Limitless

"You only use 10% of your brain" is a myth

adderall

>tfw buying 15 of them shortly

What does adderall do and can it be obtained legally?

It's all fun and games OP until you realize the IRL counterparts last only roughly two hours

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okay change it to full access/master control. Same shit.

imagine actually putting the brain you already have to use instead of waiting for some fantasy superpower

Stop fapping 5 times a day and you just might be able to use more than 10% of your brain.

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Adderall is prescription meth

why you have to be like this?

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>takes pill
>doesnt just learn everything about chemistry to make more pills
this movie is for retards like OP

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>just learn chemistry

LMAO
that's not how pharmacy works, user

>says the retard on Yea Forums

A false premise based on my dubs and the subconscious isn't a structural part of the brain in and of itself and oh yeah, it's an old wive's tale that has been debunked for years.

Why the fuck are there multiple threads of this old gay movie? Who is coordinating this shit?

>Not rating Mike and Ike

Homophobe

>nobody in this thread knows about the advanced nootropics I know about
Feels good being superior.

but he did do that

Imagine having access to any portion of your brain at all

i'm on lucidril right now. doesn't make me limitless but it aggravates my add like a motherfucker

tell us more smart guy

>brainlets taking adderal and babbys first nootropics

it's meme drugs he reads on longecity and reddit that he probably can't afford

so you are just going to leave us at that?

>he fell for the nootropics scam
lol you are a retard

>brainlets taking adderal and babbys first nootropics

>implying I'm going to just give away 10+ years of internet research to a pleb

how is a great premise? one dude becomes super smart, there is a drug out there that can turn random people into geniuses over night ok scratch that actaully pretty interesting

no he didnt

based

Stay dumb, retard lmao

if you had "master control" you would have to regulate every system in your body your self
you would have to think about oxygenating you blood
you would have to think about breathing
you would have to tell your kidneys to filter your blood

you are really fucking dumb

Yes he did. The manlet tries to get control of him at the end by saying he’s bought out all his labs and he tells the short fat fuck he created a better, permanent and non addictive version

>my brain is suporior because i buy jewtropics
what stupid people believe
if you were so smart you wouldnt need that shit, imbecile

he didn't do it sooner enough
or any of the other users
but it kinda break the premise if it does anyway

Reddit hivemind response

adderall doesn't make you smarter it just makes you more motivated and engaged / focused

I had Concerta for a while, I think it's pretty much the same. It helped me with a lot of work related stuff. I was more focused, but also I felt like my brain was processing more. It's hard to explain. But it came with a cost, after you finish working, your brain is still processing stuff, you feel stuck in a loop of ideas.

No drug or substance can make you smarter, they only create a chemical imbalance in your body that can lead to dependence. The only real way to become smarter is to read books

Does reading Lord of the rings and shit makes you smarter? lol

Where do you work out?

>kids/students saying adderall
just take a few grams of speed you wetties

I already use more than 10% of my brain because I'm am extremely smart. I have a very high IQ. Doctors are baffled

Is there anything more you can tell me? I really want to do better at work but I lack focus and forget shit too quickly

Gold's, why do you ask?

Trump?

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While it wouldn't be as good as reading a textbook or research paper, at the very least it could increase your vocabulary so I'd say yes

>read 2 chapters of non fiction a day
>30 mins of exercise a day
>cut fap down to once a week
>dont abuse drugs or alcohol
>take a b vitamin complex

theres ur limitless bro

Pretty sure they ignored the "only 10% of your brain" thing mostly.

Series was comfy as fuck and would have gotten five seasons if it was on NBC instead.

>fap once a week

If you ever take it drink 3 to 4 liters of water a day. It will dehydrate you like a motherfucker and give you cottonmouth and headaches if you don't.
Don't take them every day. Skip one or two days a week to keep your tolerance up.

fuck i already do that and i need more than that bro.

>read 2 chapters of non fiction a day
and forget most of it in not so long time?
Fuck, I don't even remember half of the shit they taught us in university 3 years ago.

It's crystal meth in prescribed doses. Part of the reason they know ADHD is a real thing is that meth actually calms them down rather than makes them hyped.

The plot twist is it also multiplies by 10 your bad habits, addictions, manias e.t.c.

it fucks with your serotonin and prolactin.

Is this a meme?

>take a legally prescribed stimulant that is similar
>think I will finally be able to focus on stuff
>instead it just feels like caffeine only with a bit less restlessness
>still can't even watch a movie uninterrupted

Cutting out masturbation completely is a bad idea. Masturbating sparingly keeps your sex drive active, keeps testosterone levels maxed, and decreases risk of prostate cancer.

That's a really funny post the way I read it.

And then in the series it's instead that he created a "vaccine" that stops the degenerative effects and uses access to it to control people.

using 100% of your brain is basically having a seizure

yeah adderall is sort of like a baby version of the drug in limitless. you can focus and get extremely productive while using it.

>It's crystal meth
imagine being this retarded

Means you were either taking it without a prescription or you were misdiagnosed. People with ADHD have a different brain chemistry.

Reading is a more effective method of learning than just listening to someone else.

Yeah thats why he said once a week rather than doing it at an excessive amount

.t chemist

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I thought you'd get the joke from that political cartoon where the Chad asks the big headed nerd where he works out and he says the library

This guy is undoubtedly lying. Any nootropic you could find that would actually elicit objective effects beyond those of classic stimulants would require much more than "internet research" to validate. The cutting edge of performance enhancing drugs right now are all substances that stand a great chance to permanently cripple you because they have yet to be tested extensively and their pharmacology is only barely understood.

