Complete Joker Script

Some mad lad uploaded the whole script to reddit. Enjoy.
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>Dont post reddit links here
Made an exception for this. Pretty big.

fake
PROVE ITS AUTENTICITY

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It matches up with all the previous page leaks. It is legit.

>JOKER
>I know. The Americans are really
giving it to the Japs.

KEK

Why not? The url is the only thing that differs from this place.

I don't know why, but I laughed so hard when I read that part.

Pathetic attempt by Disney moms

What?

So this is what DCucks seriously think can compete with The Irishman and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

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Yes it can.

Based OP making DCucks seethe

this

wow, this is insane

>"The Irishman and Tarantula latest are keeno"
hola reddit

I cant believe jim carry is fucking dead...

So, is it actually just The King Of Comedy: Gotham Edition?

>script calling the character Joker in all descriptive passages, even before he turns into the Joker
Sounds fake. They would probably call him Arthur.

No, this is true. Leaked pages that everybody posted here are in this script

the leaks come from the same script so if the script is fake then all the leaks are fake

ama from test screenings prove that this is true also

What kind of person spends weeks to write a 120 page fake script just to fool what, maybe 100 people at best? I don't get it. Who would put so much effort into something that will have such a little payoff?

I read some if it, and it seems generally awful.

Im reading the script and wtf why Yea Forums was lying to me all this time? Joker actually likes Thomas Wayne and thinks that he is a hero

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A Gamer

someone who hides behind a mask

bump

The Joker starts a riot which results in Bruce Wayne's parents death.

Anyone have the “many saints of Newark “ script?

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>Joker: Yeah, I was wondering if you could ask the doctor to increase the dosage on my medications? Nothing seems to make a difference.
>Joker: I just don't want to feel so bad anymore
Okay, this is gonna be kino for all the wrong reasons.

So this joker is an incel of a cuck? Dear I say...the cucker?
Because a gamer isnt.

>Joker shoots wall street bullies while Send in the clowns plays
Absolute kino.

He later says he despises him.

Anyone who has already read it in full to tell us if all scenes from the trailer appear in it? I searched for "fingers" in the PDF and the scenes when he puts his fingers in his mouth does appear.

ouch

clown world

>the comedy club scene
>the talk show segment that follows
Unironic kino

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So Arthur actually has a condition that makes him laugh involuntarily

/ourguy/

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It’s in there. He's looking at his scars in a mirror

Based and unfortuneatly redpilled

How similar is it to King of Comedy?

There’s literally a scene where he walks in on his oneitis getting fucked by chad

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based

what the fuck lads I feel sorry for my boy joker

He gets the good ending.
>replace system with society

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that's the point retard

Depressed Kino incoming.

What did the orange cat represent?

kino

guys I might go to the kinoplex first time in 10 years for this

I actually might give this one a miss, it seems sad, I don't like feeling negative emotions in public.

this script is awful, hope it's fake

I don’t think it’s that bad. I think a lively character like the joker will do it well

That was improv. In the script Bruce touches Arthur's face.

it's blatant misery porn without any sense of irony or subtlety

alot of "beats" happen

Of course it's fake

The real script is much worse

Garfield

>Orange cat
>Called “her” in script
>Orange cats are always male
It represented Joker’s misassigned gender.

I took it as a black comedy, similar to something like american psycho tonally.

What did the writer mean by this? lmao.

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That's not the tone I get from the trailer, but maybe

It is similar in tone to Taxi Driver. If you liked that, you will like this.

I get that just from the sperg main character

Taxi Driver didn't victimize it's protagonist like this script does, it's completely over the top in trying to make you feel sorry for Joker

this screenplay reads like fan fiction
todd phillips is nowhere near enough of a talented filmmaker to turn this pile of shit into a decent film

NI-

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Arthur is a more pathetic character than Travis so it is only natural for him to be abused more.

I dont understand why Joaquin said that he liked the script and basically why did he agree to play

>>Orange cats are always male
...Wut?

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It's the king of comedy not taxi driver

GGUHHHHHHHH

Because it is good and allows for him to give a great performance with his own flair added to it.

it's a mixture of both from reading this script

There are elements from both, but the plot is not a direct rip off of either like many feared it would.

