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>Please give reddit gold
Big Fish. It convinced Spalding Gray to kill himself.
>21 years fighting cancer
actually amazing tbqh
when you have 21 years with no remissions, that is amazing
>21 years of fighting cancer
jesus
WE FUCKING DID IT REDDIT WE BEAT CANCER!
Why are her legs on an egg box? do americans sleep in food packaging?
>honey, I know how much pain you're in, but smile for the camera, you have no idea how much reddit karma this is doing to get me
That's foam
Pretty much proof jesus doesn't exist.
>be able to cure any disease
>lol no, suffer for years and die in pain
>21 years
Halfway trough that just fucking end it and kill yourself. Literally everyone will be better off like that.
The movie ”P.S i love you”.
>21 years of fighting cancer
Is that actually possible or is the guy exaggerating for reddit gold?
I don't know what you guys use for your eggs.
Trump LITERALLY just announced that cancer will be cured in the next few years so you're fucking retarded
He probably means she got into remission and back getting cancer several times during that time. Some people get into remission for 5 years then it comes back and kills them for good. Shitty disease but think of all the karma
Most likely she had a few remissions in between bouts of cancer/chemo
He probably means from the time she was first diagnosed to her death
exaggerating tremendously
probably been in remission for at least 15 years of that time
Yeah, I don't get this either. Why would someone want to share private pictures like these with a community of strangers? Is it really upvote/gold milking?
Well I guess we know who won
>dude you have cancer enjoy your last couple of years
>oops jk it was actually 21 years haha
There are no atheists in Hell.
I've always found this to be such a weird argument against religion.
You know that for most religions this place isn't the endgame right?
I feel bad for him, but /r/pics is total cancer
Nothing of value lost, bitch deserves it for browsing plebbit
Depends on the cancer and the stage at which its detected.
The point is that cancer does not relent and will eventually get you, sooner or later.
Pretty much proof science doesn't do shit.
>be able to overcome any problem through ingenuity and experiments
>lol no, we can't cure that
I would've fought Pisces instead of Cancer.
Why cause suffering at all? "God" gave her cancer for lulls. Doesn't matter though cos non of this matters.
Harley Davidson and the Marlboro man.
>You know that for most religions this place isn't the endgame right?
Then why do the religious even bother living here? Why not kill yourself or get someone to kill you early in life, to spend more time in eternal paradise, instead of wasting time here and aiding in the destruction of this planet? Cashing in early would also theoretically lower your opportunities of unknowingly sinning, too.
Science has done more for humanity than religion ever has.
My aunt fought cancer for 15 years. She had 3 bouts of it - two of them, she went into remission, and it came back. The last time, she said "Fuck it, no more chemo or radiation, I'm not putting myself or everyone through it anymore."
And, some cancers are really slow growing, or they can "freeze" it with radiation.
They don't consciously beg. In their head the entity "reddit" is like a friend that cares about him so sharing private stuff will almost feel obligatory.
>Bro reddit will love this let me take a pic
Yea Forums is similar but the illusion of caring is way stronger there since you got all the types of upcummies to fuck with your brain.
Yeah, the cells at work anime told me that already.
She’s looks pretty mannish
fuck u demiurge
fuk u demiurge
>21 years
That's crazy to think about. What a soldier.
You'll understand when you go through it. Grief fucks you up in ways you can't even imagine. I did shit like that when my dad died, that I regret - so years later when mom went, I kept myself from doing it. I had pictures of her right before she went (they go fast at the end, i thought she had a couple more months), that nobody will ever see, because I erased them. And later posted pictures of her when she was healthy. Remember her like that, not like the mummy she turned into. Fuck cancer.
It’s not an argument against God’s existence, just the existence of a loving God.
when people do this it makes me so sad. I literally wrote into my living will that no photographs are to be taken of me in a hospital bed.
>openly admitting to being a redditor
You people don't even bother trying to hide it anymore.
Maybe you should stay there
>I always want everything to be happy and nice and kind. I can't handle any hardship whatsoever. Where are my tendies?!
you aren't even trying. "cashing in early" would already be a sin
>People are actually discussing how reddit has gone downhill
Jesus christ.
Woah dude you just proved that poems aren't literal woah...
>uh... the REAL God is actually loving He just... uh... let's some other creator be a total asshole
Yeah, like making weapons of mass destruction and developing hormone replacement treatments. Thanks science
If he's unloving and spiteful why create love and compassion etc. Its all bullshit.
