How did he get tricked by the raptors? He's literally the fucking expert

deep

Imagine Muldoon facing real Velociraptors. Probably a blank shot in the air would've been enough to scare those overgrown chickens

In the book he blows them up with an RPG. Spielberg cheated us.

he wasn't specifically a velociraptor expert, plus he had only observed them in captivity; them having higher intelligence and ability to work as teams than they thought was a plot point of the movie

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Why did they mix up velociraptors and utahraptors?

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The movie, as good as it is, did not do the over the top action of the book justice. I would kill to have seen Muldoon pounding a bottle of whiskey as he’s firing a LAW from the passenger seat of a jeep at a fucking T Rex.

Doesn't he live in the book? Hammond dies right?

Unironically how would Grant have known that? How would a guy who digs up all kind of dinosaur bones know the hunting patterns of a specific species of raptor?

Can we fucking burn Jurassic World and go back to making Jurassic Park films? JW is nuWars tier bad.

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Yes and yes

He even described the very scene that killed him.

>SHOOT HER
>SHOOT HER

He didn't listen to his own advice from the beginning of the movie.

why are there dinosaur paintings if they went extinct millions of years ago?

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God i really miss the 90s. I cant believe i thought those times sucked back then.

Even experts make mistakes.

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They are more like deinonychus in the film.

because utahraptor sounds stupid and velociraptor sounds cool, literally the only reason

Having fun, little fella?

maybe it was shitposting? I wonder if 1,000 years from now pictures of Hayley Williams with a penis will confuse the shit out of historians.

*gets everyone killed*

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Look at those things what the fuck

How is being an expert at fucking supposed to help you kill raptors?

That's just a snake with udders, dude.

heh

Why did they just go in and lock the door?

He had the advantage in a narrow hallway with a shot gun.

the door locks were electronic remember? all the security systems were down, the raptors could have just pushed the door open without the locks.

Hammond spared no expense, except with the animal handlers.

Look above the handle.

It had an old school manual lock.

take it up with Spielberg

He kind of looks like David Niven in that picture.

She had such a great ass in this movie.

What a fucking hack.

If you read the book (and still somewhat in the movie) it’s clear that he was cutting corners everywhere he could. The biggest being that he hired one guy and his team to create a system to run the park, but gave them zero explanation on what it was for, then wouldn’t pay him when it wasn’t working as expected. Nedry’s only way of getting paid was to go to a competing genetics firm and sell them Hammond’s embryos.

I can't think of all of them but I recall Jurassic Park being filled with little mistakes and continuity errors like that.

The overarching theme of Jurassic Park is human oversight.

Man cannot control nature.
Man is a part of nature.
When man believe he controls nature he causes chaos with the unforseen consequences of his actions.

Why was Muldoon, the expert hunter killed? Because he only saw what was in front of his eyes at the time and overlooked the real danger to his side.
No one is incapable of folly

I realized this when I first saw the film at 8 years old.

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I checked on IMDB and there's a huge ass list of goofs
imdb.com/title/tt0107290/goofs

she wants to get muldooned

put your dick away, flyboy. i have a plan

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jesus, those things will tear you to shreds

the english jungle commando is my favorite archetype

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my favorite is the depressed Japanese salaryman

This desu

They’re reason was literally velociraptor sounds scarier

Their

The answer is Chili & Seabass

The real question is...

>Why didn't the pterodactyls just fly Nedry to the dock?

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>milksnake

pottery

Do you think nobody ever discovered fossils before modern man?
Ancient humans probably came across the bones of some fuck huge beastie millennia ago and passed on the legend by word of mouth.

Based and bookpilled

Changing the logo to the color Blue ruins the aesthetic so badly.

Funny thing, the original plan was that at the end of the movie they didn't have a plan for the T-Rex to show up to kill the raptors;
The plan was for Muldoon to show up, having survived the raptor attack, and shoot the raptors stalking Dr. Grant and the kids. Hammond was also considered.

yeah bro, ancient humans definitely had the capacity to dig up the exactly matching remains of one out of thousands of different dinosaurs, and accurately reconstructed it, and definitely knew what they looked like alive too

>fossils
This was made before the grass hills were formed, so maybe the giants dug out some dino bones LMAO.

>they used a sheep bleet instead of a goat
lol how do you fuck that up

>"Hey, Wu, the Velociraptor DNA is too damaged to be useful."
>"Just mix it with Utahraptor DNA. No one will notice."

I didn't mind JW overall but my main complaint is that it just looks like it was filmed in a studio. JP 1, 2 and even 3 all felt like they're actually on a tropical island.

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They often wouldn't have required digging to find, even today many of them are barely buried.
Prime locations are on dry lake beds and the like.
They skinned and ate animals every day, they knew a ribcage, skull and legs when they saw one. I don't think this is a reach at all.

he reads theories from specialists considering he's the only spcialist before this ingen stuff existed.

