What about this didn’t age well?

I'm rewatching this right now. Skylar did nothing wrong. Not even with Ted. Prove me wrong

name one

>didn't age well

It's a modern fucking show

Seasons 1 and 2 were kino. The rest was just watered down easily digestable shit.

Didn't like the plot conveniences in the finale.

Someone redpill me on The Fly. Why did anyone even like that episode

>theme rebelling from authority
>wanting to rebel from Trump and Pence
you have to go back

So how did Jesse hide house ownership from tax collectors?

Not sure but I've watched the show twice now and I still stop watching the series in that last season where the ginger murders that kid on the bike. It just seemed dumb and there was a lot of dumb shit in the show.

Show is still new you fucking zoomers. To start being entry-old you have to reach LOST at least.

Nobody wears mustaches any more

I assume he was also having his money laundered somehow.

>Walt is le smart man
>Constantly makes the worst possible choice
uhhhhhhhhhh

the episode gus got his face blown off in an explosion but was able to walk out the room straighten his tie and fall over like some slapstick comedy.

Breaking Bad is like a sitcom at times though, thats what so great about it

You're talking to poster probably born the year it released

That was the only ridiculous thing in the entire show

so not an ENTIRE episode like you implied before, just a single 10 second scene from one random episode? ok faggot

Waving away the cancer, the main driver of the plot, so they can squeeze more seasons for the reddit audience.

There was one scene with dubstep, that's pretty much it

Literally kinématographique from start to finish.

Probably Hanks interactions with Gomie in season one.

>the cancer, the main driver of the plot
Imbecile alert

What, like calling him a beaner? Isn't that American banter?

Better Call Saul is better

Because it was directed by Rian Johnson

>I'm rewatching this right now. Skylar did nothing wrong. Not even with Ted. Prove me wrong
I don't know how to prove that adultery is wrong. If you let your girl sleep with other men, I guess that's just your preference, and your preference is exactly the same as valid as anyone else's.

>human makes mistakes
>user gets mad at it
uhhhhh

But he always fucks up

Why is adultery worse then being a literal murderer and drug dealer? Would you watch a cut of the show that has no Walt in it, since he's objectively a bigger piece of shit then Skyler?

Yeah but it wouldn't fly on tv these days

>Walt is so moral/righteous he won't take a handout from Greymatter
>It's perfectly ok to make copious amounts of drugs and kill people
>inb4 hurr that's the whole point, his char arc
They offered him the handout well into the series, yet he declined citing morals(despite showing 3-4 seasons of him demoralizing himself)
Show's fucking dumb.

Why didn't anyone like it

woman spotted

sick argument, go watch some capefiction

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>They didn't actually respect there own timeline, countless times they would mess up.
Osama bin Laden reference in Season 5. But other than that, what?

Pride

muh plot

>the episode gus got his face blown off in an explosion but was able to walk out the room straighten his tie and fall over like some slapstick comedy.
Upvote if you also thought they were gonna reveal that Gus is a terminator from the future, and the plot was gonna get really really weird.

>guy who has been humiliated his whole life refuses charity when he starts making a lot of money and getting a taste of power
Whoa, such mystery why that happened

user's right, you are a fucking woman. Dont know how you got moral and righteous from passing on a handout

Literally me

Why was there a red light coming from his eye

The first episode aired 11 years ago, and the finale was 6 years ago

>too much pride for a handout from a multi billion dollar company he helped build

This is actually one of the best things about the show. It didn't just try to copy the tone of Sopranos or Wire like every other prestige drama show out there, it had bizarre/funny/stylistic moments at times that kept things fresh and added contrast.

It also had a dubstep montage but we can be adults and forgive that

I loved the breather, loved it in first watch, still great

It's shit

It wasn't anything great at the time. The main problem with this show and Better Call Saul is that they try to be mundane and realistic while at the same time retarded cartoonish shit happens all the time.