Cancer can't and never will be cured because it's a degenerative disease. Curing it is a pipe dream which has been encouraged for decades and decades by charities in order to profit from an indefinite illness. The only cure is prevention, which is impossible if you live in a first world society, because practically everything you eat, drink or breathe causes cancer.
Blaming science is retarded, because it saves more people from other shit than religion ever has. Religion is very deep in the red if you're ranking how many deaths it has caused.
Do you even get what Love means in the context of God or do you think its like a human love like wanting to kiss someone or giving them your milk and cookies? Serious question.
A literal child wrote this. Just because it's a blue board doesn't mean kids should post.
hunger
So going around randomly killing religious and pious people would be the moral thing to do right? You are sending them to heaven early and having them skip gods shitty meme suffering. Granted you yourself would be sacrificing yourself to an eternity of sin, it's possible lucifer would sympathize due going around shitting on gods shitty life meme
I was going to assume this was trolling/bait but there are fedoralords that would post this kind of drivel unironically.
>"cashing in early" would already be a sin
So God just wants us to hang around here and suffer? How is that benevolence?
>conveniently ignoring the suggestion that someone else kills you instead
You aren't even trying. What happens to children who are murdered at a young age? Does God say "trying to cash in early huh" and boot them to Hell?
Cherry picking the worst parts of science. Religion is responsible for a lot of suffering. More than any modern war.
Every death caused by a weapon is essentially caused by science. Nice try.
he’s counting from when she first got it. My mom has been fighting it for 15 years, but she’s not going to make it through this year unfortunately.
>mass murder is moral
Diying is bad only to atheists. Sure it sucks but it's not the end of everything for Christians.
>dude, why has the practical application of principles had a more direct, measurable influence than the abstract philosophical practice??? Jesus is for fags!!!!!
Holy shit. Yea Forums literally has 12-year-olds posting on it.
>here she is soiling her self a day before her death
How is it not? You are saving people from having to spend 80+ years of suffering
>So God just wants us to hang around here and suffer?
No he wants you to stop being a faggot
Cherry picking the worst parts of religion. Science is responsible for a lot of suffering. More than any modern religious conflict.
ummmm sweetie like no one cares okay hun? Like no one browses only one site mmkay boopy poo?
kek cancer can be cured, you cut the cunt out, problem solved
if the only eventual solution is nanobots then it will eventually happen, just a question of time
Every weapon invented is essentially caused by God granting us creativity. Nice try.
Godtards believe God is responsible for everything including. By that reckoning he wanted me to post that.
>Science causes suffering
>"C-C-Cherrypicking!!!!"
>Religion causes suffering
>"THIS IS DA REAL TRUTH!!!!"
hmm, what's going on here?
Nice rhetoric.
That makes no sense. Copy and paste something better.
sorry bro
>Cancer can't and never will be cured because it's a degenerative disease.
Nonsense. It may be impossible for humans to cure the sickness, but it'd be trivial for a strong, superintelligent AI to deal with it. And we're not that far from building one.
>you cut the cunt out, problem solved
That frequently doesn't cure it. Cancer can spread.
I'm sure you'll make up something.
Extreme cucking and friend-zoning.
If you hate science so much, please fuck off from your computer and go live in a mountain praying to stone slabs
Reminder that God fags believe the earth is only a couple of thousand years old and dinosaurs don't exist despite all the proof.
So atheists are wrong and are going to hell? Nice.
it spreads because its impossible for a human to cut all the cancer out
now if you could refine that process to the point where almost all the cancer was removed the outcomes would be much better
>believing an AI that's superintelligent enough to cure cancer wouldn't realize humanity is the worst cancer of all and refuse to help us
>nonsense
Early stages, sure. Stage 4? You're not cutting that out. Do you even know what stage 4 is?
>there are Fedoratheists ITT ACTUALLY discussing their teenager-tier "philosophy" on Christianity
Holy shit this is fucking embarrassing.
>"lol that is stupid. God isn't real because mom banned me from playing Overwatch for a week and took away my vape."
Literally Rebbit-tier shit.
It would be nice if you're right one day.
I don't hate science or even atheists. You, however, seem to be triggered by people who don't share your opinions. I suggest a vacation to clear your mind.
And there it is.
