The Boys

You really don't think it felt shoehorned and preachy?

I don't mind it in the boys but in other media like stand up it's pretty tired.

>post 2015 Yea Forums
>anti christian

its not anti christian you fucking retard. it's anti-church. if jesus was alive today, he wouldn't make "pray the gay away" his first priority. jesus would be a pot smoking, peace loving hippie. all the "dont be gay its a sin!!11" and "dont have sex before marriage!!!11" is literally bullshit they added into the bible hundreds of years after jesus was even alive. jesus didn't go around preaching abstinence. he went around telling people to be nice to each other.

starlight has good morals and good character from her christian upbringing. she is kind to others and not a bad person. she isn't a slut, or a roastie. hell, she even falls for hugh, just because hes super nice to her and treats her like a regular human being.

all she said in that speech was that acting like you know what is the best for people and forcing it on them because "muh god said so" is fucking retarded. and shes absolutely right. the scene was a little bit awkard but its MEANT to be awkard. its like linsay lohan giving the burn book speech at the end of mean girls. little cheesy but still totally realistic to her character and how she behaves.

starlight 10/10 cutie, especially when she went on a date to the bar in her red sweater hhnng

>Still believing in God but thinking the organized religion part is mostly bullshit makes you anti-Christian

Ok.

you expect people on Yea Forums to read or have read the source material?

I thought they did a good job, better than DC has at least

amazon shills fuck off

>watches anything from Hollywood. the place filled with pedos and rapists
>it glorifies everything the bible stands against
>gets surprised

OP, you're kinda slow on the uptake aren't you?

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It's important to note Ennis is from Belfast and so has seen two sides of a Christian divide blow each other up over it for decades.

only the "we were made by god" and no one knows about compound V.

They act as if religion is the big main thing in culture that needs to be subverted - instead of jewy fast food corporate liberalism. It's not christians dictating the world who then turn out to be hypocrites like we're in a 80s movie, it's the goody liberals who then turn out to be cunts, or the feminists who turn out to have exclusively rape fantasies

"God, the Messiah, would just be me."

damn this is some mighty narcissism. Yeah, God asks nothing of you except what you're passively into already

Burn the books speech? You mean breaking the tiara?

>if jesus was alive today, he wouldn't make "pray the gay away" his first priority. jesus would be a pot smoking, peace loving hippie.

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christians are fucking stupid

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I had to stop watching right there. Im so sicken tired of the anti christian sentiment on pedowood.
Can I get a praise Jesus

I can't wait until all christcucks are gone

fuck are you talking about, they're the definition of "well-meaning" for all the danger that that represents. american evangelical christianity is a history of people fucking up when they were only trying to help.

Happy Hanukka

lol posting that article as if anyone would become some vegan faggot reading 'the friendly atheist'

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Are you new here?

Usually don't agree, but this indeed

Mocking schizos who believe in fairy tales is never out of place

>muh jews
Every time. Not for a second I believe you people are actual christians

>Capeshit
>Anti-Christianity out of place
Capeshit was invented by a bunch of Christ killers, it's a feature

Found the soulless creature.

boys doesnt make fun of the jews

>did a good job
They fucked over everything about the boys. The show is about them in name only.

No considering its a show produced by Jews which is adapted from a comic made by an atheist who hates Christianity

We realized that 90's soccer moms were right about everything

it's capeshit, everything is out of place

God forbid the liberals that made this show make fun of islam. fucking cowards.

Reminder that jews opened the gates of toledo so Moors could invade and subjugate Spain for 8 centuries and that's why we hear non stop about how the spanish inquisition is evil (because it defeated jews and muslims)

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Eh - as someone who literally only eats meat - I can agree with this.

>Because I believe that what GOD wants me to do is get on over there, find the filthy sand niggers that masterminded this whatever shithole they came from AND INTRODUCE THEM TO A LITTLE SOMETHING THEY CALL GOD'S JUDGEMENT

>THAT'S WHAT I THINK

>SOUNDS LIKE THE WHITE THING TO DO. SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO

That speech really caught me by surprise. Did Raimi guest direct this episode

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Felt to me like it was more against televangelist style shows where Christianity is a product, to be honest.

This . It's hard to see how celebrity seeking superheroes would be branding themselves as pro-abstinence Christians instead of rainbow-shitting strictly secular SJWs in the current year.

If you haven't personally spoken to god, then shut the fuck up, you don't know what you're talking about. Reading the bible doesn't mean you know shit about religion, it just means your good at doing what other PEOPLE tell you, not what god tells you. The bible wasn't written by god.

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((()))

*AHEM*

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Based

>Reading the bible doesn't mean you know shit about religion

you are neither hot nor cold, and i will spew you out of my mouth

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"I'm not religious, I'm spiritual - which means i'm already perfect and the mighty and most divine father asks nothing of me - except that which I made up, ie what I already do and am"

You're new to Garth Ennis aren't you

> and that's why we hear non stop about how the spanish inquisition is evil (because it defeated jews and muslims)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomás_de_Torquemada
>He came from a family of conversos (converts from Judaism)

Intredasting

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>it didn't match it word for word so it's trash
Jurassic park is the worst movie ever made then

I've heard people make that argument - so I'd be careful which doors you open haha.

>pretending

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They're still stuck in this image of themselves as rebels fighting the 50s, when banks are putting up trans flags and corporations and celebrities demand you celebrate pride and fight 'Le Nazis'

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"huh hitler was actually gay and jewish haha, he had a small dick"

>>dont have sex before marriage!!!11" is literally bullshit they added into the bible hundreds of years after jesus was even alive.