Yeah. don't post reddit links here they make tourists like too depressed and remind them of being attacked during Gamergate and the_donald purges.

It actually feels like a self-pitying incel with a victim complex wrote that, I hope it's not the real script

the types of people who browse websites like reddit and 4channel

He must have been reading a different script then because this one is pure cringe

How is it cringe? Have you ever read the script for Taxi Driver? This reads very similar to that script.

>it is good
>the whole script is just everyone mock and abuse arthur untill he finally snaps
SJW critics will trash the fuck out of this movie. 27% RT guaranteed

seeth harder dccuck, you can't even get the Scorsese movie joker tries to rip off right

Highly doubt that. If the movie was that bad, it would not be allowed at Venice or TIFF.

>This reads very similar to that script.
It really isn't other than both of the protagonists being mentally disturbed

I can't stop reading this thing. My only concern is this turns out to be fake and I read 121 pages of larping.

>HOSPITAL DOCTOR: Have you written about your episode? About what happened?
>JOKER: How I remember it.
>HOSPITAL DOCTOR : Can I see?
>Joker slides his journal across to her. She picks it up and flips through the pages--
>ANGLE ON JOURNAL, blank page after blank page, there's nothing inside of it.
>The doctor looks up at him confused.
>ANGLE ON JOKER, a smile creeping across his face.

MOM'S

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That ending with That's Life is pure kino.

>this turns out to be fake and I read 121 pages of larping.
Surprise!

it literally doesn't

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Mr Right (the Max Landis trash film) closed oud TIFF

"If I were you, I'd walk away from this table before I strangle all three of you with that fucking stethoscope hanging from your neck."

Try going past the first few pages

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>Sophie: Hey Arthur, wanna meet my friends?
>Joker: Sorry Sweetheart, but you're the only nigger I like. Those other savages? You know they make up like 13% feet the population and commit 50% of the crime, right?
Kind of risky for a super villain movie.

You're a fucking retard if you think Taxi Driver is anything like this script

Pure kino.

>cringe, edgy, try hard script reads just like taxi driver because both characters commit and act of violence

This film is going to send the "cringelord hot topic joker" and "incel gamer joker" memes into overload, even more than Skwad. It's going to be amazing.

KI NO

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This sounds pretty "cringe and edgy" when you read it out of the movie too.

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>first line is "is it just me or is it CRAZIER out there?"
There's no way in hell this is real

That line is in the trailer. This script is real.

This reads so pretentious it must be real.

How is it pretentious?

How is this even possible? How can they allow this to leak? Whose head will roll for this?

why? does it trigger you?

The edge in Taxi Driver is just Travis' paranoid delusions, in Joker it's actually the entire film, everyone is an evil asshole trying to abuse him

AND IF THERE'S NOTHING SWINGING COME THIS HERE JULY

I'M GONNA ROLL MYSELF-
IN A BIG BALL-
AAAAND DIIIIIIIIIE
MYYYYYYY MY

Some suicide kino incoming. Why is this so depressing? Are they trying to raise the suicide rate among capeshit lovers?

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more sad = more drama = more good reviews by crybabies

you are either willfully ignorant or just plain stupid if you equate this specific character moment and the moody, poetic writing of paul schrader with the teenage angst-filled message board post in the fan fiction section that is the script for joker
the entire premise of this screenplay is a superhero movie acting like a serious film the same way a little girl is acting like a grown up when she steals her mom's make up and clothes

Oh fuck you're right. Oh well, it's just a script so it's hard to tell but I wasn't really into the story while reading it. But depending on Phoenix's performance it could turn out decent and somewhat refreshing

You can't be serious lmao

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Actually this. I hope Joaquin will help to reduce edginess with good performance tho

That and the inherently lesser fags who post on that shit hole.

Fuck, it's the same we have seen a month ago but extended. Holy shit, this is real.

holy shit this is so bad
this movie is going to get panned criticaly and incel edgelords are going to be ASSMAD about it lmao

has to be fake

it uses a mental illness and bursts of violence as a substitute for actual depth
for how much it is criticizing the society and the system that created joker, it's actually not saying anything of worth or value about it; wall street bad, politicians corrupt, rich people greedy etc.

