Why was the Reagan era so stupid?

Why was the Reagan era so stupid?

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Optimism run rampant. The 80’s were America’s victory lap. Everything was cheesy as fuck and nobody was bothered by it. The party. Everything went downhill from the 90’s onward.

why is our era so smart?

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Why don't you like fun OP? Had a bad day?

I think it's more 9/11 and wars who fuck you up, everything was so serious after. Even my favorites shows.

Anti intellectualism and the narrative of "freedom" being pushed as a right to choose stupidity over facts and intelligence. Check what Thatcher did to BBC during her years as PM and you will see. Reagan and Thatcher had very similar politics. Only the market matters.

clown president

clown world

same thing happened today. another clown president, the same guy who used to be on fucking The Apprentice, and went bankrupt milion times...hilarious shit

Because the 80's is why.

Because it's a repeat of the 80's thanks to everyone embracing 80's greed, fash-ionzz & hipster faggotry, also the boomers are lapping it up ravaging like locusts.

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people were lighthearted and loved fun after WW2. the longest day is far less solemn than saving private ryan

An impoverished nation has no future

1980s:
>the era of the greatest triumph of personal liberty in the history of the human race
>hundreds of millions escape totalitarian dictatorship, hundreds of millions more lifted out of brutal poverty
>peace abroad and at home

Now:
>coming up on 3 unbroken years of peace and prosperity
>unemployment at historic lows, wages growing at rates not seen since before the 2008 crash

Well shit, if that's what a clown President gets you, here's hoping for an infinite procession of clowns from here on in. The last time a President went this long without invading/regime changing another country was Jimmy goddamn Carter. By this time in their Presidency, Bush had invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, and Obama had turned Libya into a charnel house and started the Syrian Civil War.

This pic is from the last decade though

No one is saying that the market and the economy doesn't matter. But it is a problem if it's the only thing that matters.

>peace abroad
not anymore thanks to america

Nice fantasy world

The A-team was kino you zoomer fag.

>hurr

Yeah, we sure have been invading a lot of folks these last couple years

>durr

Well, Obama knocked over the Libyans and tried to knock over the Syrians, Bush II invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, Clinton bombed the holy shit out of Iraq and Serbia (and let's not forget sending troops into Somalia), Bush I had Iraq and Panama, Reagan had Grenada and Libya...

The worst thing you can say about the current administration's foreign policy is that they seem too willing (if you like war) to talk with our enemies.

The 80's hipster faggotry has been in fashion since the last decade. Funny thing is the millenials were too young to remember the greed that the boomers were imposing on everyone & everything which they & the hipster faggots are replicating now. Makes me laugh when I see either of these demographics & people sneer at them at they don't understand why, even funnier when you see hipsters & boomers fight & the greed pigs just scream at each other to see who can out scream each other.

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God what I wouldn't give to be on this level of Yea Forums brain delusion

Well it looks like someones been watching waaaaaaaaaay too much news.....

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either
>Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Serbia, Somalia, Grenada, and Panama never happened
or
>we're somehow secretly invading some unspecified country while conducting the first-ever real diplomacy with North Korea

Yes -- truly it is I who is the delusional one. I'm of course not counting our longstanding policy of droning the shit out of anyone who even looks like they might be a threat someday, because that's just been policy since 9/11.

Lol this must be what you actually believe when you form your worldview based on the up-to-date news reporting of image board posting journalists

>nuh uh

A compelling argument.

Peak airborne lead.

>smart

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>Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq
Trump's military is still in literally all of these places you fucking smooth brained dipshit

Besides the fact that he's obviously testing the waters for a war with Iran, either to actually go through with it to boost his popularity before the election, or to hype it up and then let it fizzle out so he can claim he saved the day when he was actually the one who created it. Anyone who isn't a retarded donald obsessed manchild can see this clearly.

You'll never find me apologizing for Obama, Bush, Clinton or any of those cunts. But Trump is just as bad if not worse than almost all of them. You got tricked again you fucking joke of a human.

when you support a side it defies logic to argue with you as you support said side.

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You're right about one thing though. Trump's (admittedly) pathetic attempt to somewhat normalize relations between North Korea and the United States is a genuinely good position that he's held

I love how these kinds of individual are dumb enough to support either side when like you said, anyone can see what they doing if not obsessed with the crap coming out of the hole underneath their noses.

>other Presidents invade places
>you're trying to get out of them
>that's the same

lmao

>Besides the fact that he's obviously testing the waters for a war with Iran
>obviously

I love how every time someone says the guy's "obviously" going to start a war, it never happens. Remember when we were "obviously" going to war with NK in 2017? Those were the days.

>But Trump is just as bad if not worse than almost all of them.

Well, out of them, he's the only one who hasn't invaded a country, and the only one without the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on his hands -- so right now, no, he's nowhere near as bad.

>well I can't think of anything factual to rebut what you've pointed out
>and that really hurts my feelings, so I'm going to pretend I'm just too cool to talk with you
>even though I'm replying

I don't really blame them any more. This country is run by a propaganda machine so gargantuan and so central to our very essence of Americanism, most people will never even be aware of it's existence. This guy at least knows about it, just for some reason he thinks it's working on his side.