This user may have discovered something that works amazingly for them but to pretend he's found the true miracle drug- and through just research - is a heroic effort in bullshit.

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he said it's not meth and the one you just posted says it's not meth

>It's not Meth! It's my original character Adderall
Based desu

That shit would be hell for me.
>can't shut off my brain at all during the day, constant stream of memories, ideas and internal monologue
>if i smoke weed brain goes into overdrive and i make the wildest fucking theories about everything
>last time i did was playing chess with a friend and i theorized that the way we play is based on our cultural backgrounds moreso than on who we are as regular people and/or intelligence
>can't enjoy music, movies and most books because my brain just blocks everything off with thoughts
>studying is hell as well as i focus on the dumbest shit like a word and elaborate about it
>talking to people about complicated subjects is hell as i think faster than i talk, often mixing up ideas and come off as a bumbling schizo to most
Only time i feel normal is when i'm drunk, which is most days these past five years. I really wish i wasn't alive and i feel like i'm mentally ill, autism or schizophrenia.

Based

>implying i didn't read textbooks in uni
you forget most of the shit that you don't use in your life. Why would brain store information you never access?

Where did this bullshit myth that you only use half your brain even start. Have these retards ever looked at a brain scan before

Watch the movie, smartass

This but unironically, also LSD.

Try Robocough it really helps me get through the day

Hey, that extra hydrogen molecule is important.

You do should remember most of it, your brain just isn't functioning well enough to recognize when what you've learned is relevant enough to make you remember it.

I'm smarter than you
:)

I'm not lying
The fact that hardly anyone on Yea Forums knows about these advanced nootropics is quite shocking but it makes sense as you guys don't give a single fuck about your health, the is no medical or health board here and everyone goes the psychology route instead of biochemistry route when it comes to their mental problems

>does big cums

sEmEn ReTeNtIoN !

Clearly you've never taken it \ needed it. It legitimately gives some people an extra SD of IQ. Whether that's "just focus" or "engagement" doesn't matter, the results speak for themselves.

>text books
>relevant

lmao

Just need high t. Then any man will make something of himself

Why do retards take it literally? They obviously mean ten percent of the full capacity, as in the total human potential.

You don't know anything about your nootropics either. Guess what? If they're so obscure, that means no enough research has been done on them yet, which means that like always the 5 million IQ you and your Longecity friends like to LARP about getting is still as always at best placebo effect and at worst actively harmful. If there really were a magical intelligence pill, then the entire industry would be literally killing to get it.

Don't black men have the highest testosterone levels? Pretty sure it's testosterone + intelligence (+ a little bit of daddy's money)

If you have anxiety, that is what Phenibut feels like.

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Movie was shit too. In the end the mc learned nothing, just take pill to be smart.

It actually is!
The sole difference of the compounds is the absence of the methyl group (another carbon and 3 hydrogens) on adderall. They are both amphetamines. Their effects are identical and they both have addictive qualities. The methyl group on crystal meth allows it to be taken up by your body and cross the blood brain barrier a lot quicker than adderall. This means that crystal meth will increase your dopamine levels five times higher than an equivalent dose of adderall. That one group makes it easier to regulate adderall dosing, but the similarities of the drugs can't be glossed over. It's still easy as hell to abuse and become addicted to adderall.

I'm not sure what sources you're quoting but that's the opposite of the truth. In individuals not suffering from an impairment, adderall has regularly been shown to decrease performance as measured in terms of capability. Which is to say, across most forms of aptitude testing (SATs, logic puzzles, IQ tests) adderall makes you dumber. It does however increase satiety, resilience and focus which can appear to make one smarter.

Basically if you're not tired or underfed, adderall wont be helpful on a test. From experience it can result in a nitpicking mentality and preoccupation with trivialities when it comes to papers.

Wow i can use 11% and have prostate cancer.

It has nothing to do with semen retention. If it did then it'd be better to not masturbate for a month or better, a year

that stuff made shia lebeouf crazy

>Basically if you're not tired or underfed, adderall wont be helpful on a test.
It's literally a stimulant. It's not exactly gonna put you at baseline.

t. retard

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What about dosages, i'd guess methheads take a lot bigger ones that just one dinky adderall pill. But maybe meth would be healthier if if came in a normal pill instead of being made on a stove top.

Haven't seen it but it can't possibly be any more retarded than Lucy.

A plastic polymer is nothing like a lipid polymer. It's also incomparable to one functional group, the differences of a lipid and plastic make the whole molecule. But an idiot like you would rather beleive facebook science

If you're a burger, does this exist elsewhere? Also it says it's fucking cough medecine. I once got high on Robitussin, never again, what's the secret here?

A typical dose of adderall is 5-10mg. A typical hit of meth is 250mg. Of course street meth is going to be far from pure and contain harmful byproducts that will definitely hurt you. But it's easy to see why people who try meth for the first time would become instantly addicted

WOW I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!!1

>You don't know anything about your nootropics either.
but I do

>hat means no enough research has been done on them yet
that's not what that means lol
just means they aren't available in western cuck countries

> placebo effect
ahahahHAHAHA
awww, you really wish this to be true

>worst actively harmful
Nope

>then the entire industry would be literally killing to get it.
HOW? The entire industry is monopolized using government power.

>movie is great, series is trash
The series was comfy.
It took a few episodes for the show to get going, but once they let the lead character who was taking the drug go with it, he truly made the show great.
The writing got problematic towards the end, but the show was great.

>t. wants to stay a brainlet

The man who controls intelligence pills controls the world. It's essentially the singularity in chemical form. At that asymptotic point of power, the government doesn't mean more than an ant.