I can't forgive that dubstep montage. I too think the other quirky shit was refreshing but that dubstep bullshit was so cringe

>LE I'm le danger LOL LMAO!

This is so SÖY LOLLLL

Evergreen is a better word than kino.

>spends your entire life groveling and meek and let your last important decision be to beg on your knees for help from the guy who stole your research and your girlfriend

>the finale was 6 years ago
This is scary. I'm in the exact same place I was 6 years ago. Oh god.

I was shitposting with you guys at the time, too.

The creators say it´s a Dark Comedy, take it as you will.

It’s still good, anyone who says otherwise is a brainlet contrarian,

Yeah he doesn't want two faced pity from people he despises completely

>helped build
Then why is he living on scraps and not driving a Bentley? However they left it, Walt deserved a much bigger cut and he got nothing

Brbad fans are fucking gay

It was supposed to be cringe retard.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Name one thing cartoonish about Better Call Saul

It actually aged quite well. There is yet a show to do what it did as well as BrBa. All crime shows after were just mediocre.

The first season is that but it quickly became much more serious in season 2.

There's a clear booooooOOOOOoooiiiiIiiiiiiIiiong present throughout the first season.

>show based on comic relief characters
>Mike is 100 year old version of Jack Reacher
>music montages of characters doing mundane shit every 3 episodes

Oh yeah? Well you're a fat nigger

It was a surreal and somewhat more artistic episode in the middle of the most engaging part of a tv show which is one of the most popular shows of all time. It was simultaneously a good episode but overrated as fuck due to Rian Johnson exploiting the fact that he had such an advantageous opportunity to briefly espouse counter-contrarian creativity in a show which got big in the first place because of contrarian creativity.

Like with many television shows it starts off strong but overstays its welcome. And there were some soft spots in the middle because the show creators needed to fill time. Overall it was good, a solid 8/10.

I also don't really care for Cranston's performance as he tends to "overact".

>show based on comic relief characters.
One character, and his portrayal is a far sight than how he is in BrBa. And no, just giving out quips and occasionally bending the law doesn't make them the same character.

>Mike is a 100 year version of Jack Reacher.
Mike's the same as he has been since his intro. Crying about his age doesn't mean jackshit.

And the montages are also an invented problem. Apparently, giving the show any sort of life and energy is a no-no even though it happens in the Sopronos and The Wire. Go fucking watch a doc or some other dry banal trash then.

>espouse counter-contrarian creativity in a show which got big in the first place because of contrarian creativity.
What are examples of "counter-contrarian creativity" and "contrarian creativity"?

>Nobody wears mustaches any more
This is becaue the birth control in the water stops anyone from being able to grow a moustache.

>But he always fucks up

He went from a soifed boomer who just goes with the flow to an enormously wealthy and powerful kingpin. How does he always fuck up?

it was relatable when the socialist African was president but now? Come on you're trying to be edgy

>getting pity-cash from the people that owe you billions
>accepting virtue signalling payments from what you consider your archenemies when you've just found out you're a talented druglord
watch the show again

It was THE pleb filter of it's time. Not that there is anything particularly genius in it, especially from today's point of view, but back in the day, making a super slow filler episode that actually had some point to it and even moved character development forward was thing liked by everybody who was not watching the show for le epic explosions and le epic quotes.

This poster is right. It’s about being the provider, not about money.

Not the user you're responding to, but he didn't say one was worse...you said she did nothing wrong, he said she did by cheating on Walt. You're a fucking idiot.

If you're dumb enough to still be on the Trump train, then you should know that Trump is allowing immigrants into this country in the highest numbers ever.

Trump betrayed Assange of wikileaks, pretending he doesn't even know who he is after praising his name on the campaign trail.

If you're a liberal who's tired of Trumpfags, just embarrass them with this simple video:
youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6VSCsxUSQ

t. 2016 Trump voter.