If this script is real it's going to cause a lot of murders. Not kidding.

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Not really. Sophie is quite nice to him and treats him with respect until he goes into her apartment and calls her a whore at the park. Thomas Wayne isn't evil. He just doesn't want to put up with Arthur's mom's bullshit. He hits Arthur because he came to his house, talked to Bruce, and tried to murder Alfred. Murray was just doing his job and trying to find some comedic material. The only people that are really trying to abuse Arthur are those kids that steal his sign, the Wall Street guys, and his mom.

Is it just american psycho then?

C O P E

truly /ourmovie/

>Sophie is quite nice to him and treats him with respect until he goes into her apartment and calls her a whore at the park.
She's a black single mother who friendzones him

Why based Joaquin did this to us? How they convinced him to do it?? Did they blackmailed him or what?

>times you acted like the joker
>be todd phillips
>shoot this script and submit the film to the venice film festival

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This makes sense though. There is always an element of scarification in Joker origin stories whether by his hands or others.

She never even hints at being romantically interested in him. It is obvious that all of her actions are done out of pity. If you think she was leading him on you are as delusional as Arthur.

>times you acted like the joker
>be Venice film fest director
>took Todd Phillips film into competition

imagine actually trying to defend this abhorrent script

Reddit has a stupid complex interface, Yea Forums has a comfy and simple interface

>reddit hard! it's too complex for me

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Most women would treat someone like Joker with derision, and because the Joker (and this poster) doesn't understand rare feminine kindness (at least on a personal level) they are interpreting the woman's kindness as romantic interest.
Joker is delusional in this situation, but he can't read this from a book, he has to experience it. I can understand why he thinks it's romantic interest.

The woman comes across as self absorbed though (or low IQ), it's obvious that TO the Joker he thinks it's romantic, at least his responses are. In other words she should have shut him down earlier.

>times you acted like the joker
>be festival’s artistic chief, Alberto Barbera
>praise the film and say it's a potential Oscar contender

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War Dogs was kino though

Maybe some people have different opinions than yourself. All this banter about the script is kind of pointless until we see what Joaquin's performance and the cinematography brings to the movie.

>>>/reddit/

She isn't really kind to him at all, just kinda tolerates him because she is a loser herself and even single mothers like the ego boost of having an orbiter

Honestly think it was underrated.

Exactly this.

fuck off redditor

Your opinions are shit and no amount of acting and cinematography could turn that script into a good movie, keep coping

Who plays batman in this?

This movie will cause retards to kill people which will give other retards reasons to pass legislation that removes freedoms from average people and cause all out war in the streets.

Thanks, Paul.

There is no Batman. Bruce Wayne is a little kid in a few scenes though.

Why would you even want to see a joker film with no batman

Well?

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the movie is incel bait, which is strange but I guess Hollywood sees a market for it

are you mentally challenged?

If the movie was awful, Barbera wouldn't be hyping it up or allow it to be in competition at Venice. Maybe you are the one with "shit opinions?"

>the joker is a virgin
is the uprising really happening?

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>Why would you even want to see a joker film with no batman
The character is interesting, and I like to see capeshit that tries to be more than capeshit.

>this movie is independent of the DCEU
>also here is some sequel bait in the shape of a young bruce wayne and the joker being responsible for the death of his parents

>If the movie was awful, Barbera wouldn't be hyping it up or allow it to be in competition at Venice.
appeal to authority, kill yourself

Absolute kino.

based

So will reddit9k losers be mad about this movie because they don't understand it, or because it points the mirror back at them, or will they love it because HE'S JUST LIKE ME I'M AN INCEL THAT GETS ABUSED BY WHORES MAAAHM YOU BITCH BUY ME A GUN SO I CAN SHOOT CARSON DALY AND BRING ME MY TENDIES YOU WHORE REEEE?

The only thing getting any "hype" is Phoenix's acting dumbass

literal retard. hm i wonder what other words have that substring in them... have sex sweetie. joker will never say the n-word

BRAVO

I think the normal manbaby capeshit lovers will hate this movie, not enough cgi vomit fights to fuel their add

>appeal to authority, kill yourself
Oh, when to whom i should appeal? To you?