You won't even see the first baby steps towards AI in your lifetime. Your grandchildren won't, either, if you ever actually have sex.
I have come not to bring peace but a sword.
>If you hate science so much
lol nobody claimed they did you jowl-jiggling fedora-tipper.
You're the one who started crying about religion and got your shit smacked by people smarter than you are.
for believers this place is just a step , what is 21 years in front of eternity
Reminder that sciencefags believe there are 86 genders and that people need safe rooms when they get triggered.
So christians are delusional and are going nowhere? Nice.
This.
Feels good knowing I won't die in pant-shitting fear after an empty, degenerate life. Shame the fedoralords are denied such a pleasure.
Your mommy turned into a mummy?
>OMG DO YOU KNOW WHAT METASTIZATION IS I JUST WIKIED IT AND ITS REAL BAD
yeah thanks kid, try to read the post before you start bullshitting me
the reason i said nanobots is because they can hypothetically identify and deal with a spreading cancer in a way no human surgeon could
What does that even mean? Calm down fedora.
>seem to be triggered by people who don't share your opinions.
no I am triggered by retards making retard comments like
>Pretty much proof science doesn't do shit.
if it wasn't for modern science, odds are you wouldn't have lived pass your teenage years so this proof that science does produce shit
>That makes no sense.
Because you're sub-intelligent.
I have been diagnosticed with a testicle cancer 2 months ago , I am 21 years old why god playing with me like that
Some of the greatest scientists and scholars were Christian
>It convinced Spalding Gray to kill himself.
what
You won't see nanobots cutting out all of the cancer cells in a stage 4 cancer patient, directed by AI, in your lifetime, incel. And bellowing at me like a retard doesn't make you any more right.
If you hate religion so much then please fuck off from your computer and the countless other inventions, basic and modern, that were invented by the Christians you despise so much and go spend your days vaping and discussing edgy philosophy in some godless Marxist commune in the woods.
Science is a tool. Blaming science for actions committed with objects is about as brilliant as believing a book about an imaginary guy who made some rules to cup back on the sheep diddling.
>IT WONT HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFETIME
yeah no shit, stop moving the goalposts as if it gives your argument any validity
>YOU'RE AN INCEL YOU'RE BELLOWING
lmao fuck me
>die
>husband whores you out for fake internet points and 1-month access to a vip chatroom
>dying in absolute agony over arbitrary bullshit that can't be helped is character building
>fuck me harder daddy!
Imagine living in willful ignorance, rejecting discoveries in science (despite utilizing them on a day to day basis), and restraining yourself from living a truly independent and fulfilling life because you're under constant surveillance by a higher power, then thinking you're the only demographic who can die with a smile on their face as your boring and wasted life comes to an end and you enter eternal salvation, only to enter the same state of nonexistence you came from before birth, along with everyone else.
It means if science creates guns, then religious people use those guns to kill in the name of religion, both sides are going to your theoretical hell. Spoiler: we're all already there anyway.
>Pretty much proof science doesn't do shit.
He made that comment because he was using YOUR own flawed logic in the post you made prior to demonstrate WHY your logic is flawed, retard.
Are you really so autistic that you can't follow a basic argument?
>atheist
Oh wait; yes. Statistically you're actually much more likely to be Autistic. According to Science, at least.
Still no reason to cause suffering. I see where you're coming from but there's no reason to cause suffering for some but not others, if we all get a chance at eternal happiness why give some happiness on earth but some a life of shit?
You're scared of the truth.
>Imagine living in willful ignorance, rejecting discoveries in science (despite utilizing them on a day to day basis)
lol but I don't.
Stopped reading right there.
Get your information from somewhere other than r/atheism.
>superintelligent AI
zoom zoom
I fucking love science
B.b.bbut God created the internet and electronics and everything. And you can't prove otherwise because God is great.
>Science is a tool.
And Religion is a philosophy. Why is blaming it any better?
Tump LITERALLY said it'll be cured in the next few years, cope more you RETARD
>roastieposting
Have kids. Stop being a slut.
>not close to ai
Moore's law is still going strong. We'll reach the computational efficiency of the brain in a decade or so. We're making great progress on the software side with neural networks and similar stuff. It may happen around 2040.
Sounds more like you're scared of dying.
I'm covered, dude. At least I show regret for my mistakes, unlike your standard fedora who thinks he's doing nothing wrong and that morality is for religious sheeple.