Dude im sorry but this just isn't true, jesus talked about marriage exactly like the evangelicals DIRECTLY in the gospels, and he wasn't really ideologically compatible with John Lennon hippie liberal stuff at all

This is a modern apologist meme

here. They would be building an image like this guy . They would be anti organized religion, but still "spiritual". That way they'll get into fewer controversies but could still claim
divine moral imperative. Or there could be a B superhero team that's marketed directly to Christians, you know, just like in the comics, but I guess leave it to Canadian Hollywood jews to improve on the books based on
their narrow personal beliefs.

>DUDE! Jews faked the history of de Torquemada
>akcually Yeshua bin Marian was Nordic-Aryan, bruh
Sure

>I for one, am glad that we enlightened ourselves to the stupidity of the Christians, btw all the women in my country are wearing burkas and the suicide rate is skyrocketing, crazy huh?

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Go play with your books. Spend the rest of your life doing what you're told. You might be able to fool others, but you'll never fool yourself.

Deep down, you'll wonder what's wrong. You read the books they said to read, but you still don't feel like you can really call yourself religious. You hope pretending and following the rules is enough, even if you're not sure you believe it.

lel

Not me though, I have no doubts. Once you're truly enlightened, you don't have to worry about being wrong anymore. It's hard to explain to the brainwashed though, I just hope someday you will see the wings on your back.

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If they were being faithful to Ennis they'd also make Butcher into a average soldier guy who's very right wing (he thought Tatcher was great even though she was gutting the field where his wife worked)

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this is correct

The ironic thing is that jews and "christians" in the US are in league together.

What's your point?

>Once you're truly enlightened
lol you're literally worse than the most neckbeard atheist

I was literally a communist atheist all my life, but I have sympathies towards expressions of faith that clash against changing tides and the winds of capitalism. You're literally the encarnation of that faggy impetus of going with whatever, a girl just picking 'spiritual' stuff from a buffet of industrialized postmodern soup

>btw all the women in my country are wearing burkas
For the millionth time now, burgertard: the Christkike NGOs are at the forefront of open borders and Mudslamic mass immigration, even before the Jews. You have been told, sourced and explained this for four fucking years now. And you still repeat this retarded fucking meme of Christkikers somehow not being a universalist, anti-racist, anti-tribalist religion, but your DEUS VULT! larp fantasy of it being the bullwark of Europe while it is the exact opposite.

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you don't seem to get it. if you just came right out and admitted you were promoting sin, you'd be infinitely more preferable to christian morality than what you are right now. christians expect sin, it's our nature as fallen beings. jesus doesn't get mad at sinners or doubters, he ministered to them. when thomas doubted his return he didn't condemn him, he went to him and let him touch his wounds.
what jesus DOES, UNEQUIVOCALLY AND TOTALLY hate is people who try to play both sides. he told the lukewarm christians that they made him sick. he wrecked the temple because it was being used as a market. he came right out and said he came to divide things, and told people to let their yes mean yes and their no mean no.
you understand that, right? you're ALLOWED to doubt in christianity, but you are NOT allowed to pretend your doubt is authority. THAT is why i have no respect for you.

when's the last time your 'christkike' pagan atheism ever did anything?

That wasn't Christianity, that was an American something but not Christianity.

Christianity has cathedrals, soothing well-dressed priests, old ladies attending mass and then chatting on the steps... That was, well I don't know what I saw.

>Yeshua bin
you're this guy huh

>Catholicism
>Christianity

Because christianity isn't a large media zeitgeist used to convince the US population what to think/feel/do anymore. Vought acts like a media company from hollywood, hollywood would never embrace christianity to this degree

Protestants in Germany and England also have cathedrals hehe. And America has tents...

Why would I care what Jesus says? He's not god.

And sin is a christian thing anyhow, it's like giving me a red card when I'm not a basketball player. I can double dribble if I want because I'm not in the NBA so your organization's rules don't affect me.

Sinning's only for Christians.

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Did she suck all those dicks in the show?

"Yeah, God asks nothing of you except what you're passively into already"

the image of a grown ass man who's addicted to candy-colored japanese cartoons suits you. "Burp, god is like a energy that wants me to drink the soda pop im drinking now"

*tips fedora*

it's been a while but didn't this only come up like a few times in conversation between hughie and annie and in the BELIEVE shit in the park? maybe there was an inner monologue with annie about not being sure about god's plan for her or something but nothing overtly anti-christian

They would diversify. I only skimmed through the comics but inside those, they run a "goody two shoes" teenage group that spouts Christian rethoric for Christian evangelicals to follow, and also run an edgy teenaged group that probably says things like "god don't real :)".

So evangelicals and edgy atheists each have a group of superheroes to latch on to, and voila.

God does exist tho

>Why would I care what Jesus says? He's not god.

lol way to out yourself retard

Reddit is so ridiculously lame

You have no idea what God asks, because you never spoke to him.

I have though.

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Hey, you know what's fun to ask people who don't know anything about history? Watch this:

Leonardo Di Vinci didn't have a last name. He was named of the town of Vinci. This is common practice in ages gone past. That's why we call him "Jesus of Nazareth" ..... oh wait no, wait, we call him Jesus Christ, don't we? But you know, isn't it odd that they sometimes call him "of Nazareth" when he was born in Bethlehem?

so what is his real name?

Front National: secular, FPÖ: secular, AfD: Secular, Sweden Democrats: secular...

East-Germany: atheist, right-wing and ethno-nationalist. West-Germany: majority Christian, open borders, little Afghanistan, leftist. Merkel: Christian Democratic Union.