>the government doesn't mean more than an ant.
The government controls information and can restrict distribution.
This is why nootropics are mostly unheard of.

Drugs for attention deficit disorder.
According to the Pharmacist I talked to at a 24 hour drug store near an Ivy League university I live near, the Pharmacist is filling prescriptions all the time for drugs like Adderall, and also for drugs like Valium so the students can relax later.

No. Although I’ve tried Nootropics and Adderall in the past.

Adderall does not make you smarter, it just makes it very easy to focus on something you would normally find boring (reading for extended periods becomes a non-issue).

Nootropics (depending on which one you choose), are basically a mild and over the counter alternative to adderall.

So in theory, how would one begin to manufacture adderall or a stimulant like it at home in a lab? What over the counter things could use to manufacture said product? Asking for a friend haha

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They try, but no one can entirely control information. Case in point: you, who apparently knows of these magic pills despite the best efforts of this shadow government. Suffice to say, if stupid brain training apps on your phone became a billion dollar industry, then pills that actually increase your intelligence would simmer for a whole 2 seconds before blowing over the military, the academy, sports, business, there isn't a single area that wouldn't demand them which would make them by far the most precious commodity in this world. It is simply a statistical impossibility that pills that actually work would not be known yet, your LARPing doesn't hold up, sorry.

There is but I can't tell you what it is.

Some people are on it to it's but it's not one pill , it's a combination of pills and nutrition and herbs and it 's difficult to maintain for long

May as well go the whole yard and sell meth at that point.

Glonigger detected

See

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OK, whatever. Show me your score on a legitimate administered-by-a-psychologist IQ test before taking this elixir, then show me your score afterwards, controlling for all other variables but the elixir. Either you or the people who are on it, surely one of you can provide evidence.

Can adderall also make you remember things better? After I've been in a meeting for over an hour I already start to forget most of it

Na not a glonigger.

I'll give you a tip, the Benzedrex nasal inhaler they sell EVERYWHERE has a cotton piece inside, you ingest it, by either cutting the cotton into little pieces or distilling it in lemonade for 24 hours gives you the same effects of stimulants.
Also, benzedrine was the original adderall back in the day, hence the name "bennies"

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>but no one can entirely control information
no shit
they can mostly control it though
thats why the fda and ama monopolies exist

>then pills that actually increase your intelligence would simmer for a whole 2 seconds before blowing over the military, the academy, sports, business
Why would they?
People are brainwashed and get their medical information from doctors only.
These things are suppressed for a reason, this isn't even controversial thing to say.

>LARPing
man you really wish I was lying or wrong or something
why are small brains so pathetic?

>It is simply a statistical impossibility that pills that actually work
Yet they worked for me and many others lol

You're supposed to forget meaningless information.

I bet you read rationalwiki.org

Am I correct?

No. It all is stored in brain. You only cant access it because you don't have the access to 100% of your brain.
Have you even seen the movie???

I know that but I'm forgetting important shit I'm actually meant to remember

Wrong. I just want reliable data, otherwise I'm just wasting my time listening to bullshit per usual.

Possibly, but not because adderall is making you recall easier.

If you had taken adderall prior to the meeting, each speaker would have had your Full Attention, and you would not have mentally wandered elsewhere

>meetings
>important

Alcohol in moderate quantities is good for you.

sometimes the science isn't so clear so you have to experiment if you want to see any results

if science was done your way it would take years

meanwhile a lot of these nootropics are actually working for people

Sorry, I’m on mobile.
My response to your question was here

I take 10mg twice a day, it just helps me stay awake...maybe, maybe concentrate a bit better...there are many reports of it causeing sudden death when abused...so I never tried more than what my doc told me.

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I know you're shitposting but the "only 10% of your brain" thing is really a meme

Not true. Hypnosis is the skill of communicating withe the subconscious

>all this tiresome back and forth about something you are so sure is true, refuse to disclose and seemingly defies any straightforward logic
You aren't a member of some shadowy cabal of nootropic users. If the thing you're proclaiming exists and works as universally as you suggest, it wouldn't be a mystery. Nootropic and brain enhancers have long been an area with a wide demographic of very interested people. You can continue to keep up this fantastical charade but you're either lying or you've deluded yourself.

Only the top 1% has access to those drugs.

>If it did then it'd be better to not masturbate for a month or better, a year

That's what I'm saying. Tantra suggests 8 weeks, but longer to recover from years of frequent ejaculation.

Thanks, I understand what you mean, I'm just reluctant to try it because I've never done anything like it before and have heard of people crashing down from it after a few weeks

Broadly speaking, Nootropics are what you're asking about.

Popular ones include:
>Modafinil
>Piracetam (and the rest of the racetam family)
>Theanine + Caffeine

But be warned and do your research, OP. A lot of these supplements can have horrible and often permanent side effects

>Why would they?
First of all, for the express reason that they already do. Across all the four spheres I mentioned, particularly in IT, sports, and the military, there is active promotion of performance-enhancing substances, by the military.

Second, to home in on the military point, why would they not use these drugs to create super soldiers with massive intelligence? Moreover, DARPA is in fact actively researching intelligence-enhancing avenues. Is it all for show?

Third, it does not matter if most people are brainwashed. It enough for some people not to be, get their intelligence boost from the black market, succeed far more than their peers, arouse suspicion and curiosity, attract public attention, and start an apocalyptic snowball effect.