Ah, you should be an ancient boomer like me, you'd remember when Reagan was negotiating with Gorbachev and the media was saying literally exactly the same thing

>he's going to get us all killed with this warlike bluster!! He's a senile actor, he thinks this is the Wild West!
>oh now he's talking with them
>huh
>well he doesn't know what he's doing
>look at him standing there like a fool, he met them without any preconditions!
>the Soviets are going to eat his lunch!
>oh look, they walked away from Reykjavik without a deal, what a moron
>if only we Very Serious People on TV were in charge!

2 years later we got the intermediate missile treaty, 6 years later the Soviet Union did not exist

it's amusing that you support a side in this day & age, that I will discuss with you. Why would you repeat what people have been doing with this system from the beginning? It's almost like you like regurgitating & supporting a particular group of peoples so called beliefs because you've aligned with them.....well duh....lol

>I recite simple facts
>massive butthurt ensues, yet nobody can come up with a factual example of how what I'm saying isn't true
>I am the victim of propaganda here

By this time in Obama's presidency, Libya had been destroyed and the Syrian Civil war, backed with Saudi and CIA money, was in full swing. Millions were made homeless, hundreds of thousands killed.

By this time in Bush's presidency, Afghanistan and Iraq had been invaded and conquered by the US. Millions were made homeless, a million-plus killed, including thousands of American servicemen. Tens of thousands more of them wounded, many disabled forever. Doubtless another million-plus Iraqis and Afghans similarly wounded.

So far, we've got some mean tweets sent in the direction of Iran, a resumption of the sort of sanctions that have existed basically since 1979, and summits and handshakes with the other Problem Country, North Korea.

>non-sequitirs
>"my side vs your side" thinking, as if the world is a professional wrestling match
>not a single fact

If you think I'm the brainwashed one...

You said it yourself, he's had 3 years to get our beloved troops out of those countries, what's this pussyfooting about? Why doesn't daddy bring them home? Or could it be he's the same pawn in the military industrial complex US presidents have always been and he'll actually do nothing to reverse the systems of colonialism and imperialism that american foreign policy has always been about.

And it's obvious he's starting this shit with Iran because he himself tore up the deal, talked a bunch of shit about Iran on twitter, sanctioned them and sent 120,000 troops to the area just a week or two ago. Ultimately you're right probably nothing will happen, but everyone who is not you can see that it's because he manufactured this situation in the first place so he could use it as a political victory when war doesn't actually happen.

You're getting taken for a ride by a billionaire globalist, I'm sorry friend. You can see that the people on the other side are being taken for a ride by billionaire globalists, but you can't see when it's happened to you yourself

Agreed, I just pity them. This is trend in all westernized countries. Yep, they regurgitate, repeat, rinse & repeat. Least some of us can think for ourselves & use logic and commonsense.

You outed yourself as a boomer, and you're on the worst message board website on the internet debating politics with a bunch of high schoolers. I'm sorry, all is lost for you friend. You're a complete and unmitigated failure, your entire life is a waste, and the people who raised you are even stupider than you. Please stop posting and walk outside and shoot yourself in the head with a firearm.

>delusion
>it's apparently 2020

Actually, the peace process in Afghanistan is proceeding apace, last time I checked there weren't any regular troops in Libya, and the withdrawal from Syria's proceeding slowly but well.

So far, Trump's the first President in 40 years to pull troops out of countries without invading a new one.

>muh mean twitter

The Iran sanctions came back because the Iranians were breaking the deal, which basically everyone agrees. Hell, the Iranians announced they were breaching the stockpile limits weeks ago, and the Europeans have signed on with the renewed sanctions for the same reason.

And nothing's going to happen with Iran, except possibly a revolution.

>You're getting taken for a ride by a billionaire globalist

When we knock over another country a la Libya, or Iraq, or Serbia, or Grenada, I'll agree with you. So far, this is the longest we've gone without invading someone in 40 damn years, and I'm going to enjoy it.

If you see equivalence with the charming mass murderers who've been occupying the White House before the current guy, it sounds like you're the one being duped.

>bawwwww how come the mean man knows more than me

lmao

>high schoolers

You need to be 18 to post here kiddo

>I pity those guys who keep pointing out facts
>when don't they understand I just KNOW stuff is bad?

Yea and most of the people who post here won't graduate high school until they are 23.

Well you support an individual at the head of a party that happens to be in power right now and it's comforting for you sure, tragically though it means you will say buzz words like "non-sequitirs, brainwashed" & "my side vs your side thinking". Shame you haven't evolved a little more than 2019 requires but hey, there has to be some fodder so these parties think they've got it under control.

lel touche

>you support

I've just been stating facts. You're the one imagining the world's in some sort of Red Team vs Blue Team game. It's not.

If you think the people who wear red hats are Good People and the people who wear blue hats are Bad People, then you are seriously brainwashed.