This has also been explained ad nauseam.

the grace granted by christ's crucifixion belongs to everyone on earth. it's yours to freely reject of course, but you're gonna get exactly what you pay for, separation from a god who loves you.
what you're afforded, on the other hand, is the wholesale spiritual forgiveness of every single bad thing you've ever done and ever will do.

we don't call alexander the great "alexandros o makedon" either. does that mean he achieved nothing? it's a literal drumpf-tier argument.

yeah when I think merkel I think right wing christian

I wasn't arguing, I just asked you a question.

You are to smart for this thread leave.

>created by Seth Rogen
what did you expect? lol

you weren't arguing, you were engaging in deliberate ambiguity to try and distract from the arguments others have been making in this thread. once again, your formlessness is more disgusting to christian morality than any outright promotion of sin ever could be. just own your satanism already, stop pretending you can have it both ways. sin is part of the game, but you're trying to be a halfway crook.

This is accurate. If it happened today, there would be at least two companies (probably 4 or more really), all owned by the same parent company.
The biggest of them wouldn't mention religion or anything diversive in an attempt to appeal to the largest audience base. But other companies would focus in on every niche

Isn't Ennis British ? Those people can't help themselves
>inb4 he's Scottish / welsh
Whatever .

/thread

uh oh, uh mister, satan actually isn't in the bible though, that's just a character from fan fiction.

he came out first in Paradise Lost, in the year 1667.

Yep this. In the comics they have a pro-gay superhero who goes to gay clubs and stuff to talk. It’s the same profit-driven corporatism that made Vought set up their evangelical-oriented superhero teams.

this is weak fucking trolling, but on the off chance you legitimately don't know, no, satan does occur in the bible, in both the old and new testaments. he personally tempts jesus in the desert.

Jesus talks to the devil in the New Testament, and he of course has a prominent role in Revelations.

>The Son of God, who told people he came with a sword, would be just like my college roommate stoner friends.

>They fucked over everything about the boys. The show is about them in name only.
This is a good thing. The comics are trash.

Christianity bad. All other religions good.

are you trolling as a 2006 internet cliche guy?

Cause anti-white, anti-Christian politically correct liberals are the new 90s soccer moms.

When does Starlight’s religion come up. I’m only on episode 1. So far the only reference to Christianity are a demographic and to show the one guy being a gay hypocrite.

It wasn't anti-Christian. It was anti-extremist. There ARE Christians just like that. They exist. So what, is nobody allowed to portray some religious nutjobs at all?

Dude, this show is produced by Seth {{ Rogen }} , Simon {{ Goldberg }} and Eric {{ Kripke }}

What did you expect?

pretty sure those bad (Supe) terrorists in this show are Muslims

I was quite surprised that they added the anti-Christianity from the comic book. Annie would still have a ways to go if it were to follow the book, though.

nah spirituality is subjective, so all organized religion is false.

>jesus didn't go around preaching abstinence.

Matthew 5:27-28
>Ye have heard that it was said by them of
old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
>But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh
on a woman to lust after her hath committed
adultery with her already in his heart.

Matthew 15:19-20
>For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
>These are the things which defile a man

Mark 8:38
>Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Does she become atheist?

>one church of one sect is portrayed as gullible and fucking weird
>DUDE LMAO THEY HATE ALL CHRISTIANS!

There was nothing extreme about what they were doing unless you're a faggot lover.

Evan Goldberg*

I don't recall if she becomes an outright atheist, but I do remember at one point she renounces her religion. No wishy-washy compromise like the scene from OP. She says "I'm no longer a christian."

It was portraying extreme ignorance. Not even when it comes just faggots. Just ignorance so strong common sense is thrown to the side.

Yeah bro the militant atheist writer and the Jewish producers would never create anti-Christian propaganda

Yikes

After the Homelander, Black Noir, and A-Train force her to blow them and she’s learned what supes are really like she goes to a cathedral in NY and pretty much tells God that he doesn’t exist. It’s a bit on the nose even for a comic book.

Yeah bro nobody can portray people that actually exists without it being propaganda

No proof that it's satan

I too enjoyed the scene where Huey turned to the camera and remarked about how Judaism, Islam, Hinduism and Shinto were "perfectly fine and acceptable religions but all Christians deserve to be shot". Really added to the atmosphere

Just look up the producer's, director's and writer's ethnicities for that episode. Nothing new under the sun.

half the people here are 90s soccer moms from /pol/

I have to disagree, user, I do think it was anti-christian. It starts up by showing what the Bible says and then how she is not aligned with it. Not anymore or not ever at all? Who's to say.

My only problem with it was that Starlight was apparently upset about them being anti-gay marriage. This ultra-conservative, ultra-religious girl from the rural Midwest and we're supposed to believe she's tolerant towards gay people?

It's like when Captain America was completely cool with waking up to find out America had a black president.

It was not attacking Christianity as a whole. Anyone who thinks so is unironically triggered as fuck and being defensive other a fucking web series.

Because acting like a 90s soccer mom is counter culture now

Now I know you’re a troll but I’ll post the passage so no one gets the idea you’re right.
>Then saith Jesus unto him, “Get thee hence, Satan, for it is written, Thou shalt only worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. -Matthew 4:10

The original writer is Irish and he was way more anti-Christian than the show

There are all sorts of fucking bibles out there. News flash: Not all Christians agree with even one another

>posting a shitty translation as "proof"
Next, you'll tell me that "Jesus" is a divine holy name

Yeah bro Hollywood would never attack Christianity

They all agree that faggots go to hell.

I never said that.
Not true.

My local Episcopal Church has a gay pride flag on their fence

>proddies

>using logical fallacies

Can someone tell me when Starlight being Christian comes into play? What episode?