To keep this secret would be like trying to keep gold secret to prevent the gold rush. It is simply impossible.

this is nothing, remember lucy?
god fucking damnit

>ITT
>Brainlets daydreaming of becoming intelligent through drugs

the absolute state of americans

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Science is done my way, it is literally the scientific method. Without it you can't claim to know they're actually working for people, you just believe their anecdotes because that's what you want to believe. Meanwhile no actual study supports your claims.

>You aren't a member of some shadowy cabal of nootropic users. If the thing you're proclaiming exists and works as universally as you suggest, it wouldn't be a mystery. Nootropic and brain enhancers have long been an area with a wide demographic of very interested people. You can continue to keep up this fantastical charade but you're either lying or you've deluded yourself.
I actually have a lot of information.
I just don't want to disclose it.

I mean you've gotta admit it's a pretty cool fantasy and not too over the top

>First of all, for the express reason that they already do. Across all the four spheres I mentioned, particularly in IT, sports, and the military, there is active promotion of performance-enhancing substances, by the military.
The vast majority of these people have never even TRIED the stuff I'm talking about.
If they did and it got popular it would be a lot bigger.

>why would they not use these drugs to create super soldiers with massive intelligence?
I don't know?
The government is incompetent and retarded?
Why do they spend billions on failed military equipment?

My point was more that people who are perfectly capable of performing well won't benefit from adderall. There's this idea - as shown in this thread- that adderall and smart drugs will take your current level of performance (x) and make it x+2. I'm saying that's not true. At best it can correct a deficiency of x-2 back to x. Or allow you to perform at x for a longer time. It's a cliched observation but adderall has yet to be shown to do anything that cant be achieved by proper habits.

>dude science is done in universites with peer review ONLY, anything else isn't science even if it uses the scientific method

imagine being this brainlet

>Meanwhile no actual study supports your claims.
the funny thing is countless studies do, but I'm not going to tell you about them

It is based on science. You can google intelligence enhancing drugs and find 10s of thousands of article of drugs, chemicals, herbs, behaviors and practices that boost intelligence.

Mostly marginally or statistically influence it, however there are combinations that exists that dramatically do so.

For whatever reasons you're mindlessly angry that other people have had some success.

Why don't you ask questions instead?

Jenkem

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Alright guys I realized I've just been acting like a complete faggot this whole time so I will disclose.

Here goes the recipe for my limitless potion, WILL raise your IQ by at least 100 points, money back guaranteed:
>Coffee
>Green tea
>Modafinil
>Adderall
>Meth
>Ashwaganda
>Blueberries
>Eggs
>Chia seeds
>Cocaine
>Phenibut
>Cerebrolysin
>K3 D4 Vitamins
>Creatine
>Nicotine
>Female feet
>Sex

exactly. I'd love to be super smart

Yes and I'm again saying it isnt information that is secret in any way. The sum total of information you have is as much as anyone with even a passing interest in nootropics would find because it is such an overly populated field.

You can equate it to dieting or exercise. Nobody is going to go into a thread saying they've found the super secret diet and exercise that makes you gain 10lbs of muscle a week. It doesnt exist and if it did, everyone would know about it. That's how the field works. The same applies to performance enhancement.

These work for me:
>fasting
>nofap+noporn
>fish oil+zinc+magnesium+b-complex
>CBD

All together lead to a pretty focused lifestyle. In general, a lot of brain fog is created by shit that seems pleasurable first, like porn, carb- and sugarloaded food and excessive sleep. Depriving yourself of that stuff will lead to you being able to think 'straight'. And if you've got the discipline to add a half hour of working out (pull-ups, push-ups, weight lifting ideally) and decent sleep schedule (bed and awake at the same time every night/day), you've got the access.

>Nobody is going to go into a thread saying they've found the super secret diet and exercise that makes you gain 10lbs of muscle a week

It's called steroids and protein
It does exist and everyone knows about it

You refuse to test your results in a reliably quantifiable manner (IQ) in a reliable statistic manner (controlling for variables). You're the one who's refusing to use the scientific method to try and reach truth because you're rightfully scared it will shatter your beliefs that intelligence can be improved using some kind of concoction. And trust me, you don't know of any studies that I don't.

People would believe you've taken a smart pill and that it worked if you didn't act like a retard

Work on that aspect of your posts before trying to bullshit people on the Internet for kicks. You just come across as mentally ill.

>sex

goddamnit I was so close

I recall reading a few years ago that DARPA was working on a new drug that would eliminate the need to sleep and keep soldiers at 100% condition as long as they were taking it. Did anything come from that?

>But maybe meth would be healthier if if came in a normal pill instead of being made on a stove top.
you can get it in a normal pill, it's called Desoxyn

do you collect the feet from cadavers? also by "sex" do you mean the various mucosae and bodily fluids produced by it?

Please don't tell people to do that shit. Benzedrex cottons give you the most uncomfortable high with awful jitters and racing heartbeat. A meth high is unironically cleaner than using that shit.

>You refuse to test your results in a reliably quantifiable manner
I don't refuse. I just haven't done it yet.
It's you leftist that refuse to use IQ.

>ou're the one who's refusing to use the scientific method
Trying different substances and seeing the effects on my mind IS science. It's a crude way of doing science but it's still science.

>And trust me, you don't know of any studies that I don't.
HAHAHA Oh man..

I'm barely paying attention to this thread rn

The only ones I know of is iodine which only works prenatally, and creatine and nicotine which don't work reliably \ only work for a handful of people, and caffeine. All of which only increase IQ by about ~5 points, maybe 10 points in an extreme outlier, but that's it. The rest, adderall, modafinil, whatever the fuck, only affect your focus and attention.

