Past the age of 25 a man who missed out on teen love can be a bad thing

I'm almost 27, never kissed or interacted with a girl outside purely formal dialogues.

>Past the age of 20 a man who hasn't even kissed a girl yet has to be put on a high-risk watchlist

Huh... agreed.

>tfw a 17 year old girl at work is hitting on me constantly
I'm 21 yr old virgin, I'm not an americoon and so shes legal age but it still feels wrong to me.
what the fuck do i do?

Have you considered faggotry as an alternative?

Kiss a man because you're clearly a homosexual.

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rude :(

Date her for the experience, otherwise you won't know what to do in the future and won't ever learn.

Because you don't know what it feels like to miss that.

Bros... c'mon now. Seriously?

>tfw fucked 2 hookers but kissed neither

Is kissless handholdless non-virgin a thing?

>4 year difference
>legal
>feels wrong
Stupid cunt.

Seriously, unironically, legitimately. Not a single kiss or anything close to it. Never went on a date either.

Perhaps, but either way, it provided no lasting benefit to my life and is an endless reserve of cringe memories. Shit's overrated.

Based 25yearsoldandneverkissedagirl poster.

24 here

>teen love

Does that shit even exist? Always thoguht that was just Hollywood shit or something to ruin western society.

well it doesn't help that she is literally a womanlet

>Bros... c'mon now. Seriously?

Hi normie, you don't know the problems of life.

Will he ever defeat Bogs bros?

tfw 27 KHV with no social skills and I haven't had any friends in 15 years, also balding too

>kissing a whore
wtf is wrong with you

this user is having a stroke! someone call the ambulance!

How does this happen?

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Impregnate her, lad. Simple as.

based conspiracy poster

I don't leave my room that much.

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there are virgins alive right now in this fucking site, who donated semen and fathered children that already are old enough to have sex and you can bet your ass they probably lost their virginity before their father's

Sounds like a mad roastie who has realized her time is up.

Maybe you should, y'know, leave your room . Go to a bar or something

This better be a fucking meme. Holy shit.

>s-stop dating only women who are over 40 and have thick bodies!!!
NO

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why would I lie about that?

I wish it was just a meme my dear newfag friend.

My excuse is I'm a Quasimodo.

Life is not a movie retard.

I won't, and you can't make me.

You have already missed out on teen love once you turn 18. 14-16 is the best for that.

>people with social anxiety don't exist
fuck off

28 here khv, no degree, never worked a day

As much as it is baffling to you it's baffling to me how other people apparently all get to experience these things regularly as a normal thing.

I had a normal childhood, normal parents, never bullied in school or anything like that, have a decent job and my own place now. But that romantic/sexual part of life with an another person just never happened to me in any shape or form

21 year old here, dating a 19 year old, she is nothing but lovely and still sucked my cock after I explained End of Evangelion too her.

How the fuck do I fix myself and get out of this fucking hole. I feel like an alien, I wasn't meant to be born on this Earth. I exist in uncanny valley territory with everythinv I do. I used to be funny, I used to have friends, I used to have girls that had crushes on me, I used to get butterflies in my stomach and laugh at my friends jokes. I used to make people laugh. I used to have a shot.
What the fuck happened? Somebody tell me how to fix this, please.

I was literally asexual until 22.

My problem is that if I ever think I'm receiving interest from a woman, I usually get skeptical and assume I'm misreading the situation.

I've gotten better about it now. But I also live in a shitty place and would rather move before I even tried to give a shit.

yeah... well... what

>coworkers invite me to bar
>say yes because I don't want to decrease my standing with the company
>bartender asks me what drink I want
>realize I've never had alcohol and that I need to drive home afterwards
>"water please"
>coworkers look at me strangely, hear women tittering
>get up from my stool because I don't want to use up a spot someone else could use
>just stand near the wall drinking water from a plastic cup
>never say anything because I don't want to interrupt my coworkers and look like a sperg
>leave after 30 minutes because I want to be in bed by 10
>drive all the way home listening to ashens videos on NewPipe
I should honestly get my testosterone levels checked

wait a year, then plow away.

>23
>lost my virginity to a 9/10 girl who was 2 weeks 18
>she squealed
made it

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>get up from my stool because I don't want to use up a spot someone else could use
>I should honestly get my testosterone levels checked
Yeah you should

You doing drugs? Sounds like depersonalization but I'm no psychologist. But I would recommend laying off the drugs and keeping yourself busy so you don't obsess over the idea that you're an alien or whatever.

>I've gotten better about it now
how did you do it? i don't know any social cues at all or even texting cues

Alright, so, from top to bottom I will explain to you how it is possible. Let me begin.

I have a wimpy skull. My hair is scraggly and brittle, neither straight nor curly, and ends up looking completely misshapen and ridiculous. I am balding at 20.

My eyes are completely assymetrical, afflicted by ptosis both of my eyelids cover a good percentage of my pupils, one more than the other, complemented by near-black irises, a lazy right eye, and a somewhat negative canthal tilt, suffice to say my eyes alone have already locked me in at 4/10. Alas, it does not end there.

My nose is small, round, and crooked, with its round tip covering one of my nostrils more than the other. Another deformity to the list.

My jawline is completely messed up. Given an already weak narrow jaw, God decided to go all-in on the joke by making it slant sideways, completing the utter assymmetry of my face with a deformity that's both abhorrent and objectively unattractive at the same time, making my lower lip unaligned with my top, and having one of my profiles appear to have a recessive chin and the other an overbite.

But that's still not bad enough. My overly large and far cheekbones, like a Native American, complement my already minimal jawline by completely nullifying it, giving the appearance of a linear line between my cheekbones and my chin.

Oh, not bad enough? To top it all off, God gave me a babyface, just to destroy what vague vision of a jawline I might have had, a beard pattern that's patchy and, of course, assymmetrical, and nasolabial folds that age me by 10 years, removing even the dignity of having normal skin.

So, you ask me how it is possible for me to have not kissed a girl by 25? I ask you how it is possible for people like me to be born, just to suffer? Throughout all of my post I have used the word "God" ironically of course, but my sole existence is proof enough that he does not exist.