>even though it happens in the Sopronos and The Wire
Except those shows had an actually story and an actual character development. Story in BCS seem like a bunch of second hand ideas picked up from BrBa trashcans, and BCS idea of character development where every character makes some progress, and then gets backtracked to the beginning at the end of the season is something only pseuds here can find interesting.

"muh adulatory" is a pretty weak complaint considering she was trying to leave Walt("trying" because Walt wouldn't let her) and it was an attempt to get him to fuck off, but getting Ted involved was absolutely an asshole move because Ted actually had feelings for her, and she was only ever using him to get to Walt. Continuing to support Walt at any point was also probably a bad move. Most of the hate for her is based off of stupid shit, but in show she's a pretty shitty person(though obviously less so than Walt).

Yikes user

I actually watched this episode high as fuck and had no clue what was going on, thought that maybe i accidentally changed the show

This show is probably the :goat: drama. Definitely better than the Wire imo.

I'm watching The Sopranos for the first time rn and am on season 3 ep 3 so I still can't say for sure tho. I get the hype around this show now. Fucking love both Tony and Paulie

The only time I really got super invested in The Wire was the season that was about actual humans. The rest is just hard to relate to.

2 I think it was. Yeah that one was good.

The biggest pseud always happens to be the guy that calls something someone likes pretentious. It's an empty claim. BCS is much more layered than BrBa because its focus on the characters are alot more finely tuned, whereas by S3 the plot of BrBa had to be adhered to because of the fast rising audience. But all and all, it's a feat on its own to keep that tempo and not make any glaring mistakes.

As usual, goobers on this board are actively inventing reasons to find these shows poor. Even ignoring the collective praise, the biggest complaint is "wahh I dont like it"

>contrarian creativity
The protagonist not needing to be a “good guy” and exploring the human condition in a way that is still plot-driven and exciting
>counter-contrarian creativity
Emmybait miandering about bullshit completely unrelated to the plot

Breaking Bad, more like casual shit

>BCS is much more layered than BrBa because its focus on the characters are alot more finely tuned
Yeah, tuned to the sound of a bush rolling through the desert

Cheating is worse than murdering drug dealers and giving methheads meth.

reddit tier opinion

To add on to this
>counter contrarian
Contrarian for the sake of contrarianism

Breaking Bad, more like, “I hate it because I’m mad it’s popular”

the leftist message

That's up to you

nice post dude

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His wife has nice tits, would go balls deep and cuck the Meth lord.

good for one rewatch here and there but you can't expect much more after two whole viewings.

What's that?

First on your own, then with someone.

kek

The last season ruined the whole series. I’ve rewatched BB 4 times over the years, but I always skip the disaster of a last season and just pretend it doesn’t exist.

Hyperbole much? The last season was great.

Season 5 is actual pleb filter

A show about a middle aged white male that is tired of being a pushed around in life so he becomes an absolute badass that enters a criminal profession largely run by niggers and spics and outsmarts them all to become the top dog kingpin is, and I quote, “leftist propaganda”?

No it wasn’t. A neo-Nazi drug mafia is pure retarded fiction. The true ending was Gus dying.

BB is the only show you can safely say does have a shit part.

Yeah drug operations? Might as well be dragons and wizards huh user.... fag.

Except that's the aesthetic all white prison gangs use, who ultimately are just drug dealers.

Kek

Btw Trump 2020

A group of people with common interests running a drug op. What's next? ALIENS?

just saying that people with swastika tattoos selling meth is not fiction

Fuck you Todd, Uncle Jack, and the rest of the gang were the shit.

Sounds like some leftie who doesn't like it because neo Nazis are present in the story because "the bad bad"

That’s because white people in prison don’t want to be gangraped by minorities who make up the majority of inmates, so they just group together for protection. White supremacist drug mafias are still a thing of fiction though.

