Denis Villenueve’s Dune Film to Gender Swap Liet Kynes

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>have a source material all ready
>change something for the sake of it
why is it so fucking hard to follow something that is already done?

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But why?

And? He's one of the characters that exist to drive the plot along. literally doesn't fucking matter unless you're a whiny manchild

This shit is dead on arrival.

Is this director that whines about the US having immigration laws when he wins awards?

They all do that.

>literally doesn't fucking matter unless you're a whiny manchild
But why? I understand some changes are neccessary when adapting material from different forms of media but genderswapping Keynes seems...unnecessary. Explain it to me, I want to be invested in the vision. Why?

who?

>black woman
>changed to white man
>from a French-Canadian director

Well that's interesting...

>it doesn’t matter.. but we’re going to do it anyway

>bounding into comics

isn't this one of those gay comicsgate "fandom menace" sites

You have to explain Zendaya somehow. At least colonizing is better than blacking.

In my opinion every established character in movie history should be slowly phased out and replaced by women of colour.

Who the fuck cares, it's not even one of THE main characters. Wait till you actually see the movie to start shitting on it.

i'll give him a pass on this since he didn't ruin blade runner.

>only source is some random site no one's ever heard of
sounds legit

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books and movies are not the same ?

Well they lost my money now.

If it doesn't matter, then why the fuck do they have to do it anyway? Also okay, genderswapping is one thing but they couldnt come up with something that isn't as brown as my morning turd?

It matters because forced diversity is shit and always results in a bad movie.

Because studio jews wouldn't give money for the project unless niggers were included. That's the only reason this shit happens. It's all forced by the studios.

Hype kill

t. Dennis

I'm ok with this because novel Liet is not young and handsome. If they gender swap a young and handsome character then I'll REEEEE like there's no tomorrow.

The whole point of the fucking character is that he's some Hippy Scientist that Went Native, and totally supports the Fremen.

No of that works with a Black Woman.
Are they going to have her go all "WE WUZ KANGS N SHIT" about spice and sandworms????

THEURE KILLING US WE HAVE NO DOOM WE HAVE NOTHING LEFT NO CULTURE We ARE DYIIIIIING

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>Denis Villenueve’s Dune Film to Gender Swap Liet Kynes

Dropped.

>all the retards falling for this low level clickbait from a literal comicsgate website

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Kill yourself faggot scum

>committing suicide over a james bond movie

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I want to kiss that boy.

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Wasn't Kynes just a self insert of Frank Herbert because he was a raging narcissist asshole?

I don't think so. Marty is probably his self-insert.

This is fine. Who cares about some side character anyways. It doesn't change the story at all.

Or Daniel. Or both.

Even small details contribute to the greatness of a film. Shoehorning in awkward diversity caricatures is a good sign that there will be additional incongruous nonsense.

Forced diversity would be rewriting the character just so they can be black. It would be if they made the entire house atreides black for some fucking reason.

They wanted to add some diversity and it won't cause any ripples so stop bitching

>genderswaps character that gets tricked by the Harkonnens and left alone to suffer outside with no stillsuit before being eaten by a maker, based Denny putting thots and niggers in their place

Bless the maker and his water. May his passage cleanse the thots from this world

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Studio execs made Honest Denis include more womyn of color as per the usual quota and he decided to only put them in non-major roles because he's honest as fuck and also a true artiste.

Maybe this change will be for the better? The actress who is playing her(him?) is talented and bound to put on a good performance.

Kill yourself

no you

>24 retweets
>so lads this tweet is blowing up
lmao

Kynes has one of the most iconic/prophetic lines of the series and tells the Fremen it would be terrible for them to fall into the hands of a "hero" (in this case a foreign, noble, white man). Of course, this theme only becomes relevant in the later books
Make is that what you will. It's actually kinda woke and not just arbitrary.

If they do this, they should fire Zendaya and recast Chani as a femboy, it's only fair.

jews

^this

>against all better judgment...I like this user

Dishonesty

This. It means fidelity will take a backseat, so expect other jarring foolishness. Things like this only serve to break immersion and thus ruin the enjoyment, regardless of whether the character itself matters.

