So? Who wins?

Shilton and Banks were objectively fantastic keepers.
It is abundantly clear you are just another ABE. You also forget that for every Spanish export that does well from laliga there are 10 that flop harder than a sack of potatoes.

Fabregas was overrated shite

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Casillas wasn't very good mate

>who is trippier

I'd be up for it. Sounds like a fun game.
Not afraid of anyone any more. I don't think we're going to win the WC but we don't need to go into games with an inferiority complex any more.
A few people have said that if every team finishes where you expect and wins the KO games you expect, we will get France in the quarter final. So be it. I'm down for anything now.

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Very little footage innit so I try to avoid talking about those really old players.
no sane person has ever said this, he wasn't even the best cb on the England team back then with Ferdinand alongside.

Yes I mean he just was the main reason Spain won the Yuros and the WC when the famous Xavi-Iniesta wonderteam was about to be fucked in the poopoo by Paraguay, XD. Plus penalties vs Italy, crucial saves vs everyone, etc

Why do Spaniards rate Zubizarreta? You could've said Cañizares, Reyna, but you choose the dude that cost them an early exit in 98

wouldn't be opposed to an England v Spain WC Final, if only because it meant we got to a world cup final, I also wouldn't mind losing too much as long as we don't get 7-1'd or totally refballed

Nobody rates Zubizarreta except OP.

>Spain has never produced a striker as consistent as Harry Kane or Alan Shearer
Iago Aspas since the beginning of his peak in 2015, only the fraud Luis Enrique refuses to call him up because Iago always fucks Barcelona in the league

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small team small prospects

>Spain has never produced a striker as consistent as Harry Kane or Alan Shearer
David Villa, Torres, Raul, Morientes, Alfonso, Luis Enrique.

>>Spain has never produced a striker as consistent as Harry Kane or Alan Shearer
David Villa

I can't even be bothered to unpick all this bullshit so just kys and ban aussies from talking football in future

Mate, Villa shats in Harry Kane, I don't know about Alan shearer tough.
And Raul was like >Suarez, he had that ability to smell a goal.

You're just naming random Spanish strikers. Fucking Morientes lmao, Kane had more goals at 25 than he had in his whole career

I miss David Villa and his goofy metrosexual haircut. Used to love watching that Valencia team.

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Even Butragueño shits on Kane

Yes he gets a lot of points for having an exotic name. OP said consistent btw, Kane has outscored this "legend" already too.

>The only Anglo players successfully proven in La Liga were Lineker and Beckham
Yeah Trippier never existed

england
haha no way, spain 3-0

No, he's still well-regarded in Spain 20 years later. No idea what OP is on about.

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Whats wrong with footy players having cool exotic names?
Why would I cheer for a player that might as well play like prime Maradona but his name is 'Adam Jones'. Absolutely soulless.

>Goalkeeper from the caliber of Casillas, Zubizarreta or Paco Buyo
Who is gordon banks or peter shilton

Nah, dude bossed most of the PL as a 17/18 year old.

I'd put in a good word for David Seaman as well. Maybe not an absolute all-time great but certainly one of the best keepers of the last thirty years.

In the only place when we don't have top world tier players is in strikers, but Raul, Villa, Pedro, Butrageño, Aspas, are just a step away (top 25 in they best moments for sure).
Unless we count DiStephano, but he was argie (tough I think nationalized spanish).

I think David seaman seems better because of the absolutely shit goalkeepers we had afterwards

kek

Yeah the English sure love their Semen

They couldn't even beat Albania 3-0 and got taken to penalties by the swiss

David Silva is literally, what, Spain's 4th all time top scorer? Maybe stop chatting shit lad

Yeah we love to pump dutch girls full of it

Shilton is only known for getting dabbed on by Maradona XD.

Meds

>Villa shats in Harry Kane
By what metric?

>Seaman
youtu.be/gktEEs61q_E

>no mention of Xavi Iniesta Villa
>no Scholes
>no Joe Cole who if his name was Joao Colinho he would be remembered by everyone
>no gerrard/lampard who were anxiety merchants - their opponents were puckering their assholes knowing at any moment a blooter might come in the top corner from 30 yards
etc

not true, we also remember his dreadful display in the penalty shootout against West Germany where he mostly just fell over to either the left or right
the worst part is that he went the right way every time but never properly dived
youtube.com/watch?v=su0NGYMaYgM

The most talented was Guti. Problem is he was indolent as fuck, but talent-wise he was the best.

trophies

Guti had more talent than Iniesta or Xavi, but unlike them he prefered to not take his football career seriously...
I will ever have a soft spot for him thanks to crackovia tough.
youtube.com/watch?v=XR6qjXq_uQ4

Not that user, but you can totally discuss if Villa was better or at least the same as Harry Kane.
You can compare their stats in their best seasons, they are not far away, plus Villa won a World Cup where he score 5 goals, and won a Euro in 2008 where he scores 4 goals, he was golden boot in both tournaments.

>you can totally discuss if Villa was better or at least the same as Harry Kane
Yes, you can if you want.

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Villa was very good. Kane will be considered better when all is said and done, bit it's a conversation certainly. Villa could play as a winger too

Well, Your argument is upload a picture of your father smoking crack, okay dude

Yeah he was a class act but he's a clear cut below Kane imo

Hey that's me.
Apologies for being dismissive, but it seems a weird discussion.