Retard missed the point

I don't know if it's happened but I wouldn't be surprised if it has. I have no clue why you don't think this could be a thing because they're white and connected to the AB. White people deal drugs too, better than shitskins even.

except for the part where white people in prison gangs larp as nazis and sell drugs

What? It aged just fine. Unless you're one of those spergs who think catching outdated technology being used is 'poor aging'

All seasons are kino, the only argument you can make is for the first half of season 5 which the network execs forced them to stretch out

My issue is not with white people dealing drugs, my issue is with the idea that there exists some neo-nazi mafia that runs the meth industry in fucking Arizona.

The Dixie mafia in Justified and the hillbilly drug dealers in Ozark are fine. A bunch of literal Neo-Nazis running the drug trade in the American Southwest is the dumbest shit imaginable.

families don't eat breakfast together like in the 1950s when this was made

>Comparing Breaking Bad to The Wire and Sopranos
Nigger what. The Wire is quite a lot better, there are so many levels to it, and it doesn't magically solve stuff for plot reasons. The Sopranos is on another level entirely, it's not even comparable to fucking Breaking Bad.

I'd argue that this should have been the focus of the show but Vince Gilligan like ominous scary thing so we got the twins instead

I'm not the person he was initially talking to faggot, kill yourself

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Not the guy, but it really is. Drug dealers are scum and should be executed on sight anyway, methheads are going to find meth either way. The only difference between being a cheater and being executed for high treason, is which entity (another person vs. a country) you betray. Kill a traitor before the enemy, that's the rule.

>Thinking The Wire is better than Breaking Bad
Shitty taste confirmed.

I like The Wire a lot but that shit is so overrated. Breaking Bad does everything at an extremely high level and is definitely the better show all around. The B characters are more interesting too. Problem with The Wire is there's so many B characters they don't get a chance to develop them all very well

As for The Sopranos, like I said I'm still not done with it. So far though, I love this shit and also consider it better than The Wire. James Gandolfini is an incredible actor and everything that comes out of Paulie's mouth makes me lol

Plot-wise I think all 3 shows are on the same God tier, but the little things honestly I think Breaking Bad and The Sopranos both do a lot better than The Wire

Also when tf does Breaking Bad "magically solve something for plot reasons"

when they do stuff like using magnets to solve their problems

That was scientifically accurate that. What's magic about that, it was a clever way of solving a problem

Or is this some "fucking magnets how do they work" shit

it's retarded, you know full well that nobody ever uses magnets that way and just because there is some scientific basis for it doesn't make it make sense

that's why BB is stupid, it's just a bunch of nonsense happening in a world that is inconsistently realistic

Yeah this is just as retarded as lefties saying a movie is racist because they showed a black person robbing a store in Detroit.

They're not a mafia where are you getting this shit from? I guess they more resemble a biker gang. They do exist, some are white and a lot of them deal drugs.

I don't know what world you're living in but this it probably one of the most plausible scenarios of the entire season. You need to let this go.

the first two seasons spent too much time stringing out the drama imo. I think the show got way better when walter's family had decidedly become an excuse rather than the reason for his crimes.

Psuedointellectuals can use it to be like what you didn't like how it explored Walts meticulous nature, well I guess you're not meticulous enough to understand why it had to be 50 fucking minutes long.

Ryan Johnson is a little fucking weasel.

Wish there was a version with her played by a different actress.

The part where a public employee didn't have health insurance.

it was shit when it aired

Nothing, it's the best show of all time

>unabashed 4chin contrarianism coming through

low key based observation

That's the point of the story

I'm not sure what your problem with that is, it made sense. They even included the part where the van tips over, which is exactly what would happen when you crank up a magnets power like that from a metal van. Like I get it, you wouldn't see someone irl do that probably but just because people irl don't do it doesn't mean it's not possible.

Characters on The Sopranos have extremely vivid dreams that they can somehow always remember in perfect detail afterward. Shows do shit that isn't perfectly realistic all the time.