What are some good subreddits?
God's not real because I've never been given any proof.
There's no reason why I should believe holy books written 1000's of years ago, edited countless times by charlatans. I've tried, I read the bible too but realized I was just lying to myself about belief because rationally why just believe in these things? Godless societies are awful, and the by-atheist "I fucking love science!' Crowd are awful, but that doesn't null the fact that we're just supposed to believe this religion that started 2000 years ago in Jerusalem on...nothing.
What's the one major point you can give me thatll help me believe?
what does that have anything to do with jesus or the scriptures?
UUUUUH BECAUSE ONE ALLOWS ME TO MASTURBATE TO VIRTUAL WOMEN AND THE OTHER TELLS ME TO FIND A WIFE AND HAVE CHILDREN
>what is free will
try again
euphoric post
r/triggeredhatwearers
from what I read faith can be tested in a l
every way , health/money/family problem or even having a perfect life can draw you away from God
>more and more zero IQ incels//pol/ show up
>place gets more and more religious
r/Yea Forums
I do
The bible states your path is paid out for you while you're still in the womb...
>degenerative diseases can't be cured
lol what?
literally using his wife's death as a way to promote his twitch channel. fucking pathetic.
because suicide is a sin and will stop you from going to heaven. i'm not even a religousfag but are you 14?
Why be scared of being nothing? Only bad part of death is pain, but that's ok that's part of gods plan lol. Its scary in 2019 people believe in shit like the bible and God. Fucking backwards people afraid to think for themselves.
When you were a child didn't you get angry with your parents for punishing you, the surest proof of their evil?
Now of course you know that they did what they did out of love and for your benefit, how much your understanding has changed in just a handful of years.
The case is the same here, we are Gods children and cannot understand his will entirely during our short time here on Earth, but we have faith that he loves us completely and that everything is for the best.
>more and more r/atheism teenagers show up
>place gets more and more seething
Because a talking serpent made a woman eat an Apple that for some reason shouldn't have been eaten because it contained knowledge and shit.
SEriously, Every Time I try and find god, I realize how fucking stupid it is.
>jesus
isn't that supposed to be the human incarnation of god's son according to some religions?
even if he ever existed, he would be long dead because he was human
also not a religious person or anything, but I never understood this atheist belief that god should be like a magic genie granting wishes around, and if he doesn't he "sucks at his job"
and besides, why would a god care about an insignificant being in such a ass huge universe? goes to show how self-centered most people are
>b-because that’s a sin!
you sound like a baby making up new rules to your game as people make fun of the holes. Of course all the logical holes can be covered by doing this, you mindless rodent
t. owner of $5,000 worth of healing crystals accumulated over a two year period on Etsy
no you don't boo.
Reddit is a shithole. I recently created an account after MK11 got released and the leaks were on there, I joined to shitpost but that place is a safe space, I got banned for calling that MK11 faggot tranny a faggot tranny. Fuck that place.
I had forgotten why I hated redditors, thanks user.
>He was human.
How many humans come back from the dead?
>they were religious
>thus we attribute their accomplishment to the church
Pro tip, you should remove this guy from your pic. He makes my point that scientists had were being hinder by religion and had to waste time making up bullshit reasons why dissecting bodies would actually help humanity and not anger bearded guy in the sky
also
>godless Marxist commune in the woods.
alright so you mocking your fariy tales is trigger you so much you are just going to paint me as a caricature. nice, let me just call you a redneck since you want to go down this route
>Imagine living in willful ignorance, rejecting discoveries in science
"lol I fucking LOVE Science! ...Except for the parts about Sex Chromosomes, Genetics, IQ, Sexual Dimorphism, Mental Illness, Fact-Based Reasoning, DNA, Nuclear Power, intrinsic biological differences between races, the harmful consequences of drug-abuse, the harmful consequences of sexual promiscuity, the harmful consequences of indoctrinating children into crossdressing/gender insanity, the unprovable nature of the "wage gap", STD rates among Homosexuals, Economics, Neurology, Objective and Empirical Reasoning, Psychological differences between the sexes and the impracticality of Recycling and Solar Power.... But aside from those I fucking LOVE Science!
Seethe more, r/politics, or go back.
She didn't fight so good
I recommend reading Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas and Kierkegaard if you are committed to finding God. Their works can help
Didn't stop God giving Samson the power to kill himself by tearing the temple down on top of himself.