Unironically wish we could help you, user. Truth is, you've been on Yea Forums way too long and the miasma has dragged you down. Nothing but crab niggas down here, man.

Haha kissing a whore haha what a loser can you imagine haha haha haha

girls dont wait that long retard, even i know that.

you're supposed to at least try, it's rare a women will approach a man, unless you're a chad like myself who gets approached all the time. and start fucking lifting.
*most at social events/festivals and stuff

I have nothing of that at all except for maybe the babyface part, yet I'm in the same exact position having never kissed.

21/2 = 10.5(11) 11+5 = 16
ur good man

are you Elephant Man?

well then just fucking do it, whats the problem.

That's correct considering it's not real.

I AM NOT AN ANIMAL

Just realized how callous my post really was. I apologize.

I don't literally think I'm an alien, I just use that to explain how I feel, which is just out of place. I say things that in my head sound normal, but no one ever reacts like I expect them to. I'm probably just autistic. Also I do smoke weed sometimes if that means anything.

>past the age of 25 a man who votes Democrat can be a bad thing
makes you think huh

I lift for 6 years now, I eat better than anyone around me.
Yes I'm aware I'm should engage first in interactions more, but honestly I don't see anybody around me doing much of the same, it's mostly people in their own groups throughout the night.

Literally me except for the stool part.

I probably could have been had my mother waited even longer to have me. My father was 42 and she was 38 when I was born. I don't mean to insult them, but even in their prime they were bottom genetic material. Well, this is the life I was given.

Hey man, can you walk? I'm in a wheelchair for the rest of my life and will be dead in an estimated 2-3 years. Stop fucking whining, life is hard and was never meant to be easy. change what you can change and stop caring about what you can't, as theres no point.

you should become a 3rd or 4th level henchman for a super villain. The dude who's recognisable but ends up dying as a minor victory to a supporting character about half way into the movie

>phimosis and ipersensitivity which caused a literal sexual trauma
>not interacted properly with the opposite sex since highschool
>nice face but 5'5 manlet and severe social anxiety since 17
>wear special shoes to feel more at ease with others but this fucked up my knees
>kidneys sindrome since 3, I take pills every twelve hours
>formerly a vanilla type but developed porn addiction since 18 as a form of escapism
>very tomboysh lesbian sister once confessed to you she "feels like a trans" and you hope she will not transition in the future
>she forced you and parents to live with her jobless girlfriend for 8 years to this day
>talented artist and musician but no sight of a concrete future
>living in isolation and solitude in my room, never going out except for uni classes and exams lately
>contemplating each day suicide as an obvious exit
>only real thing that keeps me going on is music

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What the fuck are normalfags like you even doing on here?

The funny thing is that I'm actually a cyborg normalfag, most people that know me irl probably are not even aware that I never even kissed a girl.

I go out to pubs with a few of my "friends" every other week or so, I played drums in a grunge band for 5 years, I go to a few music festivals every year, yet I never managed to sexually escalate with any female I ever interacted with.

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118878298
>incel
reddit nigger

...

Try to cut weed out of your life little by little. Weed should be a reward not a crutch. And yes, I do smoke it myself.

faggot

Hypersensitive phimocock is honestly the worst. Even if you managed to get into bed with a willing woman you couldn't do anything but howl in pain. It's like God did his very best to make sure you never reproduce.

Doesnt help that you're a faggot.

im pretty much on the same boat, can barely recognize myself the "I" I used to be doesn't apply to me anymore and the current "I" has no personality or traits

more like full-mast lol

Im 35 and have had a friend or sex in around 5 years.

Your affliction doesn't give you a right to patronize me. I assure you I've inherited plenty enough genetic defects myself to assure I'd be dead by 40 max. I promise you every single fucking day I repeat your stupid stoic mantra, but guess what? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I can't force myself to not care all the time about how inhuman I look in the mirror, how hardly anyone has ever deemed me worthy of affection and surely no woman ever has, and certainly not when there are constant threads like these where people make a joke out of loneliness. Get it through your head, all you guys who are slightly autistic or socially anxious but normal \ decent looking and probably intelligence, you're gonna be completely fucking fine. It's people like me who end up dead in a ditch and ground up for usage as dog food. Fuck you man.

man why are you wasting your precious last few years on this cesspool? i call bullshit

Have sex.

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Looks don't matter. Judging by your post, girls are probably repulsed more by your complete lack of confidence and self-esteem.

At least you won't have to live with the pain of abject failure. Hope is a dangerous path for someone who's truly sub 3/10.

Basically I only accomplished it because of the benefit of hindsight. There were a couple of instances where I had texts or yearbook comments from forever ago that made me look back at my dynamics with those women with an objective perspective and realize they were in to me. Meaning I was able to finally realize that women COULD be in to me.

Thing is, since I've gotten better, I haven't interacted with a girl who's in to me. So that's going to be a hurdle to jump still.

Basically what it should come down to is: I don't know if you do it, but generally when someone socially awkward (like myself in the past) perceives that a girl may be interested in them, they attempt to be more obvious about the returned interest, but they don't have the balls to outright ask the girl out or say anything. Think about how difficult it is to try and express your returned interest, then realize the girl is in the same boat. If she's behaving in a particular way around you (and it's not how she is with everyone) and you get the feeling she's in to you? Odds are she probably is. And on the off chance you're wrong? You're wrong and no sweat. If you're an adult, then understand this isn't going to be like High School where asking her out is going to give her the impression you've been pining after her. If you ask her out and she says no, and then you brush it off like it's nothing, that'll not only boost your confidence but it'll make you more desirable.

I can't tell you how retarded I'd been in the past. I'm talking... I was ON the bed, nobody else with us in the house. And I just didn't get the hint.

Can I do anything to fix it? Otherwise I'm going to kill my self probably.

My mom had me at the age of 38 too user, and I'm not unattractive (could say I'm a fair 7.5/10), but I'm the worst kind or manic-neurotic person. I can function socially but I'll never be calm about anything. To every man his little cross.

*I* am

Just end it bro. Your only hope is reincarnation.

Yikes. Imagine having this much of a victim complex.