It's almost like people who literally believe the oral myths of 2000 year old goat fucking desert Jews ARE stupid as shit

Don't remember the number but there's a whole episode centering around an Evangelical Christian convention. Honestly feels a little out of place, it was probably more relevant back during the Bush Administration when the comics were written.

you faggots get offended about everything
im going to go hit a dab on you rn for being little bitches

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5

5 or 6.
It was just a shitty way of showing that she was finally thinking for herself. She's a fucktard.

can you please stop

Anime is for gays

would you prefer it in the greek?
>Ὕπαγε ὀπίσω μου, Σατανᾶ
jesus calls his tempter satan. stop this weak trolling, you're not fooling anyone.

so edgy

Your probably right.

Then you should burn it.

This is an excellent thread

DAYOOS BOLT

'Don't trust anybody who says they have the answers. Except racism, that is evil and don't question why'

Do reddit fedora atheists really look like this?

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>encouraging hate crimes and domestic terrorism
Fuck off, Mohammad.

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>having premarital sex isn't immoral. it's just human

Great argument. Killing isn't immoral. It's just human.

Nah it's a nice church

Flag burning is free speech glow nigger.

Coming from the guy that gets his morals from a book. Bravo.

>having premarital sex isn't immoral. it's just human

Beyond the fact it's a sin which is a bizarre thing for an ostensibly devout Christian to actually say (even if they sometimes think that in their head), it's also objectively destructive.

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>Not all Christians agree with even one another

Well, I don't know if it was the intent of the show to denounce that sort of pick-and-choose Christianity. But I think it was shown when Annie and the pastor clash. She either has to knowingly lie to the teenagers to keep the facade, or she has to admit to non-sanctioned actions in her past and be open about it.

Annie, could have resolved the conflict in the end with a "oh, we're all sinners. Learn from my mistakes, something-something-Jesus." Instead she walks away from the whole thing and denounces people who claim to have the answers.

The whole thing was anti-religion and anti-Christianity specifically.

Not when it's somebody else's flag and vandalism, dipshit. Committing a crime due to hatred of a group is a hate crime. Encouraging such things is encouraging terrorism (hate activism) Expect the van to be there in 10 minutes.

Yea Forums is a christian board

where do you get your morals from?
>inb4 "myself"
>inb4 "i have no morals"

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>best character is Christian
>anti-Christian show

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It's not anti-religion to tell people to think for themselves. You're just triggered.

Homelander isn't Christian. He's Homelander-an.

Based, lets turn this into a zoomer thread, it's the only thing that can out-cringe the atheists (redditors)

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Julian was not a Jew, he was a native Hispanic pissed that the Gothic barbarians raped his daughter and couldn't keep their own promises.
In fact the rival who he ousted from power were in league with jews and arians.

Life and the Golden Rule. I know what I would/wouldn't want done to myself personally so I would never do those things to others.

Against Diva TV preachers and people justifying wars because God wants it? No.

>the golden rule
GOSH I WONDER WHAT BOOK HAS PROMOTED THAT RULE MORE THAN ANY OTHER IN HUMAN HISTORY

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Why does that matter? You still don't need the Bible to have empathy.

Christians can dish it out but they can't take shit.

Can someone please post panels of Homelander calling people niggers in the comic? I enjoyed those but forgot to save them from the last thread

user, stop wasting your energy on him.

but if you take it as an article of faith, then it demonstrates that human decency to be a divine thing. it's an invitation to eternity, rather than just a social more that you can keep or dispose of at your own pleasure.

Not to mention the fact that STDs are the blatantly obvious sign that having sex with more than one person in your life is a bad idea. Hepatitis C highly contagious if you have sex with multiple people. However, if a couple is in a monogamous relationship where one has hep C and the other is clean, they can have sex as much as they want and the clean one won't get infected.

does it matter ?

>but if you take it as an article of faith, then it demonstrates that human decency to be a divine thing
Are you suggesting that people didn't know not to kill one another because they themselves don't want to be killed until a book came along?

Without the threat of hell it's kill them before they kill you.

>You're just triggered.

I think you are confusing me with a christian due to to my view on what the show was aiming for. I'm not.

i didn't suggest that even a little bit. of course there was decency prior to jesus, it's only that that decency was strictly social, and there was no great reward for being decent. with grace, there's all the reward you can imagine.

he's a complete degenerate who is using christians and ideologues to further his own interests.

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>and there was no great reward for being decent. with grace, there's all the reward you can imagine.
Doesn't Christianity explicitly forgive all sins and get everyone into heaven as long as you pray to Jesus or whatever though? You don't get extra heaven points for being extra nice.

>literally everyone is raised on christian morals even if they are not religious
>atheist parents teach their kids christian values
>"UUUUH YOU DON'T NEED DA BIBLE REDDIT TOLD ME SO"

Is that why you're a good boy, user? For a reward? Some fucking morals.

So looking at an attractive woman and instinctively thinking to myself "whoa, she's hot" is a sin on par with adultery? A high crime that leads to all other crimes?

You gotta wonder why people don't take religion seriously anymore. This is just some fucking bullshit, honestly. How can anyone even believe that? Threats, violence, rape...these are all crimes. But just feeling lust is a sin? Give me a fucking break.

just like all the Christians in this thread, dare I say in the entire Yea Forums, racist supremacists

lol aren't you confusing them with atheists?

>literally everyone is raised on christian morals even if they are not religious
No. They are raised on human morals. The idea of treating people how you want to be treated is not a Christian idea.

The real question is how the FUCK did this hideous fucking freak get cast? Was anyone else viscerally repulsed any time """she""" was on screen? I mean fuck she's ugly

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captain america wasn't a white supremacist retard he would be nice to any peaceful person as long as they weren't cobra scum

Religions in general seem to be really fixated on sex. Lots of rules about whether you can or can't jack it, genital mutilation (especially in the Muslim world and the US), that sort of thing. Weird shit.