Very few of the characters are compelling compared to other shows similarly quoted in the same bracket of quality (Mad Men, Sopranos, Deadwood, The Wire, The Leftovers). Some like Jesse become downright stagnant and annoying halfway through. Mike, Marie, and Hank are flat. Skyler pales in comparison to Carmela and Betty Draper; much more complex versions of the 'housewife' archetype.

The script isn't as rich or clever and a lot of the intrigue depends on cliffhangers. There are few things to 'discover' upon rewatch and the effect of those cliffhangers is dulled after you watch through it once.

she showed genuine concern for Ted, who was also a criminal in his own way. I think Ted's involvement added nuance to Skylar's character by contrasting Walt's villainy with some light white collar fraud. there's the obvious complaint that the protagonist, despite being evil, didn't deserve to get cucked. but he did. he got way more turned on in the "say my name" scene than he ever did with his wife.

It's not that it's not possible it's that it is a ridiculously farfetched premise. The Sopranos using dreams as a way to illustrate that a character subconsciously knows something they don't want to admit to themselves is not the same.

I remember the dream I had this morning

I probably would like Skyler if they didn't write her complaining 24/7. It makes me hard to feel bad for a character when all they do is complain

>Plot-wise I think all 3 shows are on the same God tier
Breaking Bad was so boring to me in the beginning, I never watched it on the initial run(s). Only after a friend recommended it after its conclusion, did I begin watching it.

Too long since I watched it, I should probably re-watch at some point, but I still remember a lot of major details too well. I can't give you a specific scene or episode. Breaking Bad just feels very cartoonish, if things start going wrong, they basically always manage to solve it. There wasn't really ever the worry that Walt wouldn't just pull another rabbit out of his hat to stave off hunger once again, it was much like a "regular" show in that sense.

With The Wire, I don't agree with the "underdeveloped B characters" at all, until maybe late season 4 early 5 when the faggot Marlo comes in and ruins the whole flow of things with his cast of "Why haven't these guys been hit back yet, and why should I give a shit about any of them?"-characters, but until then it manages to show off a great wealth of characters, and develop them at least to my satisfaction. Its greatest strength, watching it now in 2019 (yes, I am extremely late with The Wire), is that it isn't a guaranteed win feel good drama-packed show. It's very realistic in a lot of things, and I appreciate that.

Breaking Bad is more like someone's crazy "What if I was a badass"-dream, the developments aren't actually realistic, but you go along anyway because it leads to fun adventures. Ultimate, you know that it doesn't actually portray any realistic reality, however. I think The Wire, and the Sopranos, both do.

>the first two seasons spent too much time stringing out the drama imo.
That's probably the main reason that turned me off to begin with. That, and both Walt/Jesse took their sweet time developing into characters you gave a shit about beyond "I hope the protagonist makes it so that I can see more whacky adventures".

The Leftovers belongs with those other shows? I'll take that as a recommendation since you're a guy who gets it

>Ultimate, you know that it doesn't actually portray any realistic reality, however. I think The Wire, and the Sopranos, both do.
Not to say that I only want "realistic" shows, not at all. But those two shows managed to show something realistic, and still make it exciting. They're fun to re-watch, because they build on things like great interactions between characters, constant antagonistic elements that are just there as a way of life (and not another "boss" to be defeated/moved on from), and some characters run into total dead ends (and death) for sometimes banale reasons, never to recover. It's great because it's built on characters, not punchlines, action, or them demonstrating how great they are. They just are, and that's great (if your actors/script can pull it off). They're not super-human, they're merely walking through life like the rest of us.

I loved it, but it proves divisive.

If you're into the Mad Men and Sopranos approach of character and theme over plot, ensemble casts, dig supernatural and surreal elements in stories and are fine with big plot questions being decisively left ambiguous, then absolutely watch it.

I'd say at least give it the first three episodes. First two had me interested in the premise and cast but not blown away; the third was fantastic and had me in for the ride.