This.

same

>looks don't matter
lmao

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This, not either of you but I just feel like a totally empty person, like a blank canvas. I have no hobbies, no friends, don't go outside other than for work. But oddly I don't feel like I'm lacking those things. It doesn't make me sad that I don't have them, but it makes me sad that I don't want them. How can the apple fall so far from the tree?
I don't want anything out of life. I don't want a family, I don't want a good career or anything. I only want to be left alone to rot away in peace. If you locked me in a small room with a computer for the rest of my life I would be happy.
And it makes me sad that I see it that way because it's a deeply fucked up, unnatural behavior.
Humans are supposed to go insane without contact with other humans. It can literally kill you. So how is it that what's slowly driving me mad is interacting with others?
>hurr durr going on Yea Forums is human contact
no, you're lines of text and if you were anything more I wouldn't come here

wasn't this bitch exposed as a lying bitch ?

no idea, I think the only cure is circumcision but if you're ~25 like me it's probably too late and will only make your penis hurt even more

You describe yourself just like a /fit/izen would with body dysmorphia problems would describe themselves. People with literally no jaw at all get wives. People with a fucking down syndrome get wives. I'm sure if you posted a picture of yourself you would just look like a not particularly pretty individual, but that's it you don't look like Quasimodo who went through five world wars.

And it's not like putting your penis into a girl would change anything about your actual life, you can do that literally tonight by paying.

But you can stay in your passive petty little world doing nothing at all and die doing nothing at all if that's what you want.

You can meditate, take some pills, go through CBT, generally lead a good life to reduce your stress. I was born an abomination and get uglier the older I get. There's nothing I can do about it.

I can't. It would break my mom's heart to have her son commit suicide. She's worked hard enough in her life and I don't wanna throw that burden on her. She's also completely deluded about my looks. Motherly instinct I guess.

With that being said, suicide is for optimists. This shitty parody of a life is the only thing I'll ever have, so whatever. Laugh at my misfortune. If that's my silly role in this world, then so be it.

Why is it too late? Lots of people get surgeries at any age I notice, also I've managed to stretch the phimosis and I can retract somehow. Do you have phimosis too?

I'm glad I wasn't too proud to just bite the bullet and hire a prostitute. It made me more confident and less fixated on virginity as a concept. The first time I had sex with an actual woman was much smoother because I wasn't all worked up about getting my dick wet, and I stopped putting pussy on a pedestal in general, which has actually helped with my interactions with women in the long run.

I still visit prostitutes from time to time because, honestly, it's just easier than having to deal with the average women.

paying for sex wouldn't change anything about my life. i don't want to just put my penis inside a woman, i want to be desired.

>You describe yourself just like a /fit/izen would with body dysmorphia problems would describe themselves. People with literally no jaw at all get wives. People with a fucking down syndrome get wives. I'm sure if you posted a picture of yourself you would just look like a not particularly pretty individual, but that's it you don't look like Quasimodo who went through five world wars.

What do you want me to say? I deliberately kept my descriptions as physically accurate as I could. None of them are lies. If you saw me then you'd know that they're all accurate. Moreover, my whole life I've been called ugly, although mostly indirectly by girls and sometimes directly by boys. To this date no woman has shown attraction to me. Trust me, I'd know. I've meticulously drilled into my brain any and all signs of possible attraction. Nothing. People with no jaw at all get wives? Good for them. I clearly can't.

It was never about putting my penis in a vagina. Are you coming from a similar position to my own, or have you experienced attraction, affection and love in your life? If you have, then not to devalue your own suffering but you can't possibly know what it's like to be me. To be so completely and utterly unwanted by the world. Can you begin to understand?

This is my problem too. I've passed up a few opportunities that have felt like pity-fucks.

Holy fuck, are you me? I feel the exact same way. Most of the time I just want a hole to crawl into. I fucked up my life because I don't want anything or to do anything. I can't call myself a person. I took an online pysch quiz once and was told I had avoidant personally disorder. The symptoms described fit me perfectly. Maybe something to look into.

You in a wheelchair or something what the fuck

Please don't shoot anywhere up. It's not societies fault youre a creepy incel

Most red pilled post ITT.

>that full head of hair
can't relate desu he can get the jaw and nose fixed but I can't get my hair to regrow, I tried

this is me next year

Based radicalizing post reflecting society's hidden truth that virgin = incel = school shooter.

i fucked for the first time at 29. i had a close call a few months before it happened foreal that i know would have been really messed up.

i got a job as a dishwasher in a fairly high end resturant. some of the waiters working at those places have very high social iq and can help you a lot to catch up if youve been a NEET for most of your life

>You can meditate, take some pills, go through CBT, generally lead a good life to reduce your stress
Those things did consume a good part of my life, it's not at all so simple, sadly. As I said, we all suffer in our own ways.

As for you, I guess there are still some things to be done. Some women want Chads when they're young, some don't, but in the end, when life is getting serious, they all want a caring, loving person who will be a good friend and a good father. Don't give up.

I refuse to believe that there are actually adult virgins in this thread. We live in the age of Tinder, it's so fucking easy to smash a needy 5/10 girl any time you want.

118879785
>incel
reddit nigger

>You in a wheelchair or something what the fuck
Nope. I'm

>he can get the jaw fixed
No he can't. He can minimize the deformity at the cost of about 50-100k, but he will never have a chiseled jaw.

>father child through artifical insemination
>get girlfriend, meet son
>son steals girlfriend and loses virginity with her before I do.
Feelsbadman

look up schizoid, I'm exactly that except I take criticism to heart and love being praised
It's because we didn't grow up past the "just let the adults talk sweetie" phase of life so all we do is live at home and ask our parents permission for everything, so when it comes to making decisions or friends we just freeze up and don't know what to do

>I refuse to believe that there are actually adult virgins in this thread
Go back normalfaggot.
>We live in the age of Tinder
Yeah Tinder where even the ugliest possible hambeast has an entire catalog of men to then pick out who she wants to fuck.

There is no "needy" 5/10 girls, because those girls have access to around 50 and 100 mens on Tinder, they can choose easily.