This is my favorite part of modern conservative foreign policy. We all understand that Saudi Arabia directly financed and trained the 9/11 hijackers as well as dozens of other jihadist wahhabist terrorist cells around the middle east and the world. We all know that Saudi Arabia is garbage, a pretty common right wing talking point years ago was that we should just glass Saudi Arabia already and get it over with.

Now Trump raises arms sales to Saudi Arabia to historic levels, and we don't hear a single fucking thing from right wingers about it. We all know what he's doing, we all know what they're doing with those weapons. Your arguments are not coming from a place of good faith friend.

Yes, I do pity you & always will.
Sleep tight.

Facts...ok buddy whatever you say. Yes there's inherently bad people and good people, it's just weeding out the zombies in between like yourself who are stating facts that they heard from their fantastically accurate sources...but you knew I was already going to say all that didn't you...again....sleep tight.

Ok bait

Trump's got MBS' balls in his hand. Why do you think oil prices have stayed so low? Whenever supply starts to get tight, the Saudis pump more for him.

>nuh uh!

That's some fine argument right there

Lol you're like 50 but you write like a child.

>I know more than you lelelel XDD
>I'm on Yea Forums cause i'm edgy and hip, meanwhile I'm shitting in my diaper and my kids won't talk to me because I keep yelling at them about something called Q user

>Q user

That's just the right-wing tard version of you guys

More detail on this, from a guy who lives off a shipping fortune:

>A major Greek shipowner, whose political knowledge matches his wealth and business acumen, explained to me what the Qatar brouhaha is all about. My friend had the foresight to invest in LNGs, natural liquid gas carriers, among the most expensive of ships to build but big-time moneymakers. Why is it that it takes a major shipowner to know what’s really going on, rather than the bull put out by American hacks whose minds don’t seem to function any longer, at least since Trump’s triumph last November?

>Here goes: We sat on my terrace in Gstaad under the stars, watched the mountains turn dark blue from gray, and drank some good red wine, and I got the scoop. The first to ring the Donald after the election was the ruler of Saudi Arabia. (This column will dispense with ass-licking titles because the camel drivers created them and awarded them to themselves 85 years ago.) Trump was blunt with the Saudi ruler. “I’ll help you with Iran only if you help me sell American LNG and oil to China, and there’s only one way to do that.” “ Which is?” asked the head camel driver. “Stop Qatar from selling their LNG to the Chinese, and while you’re at it, both of you stop funding terrorists, or else.”

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The Saudis are a bunch of corrupt thugs, but their money's green.

Yeah I'm sure Trump has MBS balls in his hand, that's why he makes a fool of himself dancing around and kissing House of Saud juicy ass every time he gets the chance to meet with those freaks. We all know what's really happening. MBS has video tapes of trump raping little girls. Or if you're not that deep into epstein brain shit, he's just doing it to appease Israel, because as much as Netanyahu and king Salman hate each other, they both know they can continue to get rich manufacturing wars and selling oil if they work together a little bit.

>wild conspiracy theories

Lord, since Trump's taken office the Saudis have signed a goddamn peace deal with the Israelis, who they fucking hate. The first-ever, actually. MBS has even gone and publicly repudiated wahhabism, which is some serious get-yourself-killed stuff in SA even for a crown prince, and the Qataris have been screaming since Day 1.

Trump may go and shake hands with dictators for the cameras, because you don't get anywhere by publicly humiliating dictators, which literally everyone in the media seemed to fully understand until exactly January 2017, and now have somehow forgotten. But behind closed doors they're doing what he says.

Israelis might have some juicy shit on him for sure though, because Israel's the one country he ACTUALLY does whatever they say. Embassies in Jerusalem and all that.

spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/ It really is quite simple. Everyone is smart except Donald J. Trump. That’s why they all are billionaires and all got elected President. Only Trump does not know what he is doing. Only Trump does not know how to negotiate with Vladimir Putin. Anderson Cooper knows how to stand up to Putin. The whole crowd at MSNBC does. All the journalists do.

>They could not stand up to Matt Lauer at NBC. They could not stand up to Charlie Rose at CBS. They could not stand up to Mark Halperin at NBC. Nor up to Leon Wieseltier at the New Republic, nor Jann Wenner at Rolling Stone, nor Michael Oreskes at NPR, at the New York Times, or at the Associated Press. But — oh, wow! — can they ever stand up to Putin! Only Trump is incapable of negotiating with the Russian tyrant.

>Behind closed doors they're doing what he says

This is hilarious to me. Because for you to come to this conclusion you'd have to first believe that in any small part of Donald Trump's brain he actually is genuinely attempting to enact beneficial policies to provide greater security for working class Americans. If you believe Trump has any good will towards the american people, except for himself, his family and his rich friends, then you are an absolute fucking moron and should never be allowed to vote or produce children.

How can you clearly see that Trump is a shill for Israel, and then somehow still defend him like that's just one small negative to his otherwise stellar and transparent presidency. It's the main thing dude, him being a shill for Israel is why he does all of the terrible shit he does, you should be able to see this.

And you're right about Russia, that was a stupid fucking charade from the start perpetuated by terrified Democrats looking for anything and anyone to blame for their failures other than their atrocious policies and extraordinarily unlikable candidates