>WE WUZ FREMEN N SHEEIT

>whiney manchild
Projection.
A nigger needs to be shoehorned into every peice of modern media nowadays or twitter chimps out.

>It doesn't matter so stop bitching
>Okay if it doesn't matter why change it
>Fucking shut up incel

if they had to do it to explain chani it should've been idris elba

>rewriting the character just so they can be black
There is nothing in the books that tells us Liet Kynes is *not* black, but he must be a man for two reasons:
> he is Chani's dad
> he leads the Fremen, who only accept male leaders
Race is quite irrelevant in the Dune universe because nobody knows what people will look like 22 millennia from now. There are very few physical descriptions in Dune - Leto I is brown, Duncan Idaho is dark and handsome, some Bene Gesserit women are blonde. What *is* important is gender: all Bene Gesserit are women, all Bene Tleilax are men, the Kwisatz Haderach is a man, and Fish Speakers are women. They could cast lots of black actors and it would still be faithful to the books. What they shouldn't do is genderswap Paul, for example.

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR NIGGER SHIT.

they needed more niggers and women for the quota, so they choose to fill it with one character

>the scientist who discovers the importance of the sand worms with the Dune ecosystem
>unimportant

he is not like that Heimdall shit.

>Race is quite irrelevant in the Dune universe
Dude... there's so much discussion about race consciousness and preserving specific bloodlines (which is essentially eugenics)

Triggered much, white boy? The ultimate Chad in the universe, a commander born to breed with countless women, Duncan Idaho, is BLACK.
> The face remained somewhat round, but darker and with slightly flattened features. High cheekbones formed shelves for eyes with definite epicanthic folds. The hair was black and unruly.

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Will Hollywood finally drop Dishonest Denis when this flick tanks?

The Bene Gesserit breeding programs are never about race. They're about preserving Other Memories from female ancestors (not white ancestors or black ancestors or Chinese ancestors) until the Kwisatz Haderach will be born to access male and female ancestors' memories. Even specific groups such as Zensunni wanderers, Jews or Tleilaxu aren't mentioned to be "racially conscious", but united by an ideology.

but they are about gender this is right make kynes w/e race you want but he is suppose to be a man for many reasons

>literally doesn't fucking matter
lmfao they can never respond to "then it doesn't matter if it stays the same" lmao leftists are a fucking joke man hahaha

Human race consciousness not black/white/yellow/brown race.

Shouldn't Fremen be played as Arabs? They are sand people.

So you don't think renewing your scattered inheritance through the infusion of bloodlines and jihad carries any racial undertones?

You need to kill yourself you fucking shill. You're the problem. Please die.

really shocking cutting-edge stuff and so new and surprising

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Doesn't all of this diversity in movies just make me hate black people more? Yes, yes it does.

The way the casting unions work they have to do this, how can you all be posting on Yea Forums and not know how this works?

If you have a unionized casting director (they all are) on your movie or series they will do this, if you like it or not.

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Glad they killed dunemake before it came out.
I guess we still have lynch kino.

>dunemake
What's that?

Well, fuck. I was looking forward to this movie. Fucking jews I swear

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So they decided to ruin Dune too

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Why do they always turn white characters into black ones? Why is it never white -> asian/hispanic/arabs/etc?

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it's fake, retards

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>They wanted to add some diversity and it won't cause any ripples so stop bitching
The fact that they're doing it purely to push an agenda is what causes the ripples. You need to stop.

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>According to my trusted source
this is basically just trolling in article form

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not accelerationist enough

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lol who cares goyim, just close your eyes, it's irrelevant, what you worried about?

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Why does Yea Forums believe any retarded twitter post and takes it as fact?

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Why is hollywood so obsessed with these ugly monkeys?

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It doesn't matter how little the changes are you give an inch and they'll take a mile.

I think it says more about the industry that it's such an easily believable thing than it does about posters who believe it.

lmao based han

Gee i don't know. Its a mystery

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I don't buy it, everyone from the entire cast noted how Villeneuve is going absolutely by the book and by the book only, that it's a straight adaptation.