>capeshit that tries to be more than capeshit.
Literally give (((one))) example of this

based

>Expecting me to believe The Joker is a virgin if he didn't rape Barbara's fine redhead ass after he stripped her naked and shot her to drive her dad insane

Sheeeeeit. I'm not a virgin and whoever pulled me out of her would have been named King Arthur.

They definitely will. Shill MCU bloggers are already trying to delegitimize this movie.

ghost rider

Nolan Batman trilogy and Logan.

fucking lol. why not just get some nog to assault him and carve him up in an alley if they want to have him scarred the whole script looks like the biggest edgelord fantasy. i hope it's real

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GIV

She knows you're watching and she likes it.

Listen, I like the script, but I have not seen the movie so I can not comment on its quality. I am just pointing out that all the people who have actually seen the movie have said it is good. It even had positive test screenings. When the movie comes out, I will be able to give my final opinion on it.

>many have tried to mimick him
>all of them failed

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You should have approached her user.

>i like the script
you have no taste

Good response. Want to list some stuff you like so we can evaluate your taste?

S E E T H I N G

Again an excellent response. You obviously have no interest in discussing the pros and cons of the script and are just devolving into name calling.

Relax, guys. Lets talk about movie quality when Joaquin wins the Volpi Cup in Venice. His only real contenders are Adam Driver and Brad Pitt so he has a real chanse considering that joker is a realy dramatic and theatrical role and he is very good in such roles

not the same user but you're the biggest tool I've seen on this site in the past month
Get a clue.

imagen to lick at to sandy pusy and slatwaters mmmmmmmm

>Volpi Cup
Fucking meme languages
SWITCH TO ENGLISH ALREADY

>times you acted like the joker
>be me
>go on Yea Forums
>act like the joker script is well written

Stop posting.

>cuts his mouth open
>"Now I have truly become the Joker"

jesus christ todd

It is. Would you like to explain why it isn't?

Coppa Volpi. Better?

Nah.

thanks god this line will not tranlate to the screen

It isn't a line. Just a script note.

"Arthur is upset because his mom won't let him be hardcore."

the film was directed by the same pretentious hack who wrote that sentence
this moment will be even worse in the final film

trailer was also made by that pretentious hack and i liked it very much. Also cinematography and composition looked very nice, not "hangover" style at all. So i hope it will be an ok movie. And lets not forget about Joaquin's acting, he can turn everything into kino

Wanna know how I know you have no clue what you're talking about?

The director doesn't make the trailer. The editor does. And usually not even the same editor that worked on the film itself.

Is this what creeps like you tell yourselves to justify your actions?

>cinematography and composition looked very nice
>judging the cinematography of a film based on a few shots from the trailer
literally a child's idea of what cinematography is

But the shots they use are from the film.

HAHAHA

Why does UMG have this script?

How does a leak like this occur?

youtube.com/watch?v=qkZxJli3VrQ

guys its obviously a fake leak with some real and fake parts to hype the release

this is textbook marketing

Civil War

>The director doesn't make the trailer
Lol, say this to PTA

For you

Someone working on the movie sent it to one of their friends. That friend put it into a Facebook group for screenwriters. It was spread from there, but no one would upload the full thing. Some rando on Reddit finally had the balls to upload the full thing.

nice astroturfing shill post
how much you get paid per joker thread OP?
fag
cringe and wrong

>facebook group for screenwriters
explains What group is this?

>overusing 'literally'
exposed

Why would WB pay people to post the full script to their upcoming movie online?

>this somehow affects cinematography and shot composition
Oh fuck off

I don't know the group. It has apparently been disbanded after the script was leaked. Also, who is UMG?

>YOU KNOW WHAT!? I FORGOT MY ID! I’LL BE BACK. THANK YOU.
What an alpha-chad this Arthur is, has them all tied in knots.

Those who make the trailer work... Part time.

>judging the cinematography of a film based on a few shots from the trailer
I was talking about cinematography in the trailer tho. Well, if cinematography in the movie will be complete opposite it will dissapoint me. But we only have trailer now, and a liked what i saw, like i said. And i dont understand why are you acting like a bitch

>changing the filter affects the way they pointed the camera

I like this its really cool how he is being seized by this madness and is on the rollercoaster with no brakes, I like movies with the Devil controlling everything.

