It's completely misunderstood kino, right? The critics got it wrong?
It's completely misunderstood kino, right? The critics got it wrong?
Ian Brown
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Matthew Torres
It's outstanding, it's the western EoE.
Jose Scott
It came out at the wrong time. It was about a year after Twin Peaks was over and so the show was mostly forgotten/poorly remembered by critics and audiences.
People also thought its more surreal/metaphysical elements were inappropriate and out of place.
Landon Carter
>People also thought its more surreal/metaphysical elements were inappropriate and out of place.
>I went to see a Twin Peaks movie and it didn't take place in the real world, what a piece of shit!!!
Critics really are brainlets aren't they?
Eli Allen
This. I genuinely believe the film was reviewed poorly because it works poorly when detached from its source material. It really does not stand on its own well. But if you actually like the show and want more of it, it's great.
Cooper Ward
Considering how the film deals with abuse and stuff they thought it was in poor taste. I think that's wrong, myself, but I can see how that can come to someone.
Hudson Ward
I was abused as a kid and I feel like the mystical elements are honestly a good means of softening the movie for audiences who haven't experienced abuse IRL or don't understand how dark that shit can get, if that makes sense? Some of the more overt Leland/Laura abuse stuff is horrific, and IMO BOB actually softens it. The stuff that's BOB/Laura is way softer and way less horrific IMO.
Samuel Williams
>dad do you remember a show called “twin peaks”
>ya a lot of women were into it ?
What did my father mean by this?
Xavier Hughes
It's not about that, Twin peaks had some place for the grim and surreal but the series was also know for being comfy and campy, also goodness was shining through all the shitty things that happened. FWWM was the darkest entry in the series, plenty of scenes were just uncomfortable to watch and the surreal elements left some people dumbfounded instead of being a cool. atmospheric story device like they were before. Also I wasn't around when the OG run aired, but I guess that people wanted some answers and resolutions after s2 finale and they got nothing.
Personally, the movie was very different from the show but it was very good in it's own way, the only thing I'd change would be to separate the convenience store/jeffries scenes, some people like it the way it is, but the scenes being superimposed just makes me dizzy in a bad way.
Jonathan Brooks
Yeah, I think that was the problem for some critics. Like when you start having vomited cream corn in the middle of incest-rape and stuff like that it just does not feel right, it almost feels like you're making fun of it.
I disagree, I do legitimately think that the point of the surrealist stuff is that it helps add subjectivity to Laura's experience. I'd imagine that sort of abuse is surreal. That it does make the world around you just not feel like it makes sense.
Justin Baker
Your father meant that Dale Cooper is a fucking chad that pulled all the bitches.
Jaxson Davis
>Filmmaker Quentin Tarantino, who was also in attendance, said in a 1992 interview, "After I saw Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me at Cannes, David Lynch had disappeared so far up his own ass that I have no desire to see another David Lynch movie until I hear something different. And you know, I loved him. I loved him."[22]
Christopher Flores
>dude lynch is a misunderstood genius dude weed dude twin peaks is so weird XD
Anthony Brown
>In a way, what Tarantino has done with the French New Wave and with David Lynch is what Pat Boone did with rhythm and blues: He's found (ingeniously) a way to take what is ragged and distinctive and menacing about their work and homogenize it, churn it until it's smooth and cool and hygienic enough for mass consumption. Reservoir Dogs, for example, with its comically banal lunch chatter, creepily otiose code names, and intrusive soundtrack of campy pop from decades past, is a Lynch movie made commercial, i.e., fast, linear, and with what was idiosyncratically surreal now made fashionably (i.e., "hiply") surreal [...] D. Lynch is an exponentially better filmmaker than Q. Tarantino. For, unlike Tarantino, D. Lynch knows that an act of violence in an American film has, through repetition and desensitization, lost the ability to refer to anything but itself. A better way to put what I just tried to say: Quentin Tarantino is interested in watching somebody's ear getting cut off; David Lynch is interested in the ear.
Wyatt Hernandez
>based Lynch pleb filtered Tarantino
Carter Thompson
It's an absolute masterpiece. This movie alone is enough to make David Lynch one of the greatest directors of all time.
Tarantula has shit taste. It's also incredible how he manages to describe his own path as a filmmaker so well right there. Peak irony.
How about an actually great filmmaker's opinion instead, here's Jacques Rivette:
>Twin Peaks, the Film is the craziest film in the history of cinema. I have no idea what happened, I have no idea what I saw, all I know is that I left the theater floating six feet above the ground.
Luis Gutierrez
Not Lynch's finest hour but still Kino, critics treated it as if it were just a normal mystery/thriller and obviously got bamboozled.