Depends on your chosen flavor of christianity.

Christians made it popular, though

It was Jesus idea when he wrote the Bible, before him it was all pagan shit

>You don't get extra heaven points for being extra nice.

That's a point of contention between denominations, i.e. sola fide.

No it didn't. It just didn't have to be said until the Bible came along and people needed a way to say people are immoral for not following it.

jesus commands you to make your yes mean yes. you can't beg forgiveness and then go back to what you were doing before thinking you did your part. that's what boenhoffer called cheap grace. if you declare a side you have to be on it.
humans are inherently good, but we are fallen. the bad things you assume about me and about others are not our nature. they're weakness that is imposed on us. i've done terrible things, and so have you. we can be forgiven, and the full brunt of the consequences isn't on us if we don't want it to be.

She CUTE!!

>They are raised on human morals
"treat others as you wish to be treated" isnt a human thing. The human thing was always "but he is not me"

Yeah it was like a 13 year old's enlightenment and something out of some early 2000s tv show, just cringey in 2019 on a show designed for adults.

now i realize the show is designed by adults with the mental capacity of a 15 year old

Probably related to someone important.

Captain America wasn't a full-blown nazi or anything but he was a normal white guy who grew up in the 1930s. Even if he was the most progressive guy ever by the standards of his time he'd be considered pretty racist today. Imagine your average 80+ year old white guy, that's what Captain America would be like politically.

So basically they showed what actual christians believe and you don't like it? Lol

It's the idea of any fucking human with an IQ over 60. Jesus did not invent empathy. All he did was sell something people already had and believed in. Easy to get people to follow you when you say common fucking sense.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing

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>"treat others as you wish to be treated" isnt a human thing.
You're not a human then, Chinese bugman.

Before the Bible people were ok with honor killings, slavery and rape. Stop believing in all that noble savage/pagan bullshit.

No you fucking retard. Did you watch the show? It was completely within the context of the themes of starlight.

>Before the Bible people were ok with honor killings, slavery and rape.
Some still are and I'm willing to bet you are too to some extent if you're actually so upset about somebody saying something wasn't propaganda.

based

Please re-read the verse slowly and try to parse out what he's saying.

People were okay with slavery and honor killings long after the bible too

no, jesus didn't invent empathy, he commanded it, and he did invent the grace by which it will be rewarded in eternity.

It's toned down from Ennis, which is something to be grateful for because Ennis is at his most insufferable when he's fighting strawmen.

That's a 10/10 in burgerland

it was literally the most basic thing before christianity.

Christianity was literally born from (and denying) a tribal ethnochauvinist religion from the desert. Spartans thought "but athenians arent me, so I'll fight them" and vice versa

Okay, buddy. If that's what you want to believe then go ahead. It still negates nothing I've said.

It's Ennis so half of it is "cool" characters sitting around obviously venting whatever he's impotent raging over at the moment and the other half are exposition dumps of old men talking about "the war." The show adapted it accurately.

Nice projecting. You have any arguments?

Yeah, the non-Christian ones.

>casting an ugly but hatefuckable bitch into a position where she just gossips cuntily about poll numbers and is a total cunt

great casting you pleb

would you like your wife to partake in constant enjoyment of other men? To masturbate to them, to entertain the thought of fucking them, entertain the thought of going further and further? You know the principle here very well, you're just pretending you dont understand the argument

Everyone's a sinner, the point is do you indulge it?

Are you agreeing with me or what? I know empathy is one of the most basic traits of humanity.
>Nice projecting. You have any arguments?
>make argument
>(you) say something retarded
>say it's retarded
>lol do you have any arguments

>die or your home will be sacked and your women will be raped
Christianity had literally no impact on this, it's been happening since the beginning of human civilization

Okay, nutjob. Just keep believing that everyone was constantly killing people and the concept of not being a fucking asshole didn't exist.

Big-time out of place. It brings it down.

im saying the opposite of what you said, but I'll refrain from talking to you any further since you couldnt interpret the second sentence that made it obvious my point was people thought "but he isnt me, i'll enslave him"

I mean vegans are anti-human first and foremost and you'd have to be a vegan to eat that processed garbage.

>u retarded
>why?
>uuuuuuuuh u retarded
Better luck mext thread, fedora.

She's probably one of God's chosen.

>my point was people thought "but he isnt me, i'll enslave him"
Wasn't that exactly what Christian Europeans were thinking when they started enslaving Africans?

there's nothing to negate, you haven't made a point at all, you've argued from your own misunderstanding and pretended it's authoritative. as i've said before, that is literally more loathsome than just coming out and admitting you want to do violate christian morality just because it feels good.
it's understandable that if you aren't a christian you won't operate within christian morality and will reject it on sight. it ISNT understandable or acceptable for you to then get pissy because others reject you right back. if you want to play the game you have to be in it. ain't no such things as halfway crooks.

Fine with me, ya condescending prick.
>I say something
>you call me retarded for retarded reasons
>wow that's retarded
>hurrrr argument?! You're not even thinking, hypocrite.

tribal affiliations were extreme, athenians and spartans thought of each other as entirely different peoples

judaism was basically a cartoon version of nazism dreamed up by desert nerds

you sound like a deranged cuckold lunatic. if i see an attractive person, its natural to feel attracted to them for a second or two. obviously i'm not going to cheat if i'm in a relationship and i'm not gonna stalk her or whatever. but my wife or girlfriend is supposed to see her keannu reeves on the street and is supposed to act like some pure virgin? you wonder why people reject this retarded ideology en masse. this is why.

all this anti-sex shit lumps together things that are totally different as the same level of bad;
-the feeling of lust (which is uncontrollable and natural and there from fucking biology)
-masturbation (healthy and normal)
-thinking about fucking someone (thought crime?)
-actually cheating (morally reprehensible)

All the supes (except Starlight) are dishonest Christian Republicans.

who’s doing that in 2019 lol? Churches have been dying left and right in the US for decades. It comes off like something that was written 20 years ago because it was.