Especially with the "it wasn't God..." line.

People are scared that The Joker is seriously going to convince people they need to kill everyone so the Jews decided to steal the script so they can see whats in it so they can warn everyone.

>cringe and wrong
Maybe you should try and educate yourself, retard? PTA made trailer for The Master himself

fpbp

I don't get why so many people are going so hard against this movie without even seeing it.

They're retarded comic book reading fatfucks or Pajeets being paid. Same as always.

121 pages to tell a story... wew

95% of notated scripts are 120+ pages you nub. I have stacks of the things in my office... I mean my bedroom in my parents basement.

he was literally anthony junior for a while

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I see, but I am more amazed at how some movies turn out really good with so little text, and now i kinda understand how some movies are total shit.

>SOPHIE
>I’m telling you, it’s across the board. Wall Street, the banks, politicians. (((They’ve))) been making a killing for years. Fuck them.
What did she mean by this?

holy shit, I will have to watch this now. kino incoming

Stop arguing, guys, there is a real question. So Joker has a cat in the script, it appears in many scenes when he is at home. But what does this passage at the end means??
>CLOSE ON THE ORANGE CAT AT THE WINDOW, and maybe if we're
looking close enough we notice something strange... the cat has no reflection
WHAT DOES IT MEAN? Was it his hallucination all the time?

Some says fuck the blacks on TV at on point.

this is so bad

>His mom is LITERALLY freaking inches from his face

why?

lasagnacat eu

it reads like something from deviantart

Garfield teaser

Meaning?

HE DOESN'T HAVE MOUTH SCARS IN THE TRAILER. THE SCRIPT IS FAKE.

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garfield kart 2 comes out this november so it actually makes sense

I refuse to read the script before it releases, but I’ll have a try. Is it at the end of the script?

Diction is completely different, I don't see what you mean

Calicos are always female
Orange cats are always male.

Should I bring my gf to the movies? She wants to see this but I don't want to get shot up bros

its bad, real bad. like it was written by 13 yos

Just make sure the theatre has a no singles policy.

As long as you don’t go to the showing I’m at, you have a better chance user.

My father...was a kind man, and a hard worker. One night, he drinks a responible moderate amount, not really overdoing it, just enjoying the taste. Mom grabs a drink to enjoy herself, he likes that. Then, he tucks me in and says, have a good night see you tommorow, sport

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>Is it at the end of the script
Yes, thats the scene

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How the fuck does this movie even exist in this form? It's going to go over the heads of 99% of its audience even though they'll like it for being edgy.

fpbp

>Calicos are always female
They can be male, but I think it's because of a XXY thing, and they're infertile.

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Still not going to read it, but it could be a Killing Joke unreliable narrator kind of thing.

Like it’s asking: if the cat isn’t real, then how much of his sad backstory is real? Maybe he’s just a psycho, maybe he’s just crazy, maybe he made this whole thing up. Maybe you shouldn’t admire or copy this hallucinating, murdering sadist who kicked homeless people to death even before he “snapped”.

Maybe if you think he’s 100% right, if you wholly agree with this monster’s point of view, you’re either a gullible idiot falling for a sob story or a psychotic piece of shit making up excuses just like Arthur is.

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Literally every credible capeshit fag has said it's real

Maybe you're retarded and don't understand the story.

That...would be actually good explanation

So what is your explanation for that cat with no reflection thing? What do you think?

bluepilled
travis was written to be both sympathized with and vilified. it works so well

Doesn't matter. The face scars are mentioned time and time again and they don't appear in the teaser. The script is fake.

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They’re bringing him back

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Or, you know, they hid them like they did with Thor’s eye in infinity war

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It's not. Could've been cut. Recent interview with Marc maron has proved it with him saying he's in one scene with de niro and joaquin butting heads in a dressing room, which is in the script.

Nah. Maybe they just deside to delete some too edgy stuff from the script

This is probably the correct explanation. At the end of the script the doctor asks him about his "episode." He responds with "How I remember it." This suggests that events might have happened differently than how Arthur believes they did.

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Zazie did say that they rewrote some stuff from the script. Maybe they took the facial scars out? Also, who would take the time to write a fake script?

Which page does he say the N word?