Grayson Parker
>the series was also know for being comfy and campy,
Thats why the first act is Chet Desmond and Deer Meadows.
Robert Roberts
People here only like it cause it had poor reviews when it came out so they're being contrarian faggots. Its good but its nothing special.
Jaxson Price
>Not Lynch's finest hour
It is, actually.
Why do you keep posting that image, do you really think it's funny?
John Bell
>critics/audiences can't remember a show that aired last year
Zachary Gutierrez
Having just marathonned all of Twin Peaks and the movie it's definitely a combination of: people stopped caring about TP, people going in expecting it to be like the show and not a traditional Lynch piece, and overall annoyance about it not clearing up the ending.
This definitely would have been better received far better had it come out a bit later after the show, or even during. Like Lynch has said, solving Laura's murder ruined the show and should never have been done.
Evan Nguyen
>It is, actually
t. Lynchlet who has only seen Mullholland Drive
True Patricians recognize Dune as the pinnacle of auteur cinema.
Charles Morales
>Like Lynch has said, solving Laura's murder ruined the show and should never have been done.
Yeah, but like a lot of "fuckups" with Lynch(most obvious example being BOB), it set in motion things that had really wonderful results we might otherwise not have had, starting from the killer reveal itself which was an amazing episode and scene, to FWWM, to The Return.
Everything that happened should've happened, because what we got is the result of it.
Jackson Rogers
Shitposting aside, I've seen everything, my favorites are FWWM, Inland Empire and S3. I don't know what it is about MD that makes it seemingly overall the most accessible, to critics and "cinephiles", but I think it's far from his best work
Easton Gutierrez
The last episodes of Twin Peaks were aired several months after the rest of the second season. The show sank to being like the 85th most watched programs of like 89 on at the time. People were basically through with Lynch by the time the premier of the second season came around and after the long sequence with the bellhop and the giant, people basically felt that Lynch and Frost were fucking with them and that they weren't going to reveal the mystery. When they actually revealed the mystery, people still weren't happy, and the show basically became irrelevant after that.
Even ignoring the fact that the show sank to near-obscurity in people actually watching it, points out that what stuck with many people about Twin Peaks was stuff like coffee cherry pie XD and then some of the murder mystery, but not really the full implications of it. Lynch turned the camera and put it on what was suggested but either glossed over or deliberately avoided in the show. Laura goes from being the object of the show to being the subject of the film.
Zachary Hill
Hollywood critics love movies about Hollywood.
Brandon Rogers
TL;DR audiences are retarded fad-surfers and that includes the critics. It's almost a miracle Lynch is so well respected now, and he's probably not going to lose his "legendary artist" status at this point, but it's all just fashion for the vast majority of so called fans
Aiden Price
Yeah Dune memes excused, to be honest Twin Peaks (can't pick between original or Return) is my favourite Lynch work, but its followed closely by Blue Velvet and Inland empire.
Hot take: I think Lynch could have picked a better actress than Naomi Watts to uplift, she's okay but nowhere near as good as someone like Kyle Maclachlan.
Austin Nguyen
>overall annoyance about it not clearing up the ending.
>expecting a prequel to clear up an ending
>This definitely would have been better received far better had it come out a bit later after the show, or even during.
Eh, I dunno. The movie is about why Laura and Leland did what they did. It would have spoiled things if it aired during (where they deliberately avoided answering these questions and even spelled it out) and if it aired much later people would even have a harder time knowing what was going on. Remember, this was before DVD box set releases. Even after watching the series and the movie back to back I had difficulty remembering all the call-backs to stuff from season one because Laura's murder had become completely irrelevant halfway through season two.
Jace Diaz
>can't pick
They amplify eachother pleb.
Jose Roberts
Love that essay and hits the nail on the head re Tarantino
Jace Lewis
>I think Lynch could have picked a better actress than Naomi Watts to uplift
Like when casting for MD? Maybe, but she was good in the role, so whatever, and she's by no means a bad actress, and seems like a nice person.
I agree that Kyle is great. No homo, but The Return made me pretty much fall in love with him, he was that good. Especially as DougieCoop. Incredibly moving performance.
He does amazing work with his eyes and face. There's so much underappreciated subtlety in his performance(s). Lynch was right when he said "Kyle is a magician" BTS during shooting. He was genuinely capital g Great in S3. It's a travesty that he didn't get more awards and recognition for his performance.
Justin Campbell
You're right, Hollywood loves sucking itself off in the weirdest ways, but I have a hard time believing that it's the overarching theme that makes it so beloved
Ryder Gomez
Oh, you mean it's the lesbian sex scenes?