>dry lake beds and the like (e.g. deserts where humans didn't inhabit)
Yeah you're probably onto something there.
Did you also know the Smithsonian actively destroyed evidence of any nonmainstream view throughout the past 200 years?

>looks 40 years old here in JP
>30 fucking years later she looks 45 in Last Jedi

how does she do it bros?

they didn't discover the utah raptor until after the film was made, exonerating it in the process.

the book was edgy teen boy fantasy garbage

He's never hunted them before. It's an entirely new type of animal for him to track

He's the supercharged 90's hero archetype who just has a 6th sense about things in his area of expertise, like Bill Paxton in Twister

Hey dummy, that's how dragons were concepted. Retards found dinosaur fossils mixed with wing fossils and made an assumption, just like you.

Agreed, for me though, you just cant beat Sam Neil.

In the book he survived

Wasn't she like 22 when filming JP?

He also put a poisonous plant near the kiddie pool

Huh, well she was born in 1967
so, yeah,
>this was her at 25
She looks much older

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>She

Why even use a shotgun when you can just choke the shit out of the raptors with those thick fibrous thighs

It’s the awful haircut and grandma glasses

*Achillobator
Also
>For some time Velociraptor genus included what is now called Deinonynchus (so back then it was Velociraptor antirrhopus)
>Chricton writes Velociraptors as big animals, more or less Deinonynchus sized
>Paleontologists separate between Velociraptor mongoliensis and Deinonynchus antirrhopus because they are different enough to be considered two different genres
>Spielberg and co. still use Velociraptor for the movies because

As if the tumblr hair dye and space pijama fits her better

So does the Lawyer.
Ian and Hammond both die.

Underrated

God that CGI looks awful, I hope someone got fired for that.

Muldoon didn't deserve to die, he was an expert and new the hunting tactic he was killed with and on top of that unlike everyone else in the park he was the only one who respected the dinosaurs as dangerous predators and not as theme park amusements.

Why did he have to be english, would have been better if he was aussie

more likely they lived alongside dinosaurs

what the fuck muldoon wasn’t bogan????

I thought he was australian too but apparently he was english

Roland the Rhodesian was superior anyway

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>He's literally the fucking expert.
He even has a raptor face

In the 80's and 90's women dressed to appear more mature, now they dress to appear more infantile.

No, it's not just that

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thas a dude

Why didn't people like Jurassic Park 3?
It's god tier compared to Jurassic World?

For me I didn't like it because it feels like they made it to get the money.
Even Sam Neill has no energy in the film.
The parents and other guys aren't shocked by the dinosaurs enough and there is no spectacle. Not enough big set pieces or action. Soundtrack is noticeably poor.

>It's god tier compared to Jurassic World?
A lot of movies are god tier compared to JW.
I didn't like it because so many scenes didn't make sense and I liked none of the characters.

The formula was starting to get really old
>"we have to go to an abandoned island with dinosaurs left over from Jurassic Park because xyz reasons"
>"we get stuck in island because dinosaurs and now we must escape"
Both Lost World and 3 have very similar plots.
I didn't particularly care for Jurassic World but at least the plot was more original; now the park's open and large crowds are going to visit. They just needed to execute better.

you already answered it - low effort, money grab riding off the previous two movies

i always thought it was pretty alright, but not a necessary sequel

Why does Sam Neill not work in the film?
He seems completely bored and the actor seems to be there just to collect his check.

I'll give you that but The Lost World feels a lot more distinct than 3 and is far more exciting to watch.

Oh and speaking of the garbage heap that was Jurassic World, also I don't like that they're always wanting to trot out dinosaurs that are bigger and badder than the T-Rex
The Tyrannosaurus was already one of the most horrifying things to ever walk on land, we don't need to keep upping the ante with indominous rex or whatever shit they want to come up with
I think the franchised has been constantly mishandled ever since the second movie

>He seems completely bored and the actor seems to be there just to collect his check.

like his character in the movie lol, i admit the special effects blew me away as a kid, the best of the franchise by far

That's true but it shows through the 'acting' as well. I'm not sure if it's genius or terrible because it doesn't capture you like Hammond's love for the park does or Malcolm Grant's fear in The lost world.

The Spinosaurus is terrifying and the Pterdactors or whatever they are called look great but the spectacle is gone. It feels very lifeless for some reason. Like the dinos are background decorations.

I hate the indoraptor shit. It's soulless.

He died because he didn't know how they operated against dangerous prey. He might have know they attacked from the side but he didn't think one would actually bait him because they fed them fucking cows and goats in the enclosure.