Please do, Dutch girls are fucking awful. Please breed them out of existence.

>Iago Aspas

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Kane has a World Cup golden boot too

kek

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spain has one good team in the history of their nation. why are they getting uppity, it was over a decade ago. Gordon Banks and Peter Shilton are more well regarded goalkeepers than anyone you listed. I have as much reason to hate them as anyone but I'm too autistic to let such lies pass.

>Spain has never produced a striker as consistent as Harry Kane or Alan Shearer
Raul. Villa

More regarded in what? Are people being contrarian against Casillas just for the sake of it?
Nobody will remeber Gordon Sheldon or whatever the fuck his name is in 20 years. And in those 20 years Iker will still remain as the most succesful goalkeeper in history.
And now some scatalan or another anglo will jump in seething.

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luv spain
'ate england
simple as

Madrid zoomers/retards who do revisionism on Iker should be publicly executed.

This is from 2018, mind you. Chelsea beat Real and Atleti last year, but Villarreal beat Man Utd last year in a final and so did Atleti the past month.
In 2020, just before lockdowns, Invincible Liverpool was beaten by Atleti.
And City beat Real Madrid in a tie that was played with 4 months between matches, IIRC.
It looks like this week we have more kino in the table in the Champions.

As for actual players and quality, I think it's not even close, the only I give to them is the strikers.

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meanwhile moorata can't even score pens

Casillas>Banks>Shilton>Clemence>Zubizarreta=Buyo=Seaman

Spain haven't gotten further than England in an international tournament in 10 years

>Kane and shearer
David Villa and Fernando Torres were better respectively

England didn't have a single (OG) at the Euros whereas Spain's (OG) was the funniest of the tournament

spainsisters....

No, I loved watching Torres but he wasn't as good as either of them

>look it up
>it's true
...Spainbros?

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And England have 0 Eurocopas KEK

I bet Kane and Shearer contributed a lot in their “””extense”” trophy count at high level football clubs for as good as they where. Villa is so much superior forward is insane

Why are we pretending Kane and Shearer are the standard? Before Messi and Ronaldo came along, Jimmy Greaves was the highest scoring player in the history of top flight European football, not just in England. He's the standard.

>Kane and Shearer penalised for SOVL
They spent their best years at their boyhood clubs. Just because we aren't like Germany where everyone decent is hoovered up by Bayern. So long as they're doing it in the top flight, why should it matter what club they play for? If anything, winning golden boots for Spurs and Newcastle should be more impressive.

lol wtf are you talking about. They are considered decent players at best, they're not legends

yes, what about the thousand trophies that Kane has won with both Tottenham and England?

Spain obviously. 1 WC for England, vs 1 WC, 3 Euros for Spain.

England has had a longer history, but Spain more successes. And the top top Spanish players BTFO the top top English players. Right now, English NT is better, but Spain's recent peak is higher than anything England has ever had

Shearer could have moved to Man United and won every trophy going at any point in his career but he's not a soulless latin bugman

I would say that generation had at least three guys as good (maybe better) talent-wise than Xavi and Iniesta: Guti, De la Peña and Valerón. But Guti and De la Peña were retarded and poor Valerón was always injured so they never achieved their full potential

the point is OP said that only Lineker and Beckham succeeded in Spain, McManaman and Trippier might not be legends but they played well with their clubs

Don't think their best players are that much better than ours. Just depends on how much you respect players not from the modern era. No Spaniard has won a sweep of
>Ballon d'Or
>World Cup Golden Ball
>World Cup
>European Cup / CL
>First division title
like Bobby Charlton did, as well as being as prolific a goalscorer and assister as he was while playing from midfield. He had everything.

Apart from him, though, Xavi and Iniesta I would say are better than every other player we've produced.

dude i don't think anybody in Spain is gonna pretend Morata is a good player, he's only there because of his dad. The conversation is about other strikers we've had like Villa or Raul

>Apart from him, though, Xavi and Iniesta I would say are better than every other player we've produced
scholes comes close

i've seen Spain winning tournaments tho, can you say the same about England?

Inglaterra es una puta mierda , solo tienen negros chokeros

Kane, Shearer, Lineker, Rooney were all better than Raul. And I'm a massive Raul enjoyer. Of course the modern striker is so different to the classic english number 9 it's a little hard to compare. I think Raul would do better today than he did in his own era.

>Spain's recent peak is higher
It was definitely that

When he isn't injured.

You can't really have a conversation with beaners when they say stuff like Torres was better than Shearer. Torres has to be the most overrated in player in history at this point. Even at his absolute peak he wasn't that good.

Why was this nigga never included in the NT despite playing a major part in the United team that dominated the league from 2006-2013?

forgot pic

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>Shilton
Lol one could single handedly score past him.

It's funny, we finally brought our first foreign managers in to introduce new ideas and both played a traditional 442 amd neither wanted to drop Lampard or Gerrard

I'm 10 so I haven't seen either win

>i've seen Spain winning tournaments tho, can you say the same about England?
Yeah

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Was this, dare I say it, the most SOVL tournament of all time?

ANGLO'D

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De la Peña makes me seeth, wasted potential.

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Sbain

That's how it is everywhere. Don't tell me you didn't know