Loved the first four episodes, but it fell off second half. Please second season more killing superheros and less with everything else.

My point is that empathy was not created by the Bible and neither was morality. That shouldn't even be a point that has to be said. But honestly multiple people are responding to me so I've sort of lost track of who is who at this point.

it was more akin to 'they arent like me/ sons of god/ redeemable' etc

also later christians were at the vanguard of anti-slavery thinking (which I'm not sure is a good thing on their part)

>I mean vegans are anti-human

Bingo.

I have literally NEVER met a vegan/vegetarian who was pro-life.

You're not supposed to be castrated, but you're supposed to be familiar with self control and chastity. You wouldnt like your wife having the thoughts you wanna have freely, you know very well why you're so defensive

>you sound like a deranged cuckold lunatic.

You sound like you're overweight and wear cargo shorts.

>there's nothing to negate, you haven't made a point at all, you've argued from your own misunderstanding and pretended it's authoritative
Just like you pretend the Bible is an authority on basic human emotions
>that is literally more loathsome than just coming out and admitting you want to do violate christian morality just because it feels good.
What? I don't even. Again "Christian morals" are just basic human emotions and common sense.

He didn't say committing adultery in your heart is as bad as doing it for real, just that the heart is where the sin comes from, and men have to constantly check themselves to prevent a descent into degeneracy.

no christian anywhere believes "the bible" was the sole source of morality, they believe god is the source of morality, and they also believe morality is a commandment given to you contrary to your instinctual fallen nature, rather than a social more that you're just kinda sorta expected to adhere to most of the time but its no big deal if you dont. christianity is the hard and narrow path and it's not supposed to be easy. doubt is understandable and sin is inevitable, if it wasnt then jesus wouldn't have had to die. perfection is the end of christianity, not the means.
the most despicable thing you can do is not to sin, but to try and have it both ways. sin can be forgiven, but sin that denies it is sin is loathsome.

uh. Listen, user. Dunno what your conversation is about cause I’m too lazy to read but it was kind of a big deal at the time lol. He he got executed for what he was preaching. And then Christianity went from being a minor judaic cult to being the dominant religion throughout the Roman Empire for thousands of years.

based homelander

You've read like 5 issues of the comic then

They didnt even portray them honestly. Every show that makes fun of Christians/Christianity always feels like a fever dream, or everyone feels helplessly stupid or brainwashed
>inb4 they are stupid and brainwashed
Haha very funny I get it, in reality they just attack a strawman of christianity, and what better way than to make the christians some kind of sheeple that are less than human who have no thoughts themselves.

>"Christian morals" are just basic human emotions and common sense.
do you know any other religion? any classical thinking?

just reading the most basic thing about nordic paganism morals already tell a entirely different thing

There's no fag acceptance in the comics.

there's no "basic human emotion" underlying the concept of grace. your intangible, indestructible spiritual security has no secular equivalent. accepting that grace and being worthy of it is inherent to christian practice.

>history is good guys vs bad guys and the good guys always win

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>my wife or girlfriend is supposed to see her keannu reeves on the street and is supposed to act like some pure virgin
that's what we call self-control, yes

it's one of the masculine virtues. so I can see why you've lost touch with it

as someone who actually read Crichton's novel, that implication is correct

not him but there is that entire arc about nighwing being homophobic and the boys are investing a possible 'hate crime'

ennis is liberal plenty. He still treats a right winger like butcher as human overall and has some nuance, but he was always Le Edgy 90s atheist

Just finished Season 1 and I can't think of a reason to hate Homelander. He actually did nothing wrong.

Look at a vegan and tell me it has a soul.

this site has been infested with /r/The_Donald boomer migrants since 2016

Thank you for a reply that wasn't extremely butthurt, user. However are you sure about there being no Christians that believe that? Plenty of them love to call people out for lack of morals just because they're not religious. I'm not saying Christianity is bad or anything. I just don't think it's propaganda to portray some nutters being nutters when it's not like they were implying every religion is bad.
>do you know any other religion? any classical thinking?
What are you even talking about, man? Is this an actual question? Even the most violent and evil of pagans still had family they cared about and expected them to not treat them like shit and vice versa.

>converts from Judaism

>"Haha I'm totally a Christian fellow Christians. I just fucking hate you all and will help Muslims rape and pillage your lands though."

You realize not every female character has to be a sex doll incel? Plus she's suppose to be an ugly bitch. If she played Starlight you can complain

It was written at a time when established politics was filled with conservative Christians being charlatans and getting caught having gay sex in public restrooms. It really doesn’t translate into the current year well where being against gay marriage is akin to social suicide.

I know this is a dumb Yea Forums thread moving really fast but I think it's worth me chiming in that a television show or comic that depicts the vice of hyper sexuality, and constantly correlates it with violence is VERY christian in origin. Every sex scene with the supes is tinged by domination and violence. This is a very ancient and very conservative idea that many contemporary left wingers dislike.