Carter Perry
Yeah, I'm sure the lesbian stuff has a lot to do with it, actually
Jacob Flores
Twin Peaks The Return is the western EoE
Benjamin Walker
EoE? Like, East of Eden?
Owen Russell
End of Evangelion you dunce
Camden Sullivan
That's an insult to Twin Peaks. Please crawl back to Yea Forums
Kayden Gutierrez
people expected a conclusion to the series and got lynched instead.
David Parker
AYUDAME
AYUDAME
AYUDAME
Austin Cooper
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Angel Lopez
Yes the Passion of the Christ should have maintained its impact while not showing any icky torture or crucifixion. Then when Laura, I mean Jesus, accomplishes the big thing it will be felt the same way.
Landon Myers
You need to have it both ways. Jumping Man pulls a Max Headroom when Jeffries speaks if Judy. Blocks vital information from the audience, you see. From everyone.
Jayden Reed
No Tarantino fan is going to read that, Jumping Man will show up in a cloud of static and horse them
Josiah Martin
I like that it shows a calculated reality fuckover by space Jews who fuck a movie and a reality for their own space Jew reasons. Just like the film got fucked with.
Charles Thompson
The tennis ball boom mic in the casino door reflection is the true form of Judy
Wyatt Reyes
Apt comparison as it came out in Japan first
Brody Robinson
Ronnie Rocket don't need no midget, needs a detective and a blond and a Judy. And a final showdown. And hours of dead cool shit.
Nolan Watson
no, it's the symbolic representation of the LYNCHED
Gavin Clark
It's kino. Possibly the best Lynch movie, and one of my all time favorites.
Brayden Gutierrez
>Bowie's in the film for all of five minutes but gets top billing on the poster
Total Chad move.
Luis Lee
same
Christopher Green
Didnt Lynch do a Tarantino nod near the end of The Return? I remember some satire
Hunter Hill
He did cast Tom Roth and Jennifer Jason Leigh after they stared together in Hateful Eight, but if I remember well Tim Roth said, in The Return behind the scenes interview, that Lynch didn't know that they worked together before.
Also Lynch said himself that he is not a cinephile and doesn't watch a lot of movies, so I doubt he would bother with that.
Mason Collins
I now remember he spoofed a Tarantino style movie in S3, there were recurring characters in a car following Cooper/Dougie (?) talking like characters from his movies, eating fastfood and talking about murdering him.
Jacob Perez
Oh wait so that were actually Tim Roth and Jennifer. I really don't believe Lynch when he said it was a coincidence
Hudson Ross
I think it was more that it felt a lot darker then the show was and generally didn't use a lot of time for the lighter aspects of the show. Also the first half hour likely confused people who didn't care about the lore and saw the film as psud drivel.
Adam Ross
>Also the first half hour likely confused people who didn't care about the lore and saw the film as psud drivel.
Would have gone over better if MacLachlan didn't tell Lynch to write him out of those scenes because he didn't want to forever be known as the FBI autist.
Jeremiah Collins
Which was a bad career move as its still his best known role.
Sebastian Jones
>supposed to feel bad for a drug addict, cheating roastie whore because uhh she got molested
reminder that lynch is a leftist, promotes whoredom and lgbt (mullholand drive) in his movies and defends known pedos like polansky
Oliver Taylor
That's what I thought, and it makes no sense.
I haven't seen any of the Evangelion series either, I hate the manga/anime aesthetic on the whole.
Grayson Carter
Bob made her that way. She wouldn't have turned out like that if he didn't start banging her when she was 12.
Leo Anderson
Bros i want to see the deleted scenes from eraserhead so bad
Kayden Cruz
Don't waste your time friend.
James Jones
she never complained about the bad man coming over to touch her in bad places, not even her parents. the whore clearly enjoyed it. i mean look at the """rape"""" scene, she was moaning like a cow in the act.
Austin Diaz
A lot of kids wouldn't say no to drugs or alcohol but that's still contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Leland also may have ended up good had Bob not got to him. Corrupting people is what he does.
Owen Lee
I want to see the deleted scenes from fucking S3
Nathan Garcia
Its a masterpiece, yes.
Luke White
Even if you don’t enjoy anime, Eva/EoE is worth watching as it deviates heavily from moe anime. EoE is easily one of the best surrealist films, and it’s ending has a bittersweet conclusion that is done masterfully. Ambiguous and beautiful, the end of the end of evangelion made me appreciate people, even if a majority are cattle.
Charles Torres
Cheers I might give it a look then.
I like a lot of Miyazaki Ghibli stuff and I'm old enough to have seen Akira at the theatre...was based af on the big screen, especially the beginning atomic explosion and the Tetsuo transformation/battle scenes in the stadium, absolutely mindblowing