>Use brain functions that exists to keep you alive
>To do other things
Well, its a double edged sword. I would assume the first effect is reverting the brain to a less static place, so you can use your conscious part for more. And then adding some recall, so the conscious part is more useful.
If you where to compromise life functions after that, you could really get somewhere. Even if its a good chance to die from forgetting to instruct your heart to stay at proper rythms. Or forgetting to adjust the chemical balance of the body.

So with master control you get some perks.
Like being able to force the body to do doping, which it won't do naturally. But at the same time you are always at risk at forgetting to do any of the things that keeps the body going, by manipulating hormone balances and whatnot.

But he do just that. But only after suffering several setbacks.

Incorrect

You can't just read 2 chapters a day, you also need to process it. Which means learning diary, oral reading, and whatnot exists.
And you need to rotate around the uses, so you increase your general learning ability.

DEAR RETARDS: THE "PERCENT" THING IS A FUCKING MYTH.

HERE'S HOW TO MAXIMIZE YOUR INTELLECT:

1. UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE CREATED YOU
2. STUDY THE LARGEST CATEGORIES OF THE UNIVERSE FIRST TO UNDERSTAND CONTEXT, NOT JUST RANDOM FACTS.
3. STUDY HISTORY, RELIGION, SCIENCE, PHILOSOPHY, ART, ETC.

IMAGINE BEING GOD. IMAGINE HAVING PERFECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNIVERSE AND FUNCTIONING PERFECTLY WITHIN NATURAL LAWS TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS EFFICIENTLY. THAT'S WHAT WISDOM IS.

Ah yes of course, the famous science of using your brain to observe your brain. Very unbiased, but very based.

>But at the same time you are always at risk at forgetting to do any of the things that keeps the body going, by manipulating hormone balances and whatnot.

but wouldn't the control just go back to subconsciousness when we aren't actively trying to controlling it? Just like breathing and blinking.

I'm not that guy but I think you mean boost performance. Nothing has been shown, with enough review, to boost intelligence beyond what can be assumed to be from conflating factors (an increase or focus for example).

Also Id imagine that user is, rightfully, annoyed at the same taking the piss bullshit that comes up in every nootropics thread. It's always the usual "if you know you know" vagueisms and not a single person who claims to have so meticulously worked to find a nootropic regimen that's legit actually having proof of it.

>dude everything is a placebo, people can get drunk on non-alcoholic beer if you tell them there's alcohol in it lmao

>Nothing has been shown, with enough review, to boost intelligence beyond what can be assumed to be from conflating factors (an increase or focus for example).
This user REALLY wishes this to be true.
He's going to continue to be a brainlet lol

>Are there any limitless drugs irl?
yeah, botulinum
you should try some

youtu.be/3bOZvZqmSmA?t=257

It's not just about stimulation.

Activating more areas of the brain and increasing cross hemispheric production-psychedelics
Improving weak areas of brain function-nootropics
Ensuring high levels of neurotransmitters and neurotransmitter production-nutrition, supplementation

Of course the right amount of stimulants help, but when you're going to have a goddamn heart attack

>dude I'm being completely objective when I say drinking my mom's milk mixed with my dad's semen gave me like 2 million IQ points, trust me man if someone knows my brain it's me bro, I fucking love science!

This. "Le 10% of brain" is just what his retarded friend said to him and it was probably not meant literally.

yeah, but i'm pretty sure that was just to scare him.
Now, the CEO guy can't even get on his level using the pill himself since he destroyed all the labs.

No, Desoxyn is prescribed meth

Drugs are made via chemical synthesis. If you know basic organic chemistry, know the synth routes, and have access to/can make the necessary chemicals, you can make many drugs

What, racetams?

This, basically, but iirc low-doses were shown to build new neural connections and had similar results to something like Lion's Mane

Adderall is "speed", as it's a mixture of amphetamine salts

No, it's not "crystal meth" as it's neither methamphetamine nor a crystalline form which is smoked and absorbed directly by the lungs into the bloodstream for greater effect

It's pharmaceutical amphetamine (a mix of 2 isomers of amp, technically)

Let me make this absolutely clear: none of what you just said has any relevance on intelligence from a neuroscientific perspective, they're just buzzwords. No right combination of LSD and vegetables is gonna produce more myelin in your brain, and it's not gonna make your neurons bigger and more numerous, all of which are qualities that have actually been associated with fluid intelligence.

Fair enough, I did excuse that when I was making my post. But it still speaks to my point. Anyone who looks for a "secret" way to get big fast will find steroids and protein. But let's say there was an even more effective way or better anabolic steroids. It would come to light extrenely quickly because of the nature of bodybuilding as an interest on the web.

For example, modafinil is widespread and nearly univerally used on Silicon Valley due to it being a stimulant that has been shown not to decrease performance across use. Aka you can stay up two days and not be a complete retard zombie like you will become on adderall. Because the market - programming - has the need it has found its answer and if there was a better answer it would come around as well.

You're just refusing to do any research.

Even if we exclude temporary performance enhances, there is plenty of research on neurogenesis. Which is permanent.

Just take 1g benadryl for a month, then stop; the subsequent hypomania makes you feel smarter till you realise how flimsy self-assessments on intelligence are, panic at your own idiocy then scour the net for 'ideal' nootropic stacks to raise whatever 'cognition' betrayed you by taking such drugs in the first place.