I believe Ennis' morality is governed more by his christian upbringing than he realises. I also remember there being a lot of homophobia in the comic, if that's worth anything

you wouldn't be a white supremacist if you disliked niggers. chinks aren't white supremacists for disliking niggers. you can get along fine treating people as individuals despite thinking they're part of the chink or nigger groups. this is how all groups interact with each other since forever.

that fucking show is awesome
I didn't really read the comics going to get them after finishing season one but i really like the show

They kind of did a nod to that with that Oklahoma senator

>still had family
thats a key word there, isnt it? "family" - and a woman still wouldnt be extended any thinking like 'treat them as you'd like to be treated'

Even Baldur, the favorite prince of the gods was going to Hel because he didnt act according to the ethos of supremacy/ lording over others (he died a shitty death instead of in battle trying to overtake someone)

Cope. He's a devout ordained minister

We are waking up. Your circle of atheists losers will get smaller and smaller. Hell I was on of them 3 years ago.

The show just made me miss Banshee. Anthony Starr is a fucking amazing actor and should do something more interesting than deconstructing capeshit.
He'd be a great Bond villain - a modern equivalent of Trevelan (sp?)

>So basically they showed what actual christians believe
I like how all various sects of christian are lumped together like niggers chinks street shitters or goat fuckers. the irony of it all that people who would condemn you for race realism do the same thing but in other ways. gives me a chuckle every time.

copes for dopes

I’m from N.I. and it’s not the religious part that caused the strife so much as the civil rights infringements

Sorry that your mom made you go to church on Sunday, user. you really suffered.

Sure, a ton of atheists/agnostics/whatever they want to call themselves instead of "atheist" because "atheist" is an unenlightened term and they're too unironically euphoric to call themselves that were raised religious and live their lives in general adherence with the precepts they condemn as retarded, seemingly without realizing that that's what they're doing.

This is most conspicuous in atheistic jews. You'll rarely find more virulently anti-religious people. But they still retain their religious upbringing's morals and ethics and nepotism and instill those values into their kids.
Even as they sometimes preach sexual degeneracy and race-mixing and whatever else in public, they ACT completely opposite to that in their private lives.

look here's the deal, it's semantic fuckery at the end of the day. when we talk about "morality" we talk about being nice. you can be exceptionally nice and not be a christian, no one doubts that for a second. it's only that in christian practice, being nice is not enough to get into heaven. you still have to pay your union dues.
and yes, there are absolutely bad and hypocritical christians out there. according to the bible they literally make jesus sick. the bible straight up says deadbeat dads are worse than atheists, unequivocally, no questions asked.
so when you see one of these broken churches caught up in specific political bullshit, why take them as the endall authority on how the faith operates? you know they're getting it wrong. and hey guess what, those humanistic universalist readings are wrong too, just in the exact opposite direction. you need to go find out for yourself. that's why god gave you free will.

I love people who hate Christianity and Christians and have never been to church a day in their lives, tell me about my religion.

>*vegan coping sounds*

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Imagine posting this and thinking you btfo'd anybody

Fellow villagers? Tribesmen? Etc? You just sound like you want to believe mankind is inherently evil and thus the only way for them to be saved is through religion. Personally, I'm Atheist (big shock!) but I think religion is a good thing and it brings people together.

hate to burst that bubble but you're wrong in the grand scheme of things. don't get me wrong i would probably parrot the same talking point if i was in high school or something.which reminds me i think school starts back up soon.

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When Constantinople fell the gates that were breached were where all the (((merchants))) lived

He is actually right. You're too stupid to realize it, but to expound on what he is saying, live the lifestyle of a faggot vegan and you will lose your soul.

Show me a christian religions that says being gay is ok and that muslims and other religions will not burn in hell. Ill wait you brainwashed sheep

don't worry

atheists are fucking stupid too

>so when you see one of these broken churches caught up in specific political bullshit, why take them as the endall authority on how the faith operates?
They show didn't do that. You're assuming they are doing that. Get what I'm saying? Well hell, maybe they are but this is one of many examples where people get defensive over nothing and assume they are personally being attacked.

I'm sure some fagberg you fap to on Twitter had all the answers about religion

The irony is palpable, user.

Atheists are pretty retarded these days. They are far left sjw liberals.

it wasnt evil in the context of survival. Yes they still had morals that tried to keep antisocial behaviours at bay ("don't fuck your tribesman/ clan/ family") but precisely because they knew the 'evil' inside them, ie "he's not you, kill him and take his stuff"

reminds me of this
medicalhypotheses.blogspot.com/2009/11/clever-sillies-why-high-iq-lack-common.html

the issue is the entertainment industry isnt going to draw a line between evangelical christianity and even the liberal forms of christianity, in the end they hate all of it and theyre going to come for all of it. christians will police their own bad actors but theyre not going to do it in front of the bigger enemy.
doubt is not a sin, and not all so called christians are what they claim to be, but that doesnt mean we're going to go shake hands with people who move in lies.

Literally the nicest people on the planet. But I'm sure anything to the right of sticky an avatar dildo up your ass is fucked up

>its not anti christian you fucking retard. it's anti-church

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>when it's not like they were implying every religion is bad

No just the Christian one

Survival is the only context. Even just on pure logic, an entity that doesn't prioritize survival will always lose out to one that does. Things that are necessary for survival, then, cannot be evil, unless survival is evil, in which case everyone is evil.

This is where you try to sell me your particular religion's flavour of absolution for my inherent sin.

>"he's not you, kill him and take his stuff"
This is not how every human operated, user. I don't really know what else to say. Christianity did not invent being good to others.
While I'm sure this is plenty true in many cases it's still blatant fear mongering. So now we're at the point where one show can't say something without being lumped in with the industry as a whole.
>show portrays some bad Christians
>THEY HAVE to be trying to say all Christians are bad! They're all the same!
Sounds pretty hypocritical.

He could absolutely have saved the plane. Whether he’s obligated to is another matter and whether it’s “wrong” not to can be debated. But it was an outright lie to state otherwise

>mankind isn't inherently evil

Would you say that the converse is true? That evil isn't inherent to mankind?