Yet another classic sci-fi franchise goes into the trash.
They soon going to run out of properties to ruin

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Why are you such a gullible retard that you believe a singular twitter post?

You have to understand that Hollywood is first a propaganda machinery and second a business. They are absolutely willing to make a loss with these movies along the anti-white message is spread

Yeah it's totally a stretch
see

None of those come exclusively from a single twitter post from an obscure comic book manchild blog and nowhere else.
The actress Sharon Duncan-Brewster is most likely playing the character of Shadout Mapes

We still have Warhammer 40k

fook mate looks like me (aussie)

Kill yourself reddit nigger

The point is its not a stretch to think Hollywood will fuck up yet another iconic character by putting some ugly baboon in.
Also, STOP trying to apologize for cultural vandalism

>manchild
buzzzzzzzzzzzzworrds like this is how you let everyone know you're a stupid faggot

Not so fast goy

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That's a fresh take.

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>another iconic character
ahhh yeseah Liet Kynes, such an unforgettable iconic character.
>putting some ugly baboon in.
Even the lying twitter post is merely speculating which actor/actress is playing the character, but the only thing that matters is you seeing the picture and that's it, triggered beyond belief.
She's playing Shadout Mapes 99%

Comic books are for manchildren, that's a fact.

theyre for actual children

>ahhh yeseah Liet Kynes, abloo bloo
Its not my fault you're a literate faggot whos never touched a book
>She's playing Shadout Mapes 99%
How about no niggers at all?
Seriously, kill yourself, you worthless scumbag

The jew strikes again.

Not in the Duniverse. Probably the concept of "different human races" is as alien to 10,191 AG humans as cannibalism is to current humans.

Hollywood demands a diversity quota for every single movie now.

>Negro in the cast
Dropped

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With Jews you lose.

What show or movie do you watch that does not have a black actor in it?

Surprise surprise :)
deadline.com/2019/07/frank-spotnitz-warhammer-40000-games-workshop-1202647623/
> Spotnitz has described himself as "half- Jewish".

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give me one single reason why there should be no black people in Frank Herbert's Dune

The prisoner

>no niggers in Dune
you have to be joking

Because I don't want to see fat lipped apes in my space opera.

>only watches very old movies
kek

Pretty pissed at this. Dune is a masterpiece and for fucks sake there are already hundreds of extremely powerful women in there. Genetically speaking humanity has become a bunch of mutts, so sure Duncan being Asianish ok. The fremen being Arab eh I guess. But chani is supposed to be fucking red headed. I had high hopes for an adaption that’d be kino, but I’m having strong doubts with each bit of info. It’s a shame that such a masterwork of a book series never got its final book. And a shame Jodorowskys dream never came to.

Give me one reason why they should. Negroes are repulsive and ruin any movie their shoehorned in

Fremen are practically bedouins. There are many Arabic and Muslim themes in the novel. You expecting all those literal sandnig characters to be played by pale norwegians or something only points at how utterly dumb you are.

that's a tv show you stupid nigger faggot

Because the book has muslim sandnigs in them?

>But chani is supposed to be fucking red headed
wow that is really hard how could a person possibly change their hair color

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>watches only very old tv shows
kek

Because it's not internally consistent. If this is 10,000 years (at least) in the future and planets have been settled by people long, long ago, then they should be racially consistent. Make the Fremen all black or all white or all brown. It's illogical to believe that a homogenous people who have existed for so long would still have racially distinct people. It's highly implausible to even believe that, by then even humans in general would still have distinct races.

If the message is that we continue into this mixed future, then everyone is just some roughly similar shade of brown. But they won't do that. They'll have lily white people beside tar black people and pretend that somehow there are still races. It makes no sense in the context of the universe unless you say that they branched into new distinct types after settling a world thousands of years before, in which case each planet would have its unique race, but still be the same within.

Are you retarded? Arabs aren't negros.

The casting is pretty based so far. The only black people are Fremen which makes sense. The actress in OP is playing Shadout Mapes.
Aside from this pic there are a handful of Sardaukar Soldiers, Atreides Soldier, Leto Officer, Hawat Specialist and First Trooper credited too and they are all decent acting white males.