Yeah, like those London Cab Drivers right? Too bad they actually performed worse on general memory tests after their training though.

i do all of these and i'm so tired and sleepy all the time i legitmetly think i might have some chronig ilness, i just feel so bad all the time, i just want to sleep through entire day but that feels like a waste, but i dont have enough strenght to do anything else

Just research nootropics

the brain capacity bullshit was beaten into the ground in Lucy

youtube.com/watch?v=567KlA26EwY

I am guessing
>Sleep routines during waking hours destroy performance/focus
>Doesn't work
>Still worse than amphetamine at a rave party
>Still to far off the human body blackbox to make educated drug guesses
>Makes the body ignore the tired signs, but not the fatigue that sets in from working/being alert, so people can't detect they are walking around like drunk people

The true risk of a '100% drug' is that it doesn't.
Or B: The withdrawal symptoms is that you can't just relax back to auto pilot, meaning you die horribly from imbalance

>it's the SAME thing
>except with these differences
so it's not meth

>not an argument
lol
Why are you so mad that you can see a positive or negative effect from taking a substance.
This basic fact proves you wrong.
I literally said it's a crude method of science, but it's science non the less.

You can continue to stay stupid if you want, it's up to you pea brain.

I don't have any reason to desire smart drugs to exist. I have been tested (multiple times throughout my life) and currently perform far beyond standard levels. Im hesitant to believe there is a drug that will universally raise intelligence but I can guanrantee there is not one that will raise mine any useful amount. I don't know what you do professionally or academically but I've done and continue to do things most longecity larpers can only wish they could.

Yes, you just proved yourself wrong dummy. Amphetamine and methamphetamine are 2 different chemicals, as your drawing shows, and differ by a methyl group.

It's not just one hydrogen, it's a methyl group, so its 3 hydrogens attached to a carbon

And the sole difference between meth and ecstasy is a methylenedioxy group (a carbon, 2 hydrogens, and two oxygens)

nice bookposting
>ITT: future heart attacks

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movies and tvs being so serious about shit thats wrong is so infuriating because people see it being played so deadly obvious they believe in it
i watched children of men like 5 years ago and for years i believed in tinotrus your brain being unable to hear this sound from now on and only recently discovered its bullshit

Microdosing LSD or shrooms

this, it’s so fucking annoying that people say that shit and try to act smart, talking about “unlocking” the rest of your brain..

>Microdosing LSD
Less effective than just improving learning habits, or spending time learning.
>Schrooms
Same issue.

that would lead to some serious fucking mental illness
iirc the whole reason why vietnam and afterwards gave people more mental illness than any war before was because people were being flying betweeen hot zones with little rest
imagine if this shit was in public use and you have 16 hour work a day being minimum.

For awhile i wanted to believe those anons were serious, had rigorously researched their claims and were truly going to prove that something improved their G scores. At this point, I realise none of them know what they're talking about and are either just having fun being annoying or are stupid.

>have to read two textbooks and take a state test for my Class C waterplant operator license
>haven't even started reading

How do I get the motivation bros? Someone help...

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>most longecity larpers
Wow you really hate this website?
How low is your IQ?

>this thread went from shitfest to actually being interesting
this is why I Yea Forums

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kek, nootropic supplement fag.. that shits all placebo effect

The movie is okay but it has a serious plot hole. He forgot to pay the gangster who loaned him the money. If you have every bit of information stored in your brain available to you how do you forget to pay that important debt.

>microdosing
GAY FAGGOT ZOOMER TREND

Take 5+ grams of cubensis for a real and therapeutic experience, infrequently, rather than just quickly build your tolerance and get diminishing effects

kek, based clickbait user

Just read and take notes.
Once you have done that for a while, try to figure out what you can remember and what you need to take notes of to force yourself to remember.
Cycle trough it until its fine.

>How do I start
No such thing user. Just force yourself, and it will be easier.
T. delayed painting car tires for 3 months due laziness

he didn't forget

>Less effective than just improving learning habits, or spending time learning.

Yeah that's a real part of it. You take a magic performance and brain boosting compound then watch fucking cartoons you'll get dumber anyway. You need to do something stimulating like learning, studying artwork, reading a book, solving complex shit.

did he died?

>activate 100% of your brain
>immediately die of seizures, heart attack, suffocation, and intense vomiting
>while shitting and pissing yourself

Forgot to add that there's a reason the most prominent study on neurogenesis is focused on memory. It's because it really only occurs in the hippocampus after the brain is done growing. As important as the hippocampus is, it's not the star of fluid intelligence.

Also LSD is lame and basicly gives no interesting visual or alien experience like mushrooms or dmt

do you feel physically ill if you have to wake up early in the morning? also are you on any anti-depressents?

I still see him on RLM reviews so I guess he is still alive

im not on anything
i vomit every morning, my guts hurt until like 10

t. female
you are just too weak to hold all that power

LSD is for introspection

I hate say it, but you need to try meditation. Good luck trying to find a teacher that strikes a balance between western hippy peace and love bullshit and cultish guru worship. Learn about meditation from the primary sources and try not to pick up any dogma.

based and furpilled

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Mushrooms work better, also most zoomers take far too low of doses for that (the user was talking about microdosing anyway) and don't seek that anyway and take it and play video games or something

An average dose of orange sunshine in the 60s was 300 micrograms, even before that with Owsley it was 250 micrograms

Now a hit is like 100 micrograms

>four digit IQ
>forget to pay back your shady russian loanshark with money you've already made several times over
fucking stupid movie

>four digit IQ
was it four digit? holy fuck

He most definitely forgot and the gangster became a pain in the ass for him.

the writing for limitless feels so fucking amateurish like it was done as a screenwriting exercise.

