegitimate son by Circe, when he comes of age, goes to search for his father. When he arrives at Ithaca, he is attacked by Odysseus, who mistakes his son's ship as pirates. The son hurls a manta ray at Odysseus, killing him. Hence Odysseus death "comes from the sea".

fag

>Tfw wanna read the Odyssey and Iliad but they're too long and daunting for me to get the motivation

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>in some altogether unwarlike way
That's a violent death, is not "unwarlakie".
The telegony is Rianjohnsoning.
But that's ok, these old stories are as varied and re-told as the MCU. Penelope is some version has been far from being faithful, to the point that pan could have been born from her sleeping with ALL the suitors, I hopa not at once.

fuck off with the fan-fiction

Read a bit at a time unless you're bored on a rainy day. It's like reading any large work.

>can't even start with the greeks

>Why is that?
The Wall.

unwarlakie is unwarlike and hopa is hope.
No idea what the fuck happened.

lol some women are still attractive in early middle age
She's probably younger than Odysseus, so that'd put her age at ~35 by the time he comes home.

Yeah but if I'm not watching movies or doing my daily chores I'm shitposting on Yea Forums which I don't get bored of and don't really stop with. Hell, I haven't even finished reading Dune yet and I started a year ago (at page 146 rn)

I read Moby Dick in 5th grade actually. Our school had a system where every book in the library had a point value assigned to it and you had to have a certain number of points done by the end of the semester. Moby Dick was worth more points than any other book, so many in fact that reading it alone gave you all the points you needed. So I read the whole damn thing, not sure I picked up on all the symbolism in elementary school though.

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>tfw the part where his doggo dies after seeing his master one last time
Set aside some time every day for reading then.

Why didn't Telemachus just fuck his mom? Was he a cuck?

Oedipus please stop, just stop.

That's another Greek story entirely...

Oh, I fully agree. But many producers don't. You could find a dipshit that does not trust a more mature and commanding woman with presence, which is what is needed for Penelope.

Argos is 100% feels

I'm not sure what you mean by "official" canon.

There is the Epic Cycle of Homer's time, which included 8 epic poems by various poets who tell of different parts of the Trojan War.

There is the Aeneid of the Pax Romana written many centuries later, which served mostly as propaganda and to replace the earlier Roman epic "The Annales" by Ennius.

The other "lost" epics were considered to be pretty bad by ancient audiences compared to Homer's installments. Hence, probably why they are "lost". "Rianjohnsoning" may not be a bad way of phrasing it haha.

Argos is my favorite part of the whole story.

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El Bosco, please

>Iliad
Yea Forums can't help discussing capeshit

Why do the Homer threads on Yea Forums get so many replies but the Shakespeare threads die so easy

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>There is the Aeneid of the Pax Romana written many centuries later, which served mostly as propaganda and to replace the earlier Roman epic "The Annales" by Ennius.
It still has value as poetry even though it's propaganda.

fuck man, the thumbnail make it looks like a chick with big ass
i was about to comment THICC and then i enlarge the picture, somebody help me

because fuck anglos

Took a while to convert the 230 megabyte version from Wikipedia to something postable.

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Absolute madmen, you and the original author.

Full of soiboys who need fantasy and superheroes to keep interest

When Shakespeare does have fantasy it's usually comparatively boring shit like the fairies

Next time your fatass wants to play a video game try reading a book instead

I'm not saying it doesn't have value. I'd even argue that Vergil displays more skill in his hexameter than Homer.

What I am saying is that I don't agree that the Aeneid should be treated as a part of Homer's Epic Cycle.

bro you can just upload the OG to a hosting site and give us the link

I don't play video games, except for the occasional TF2

Yeah I'd definitely agree with that.

SCREWS HOMER

With tha approval of heavenly father a TV adaption of the book of mormon would be incredible.

it's harder to make fascist propaganda out of Shakespeare

>Guillermo del Toro maybe? He's pretty good at making freaky surrealist shit.
del Toro can barely get the Christian subtext of Narnia, much less Dante or Bosch. And if he did get it he'd just subvert it to dab on his dead Catholic granny

Jean Cocteau is the only director who could successfully make a surrealist Dante and he's been dead for decades.

Does anyone actually know what piece of music is tattooed on that dude's ass

After the Shape of Water, we can all agree del Taco has the subtlety of an Howitzer. Not even a /pol/tard, it's just what it is.

Why? If you want the original you can just get it off Wikipedia.

Honestly, I wanted a smaller version for myself anyway. 223 megs is impractical, this one is under 3 megs but its still big enough to play Where's Waldo with and see all the funky little details.

B&R

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>remember my dad reading these in the early 90s
>know the overall legends and shit
>get hooked on the odyssey album by Symphony X in the 2000s
>now late 2010s, searched some reviews of the book on youtube
>it's a söÿ ridden faggot crying how the iliad is about muhsoginy and toxic masculinity

We do need a new world war.

start with short stories first
do classic stuffs like O Henry, and then building up your reading habit
I read on average 50 pages of books everyday no matter what

stop being a retard and care about "reviewers" opinion, esp giving them fucking clicks and views

Already happened. It was a fun watch too.

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The best adaption of the Odyssey. Sorry, everyone, it will not be topped.

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how closely did they follow the book, and did they skip anything?

I didn't watch that one. The premise sounded like PC shit. I suggested Del Toro mainly because of Pan's Labyrinth. Visually, I think he's a good fit but in terms of storytelling you're probably right that he'd fuck it up.

wot

Fuck Accelerated Reader. It took the fun out of reading and wasn't fair to kids who were slow readers.

They skipped a lot, really any adaptation would have to unless you were prepared to do like 50 episodes.

They still stayed pretty close to the story though.

Fagles is based. Pope and Chapman’s aren’t even Homer, however good they may be.