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>You expecting all those literal sandnig characters to be played by pale norwegians
Nope thats just you strawmanning. I don't mind Arabs or Asians but when they put litteal monkeys in movies i'm done with it

Yes, one is words and the other is pictures.

But we dont want diversity. Multiculti societies are doomed to balkanization and civil war. We dont need it.

>literally doesn't fucking matter unless
THEN WHY CHANGE IT? if it DOES NOT MATTER then why bother changing it!?
clearly it matters to you enough to change it, and it matters enough for people to notice

silly user anon nobody anywhere cares what Yea Forums muttcels think, let alone in positions of authority

it's fiction he can do whatever the fuck he wants

>The only black people are Fremen which makes sense
No it doesn't.
>but they live in the desert and sheet

Have you even read Dune? It's literally "multiculti society" the book.

>Give me one reason why they should
- it's set 22000 years into the future, that's 22 millennia of human intermixing and evolution (by comparison, blonde people only started to appear 14 millennia ago)
- there are few descriptions of character appearances, but the few of them that are described indicate lots of diversity: they include brown skin (Duke Leto I Atreides), dark skin (Duncan Idaho), manlets (Tylwyth Waff), tall men (Bashar Miles Teg), blonde bimbos (Princess Irulan Corrino), etc
- so not only does Herbert not rule out black people, he gives us hints that people in the far future are very diverse, and "races" aren't discussed even once, so it's a non-issue for them

Dune will trigger absolutely everyone.
First it will trigger for the inclusion of muslims and blacks, then it will trigger twitter when they watch the film and see all those muslim and blacks BTFO by superior white males.

the world literally would've ended up a far greater place to be in if we'd helped the National Socialist Worker's Party enact The Final Solution

>brown skin (Duke Leto I Atreides), dark skin (Duncan Idaho),
That must be your head cannon you stupid nigger. They are tanned at best.

Leto I
>“...a tall man, hawk-faced, dark of skin and hair...Beside the man walked a youth with the same dark hair, but rounder in the face. The youth seemed small for the fifteen years Kynes knew him to have.”

Duncan Idaho
>“Idaho’s dark, round face was drawn into a frown. His hair, curling like the fur of a black goat...”

user, the population of the Corrino/Atreides empire is in the trillions. Muad'Dib killed 61 billion people in his jihad. Even if separate populations - say the Tleilaxu or the Fremen, have been living in the same planet for millennia, it's not true that they would arr rook same. Humanity has evolved from a few thousand individuals who were left alive after the Toba eruption 70000 years ago, and all kinds of races spawned from those 20k something humans. "Let us end racism by fucking each other until we're all the same colour" is a liberal arts sophism, biology doesn't work like that. White or black people don't disappear when they're left alone with brown people for a long time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearing_blonde_gene
This isn't even taking into account genetic manipulation or eugenics (Tleilaxu, Bene Gesserit, etc).

>dark skin
That's tan, Leto is of Greek descend.
>curling like the fur of a black goat
Scotch brite nog hair is not curls.

>but muh millennia

>That's tan, Leto is of Greek descend.
Yes, and he's played by Oscar Isaac who looks closer to that Mediterranean type.
Duncan is played by Momoa.

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Good logic, logicalbro69

> someone has "his trusted source" and posted it on Twitter so it must be true
also the big change wouldn't be that Liet is black but that he's changed into a woman, unless you believe that the standard civilised human is a white man

>standard civilised human is a white man
That goes without saying

>all those muslim and blacks BTFO by superior white males
Did you even read Dune?

dune won't trigger anyone because it will come and go in a week like br2049 and tron legacy

Elfin features as well. She’s a terrible choice based on her description in the novel. But you’re probably a fucking capefaggot so fuck off

> he saw an elfin face, black pits of eyes
> She had a full head of tawny red hair
She'll be ok if they fix that hair.

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It was Frank Herbert's self-insert.

>instead of hiring some jew, we hired some black
Why care?

I wanna puke every time I see her mongrel face.

It's Jews spitting in the face white audiences, taunting them to complain about blackwashing. It's them symbolically saying, "We are going to replace you, and there is nothing you can do about it."