>entire pitch is 'we only use x amount of our brains, what if there was a drug that let us use all out it' shitty pseudoscience for retards
>has a 'your' re probably wondering how I got here' first five minutes
>obnoxious Bradley Cooper narrator
>shitty paper-thin girlfriend character who might as well be called 'the girlfriend'
>cartoonist Russian mobster antagonist (LOL) who somehow manages to take the drug
>flabby Middle section where some guy is following the gf and the only way she can escape from him (in a public park, surrounded by people, during the day) is by taking said plot device
>also when the main character takes the drug he becomes super smart but completely forgets about the Russian mobster

Tell me how the catabolism of ecstasy is anything like the catabolism of adderall and methamphetamine

Remember when they made a tv series out of this

was comfy as fuck

genuinely feels like this film was the idea of a screenwriter struggling with a script who thought 'damn if I had a drug that unlocked the full power of my brain maybe then I wouldn't have writers block', because for some reason the main character becomes a genius yet his first decision is to write a shitty novel that doesn't get mentioned for the rest of the film

Shit man you should go see a doctor, hope you can recover

my experience with acid was that it turns you into a fucking drooling idiot. and because you are an idiot, everything suddenly becomes interesting and 'amazing'. i can't imagine meeting the type of people who do it often because after the first couple hours I justed wanted my mind to go back to being normal.

The strangest part is that they shouldn't have even struggled with the script. The film was based on a book that handled the premise excellently and was much more drama/thriller with the major antagonists being the people who actually created the drug and their "The Game" tier pulling of strings in the protagonists life. As if that isnt enough, apparently they had the writer on set during the filming which means they created that shitshow of a plot with easy access to the guy who couldve made it significantly better.

I was always believing that 50-60% of the brain is already being used for senses and so on.
So I figured if you could control 100% of your brain with thought then you could stop yourself feeling pain, make pleasure feel way better and so on

>stop yourself feeling pain

why? That's literally what is keeping us alive

You need pain, otherwise you can miss the signs and unknowingly injure yourself further

and above all

start with the greeks

>I take 10mg twice a day, it just helps me stay awake...maybe, maybe concentrate a bit better.
Why not just take caffeine for that?

Source?

Doesn't seem to work anymore.

>Imagine being god

It's hard to imagine not existing.

Thanks I'll be here all week.

drugs incur a debt that must be repaid

rarely is it ever worth it

THere’s more than one study that shows people who drink alcohol regularly but moderately, tend to live longer than those who drink alcohol excessively, but both those who drink alcohol moderately and excessively live longer lives than those who don’t drink alcohol at all.
Since himans have been drinking alcoholic beverages regularly in most of Europe for the past 2,000+ years, and in the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Asia for at least 4,000+ years, with the posdible exception of muslim areas where there was a religious prohibition on alcohol that may have been followed for maybe the past 1,200 years or so, the human biology has likely modified itself to not only drink alcohol, but to need it to a degree.

Beer is RAW NUTRITION. If drinking regularly just staves off some kind of malnutrition, thats a given that it gives you longer life when you get worse at being nutritious at older age.

The key problem with the research is that its normal to drink alcohol. Meaning those that do not drink, are most likely suffering from some kind of issues to not drink.

Anytime I take adderall I just jerk off for 12 hours to progressively more degenerate shit

Ladies and gentlemen... the cumbrain.

>dude like I spent five hours setting up this elaborate visual aid instead of telling you guys in a simple manner right away
I would have shot him after the third time.

If this is how you type on nootropics then they're clearly shit.

>The key problem with the research is that its normal to drink alcohol. Meaning those that do not drink, are most likely suffering from some kind of issues to not drink.
This is actually mentioned as a possibility in the study I read.

I just remember bradley cooper going NOW YOU ARE THE LIMITLESS and then you never see him again

sounds like you read a pseudoscience article in the news. 'if you drink red wine, you'll love longer'. I've seen similar dumb studies about chocolate and just about any comfort food.

do any of these studies actually go into the biology and find a causal link between longevity and alcohol intake? what's the mechanism? or is it that people who are well off are more likely to drink and they live longer lives because of other factors? because if you think drinking excessively is going to lead to a longer life you need to experience jaundice

Phenylpiracetam hydrazide
You gotta take a ton of chelated choline though as it depletes your brains reserves immediately

Since its digestion, its a study that is lacking.
But basically, the assumed link is poison tolerance. If you drink regularly small doses, you gain immunity or resistance.
So if you regularly drink a beer, you offset the negatives from drinking more than just a beer.

At the same times its basically groups of:
1. Drinking a little, a lot
2. Getting shit wasted once a month, not building resistance or tolerance
3. Not drinking, and having large social issues
Its like most studies about nutrition: Meaningless
Too shallow, no chemistry, and not enough money to do blood/guts/bacteria/etc.

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there’s a limitless pill. It’s called bipolar disorder.

All those "smart pills" and powders are convince you what you're taking improves cognitive function but it's actually your own mind willing itself to improve since you believe it's working.

Are you me?

and how big are the gains in longevity anyway? are we talking decades? or a couple years? because there are maaany more factors that will improve longevity that people should worry about before alcohol factors into their minmaxing.

After the movie came out I heard so many fags in highschool repeat that shit like they were onto something

>sounds like you read a pseudoscience article in the news. 'if you drink red wine, you'll love longer'. I've seen similar dumb studies about chocolate and just about any comfort food.
these literally aren't pseudoscience you fedora wearing redditor

Alcohol is a vasodilator.
It opens up the blood stream allowing blood to flow more freely.
Exercise also causes Vasodilation.
There was at least one study that found moderate amounts of alcohol has a similar effect to moderate exercise.
Once the blood vessels are opened wider, the blood stream has a beter oportunity to clear toxins and blockages from the bloodstream.