>but he will never have a chiseled jaw.
neither will most of us, he can get it to an acceptable level

Hey man, I may be ugly but I'm not retarded. The kind of love that a single mother has to give to her beta provider after hopping the cock carousel her whole 20s long isn't the kind of love I'm looking for, which is to say not love at all.

Social anxiety doesn't exist. It's just an excuse people use for being lazy failures.

I don't think you quite understand how fucked my face/hair looks or let alone how I have 0 pictures of myself

Do you ever regret it? I'm this close to biting the bullet with an escort but I know I'll be hung up on it all being fake intimacy and I might even get performance anxiety because of it.

>tfw 28
>tfw only experience with a girl is one I made out with last year and she was just a huge slut according to roommate who knew her
>coulda fucked her but I wasnt interested
>just want to feel love and offer my love
>know that modern courtship is fucked and you can only meet girls online now
>cant stand out on tinder because I'm a 5 or 6/10 at best with a mild personality

It's so painful feeling loveless.

Anyone can get some pussy. There's like 3 billion women on the planet. Just a t more confident and everything will come together.

I am 25, kissed an escort once while we were having sex. Made me cum twice as fast as usual, and then I felt tfwngf for the rest of the day.
Can't imagine what it must be like, with someone you love and who loves you back.

>We live in the age of Tinder

I refuse to reduce myself to an advert. I prefer live interaction.

This is the maximum result of a jaw surgery. No longer a circus freak, but still quite ugly.

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Not all women do that, and that's the whole point. Waiting for marriage sure is very rare, but lots of women only sleep with their first serious bf and then some other friend, and then remain volcels till they find some super stable relationship that they want to turn into marriage. You just need to look around - as you said, you're not retarded, so you can get a good job, find a decent hobby, and at least try to attract them.

>fuck a 17 year old at 22
Does that count?

bee yourself

Given stats like these:

twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1111607604348805120?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

And the site's socially-awkward friendly anonymity and are you really that surprised?

Surely not as bad as

never heard of that

5/10 girls don't want 5/10 guys

Lol. Some guy on incels.co approached more than 1000 women in person (way better chances than tinder) and got rejected by all of them. He's better looking than me.

>mens
Third world piece of shit

23 here, trying to change that next year.

>tfw I'm 22

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>incels.co
please tell me that this site isn't real

Stop posting here. It's not the full battle but it's a big part of it.

>Do you ever regret it?
Sometimes when I'm short on cash, but what's the alternative really? I just sit and stew in virginity because I'm waiting for "true love" to fall out of the great blue sky and into my lap?

Think about every emotionally and sexually healthy man you've ever met. Do you think they ever spend days being hung up on concepts like fake intimacy? As much as it sounds like a cliche, sex really isn't that big a deal, and it takes bonking a few chicks you don't really give too much of a shit about to understand that.

Every beta male I know puts pussy on a pedestal and has a view of women and sexuality that's on par with a fucking ten year old. They also tend to only have, like, two or three notches on their bedpost, and that's no coincidence.

Forget the lovelessness, forget how "fake" it all is. Nine times out of ten, it's going to be fake, because love, in its purest realistic form, is extremely rare, especially for an average/unattractive man.

You just need to accept the reality of your existence and stop letting fantasy cloud your judgement. Once you do that, you'll be fine.

This ain't a meme this is real life.

Post Daddario.

>Are you coming from a similar position to my own
Yes, in the sense of that I never even kissed a girl or went on date in any shape or form. But I'm perfectly aware that it's entirely my fault, that statistically if I now decided to approach every drunk bar girl possible every single night for a month straight atleast one would agree to atleast engage in some kind of interaction.

I can list you hundreds of my "defects" aswell. I have pronated feet, short calf insertions, minor knee valgus, wide hips, mild lordosis, frenulum breve, pectus excavatum, flared ribs, slight gynecomastia, non symmetrical ab insertions, non neutral teeth posture, receded maxilla, exfoliative cheilitis, accented sebaceous filaments, negative canthal tilt and I'm not that tall. And naming all of these things now sounds like I'm some kind of deformed barely human monster, while in reality I'm just a yet another person who is not entirely perfect. As I said, visit /fit/ and look at any body rating thread, they all can name thousands of problems with them while literally looking better than any average individual.

I will admit that no one ever said to me that I'm ugly or even implied that in any shape or form though so that must be harder for you

Come on man. Let it go. No woman is going to be with me. Not in this lifetime. Even if I could be a sugar daddy, which I 100% can't, that's really not what I'm looking for. If I'm going to be alone my whole life long, then at least I can do so with a bit of false dignity.

You will never feel love unless you walk, talk and behave like a man who's gets laid. The innocent schtick only works up to your mid teens, after that it becomes creepier and creepier. Treat hookers like medical practitioners. Your dentist doesn't care if your breath stinks, he's there to make sure it doesn't continue to stink. Just us protection ffs

Checked. Great advice and I'll take it to heart but it's not going to be easy.

hotwheels that u?

>a cyborg normalfag
Kinda like this everytime I tell them I never had a gf they all just laugh and say bullshit every damn time, so I just decided to wing it and pretend I have experience.

>don't dip your pen in company ink

This guy knows what he's doing

kek its debatable
>hair thin as fuck
>tried to get a hair transplant but it failed so I'm stuck with a huge scar on the back of my head
>crooked teeth and nose
>acne scars
>still getting acne at age 27
>weird double crease mark on my chin
>can only grow a semi beard on one side of my face, other side is just the same 20 hairs that grow in
>have that thing where my eyelids are covering half of my pupil so it looks like I'm either permanently high or just crazy

Miles better than what she had, you can see a line there

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GOd that thread gave me cancer

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How's your facial proportions and symmetry, jawline, hair, and eye area aside from NCT? You've mostly talked about your body when I've only talked about my face, which hardly seems fair considering 99% of attraction is face.

>two or three notches on their bedpost, and that's no coincidence.

What do you mean exactly ?

>You will never feel love unless you walk, talk and behave like a man who's gets laid
You forgot look.

It's a figure of speech. It means they've only had sex with two or three women, which is partially why they're beta males who put women on a pedestal.

Based. How was it bro

You're either trolling or have never used Tinder. You can literally find a woman to fuck in like 20 minutes. It's the easiest shit in the world. Half the time you don't even need to take them out first, just invite them round/go to theirs and smash.