Samson, the literal superhuman who tucks prostitues , destroys armies with jaw bones, wrestles lions etc.
Do you really believe this shit happened?
>Fucking backwards people afraid to think for themselves.
Is that why you parrot everything your fedora-bretheren on r/atheism say? Because you're such a free-fucking-thinker?
well he was the son of god so he was prone to a few tricks like that
my point is that he was supposed to be human, live life like a human and only be on our planet for a limited time
the other posted should have used GOD instead of jesus
>God is good and everything is part of his grand plan.
Explain this.
Kind of like how your parents are able to give you all the tendies in the world, but since they won't they must not be loving, right? LMAO
What is your issue with it?
>this place was BASED when it made fun of beliefs I hated, like Christianity!
>but now that people here DARE to make fun of atheism, this place is terrible! fucking newfags questioning/mocking what I believe!!!
Why are Athi-shits so ready to dish it out, but never, ever able to take it?
Don't (you) me fagget. Shouting fedora in all your posts isn't making me look bad.
God did it to specifically make you feel bad.
we are too dumb to understand his master plan
See
Dude just have faith, lmao.
>see teddy
>feel 10x sadder
Why bros
I do
I wouldn't have gotten so many sweet (you)s though. Godfags are so humourless they take the bait every time.
>thus we attribute their accomplishment to the church
But nobody said that. Stop strawmanning.
Holy shit, I thought you fedora-tippers couldn't shut up about how "smart" you are? If you're so fucking super-intelligent why can't you follow a basic argument?
Then that makes him a bigger dick than I originally thought.
prior to scientific advancements, they would live for a couple months of constant suffering and then die. thanks to science defying god they get to live a full life full of suffering
youtube.com
Crying about everyone else believing in "fairy-tales" isn't making the religious look bad either, fedora-lord.
I dont think so sweetie
what's upcummies
>wife's about to croak
>don't take her outside and do a photoshoot making her feel pretty loved
>just a quick snap of her looking like a corpse for upvotes from strangers
That guy sucks
These people don't even feel real to me. Bizarre.
i havent met anyone that believes in religion and is smart , so fuck off retards, the single point i can destroy every single on of u with ur religion is this:
why does god give terminal cancer to a 5 year old?
in time science will cure all the diseases , meanwhile all the religion fags will still pray to god the dude who gave u diseases but no cure
So now you believe he exists?
Because doing her a full Weekend At Bernie's when she's in pain and can barely move for the same reason is better somehow?
>Trump LITERALLY just announced that cancer will be cured in the next few years so you're fucking retarded
I guess that'll be around the same time he releases his tax records.….!!!FACT!!!
>I heard a wonderful saying a couple of months ago, I may be butchering it.
>We are gamers not because we have no life but we choose many lives.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
fuk u demiurge
by priests?
god doesnt like shitposters like you having kids
shouldve thought about it before sneed posting faggot
cope more you seething fucking liberal
if you think that's bad
liveleak.com
lol
I'm sorry user. I hope you enjoy your time with her.
> the countless other inventions, basic and modern, that were invented by the Christians
are christains not part of the church? the that post isn't even more of a strawman to my post.
>vapin
>marxist
>fedora
is there another random childish name calling you want to throw? also go kill yourself, and stop name calling me its not the christian thing to do. turn the other cheek faggot
The only thing convincing me that God isn't real is that he hasn't given you cancer
>Please pay platform money
>being less social makes you less likely to join a cult
whoa
who wudda thunk it
I fucked Ted
God isn't real
Allah (pbuh) is
is science also defying god when it lets you keep your limb after you cut yourself on a rusty nail?
or survive a lung infection with antibiotics?
Aquinas
Get your reddit shit out of here
I'm gonna steal this
God invented antibiotics.
Science is not denying God you fucking brainlets. Science is a tool of examination and learning that we use to better understand the world God created. There's literally no reason you should think the two are at odds unless you're the type of fedorafag that treats science itself as a religion.
>the reddit spacing in that post
My fucking eyes, holy shit.
i wish i was dead
Based
How embarrassing
jesus died 2000 years ago you dumb fuck
The night before his disappearance, he had taken his children to see Tim Burton's film Big Fish. It ends with the line, "A man tells a story over and over so many times he becomes the story. In that way, he is immortal." Gray's widow, Kathie Russo, said after he disappeared, "You know, Spalding cried after he saw that movie. I just think it gave him permission. I think it gave him permission to die."