Alcohol is also a stress reliever, and a mild anesthetic, and since stress has been shown to reduce lifespan, possibly due to hormones or other biological stress chemicals released into the bloodstream, reduced stress may also be a factor to the longer lifespan.

Alcohol may have other benefits as well, since it used to be a standard medication used by physicians, and seems to be helpfull with fevers and heart issues.

Well, the problem with modern studies is that you got that far.
But its not studied how much alcohol you inn in your daily pint to get there. And how long you need to do it to get enough resistance to offset the disadvantages of intoxication.

And thats vs cycles of excercize and long term fasting. Or whatever the modern fade is.
Its basically uncharted ground.
Digestion is basically a gigantic blackbox because studies require far more resources to actually study in depth. And on top of that, most of the field is based on ideas from poorly written sources when the field was new. I.e only testing poor newborns for ketosis lead to misunderstanding what glucosis and ketosis is.

hormesis is giving your metabolism just enough stress to but not too much. cold shock, drinking alcohol, sauna etc. eventually they'll find out that those all work on the same genetic pathways.

pretty much any diet study is pseudoscience, they're not careful or controlled enough to be otherwise. add publishing bias to publish "surprising" (i.e. bullshit) results while refusing to publish the negative studies following-up to prove it wrong and you may as well seek your horoscope for advice instead.

best they can say is correlational shit, which doesn't tell you anything. I just read one study a while ago, on rich people and their drinking habits, that basically said "gee, when poor people drink as much as these rich people do it really fucks up their lives, but when the rich people do it doesn't, so that must mean that drinking WINE is healthier than drinking BEER", as if you could possibly draw that conclusion from that result. literally, do fucking ANYTHING to rich people and it has less severe results than the same in poor people. THAT'S the cause of the difference, not the type of alcohol consumed.
but nobody gives a fuck. instead retards in the media just read that study and write an article going "WINE IS GOOD FOR YOU" and then they move on to the next topic they have no idea about to write some retarded shit about that too

I believe the gains were closer to a half decade or more.
I forget exactly but the gains were larger than simply margin of error numbers.
I believe the studies the numbers were mostly drawn from were from Europe, pre current muslim invasion, so the numbers may be more European centric for accuracy.
Other ethnic groups like Native Americans may not have the same results since Native Americans don’t biologically handle alcohol as well.

false i have proof xd

Drinking alcoholic beverages for health has been a meme since the Ancient Greeks at least.
The fact that it has been a meme so long suggests there may be truth to it.
Teetotaling is a relatively modern meme, like women getting to vote.
The older meme that stuck around for a few millennia is more likely to be true.

Yea Forums is the opposite to the limitless pill.

The 10% of your brain myth has been around for decades.

>they say that we use 10% of our brain, but what if we use like 10% of our hearts too?

Supposedly there’s an upper called U4EA that’s the closest version to this possible. Like speed but lasts longer and is cleaner. But it’s extremely rare.

meth heads

Kek

I recall that

>missing the point

AKA meth lite.

i'm bipolar and on adderall so this is literally everyday for me

I already got my limitless right here.

>tfw drink three of these bad bois a day
>time speeds up
>sweating profusely
>eyes twitching
>chest hurts
>but motivated like FUCK
>getting kill streaks in games
>writing and shit
>actually talking and shit

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checked

>The fact that it has been a meme so long suggests there may be truth to it.

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reddit thinks everything is a placebo effect

>imagine having the ability to have full access to The Mask Trilogy™ tonight at 9pm est with your fellow TV chads

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nofap

based nofap cultist

no, because unlike you most people actually do use all of their brain

kek

>dude I know better than academics doing actual studies because I read rationalwiki
why does the left hate science so much?

I know, that was my point

Its good but for me it isnt the wonder drug that a lot of people describe it as. Most of the time it's nothing more than "oh i just realized i don't feel anxious about this situation when i normally would," which is still nice but ive never felt euphoria or anything like some people claim.
You need to be careful with it too because it is similar to benzos in terms of tolerance buildup and withdrawals. If you have an addict personality be very careful.

I remember going to school with this one guy who was obsessed with this movie and premise. He actually tried combining pills/supplements in order to create something similar, despite no knowledge in health or chemistry. He actually had a notebook where he jotted his notes.

If he had spent just a fraction of the time studying instead of this bullshit to bypass studying, he probably would have passed.

LSD is about diving into your own mind and perceptions. I've seen so many people try LSD and completely miss the point of it. as in they become obsessed with trying to see trippy visual etc and the huge cognitive paradigm shift completely passes them by

>How to stop being a 10% pleb?
That's a myth.

>into buddy cop bullshit
They also decided to cast two actors who have the personality and screen presence of a wet sponge

That's a fucking seizure

and sends you straight to hell

did he die?

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It's so fun seeing new freshmen tweak out on addy around finals time thinking that cramming an entire semester into a week is a smart idea

cocaine/adderal + coffee

adderal makes me extremely calm and slows my brain down considerably. I can stare at a crack in the road for an hour while waiting for the bus and be totally okay with it.

if you had full access to your brain you would not do such trivial things like business and finance you would likely be so stimulated by existence itself that you'd be in a pure state of enlightenment and completely non functional physically. somewhat like lsd is like

No, but he burned out so many times. Never saw a dude more strung out. I remember him one time calculating the lethal dose of caffeine for his body weight then intentionally consuming 75% of that in the morning

based

LIFE IN THE FAST LAAANE

Underrated also nice dubs

You will definitely progress to amphetamines

NSI-189 and magnesium L-Threonate, if you stop taking the magnesium tho u get the same side effects as in the movie, so yeah...

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