Never said it wasn't, but she's still very below average.

Teen love is basically learning how to hate women.

>Forget the lovelessness, forget how "fake" it all is. Nine times out of ten, it's going to be fake, because love, in its purest realistic form, is extremely rare, especially for an average/unattractive man.
Quick somebody post that french club scene

Based ignoramus Chad

So you're an incel who criticizes men who successfully fucked 2-3 different girls, because they have a "bad mentality"?

What kind of mental gymnastics is this

Some troll pretended to approach 1000 women you mean and LARP about it to a group of pathetic virgins, you mean.

Stop watching porn

lmaoing @ all u faggots crying about >tfw no jaw
i'm LITERALLY like and i've been with more than 10 women by the age of 20

t. 26

Woah, wtf? A femcel? Heh, I thought they were a just a wives tale.

give that original guy a nose/jaw job and he'll be miles ahead of me who if I'm being extremely generous has an ok nose/jaw but is aggressively thinning/balding

You still don't get it. This isn't the case of who looks worse, but you being a passive little bitch doing nothing at all. You are not the ugliest human on Earth.
What are the facial proportions of Michael Cera? Should've Danny DeVito just killed himself as soon as he turned 18 years of age?

Forgot pic

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> facial proportions and symmetry, jawline, hair, and eye area
Nigger did you ever think the only reason you haven't missed a girl yet is because you're a faggot and too afraid to admit it? I mean what kind of fucking man worries about their fucking 'facial symmetry'? That's some fag shit right there. Do you also paint your nails and wax your chest?

>Incel
>Had sex
I don't really understand what you're getting at.

He did it for months and recorded several of his approaches. Unless you have solid proof it's all been fabricated, Occam's Razor says it's probably real.

shes lying of course, look at her picture

It's legit true.

No, no I didn't. You'll learn one day. Hopefully before you tie that noose around your neck.

Incel =! virgin. Are you an incel? (Prostitutes don't count). Because if you are, then you probably shouldn't be so critical of normies who care about having sex.

Ideally you could have found a girl when you were both younger and stayed together forever with no drama and more of an emotional bond since you lived through all the same things.

It's not normal for women to ride the carousel for 10 years until she realizes that her womb is rotting away so the next guy she forces the next guy she meets through emotional manipulation to impregnate her so he becomes her ATM, either staying married or divorcing him some time down the line to do it again with another sucker like a black widow spider.

I would say teen love is the most sincere since love is inherently just random attraction which is superceeded by superficial things the older you get.

Tinder doesn't work in my country, the few girls that do use it use it just for attention points, no one actually meets anyone there aside from maybe the biggest 11/10 turboChads

yeah, if you're living in Russia or Romania

Get off the Internet

The proof is he couldn't have possibly asked out 1000 women and got no dates unless he was intentionally trying to do it, which adds credence to the troll theory.

Can you just not read? I literally mentioned having sex with non-prostitutes in the very post you're unsuccessfully attempting to pick apart.

Are you a beta male who's pissed because you've only had sex 2-3 times? Why so pissed?

das normie

I live in Eastern Europe. No one uses apps like that here.

Sorry to break it to you but effort can't solve everything. Sometimes reality is more powerful than human will. And reality has shown to me that no matter how hard I try no one will want me. Do you want me to waste any more time spreading humiliating stories about myself for anons to laugh at and you to dismiss? I can't overcome this but not being a "passive little bitch". If you have a better face than mine you won't understand.

Hoes mad

25 years old and had sex with 30+ women (honestly lost count)

It’s pretty nice

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I'm not pissed at all. You're just trying to make yourself appear more "laidback" and "cold" than all the normal people who aren't losers like you and lost their virginity in a normal way. It's pointless.

I don't get this cock carousel bullshit incels always mention. If some girls fucked a bunch of guys in college why do I care? I fucked a bunch of girls in college, and would have ended up fucking less if they acted like prudes so it's beneficial to men that women slut it up in their prime.

If you live in the middle of nowhere, but if you live in any normal city, girls have access to an unlimited number of partners on Tinder, even if they are out of her league

Never know what you've got til it's gone. If you got hit in the face with a brick today and some drunk plastic surgeon botched your surgery, you would also worry about facial symmetry just like me when all of the sudden looking at a woman for more than a couple of seconds would be met with fear and disgust.

>You're just trying to make yourself appear more "laidback" and "cold" than all the normal people who aren't losers like you and lost their virginity in a normal way
Not really. I'm just trying to help a guy who's hung up on virginity to get over his hang-ups, accept the situation he's in and maybe pull himself up a bit.

I have no illusions about myself or the way in which I lost my virginity, I just don't really care about that too much, nor do I care about being "normal".

Where do you live, Syria? If so just meet girls at work or parties or whatever. It's still not difficult. Women are just people, talk to them, get friendly with them , eventually move it on to something more physical. You want to have sex because sex is fun, so does she. It's literally the easiest thing in the world if you try.

ITT standards that are too damn high.

He got 4 dates, none of which led to a second date or much else. Also, it being impossible to approach 1000 women without getting a date assumes the probability. If the probability doesn't match reality, it's your assumption that's wrong, not reality.

Nigger just have a shower buy some new clothes that look good and go to a bar and ask a 5/10 if she wants a drink. That's all there is too it.

Based. Can't relate but if you look like that and still clap cheeks, you are based.

>tfw I did everything with my high school girlfriend but got an anxiety softy when the big moment came.
and I'm still a virgin to this day.

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Just post a pic of your face

the only standard I have is that she's not an overweight whale

Based ignoramus Chad

Not at all

And you are one of those unlimited number of partners, and will fuck one of the unlimited number of women eventually.

so 20-24 year olds who missed out on teen love are fine?

>ask a 5/10 if she wants a drink. That's all there is too it.
>no I don't want a drink, get away you freak
and then the white knights arrive

THIS.

Nah bro the reason you're not getting any pussy is because you're gay and making excuses because you don't want people to call you a fag. Facial symmetry. What the fuck.

I do, what's wrong with that?

Rent free.

He's just bullshitting you for attention. Its literally impossible to fail that many times.