This. Zazie's scenes were probably rewritten to make her more of a character as she's pretty hollow in the script. Though I bet everything else is the same that's not related to her.

69

He doesn't.

>the doctor asks him about his "episode."
Which episode tho? Is this scene after DeNiro killing?

Yeah, at the end of the movie.

He does it in the second last scene of the movie

Also, the script suggests that Arthur might be hallucinating after he stops getting his meds. Pic related.

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He doesn't have a trailer either

nobody can write a decent 121 page script in just three months.
it's real.

But this is about his mother meds, not his. How is this related?

He takes the same meds.

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This'll be very interesting to see converted to film.

I'd need a reread, though I imagine the orange cat represents his identity of Arthur Fleck at an intial guess.
They have a conversation when he starts to discard his adopted identity and starts to become the Joker in earnest.
Could also represent his past abused self as a seperate manifestation of his personality. That he frees the cat near the end seems poignant.

Hmm, ok. I actually like all these hints about him hallucinating. Unreliable narrator is a good thing for a joker movie

Cool detail, that actually helps a lot

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I'd eat Helga's ass and then chew the monobrow from between her eyes.

Joaquin did say something in Empire about how Arthur decides to stop hiding his surpressed desires/wants/needs by the end and just stops caring what the world thinks of him. Guess that could link with animal/bestial imagery

I thought Travis Bickle was just a character from Windy City Heat?

Literally me. ;_;

No stupid, he’s from Watchmen

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>He looks down and sees an OLD ORANGE CAT, rubbing up against his leg
>Joker glances back down and sees the cat is gone
This is one of the first scenes, he still took his medications at that time, but he still sees cat

Helga can eat her own ass just fine without your help

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You get banned for words that scare the bitches there, which means this is a million times better.

Why does phillips say this is inspired by scorsese when it's so obviously influenced by the killing joke?

The cat's out of the bag.

He still hallucinates before he stops taking the meds. The meds are meant to stop them. Hallucinations get progressively worse as the movie goes on. The cat definitely isn't real since it doesn't have a reflection. I wonder if they added any other hints throughout the actual movie.

If he sees the cat is gone, maybe that’s just hinting it was a hallucination from the start. Going with the other meaning of it being his base/primal/animal self, maybe it’s a way of saying he never had any hidden darker part to him, he’s just a normal guy doing some fucked up shit because he wants to. The cat isn’t really a thing just like The Joker isn’t a thing, it’s not an alter ego but just a sad, angry Arthur in makeup.

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How so? How does pregnant wife dying in a fire and falling in chemical water compare more strongly than Taxi Driver and King of Comedy? I have a feeling you haven't seen those films.

Cat is always staring at him tho, so maybe this is just some retarded metaphore about how he should look inside himself or something
>THE ORANGE CAT SITS AT HIS FEET staring up at him, won't take her eyes off of him
>His orange cat is sitting on his chest, staring at him
>His cat sits on top of the TV watching him the whole time, never taking her eyes off him

The cat is obviously an allegory for the Jews.

some washed up writer who thinks it'll get a producer's attention and hopefully land him an actual gig
they think those people would flock to a potential "leak" and contact them with a job offer
and yes movie writers are obviously a joke

I've seen taxi driver and user lemme tell you this has more similarities with the killing joke than that. Unless you're saying the killing joke could be influenced by scorsese but that's another discussion.
I haven't seen the king of comedy tho, is it good?

Very. Check it out sometime.

Better than Taxi Driver you should watch it.

>he’s just a normal guy doing some fucked up shit because he wants to
I dont understand how is this related to a cat hallucination, sorry.
>it’s not an alter ego but just a sad, angry Arthur in makeup
I thought that this was obvious from the start. Also, what do you mean by alter ego tho?

If the orange cat’s his madness, maybe it always being there (when he’s all alone) is symbolic of how his madness has always been there, but surpressed? Or how it awakens when he’s on his own, lonely and depressed and unsure?

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drive.google.com/file/d/1ZK8knrPJrj5EsWMQom783Re1qz8rghcD/view Reddit? Cmon man. Next time post the link, take all my downvotes.