As stated, I am not even triggered by PC shit, but it was blatant, hamfisted, and the interaction was BADLY played out, to the point to make it a movie about bestiality.
Critics are a joke.

>reading books online
So fuckin cringe

I wonder if those would make a good anime

i honestly don't get why people got triggered by that movie so hard
i don't think it is film of the year worthy or anything, but the story isn't that offensive

a bit of a spoiler but she is pretty much the same kind as the fish dude

lmao, this one too has Irene Papas!

Eumaeus chapter of Odyssey is the best part of the poem

Yeah, that's what they called it. All the other kids thought I was nuts. They were sitting around banging out some shitty forgettable little book every week because it was the easiest way to rack up points while I was banging my head against Melville. I think I made the right choice though, I got a story to tell while everyone else just got hassled.

Is badly written. The moustache-twirling villain belongs to some 50 years ago in the way is developed. Or some more. I was expecting to see the guy put the protagonist on rails and look at the camera.

Cuique suum, but I always had connection to book 12, especially when Odysseus meets his mother in the Underworld.

It was written to suck Rome’s cock, and Augustus was Rome. Now shoo

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Weak translation

Don't know about Homer but Dante has already been made into animekino
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I can't read music, but here you go.

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That part rules. When Achilles leaps about like a gazelle after hearing of his son’s courage in battle was very heartwarming too

There is some consideration that Vergil may have wanted it destroyed because he left breadcrumb-criticisms of Augustus throughout, i.e. the ending of book 6 and Aeneas' (Augustus' ancestor) merciless murder of Turnus at the end of the poem.

Shit sucked when I got into middle school. They started to make us read hard ass shit like The Three Musketeers. I liked to read in order to enjoy the story. Putting kids on a time table for reading is retarded. They also tie it to your English grade which makes kids rush and panic.

I even got called into a meeting with other kids who had trouble reaching their point goals and the teachers treated us like we were evil. There were kids in there who simply didn't want do it. I wanted to do it, but I wasn't a fast reader.

I just ended up sticking with the Harry Potter books and the Chronicles of Narnia series.

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>I just ended up sticking with the Harry Potter books and the Chronicles of Narnia series.

Not bad choices to be fair.

I love how that one dude's pointing at it all chill while a fucking cat demon has him by the shoulders

>tfw read Call of the Wild in 4th grade and White Fang in 6th
goml

You are a fucking retard

>Only one guy tried to fuck his wife and the rest were simply squatters
>"IMMA KILL ALL OF YA'LL"
Was Odessius a psychopath?

>>Only one guy
come on now

You think the brown hordes want to watch that?

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I recall most of the squatters not giving a shit about Penelope.

>City slickers lend me your energy, help me defeat Virgin Jew once and for all

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No, if you read it Odysseus actually comments on how he thought some of the suitors weren't such bad guys like the one who defended him when he was disguised as a beggar and another suitor broke a chair over his back.

But Athena straight up tells him to kill them all and she's the goddess of justice after all, so he iced the lot of them.

Let this lame ass meme die.

Start off small and you get into it. I likely have ADHD, so I play background music like classical to help me not get distracted.

>well nowhere does it say odysseus WASN'T a black trans woman with six fingers

why wouldn't you want to support the author
what if he stops making books?

Is there any adaptation where Athena isn't a cunt?

Just gonna leave this here, if y'all needed a laugh.

youtube.com/watch?v=DsG_yPKAor4

The Armand Assante version depicts her pretty favorably by modern standards.

Its worth noting that Athena's stance is more in line with ancient Greek concepts of justice than it is modern views. To the ancient Greeks the concept of hospitality (xenia) in terms of being a good guest and a good host was very important. Penelope essentially spends two decades being a good host to to the suitors while they take advantage of her hospitality and disrespect Odysseus in his own home. To the Greeks that's a grave injustice.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_(Greek)

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Everytime I put on music while reading, I get distracted by the music.

>offending the divine Athena
fuck off

t. lazy faggot that lives draining resources from others

Athena may have been a cunt but she's the most justified cunt among all the grecian deities. She's the best of them all

they already adapted them

>greek mythology
they would put in a bunch of homo shit and strong minorities and women. not even worth it anymore

Fagles is good. You wouldn't know though, you haven't finished a book since high school.

Seriously and unironically, Zack Snyder. Maybe not the Odyssey, but the Iliad yeah. It's probably the most bat-shit retardedly violent book ever written along with all the stuff with the gods, and that scene where Achilles fights a river. Snyder would excel with the source material given.

>Fagles
More like Robert FAGS

soon, but it's going to be based on the new translation by some wahman

Its blatantly obvious you've never read the Iliad if you would say such a retarded thing

LMAO upvoted

Why did I know this stupid complaint was coming?

>paganshit

Saw this painting at the Met the other day.

Is there anything more cucked and faggotpilled than a white person who shits on his own heritage?

The 1911 adaptation of Inferno was good, for 1911 anyway.

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Fuck pagans.

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Better go check on Jamal and your wife

Did Classics in high school and covered The Odyssey but not The Illiad. We convinced our teacher to take us to it to get an afternoon off school knowing we'd just end up ripping it apart for a week instead of doing Pompeian architecture. Wasn't too bad, Hector/Achilles fight is still a good watch. Also fun to see Legolas as a little bitch get his shit punched in by Mad-Eye

>he thinks homer is his heritage

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based

okay fags, tell me which version is the best?

Odysseus's other son (the one with Circe) ends up fucking Phenelophe

Has anybody seen Nostos: The Return?
Did they think it was good?

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He fucks both of those goddesses though, one of them for like 10 years

your reading on the Odyssey is somehow worse than the feminist reading of it.

>dude just read poems that were never preserved