Spielberg used to do that. Cast people whose faces mirror the opposition or the unknown. In Close Encounters he cast the kid who had a similar face to the aliens that kidnapped him. Quint was supposed to look like a human shark. Last Crusade had the dark mirror Indiana Jones in the beginning. It's why Muldoon has raptor eyes in the opening shot of Jurassic Park.

Ian lives actually. The book suggests he may be dying but he recovers in The Lost World. Dr. Wu gets killed though.

fuck the last movie was so awful. I fucking hate jworld.

Nah, he dies. It got reconned as fuck in the sequel book.

I think Jurassic World was actually going the right way about things. What if the park idea did suceed, etc. They just got very lazy and immediately started recreating the first movie again, along with a shitton of stupid decisions. Yeah, I'm sure a pack of raptors are cheap enough to produce and control to make them viable as weapons.

Malcolm died in the JP novel. It's mentionned that they aren't allowed to bury his body in the epilogue.
He was retconned into surviving in the sequel, but he absolutely died in the first book.

How was this dinky fence supposed to stop a tyrannosaur? Even if it was electrified with a gorillion niggawatts the thing could just run at it and the momentum of his insta-dead body would snap the cables like they were made of twine.

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even as a kid i wondered why he was such a faggot. especially after those guys saved their lives.

Yeah I honestly don't see the advantage of using cables instead of steel bars

Because he's english

Have you ever been shocked?

I love JP3 it's the best sequel hands down.

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If you look at the door you can see the manual lock doesn't actually do anything. There is no hole in the door for it.

I doubt it honestly. I've seen thinner cables hold up steelbeams off the shoulder of orion.

Muldoon is an honorary aussie!

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This

>I've eaten people you wouldn't believe...
>Aussies attacked by clever girls off the shoulder of the power station.
>I watched sweat drops glitter on the chest of Jeff Goldblum.
>All of these embryos will be lost, like a can of shaving cream in the mud.
>Geez...No wonder I'm extinct...

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To be fair, I don't know if anyone is an expert in hunting dinosaurs.

Threadly reminder this how it actually walked.

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That reconstruction is also incorrect. They took from different specimens of different ages. The proportions are wrong there too.

Threadly reminder that this has already been debunked.
Pic related is the current model

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Is there a field of study more prone to baseless speculation and conjecture than this?

studying the bones of the prey
violent clawmarks in certain areas suggest an ambush or some kind of distraction/flanking maneuver deal

Kek

looks like my attempt at drawing a horse desu senpai

Economics

oh so they were always fuses to a t-rex?

gender confirmation theory

It moves like Ricky Berwick

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Psychoanalysis

>the image that ruined shotguns forever.

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Sounds and Rexes were bros and they took walks with Adam and Eve every morning as demonstrated here...

Has there ever been a simulation to recreate the weight balance these supposedly accurate reconstructions would have? I know we're all used to seeing Dinosaurs with tiny claws that walks like a fucking biped of all things, but realistically, I don't see how their fuckhuge heads and entire torso can be counterbalanced by their tails alone, unless when in forward motion. And don't hit me with a "sharks also constantly have to move" shitpost.

Sounds and Rexes were bros and they took walks with Adam and Eve every morning as demonstrated here...

This. There's a good chance we're missing something when it comes to what dinosaurs looked like, since our vision of them is pretty fucking dumb and doesn't seem functional at all.
buzzfeednews.com/article/natashaumer/dinosaur-animals

dont know if accurate or not, but that would have been kino

All Yesterdays is a great book

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It's possible that spino moved like this while partially submerged in water

Yep

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I think they're both meant to be Kenyan (Muldoon definitely is in the original book), though they'd still probably have English accents.

But how would they ever STAND UP or MOVE.
This bothers me so much right now and I managed to never think about it, but I'm THIS close to starting some laymen's volume calculations to try and demonstrate how stupid the entire T-Rex-style biped stance/walk is. Sure, you can draw/animate the tail as fucking massive, but it doesn't even have the bone structure to carry enough muscle or weight to balance an upright stance.
Pic 100% related.

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This has to be the dumbest clickbait article in existence.

Theology

they aren't birds or reptiles. they were there own thing that we'll never really understand because we have nothing like them.

(Apparently "Tembo" means "elephant" in Swahili, supporting my claim.)

But then there's scientists who declare they walked exactly like chickens do now when you stick a bit of weight on their butts while releasing drawings that completely contradict their own statements of how the tail was enough to balance out the torso. I'm going crazy here.
dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2553957/Mystery-T-Rex-walked-solved-scientists-fake-dinosaur-tails-CHICKENS.html

they'd be fine at putting bones together if they found them. they hunted all the time, they understood the skeletal structure of animals. i mean they were probably wrong but so are we.

that said i think that painting is either bullshit or coincidence.

yeah they're mostly just guessing but its educated guesses. just get in there and prove them wrong, i don't think its that hard.