Based mentally ill incel loner Joker

I’m definitely just pulling at strings here to be honest. I guess I was saying: he treats Joker as someone else. All his darkest parts becoming their own seperate person who doesn’t even respond to the name Arthur.

The cat represents his animal side, his anger and madness. But if the cat isn’t really there, if there is no evil split personality to him, then it’s just been normal, nice Arthur Fleck doing all those evil things and acting as if it’s “Joker” doing them.

Again, probably pulling this out my ass, but it’s fun to discuss.

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Nice. I had nothing to watch tonight but I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

Damn does she summon a Chad to beat up the creeper incel filming her?

youtube.com/watch?v=6Bt0slFQVI8

Compare this to scene 53 in the script. It's a little different but it makes me think the script is real, even though they changed it slightly

Uncontrollable laughter as a kid can point to early onset or teenage schizophrenia, and uncontrolled laughter is a possible symptom of that, so it'd make sense why he's on an anti-psychotic then.

The cat is probably just a visual hallucination. It doesn't mean all reality isn't real, just that Arthur is actually Schizophrenic so he's not a fully reliable narrator.

It's a rule of thumb that 1 page of a script equals 1 minute of running time.
So this is essentially a script for a two hour movie, you absolute kinolet.

Yes and I could see the twist a mile off as the script makes sure to intricately mention whenever it interacts with something and is onscreen.
Chekov's Cat.

Why did I laugh at this

You can tell by comparing the script to the leaked pics and trailer that there is a lot of improv with this movie. Many of the scenes will be similar or the same, but minor elements will be different.

Because YOU'RE TOTALLY JUST LIKE THE JOKER BRO!

Whatching this after reading the scene in the script adding some different feeling to this. In the script Arthur basically is just autistic loser, but Joaquin playing it with such mannerism here, which is actually good, like he is a bad guy from beginning or something

Damn, this is actually puzzle-piecing better than I expected
Yeah exactly, it’s like in Wolf of Wall Street: you agree with him and sympathise with him because he’s selling you his own life story. See it from the eyes of one of his victims and he’s absolutely irredeemable.
Well that’s even better, if the script goes out of its way to mention the cat then it’s probably there for an important reason. That or the writers are OCD.

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Totally. This scene in particular looks way better in the video than in the script, even without having any audio.

Exactly. Which is why the people saying this movie will be shit just off the script, which I don't think is bad, are retarded.

I haven’t read the script but I heard in a different thread that at one point he kicks to death what’s implied to be a homeless person for no reason other than he’s angry and upset. I really like the implication he’s always been the bad guy like you said, just looking for a good reason to vent it

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This makes sense with the cat staring at him.
Cats stare at someone when they want something usually.
This being his desires, wants and needs, the cat wants to be let out, which he does at the end.

Based

It never directly states what he is kicking could be anything. I wonder if the movie will make it more obvious.

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>This scene in particular looks way better in the video than in the script
This. Joaquin's acting is just cool down all this edgyness like "awww everyone is so rude to me i am a victim and ets" and turns it into something interesting and more deep

>Yeah exactly, it’s like in Wolf of Wall Street: you agree with him and sympathise with him because he’s selling you his own life story. See it from the eyes of one of his victims and he’s absolutely irredeemable.

Yes

He would see himself as a victim, and he most likely has been victimized by many (as shown in the trailer by being beaten up several times for no reason), but he would also be delusional due to his mental disorder, which would turn to paranoia and hyper-vigilance over further slights, and when he finally has enough of it it will lead to murder, and most of them would be unjustified.

Does the cat appear before or after this? I have a theory.

Before. This is after he gets fired.

That nigga kicked the cat to death.

Honestly yeah, acting’s a lot more important to the substance of a movie than it gets credit for.

That’s even better: he’s trying to beat down and murder the urges telling him to get even with his boss for firing him

That was my theory, in part. I thought the orange cat could have represented something based around that scene, like a hallucination being this ghost cat that haunted him until he let it free.
It's not correct though.

There are hints about him being agressive and crazy from the beginnig of the script tho, before and after his killings. He also tries to choke Alfred
>AND JOKER REACHES THROUGH THE BARS AND GRABS HIM. Pulls him in close, trying to choke him, still holding the wand of flowers in one hand

He has scars on the more recent previews.