Among those unlimited number, some are way better looking than the others, so a 5/10 can date a 7/10 guy

>Do you want me to waste any more time spreading humiliating stories about myself for anons to laugh at and you to dismiss

Been there done that.
Extended gaze from me = fearful wide-eyed reaction
Greeting = mocking laughter \ annoyance \ indifference
Flirt = mocking laughter \ disgust \ threats
About ~40 attempts on women I considered to be average, mostly below average, before I gave up.

This.

I can't. I will immediately be recognized and I can't risk becoming an incel posterboy.

what did you mean by this?

Literally never happens

Low IQ reply

You fags unironically need arranged marriages.

There are three options if you are an average/unattractive man

>buy prostitutes
>settle for a 1-5/10 once she's all used up
>be the beta provider for a 6+/10 who feels little to nothing for you once she's all used up

Get over it and pick which one offends you the least.

Censor out your eyes or some shit then.

If you're truly as demented as you say, not seeing your eyes will protect your identity but still give us a good idea of what we're talking about.

That's why you can talk to them you retard. It's not just pictures on a wall, send the firdt message once you matched and strike up a conversation.

>Women are just people
I'm convinced they aren't, at this point,

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girls always seem to be 'friends' with too many dudes for me to find them attractive

There is no way you're not a troll, but well done you got me good for taking so long to catch on.

what do you talk about? I don't know how to progress a conversation after "hi, how are you" and I guarantee you not a single woman will respond to that

Im gonna go ahead and pass on all 3.
All your options require me to spend my money on dumb whores(all women) and I'm not gonna do that.

Low effort troll try harder

You're letting roasts live in your head rent free. Who cares if she calls you an ugly freak? she is still a woman and by definition a lower life form, how could an insult coming from a woman hurt a man? White knights arrive? Beat the dog shit out of them. (Never go out clubbing on your own btw. Always bring m8s)

anchor.fm/uninstall/episodes/First-Approach-mall-femoid-wrapping-presents-e2km1q/a-a6la3l
Some of his recorded approaches.

This is me. I've got actual birth deformities, and while I'm still a kissless virgin, I don't have the level of self-pity that you do, man.

Stop obsessing. Unless your goal is to become a famous actor or some shit (something that doesn't even go well for most pretty people) there's no reason for you to be this down on yourself.

If your concern about showing your face is "I don't want to be an incel posterboy" that tells me that deep down you know you're not as bad as you think you are.

>women when they're young
>"HAHA FUCK YEAH I LOVE DATING OLDER MEN, FUCK THOSE OLD CUNTS LEAVE MY BOYFRIEND ALONE"
>woman gets older
>"WTF WHY ARE MEN DATING YOUNG WOMEN STOP BEING SO IMMATURE YOU FUCKING PEDOS EAT MY ROAST CUNT"

>Strike up a conversation
Thanks for this very useful advice, my boomer father.
Fuck off, if I could talk to people correctly I wouldn't be where I am.

The last time I talked to a girl was almost a year ago. Why the fuck should I care anyway

Why shouldn't a girl be friends with a dude? Sounds kinda pathetic desu

Flirt nigger it's not hard

You posted in this thread.

Because it's so enjoyable for me to berate myself on Yea Forums for hours on end.

One time I didn't even try. I was just drunk at a party and nodding off in a trance while staring at the dancing crowd. Turns out I was unlucky enough to lock eye contact for several seconds with a woman dressed in a skimpy outfit. I will never forget the glare of genuine horror she gave me. She nearly got some guy there to beat me up. Am I making this story up too? Believe what you want to believe, I know my reality.

100% chance this incel appears on the news in the next six months.

>Who cares if she calls you an ugly freak?
that would kill what little self esteem I have left and I have no friends at all so they'll kill me before I manage to hit the second guy. I wouldn't go clubbing anyway, I'd feel uncomfortable there

>hi I think you're cute
is this even considered flirting? because that's all I know and you know how many times she's heard that? what makes me saying it any different

Nigger you're talking to us just fine. Talking to a woman is no different. You're trolling right?

> tfw being a guy with the romantic mentality of a teenage girl and depressions about life choices
> hugless kissless 25 year old virgin
> found a girl with the same mentality, a year older who isn't repulsed by it through online dating
> definitely overweight (strongly suspect insecure chubby from the pics, could still be obese) but I don't care because the emotional connection is finally what I wanted out of life and attracts me far more than the shape of flesh
> writing daily with her about our genuine feelings and how well the other copes with life until we can meet in roughly a month due to obligations preventing both of us from taking the time right now
> both of us know that this thing can't really last or work for long due to the distance

I hope this is a replacement for our missed teen love and gives us both enough confidence to finally become real people. I already feel better just from writing with her.

Post the video.

>Am I making this story up too?

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It's half your age plus 7 you retard. That means OP can date a 17.5 year old

It astounds me that autists are supposedly the less self-aware breed when retards like this exist.
>Lmao just be normal it's not hard

>Stop obsessing
I would love to, but it's difficult when I can't stand looking in the mirror and I keep having dreams about having relationships that feel so real. Meeting some gothic girl on the bus and realizing we share interests, hanging out at her house and promising we would meet again. Secretly kissing my highschool crush in the attic. Too many dreams like that that always appear when I'm on the cusp of no longer caring. It's not like I can control them.

>If your concern about showing your face is "I don't want to be an incel posterboy" that tells me that deep down you know you're not as bad as you think you are.
How? Eggman and blackops2cel are still tossed around as memes years later. If I became someone like that I couldn't live it down. If someone jokingly spreads my picture around after a school shooting or something then my life is basically over.

That's fine. Low effort, but fine. She's heard it a lot because it works.

Czechd

Tell me about a couple times you've tried to approach women. I'm just curious, not laughing at you.

>22
>Never even held hands with a girl
Oh well. It's not like I even have enough time to deal with that shit between wageslaving and working out.

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I can guarantee you I can't hold a conversation with anyone in real life. Posting on Yea Forums is nothing like having a real life conversation or even messaging online, neither of which I can do worth a damn.

no man wants to be friends with a woman
they want to fuck her and are just waiting for the right moment

>low effort
as opposed to what? "you're beautiful"? and her response if she even responds is gonna be "thanks" and thats it for me, I have no idea what to say after that

Let your sister be happy and do what she thinks she should. Maybe if you were more accepting of her, someone would accept you.