Really srong bone structure make you look more mature when you're young. It also gives drooping skin somewhere to go when you're older instead of just sagging

this we have no way of knowing what any of the soft tissue looked like. we only have fragments of bones.

its like when they found half a toe on some island and decided hobbits were a thing. fuck off with that nonsense.

Lol more art like this please. Where did you find that?

But that's the thing, I have no idea about anatomy, bone density and all the factors these fuckers spend their entire careers figuring out. So I'm assuming they actually believe the shit they're peddling and I'm just not able to see it.
Hell, I'm unable to see how an animal weighing 4000-8000 kg would be able to hunt anything slower than a fucking tree. I know elephants weigh up to 6000 themselves, but the best they can do is a short sprint and maybe trample something to death. And those fuckers have four gigantic fucking feet and their balance is still pretty fucking clumsy.

>Dragons were real
On a serious note though, they'd still have to adhere to basic physical laws.

it has to be made up. i mean they're educated guesses but i think you're right. and i don't think anyone is really arguing that they KNOW how they functioned but we gotta try to figure it out with what we got. we've changed our entire understanding of them many times and we will again.
see
we only have bone, god knows what their organs or muscles could actually do.

>negotiating with raptors
Shit movie

>Theology

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we'll know for sure soon.
bbc.com/earth/story/20150512-bird-grows-face-of-dinosaur

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Cloning might actually be the only way. I'm all for it, Jurassic Park be damned.

They are both Kenyans. There’s a deleted scene in the lost world where it shows him in a bar in his native Mombasa

Dinosaur footprints have been found. They tell us a lot about their locomotion, gait, speed, etc

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we can't really tell from those either since jesus was carrying them.

It's just like my Animorphs novels!

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Kek

Exactly my point, there is a lot of stuff going into how scientists think these ancient shits were moving around. I'm entirely aware of my own ignorance, but instead of being amused by it as I am so often when I come across it, my lack of understanding how these fuckers could balance themselves drives me nuts.

job 40:
15 “Look now at the behemoth,which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox.
16 See now, his strength is in his hips, and his power is in his stomach muscles.
17 He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are tightly knit.
18 His bones are like beams of bronze, his ribs like bars of iron.
19 He is the first of the ways of God; only He who made him can bring near His sword.
20 Surely the mountains yield food for him, and all the beasts of the field play there.
21 He lies under the lotus trees, in a covert of reeds and marsh.
22 The lotus trees cover him with their shade; the willows by the brook surround him.
23 Indeed the river may rage, yet he is not disturbed; he is confident, though the Jordan gushes into his mouth,
24 Though he takes it in his eyes, or one pierces his nose with a snare."

check fucking mate atheists

Jurassic World was still better than the clusterfuck that was Jurassic Park 3

Deal with it.

The shock doesn't matter if he's already charging the fence, by the time he is shocked he's already plowing into the fence. He could die instantly and his dead weight would still take down the fence.

The rex snapped those cables with ease once the power was out, so they definitely aren't strong enough to withstand a charging rex.

>deserts where humans didn't inhabit
Retard

kek

>being this wrong

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kek I hope Steve's final words were "clever girl"
RIP stevey

nah his last words were:
"its okay they don't normally swim backwards"
and then it did.

It's implied that the raptor in the beginning of the movie was 'The Big One' but he ordered it shot and killed after it killed the worker.

What do you think, senpaitachi?

could be a giant sloth

>The rex snapped those cables with ease once the power was out, so they definitely aren't strong enough to withstand a charging rex
How was he gonna charge them if he was below them?

Nice job user

Might get an actual job preparations dinosaur bones lads, pray for me

climatology

African Elephant top speed is 25 mph. You're complaining that an animal roughly the size of an elephant was roughly as fast as an elephant.

Difficult for a Spinosaur as there are no compete skeletons of it. Even the famous Egyptian specimen that was destroyed in WW2 was vastly incomplete. T-rex is easier as there are specimens that are 90% complete. It's more difficult with Spinosaurus as they have to make inferences based on related species but with different body proportions. It's all dicey. Only Megalosaurus is even more badly understood.

Not only that, but the T-Rex has a longer legs and stride. The femur is only have the circumference of an elephant femur, Longer and thinner legs than an elephant.

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A real hunter wouldnt have gone into the brush with his stock folded and would have shot immediately upon seeing the decoy. There is also no need to take a rest when shooting thirty yards with a twelve gauge.

Still would have got jumped though i guess

how do you differentiate a frontal attack from a flank attack 65 million years later?

>have
"half" I meant

/thread

the chad spino vs the virgin t-rex

lel

Cool

Why did the dinosaur kill himself?

He missed out on the chili and seabass luncheon

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Damn!

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