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i dont what you're arguing or who you think you're arguing against

I'm describing basic pagan ethno-chauvinist shit before christianity (be it nordic shit or judaism) - and to some extent christianity itself in certain moments

>>show portrays some bad Christians
>>THEY HAVE to be trying to say all Christians are bad! They're all the same!
>Sounds pretty hypocritical.
give ten examples of shows on these 'not-christianity-hating platforms' doing the opposite

t. redditor

What's wrong with wanting your team to win?

Evil only exists in things that can actually understand evil. Otherwise it's just nature.
Nah I'm good. Believe what you want.

Just finished the first season. So is it confirmed that Butcher gets cucked instead of just having his wife raped? Are women really this whorish? asking for a friend.

>nice doctrine

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I don't think I've run across that link before. Interesting and saved. Thanks.

>it only is evil if it understands evil

What about a pedophile, then? What if he believes what he does is out of love?

Thanks for the image mr. Ant

It didn't feel anti-Christian to me
It felt anti-hypocrisy, e.g. if you're a giant faggot in secret then you shouldn't be preaching about how faggots go to hell
And I usually roll my eyes when le ebin stand up comedians make fun of Christianity, but The Boys didn't even make me blink

A pedophile or a child molester? Is being a pedophile inherently evil? I don't think so. It's wrong but it sure isn't evil to just have an attraction to something.

>Suddenly Yea Forums of all places is full of christfags
>inb4 redditor fedora
>inb4 jew

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>Is being a pedophile inherently evil? I don't think so.

If you spoke to my children I would kill you. This is not ironic or a joke. Behold the fruits of liberal atheism, everyone.

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It could go either way but I don't doubt they might cuck him. The show already changed things to make the women seem more sympathetic. Maeve is basically a 180 departure and isn't a total whore or asshole (yet if at all). Mothers Milk his wife is a crack whore basically. She's a strong single black woman. Alot of these changes are par for the course in this day and age though so not a huge deal. Expected really.

I don’t really get what you’re saying here. The show is pretty clearly mocking evangelical Christians. Many people enter into religion as a way to cope with tragedies in their life or to find order, structure, and meaning outside of themselves. Many more grow up in it and it becomes central to their lives and communities.

There’s been a lot of talk about empathy in this thread, but is it understandable why someone would not enjoy being mocked?

Because I said mental illness isn't evil? What bothers you so much about that?

Lots of denominations show a disapproval of homosexuality but don't believe gays should be hated and bullied for it. Lots of them don't even believe in eternal hellfire as punishment.

Why are atheists so desperate to prove that they have morals? Do they realize how pathetic they look?

That's just common sense though. Pedo family or not endangering my offspring it's only natural to end that threat.

Don't you love it when sinners think Christianity = "sex is bad"

hint: God gave you your sex drive too, the problem is you masturbate 10 times a day instead of getting a wife and being a responsible adult
Oh wait I'm retarded, I'm on Yea Forums

Yea Forums is counter cultural.

Because you're a pedophile. There's no anger at all in this post either. If you came anywhere near my kids I would beat your head open on the concrete and so would literally billions of other parents. You're so lost in abstractions and technicalities you can't even see the wrong in desires to defile innocent children.

Only one

Christianity is dying and will soon be in a grave and the world will be a better place after it is gone

>shilling for the literal president of the united states
>counter culture

lmao

>Because you're a pedophile
No I'm not. I just understand that pedophiles didn't pick to be attracted to children so I can't really say that they are inherently evil. Don't be retarded, user. Being a pedophile and actually molesting children are two very different things and to pretend otherwise is just your natural reflex over somethings that you can't control.

Considering whites whom are religious have more children than anyone else (USA). I think the dum dums parrot the sex is bad meme due to how it's been portrayed in their indoctrination. Sex wise it's mostly frowned upon for adultery and pre-marital. That doesn't mean you wouldn't fuck like bunnies once married.

what does the president have to do with the decline of christianity in America?

>Christianity is dying and will soon be in a grave and the world will be a better place after it is gone
Incorrect as atheists or state worshippers are being outbred. The only reason as an example in the USA that whites are exploding in population is due to open borders. It's pretty easy to miss the actual statistics when they let in hordes of shitskins of which there are many. Niggers have been stagnant population-wise since they were imported. Natives are almost extinct thankfully.

You can jump through all the mental hoops you want but there's no way to justify a desire to fuck children as anything other than evil. And if you are something you didn't choose to be something, it's "inherent" is it not?

Went to a festival like the show had once and one of the speakers had a “sex is good” talk.

Was pretty entertaining.

>You can jump through all the mental hoops you want but there's no way to justify a desire to fuck children as anything other than evil
Yes I can. Having a fucked up brain and being mentally ill. That's not evil. Indulging in it or pretending it's okay is evil, though.

this is exactly why christianity is a disease. look how this person thinks.

any survey of the world or usa shows its decline though, thankfully

It's unquestionably evil and it's pointless to try to convince yourself otherwise. Have fun having skinheads and niggers take turns beating you to death in the shower when you get caught.

>get raped as a young child
>your brain gets fucked up and turns you into a degenerate
>grow up and want to have sexual relations with children because you yourself were molested and now brain no work right
>this is somehow evil
It's fucked up, sure. But it ain't evil. If you could pick pedophile as a minor like your were rolling a Morrowind character then it would be evil as you are actively choosing it.
Why can't you just accept that some people are mentally ill and that doesn't make them evil? They need help not hate, user.

The tumor must cut out and the wound cauterized. Sorry, tumor. Try to hold still.

Yeah good luck getting rid of mental illness, bud. Pedophiles will always exists. Just like fags. That's the world we live in and nothing you can do will ever change it, sadly.