Its the glazed donut people!
>Ohhh I taste soo good!
Typical nigger
If science isn’t defying God, then what is life support keeping someone alive?
>machines are science
No, again you misunderstand what 'science' is. Science is a tool of examination, and that is all.
but seeking truth directly goes agains the christian faith
Im actually a different poster from the other guy but im just genuinely curious because ive read about people being on life support as a way of playing God. Science being defined as a tool of examination isn’t wrong but I feel like there is more to that
No, it doesn't. Seeking truth and proper understanding of God's world is perfectly Christian.
Keeping someone on life support is a whole different issue. It has nothing to do with science itself. That technology was developed because people utilized learning gained through science, but the machines are not science themselves, and using them to keep someone alive isn't science unless it's being done for research purposes.
there are a billion of different types of cancer you dumbfuck
once you get cancer once, its all over
it will always come back
>upcummies
It's human to want to share our lives with others.
Can't wait to rub it in your fucking face you propaganda spewing liberal faggot
Her skin must have been fragile and she was in the bed for hours, so it's to improve circulation and distribute her weight, so it lowers the risk pf lesions to open on her legs.
kino
Imaginary internet points are inhumane, though.
Kill yourself right now and find out then pussy
> but 7 days after she died I was diagnosed with Bowel cancer and spent Christmas having 40% of my bowels removed.
Leave him alone. He's grieving on his way.
He's making shit up retard
Tell her you love and hug her every time she needs it, and even if she doesn't.
Majority of scientific discoveries are from religous men, ya fucking retarded faggot.
why the fuck there is not a single post telling him how much of a faggot he is, i am not being edgy but how is this even related to the game or topic? and how can people even delude themselves to act like that? just go into an unrelated community about a specific topic and cry about your wife and people actually are saying shit like "i feel like crying" why? how do fags like these even gets wives, i can understand getting sad over a loved one dying, but posting about it on a video game board and while you are at it sharing your youtube channel and also saying i don't want to do that because it would be self promotion people giving them million upvotes? wtf atleast here shit like wojack pepes are somehow related to the the topic at hand
>People who have never read a bible claiming to know how God works
Listing off racist, sexist drivel doesn't constitute an argument.
I don't read fiction.
i hate that demiurge
unironically this
*nods respectfully in your direction*
>not educating yourself on arguably the most influential written text and philosophy in history
Spoken like a true fedoranigger.
I don't believe that any religion in its current form is correct, and i'm actively against people shoving religion down secular people throats. However, I am aware that I know nothing about the universe and the possibilities that are out there, so I don't rule out the exsistance of a being that any religion describes. I admire people of belief that take 'god' and put it into just being a good person and doing good deeds(though i'm really certain that you can do this without religion), but I roll my eyes whenever someone religious treats natural phenomenons or pure randomness as something directed by god. I think its really fucking stupid to think that everything happens for a reason.
Is there a term for this type of belief?
that baby was a future republican voter
Theres more copies of the Ikea catalogue out there than the bible. Only one of them has any value.
>how to utterly destroy faith in one simple post
Damn.. really made me think. If god existed he really is an asshole.
>I don't read fiction
Imagine being this autistic
Stay strong user
You're just on the path to figuring out what religion is actually all about. The idea of a personal god and the idea that everything scary or unpredictable can be attributed to divine intervention is a dumbed down version of religion to help the retarded masses ease into things. The search for higher truth and understanding the divine is much more complex than that.
>Imagine being a godtard
Learn to greentext properly, and also you should capitalize God's name.
Reminder that there is literally 0 repeatable evidence for god existing and this fact makes thiestfags seethe in confusion
>NO STOP INSULTING GOD YOU FUCKING FEDORAS
>/POL/ TOLD ME CHRISTIANITY WAS BASED AND REDPILLED STOP IT STOP IT STOOOOOPPP!!!
Unmoved mover
They've already cured certain types of cancer you moron. Maybe you should look up how cancer actually works.
Basically this
>one post on an indonesian fly fishing forum says god doesn't exist
>every christian in a 200 mile radius starts REEEEEEEEEing in unison
kek
based the one man soi spammer is here
Ah I too remember when I was 14.