Haha oh wow

>wanna smash?
And then she pepper sprays you.

29 going on 30 here

I'm almost a wizard bros

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/fit/izens, doesn't working out and being swole as "fuark" give you an insane amount of confidence with women? Gymcels are the 21st century's greatest mystery.
t.dyel skelly

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>this is what years of r9k and /pol/ does to your brain

Yea Forums had always been a board full of charming men with good taste in cinema. where did all the incels come from, /pol/? Yea Forums?

>hey how's it going?
>have a boyfriend

>so, I like your dress
>mocking glance then ignore

working out helps your fucking brain chemistry so much you wouldnt believe it.

this, lads hit the gym.

>I would love to, but it's difficult when I can't stand looking in the mirror and I keep having dreams about having relationships that feel so real. Meeting some gothic girl on the bus and realizing we share interests, hanging out at her house and promising we would meet again. Secretly kissing my highschool crush in the attic. Too many dreams like that that always appear when I'm on the cusp of no longer caring. It's not like I can control them.

Dude I get that. I'm actually of the mindset that I'm gonna kill myself if I can't fix my shit. But even then, it's more because I personally just don't like it and don't want to exist if I can't live the life that I want. Not because I'm sad, but because I'm so very uninterested in continuing life otherwise.

If you're this hopeless you would've given up by now.

>If I became someone like that I couldn't live it down. If someone jokingly spreads my picture around after a school shooting or something then my life is basically over.

This is what I'm talking about. Your fear show's that you're not as ugly as you say you are and you know it. Because otherwise sharing this alleged John Carpenter abhoration of a face would have us all disgusted, rather than having us all laugh at how not ugly you actually are.

Your concern is being a meme, not in having your insecurities confirmed by objective strangers.

>working out helps your fucking brain chemistry so much you wouldnt believe it.

>this, lads hit the gym.

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is it the nose or the sunken eyes that throw it all off? or both? he has perfect hair so thats a plus

It turns you bisexual.

With a beard he will gain some points

It's literally the same thing. You're overthinking yourself into a perma-virgin what the fuck.

That plus his creepy serial killer smile.

I'm friends with plenty of women, they're funny and we get along. Good banter. I've only fucked 2 out of the probably 60 female friends I've had in my life, and that was only when drunk. You're literally making assumptions and basing your world view off those wrong assumptions. How sad.

As a thin guy, it baffles me how guys with A1 physiques can't get laid. It just doesn't compute. Especially since 7/10s are willing to even give someone like me a shot. Fuck, I would be swimming in women if I just went to the gym.
>confidently into a bar looking like a less attractive Huge Jackedman
>all women in the building bite their bottom lips

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Girls that really want to feel loved love being approached in the real world, it's just that they don't want to go to dating circuits. You must be in her social circle which means either going to regular smaller scale parties of friends and colleagues or outright asking someone from work. I know how scared you all are of sexual harassment (especially americans) but I bet only a portion of you people here is as incapacitatingly ugly as you think you are and if you use your brains and instincts you should be able to tell which girl is too full of herself or too scared of social contact to consider getting you fired for trying to talk to her. And if you learn how to reason in a diplomatic way with your feelings you can talk yourself out of any unwanted thing with a girl.

Fuck it. I'm fixing my teeth. I want off this incel ride RIGHT NOW

he'd look good in a T-shirt and a pair of jeans like pic related,

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For saving himself a shit ton of money and time?

Based
but even if they are, they sure as fuck don't act "just like guys" when you try to talk to them. Guys are happy to banter, have fun, shoot the shit, go in depth about hobbies. I don't know what the fuck women want to hear, other than Chad's voice

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> Dykstra

This is a troll, move along.

Women are human, but they sure as shit ain't men and you need to keep that in mind at all fucking times.

Bro please. Turn back, there's still time.

No, he would look good in a face mask.

if your brain chemistry is a mess then you cant read social cues for shit. you become like that junkie that tries to talk to random people on the bus who everyone thinks is fucking annoying.

>but they sure as shit ain't men and you need to keep that in mind at all fucking times.
what does this mean

Your brain chemistry is a mess if you think that guy is attractive.

Not him but, are you seriously asking this?

Even people in wheelchairs get pity kisses

With a black-haired flamenco dancer

nah, still bad

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23 here, does it get any better?

it is a meme
most of those are pajeets and chans that stare at women's feet when they're talking to them
you're browsing this board with unironic literal incel subhumans

It's sad that you can't understand that there are many layers to attractiveness. He's no Chad but he could hit on your mum and she'd be excited about it.

these threads are larping, right? Going by the posters here and how often these threads come up you would think at least 80% of Yea Forums are incels.

Like there is just no way a board could be that pathetic.

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would he be better looking if he didnt go to the gym?

Delusional.

>22
>kissed 2 girls
>held one's hand
AMA

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I guess so but I do think dehumanizing them is a bridge too far though. They are just extremely disturbed individuals.

No, he'd still look like a creepy incel, except he would have used his little time on this world on activities he enjoys rather than picking up and putting down heavy things.

Why would any modern, strong and independent woman waste their precious time on an adult virgin? These women have had sex since their teens and you rot inside your home in front of a computer discussing about big guys, flight plans and crashing the plane with no survivors. To get a relationship these days you need to be a handsome alpha male who makes good money, is adventurous and extroverted.

Women do not want polite nice guy incels.

Depends. If you’re short (under 5’11) or ugly in the face the only thing that’s going to help you get a girl that isn’t pig disgusting is money.

What's it like being Chad?

How come it never progressed past kissing in either case?

Not the user you replied too, but I was in the same situation as both of you a few years ago. I tried stretching, and then got prescribed a steroidal cream to aid in the process, but with little success. My doctor said that in very few cases the cream (which is sort of the last step before circumcision) does not help treat the phimosis. After a while I decided it was time to move on, and went ahead with the surgery. Overall, it hasn't been too bad, but I would only recommend as your very last resort

Yeah I'm and I was LARPing the whole time. Turns pretending to be the ugliest incel alive is really good bait for (You)s.