1. Doesn’t Support Christianity: Even if we accept every premise of Kreeft’s presentation of this argument, all this would prove is that an Unmoved Mover existed, and that’s it! Seriously, that’s all it would prove. It would not prove that this Unmoved Mover still exists, that it’s a being, that it’s conscious, or that it impregnated a virgin, in order to sacrifice itself to itself so that it could forgive you for your ancestors’ actions… or in other words, it would not prove that Kreeft’s very specific interpretation of the Christianity is true.
2. Special Pleading: The second game-ending flaw with this argument, is that premise three – the assertion that “Something must’ve existed without a cause” - is an obvious case of Special Pleading. A Special Pleading fallacy occurs when a proponent creates an exception to a rule without adequate justification, and that is precisely what premise three is doing. It is literally asserting that premise two – the assertion that “Everything in motion is caused to be in motion by something else”, applies to absolutely everything except for the cause of the universe, without adequately justifying why. In fact, by itself, the argument doesn’t even attempt to substantiate this assertion… it just makes it.
3. Equivocation Fallacy: And this brings us perfectly to the crux of Kreeft’s faulty reasoning… in his attempt to assert that an Unmoved Mover does indeed exist, he offers two additional faulty arguments. The first is the assertion that “We now know that all matter – that is the whole universe – came into existence some 13.7 billion years ago, and it’s been expanding and cooling ever since.” State succinctly, the reason that this argument fails come down to the definition of the word “universe” Kreeft is using. If we are using the scientific definition of the universe – that being “all matter, space and time”, then yes, it is accurate to say that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe; but if we are using the colloquial definition of the universe – that being “everything that exists, everything that has existed, and everything that will exist”, then no, it is inaccurate to say that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe. Hence, because Kreeft uses the scientific definition of the universe for the conclusion of this additional argument, but he uses the colloquial definition of the universe for the conclusion of his main argument, he therefore commits an Equivocation Fallacy, and hence his argument is invalid.
4. False Premise: And the second faulty argument that Kreeft offers is the assertion that, “Because Einstein’s general theory of relativity says that all time is relative to matter, and since all matter began 13.7 billion years ago, so did all time. So there’s no time before the Big Bang.” Stated succinctly, this assertion is simply false.
Nah, make god make me.
>literally had to google and copypaste an argument against it
So this is the power of a fedoranigger
I don't come to Yea Forums to feel sad.
Trump, of course, a politician very well known for always telling the truth.
>>literally had to google and copypaste an argument against it
>So this is the power of a fedoranigger
Not an argument. Refute it or concede. Thanks for playing.
god dammit that's sad.
Yup. And also no other omnipotent, all loving god. BUt honestly, just looking at the absolute state of man, excuthe me... "peoplekind", should have given it away.
Enjoy spending eternity in hell because you couldn't be bothered to press the shift key.
obama and biden said the same thing
I've been banned on 4chins for equally innocuous posts
I'm not going to argue with someone who mistakenly assumed I was even talking about some faggot named Kreeft to begin with and literally fucking copypasted an argument specifically aimed at debunking him.
Yeah, uh, like, huhuh, that's true, huhuhuhuhu
Enjoy spending eternity with a God so spiteful he'd let you suffer for eternity for that.
Nice try, Kreeft. We know it's you.
Do Americans really do this?
>what is 21 years in front of eternity
>Implying there's a eternity
I do. Cut off your man parts and dilate faggot.
Holy lel at the seething redditors
>woman suffers horribly for 21 years for literally no reason before dying a miserable death
>"lol dude everything happens for a reason god loves you accept christ into your heart"
Way to lose an argument dummy.
There's so much wrong with this, idk where to begin. I wonder how her first marriage ended.
So what's your actual argument then? Explain what you think the unmoved mover is and why it is repeatable and proves the existence of god
>not "Wow! This really metastasized!"
>Explain what you think the unmoved mover is
For the universe to be in motion something had to put it in motion
>why it is repeatable
Universe is still moving which means I can repeatedly remind you that something moved it
>and proves the existence of god
Whatever moved things first had to exist outside of physics
>suffering
>bad
I'll add another (You) to make Christians look even more butthurt.
>Well if God exists then how do you explain bad thing????? Checkmate, theists.
At least he got 14 reddit gold out of his wife dying from cancer
How does one man just keep getting more and more based?
RIP