Start visiting and reading /r/theredpill daily. Read the sidebar, read some posts.. and ask yourself, why would you seriously want to waste your time on a modern western woman?

>Be an virgin for most of my life
>Hey, sex isn't that big of a deal. I don't even care that much
>Have sex once
>Now I want sex all the time
I should have just stayed an incel

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Guys, its easy to find a gf.

First, fix yourself. Download the Stronglifts app on your phone and go to the gym a mere 3 times a week. You will immediately start improving.

Start dressing well.

Unironically clean up you room.

Stop snacking. Stop drinking anything besides water or coffee during the week. Enjoy alcoholic beverages in moderation when in social settings.

Improvement is not as hard as you think, once it becomes a habit you will be on autopilot.

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I like comparing this to movies. Modern movies are always so dishonest an try to entangle you with adding twists and turns, complicated new plot threads into remakes of something. That complicated shit is done as a distraction to entangle as many passersby as possible, quantity over quality. But that Original worked much better due to its honest simplicity and heart. It won't work with everyone but when it works it works perfectly.

You do gain confidence, but you have to strike while the iron is hot. Eventually it goes away, and although your body has changed, your mind hasn't.
>t. started lifting during early highschool

yes, why do you think I typed that?

>"Man cannot remake himself witout suffering for he is both the marble and the sculptor"

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>Eventually it goes away, and although your body has changed, your mind hasn't.
This. You get a short term boost of confidence but then that goes away and you end up obsessing over your body and in some ways end up more neurotic than before lol

maybe working out would help him improve other areas of his life? other men would think higher of him and that can improve your work life and social status.

Holding a girl is unironically as good as you imagine it, if my memory from 7 years ago holds up

1st case we were both teens and I had no private place, not that I would've had confidence anyways.

2nd case drunk panface girl confessed to me out of nowhere, tried to start something in my dorm room but my roomate came back. Never tried to make anything happen with her because I would be ashamed if anyone found out I hit it. More proud to be a virgin

Fuck. This makes a lot of sense.

why'd you have to do me like that?

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a girl kissed me when i was around 16 on a trip with friends, never felt that good in my life after 8 years. I think about it from time to time...

This, sex is actually one of the few things in life that are enjoyable for all those who experience it. This whole sex isn't that big of a deal meme probably started from some incel's big brother trying to comfort him.

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Coach Red Pill is a con artist with more losses under his belt than wins, just search for him on Kiwi Farms.
With that kind of mindset you are an "Alpha Male" but when you are lacking the matching looks for that or don't at least have the same assertiveness in real life you might as well kill yourself now.

Is it possible to regain your virginity and therefor the virgin mindset/walk if you've had sex before (11 women) but haven't got any in almost 5 years?

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fuck you liar
Working out does jack shit for the brain
I did pushups as best I could for two hours for a week and it literally did fucking jack shit. Where is my dopamine?

Fuck working out. It's a pain in the ass and it isn't worth the effort

Fucking A. These boys better shape up. Sex can feel transcendent with the right girl and afterwards you feel alpha for days.

Post pic

Never improve: the post. Fuck off goober

This. Most people in this thread are lying about their virginity anyway though, and the one's that aren't are probably gay.

Next time try actually working out

>If some girls fucked a bunch of guys in college why do I care? I fucked a bunch of girls in college . . .
Yeah, but incels didn't; that's why they care.

yes.

t. user in the same boat. We're still gonna me it though, right?

>my Chad younger brother doesn't lift, works as a pizza delivery guy, dresses like a clown, has a disgustingly messy room, and is a pothead
>has had multiple 8/10 qt gfs in just the past year
>I'm a 22 y/o virgin with a CS degree
I'm glad for him, but it's honestly extremely demotivating

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>25
>only had sex once
>4 years ago
>got gonorrhea
>had to go to a nurse practitioner and have a cotton swab shoved up my dick
>said nurse practitioner was hot as fuck

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>Most people in this thread are lying about their virginity anyway though
haha yeah, I can't even imagine a 27 year old neet friendless virgin haha

Why is this a surprise to you?
I know a lot of guys in their 20s that are kissless virgins.

It's about lifelong connection, not minutes.

>pothead
that's the answer user.

>354 replies
Kino thread, lads.

25 years old here. I've kissed girls, sucked on their nipples, even rubbed pussy but I've never had sex.
I don't know how I did it but I did. All the aforementioned happened with a severe left-leaning girl while I was an openly right. What does that make me?

>CS degree
>Incel
I am shocked!

An awkward memory for her. Don't fuck up again.

I'm proud to have posted ITT.

A virgin

I've gotten many (you)s too!

No you know posters are actually just waiting for a thread like this to vent out.

There is a little bit of truth here. I'll vape it, but I do it alone. My one party Chad buddy lives too far away to see often anymore

I remember taking a C++ class without a single fucking girl in it, not even the token asian girl most classes had.

Not too sure about that since I get texts from her even a year later.

But
I know I'm definitely this.

>Still haven't fucked her
Go and fuck her

I have hyperhidrosis lmao there's literally no hope for me. It's hell to even take public transport, I can literally forget about having any relationship whatsoever

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I'd rather be a wizard desu.

Wasn't worth my time in hindsight.

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I've literally noticed over the years that I'm starting to slouch and my hair just doesn't look right anymore. Women just passing me on the street are starting to really notice the fact that I'm not getting laid and all the women in my shrinking social circle have had straight up contempt for me for at least a year now. I've lost most of my sex-haver powers and there's little else to hold on to.

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How fucking new are you to imageboards?

what does it mena :)

can't you get him to help you out? he should be able to hook you up with at least a lower tier slut.

Don't worry lads, the day of Retribution is near

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Find a girl who's also a water elemental.

Will it work, bros?

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Based

Ten years ago we used to think of Japan's attitude to sex as special, now we realise it was just ahead of the curve.

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Of course not. It's shocking how easy it is for someone to be born with something totally out of their control and have it ruin their life before it even began, even something as simple as being born with brown eyes.

About fucking time

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