Jews get off on that shit.

>White

The Fremen are literal Arabs in the books.

> adaptation of a novel where at most 3 characters are described as light skinned or white
> WHY AREN'T ALL ACTORS WHITE, BLOODY JEWS

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No characters are black.

Go woke

It's more about Jews forcing niggers into shit where they don't belong. It's all so tiresome.

That's a self-defeating argument. If it's unnecessary, why not?

No one is saying that. At all. People are even saying that making the Fremen Arab would be fine. Strawman much?

Source: Ass, Your (2019). Herbert doesn't specifically say that a character is black or Asian. But he doesn't say either that all characters are white. From the first book, the only character that is specifically a blonde white person is Irulan. You may infer that Shaddam IV is white too because he's her dad, but that's it.
"Forcing" black characters where they don't belong would be making Oda Nobunaga or Catherine the Great black. Read Dune before you jump into conclusions that black people don't exist in that universe.

>According to my trusted source, Liet Kynes, the appointed Judge of the Change during the transition of the planet Arrakis between House Harkonen and House Atreides, will be a female instead of the traditional male from Frank Herbert’s historic Dune novel
So you may ask ok, they genderswapped him, why black?
>As to who could be playing Liet Kynes, my source speculates it will be actress Sharon Duncan-Brewster. She is credited onIMDBas having a role in Dune, but they don’t detail which specific role she is playing.
Obviously, the title and image itself is mostly clickbait, since this is a clickbait site
Idk about his "source" so this can either be legit or a "my dad works at Nintendo" type of deal

>175 replies
>no one has posted screenshots from that one flash game

YALL SLIPPIN

What im more interested in is, who the fuck managed to find a literally who article in a literally who site?

Reminder that /pol/ is always right.

I don't know shit about Dune but I'm INSANE WITH ANGER bros.

I sure am glad /pol/ predicted Ron Paul winning, he is the only decent US po-
Oh wait

was there ever a female to male swap? Or non white to white? I can't remember any

Because there's a little bit of ginger in his beard.

based virtue signaling user

Guys I’m starting to hate niggers

Here we go again.

Each year I save more and more money by not watching this tripe. I then spend that money on gifts for those I love instead. I think I am much richer in life for it. Thanks Hollywood.

Film won't be eligible for tax breaks and awards without lots of blacks and women in it. US law.

>balkanization
>civil war
Haha silly user. I'll be retired LONG before that happens and I can just leave the country with my money.

>Read Dune before you jump into conclusions that black people don't exist in that universe.
I have. They don't.

Oh come on, this is just getting silly now.
But seriously I ain't even mad because I haven't read the book yet even though I have it. Don't know if I give to shits even after I've read it.
Just be cool guys, there's literally no reason to lose your mind over media.

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Would you give her your "water", Yea Forums?

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Read the books. Malky and Hwi are explicitly described as black skinned.

>slowly
I disagree. It should be sudden and jarring.

You never read the books. Stop lying.

fpbp

relevance? It's an adaptation, so follow what you're adapting.

Well shit. This is actually one of a very few upcoming movie i was genuinely excited about.
God damn Jews

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That's objectively incorrect. "why not?" is not an argument, it is on the one proposing an action to provide a reason, not on others to disprove something.

It's bullshit according to @DuneNews. But enough to get /pol/tard paranoia in motion.

If it doesnt matter why change it.

Who is pushing this changes? (Rhetorical question).

dishonest roles for dishonest directors

>non white to white?
21. The IRL students were chinks.
Then there's classic Hollywood with white Apaches, white Genghis Khan, blonde Cleopatra, etc.

Ghost in the Shell

>all these replies
>no actual source
the state of Yea Forums

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"Warning: This rumor is NOT TRUE. Don’t believe everything on the internet, people. #Dune"
twitter.com/DuneNews/status/1156244018994581506

Blader runner 2049 was shit

>Quoting unofficial fan account

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No U

To be honest whatever the retards won, i just do stuff i enjoy now and watch some reruns of old shows.

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this

Not even the best actor in this shit flick can save it. This movie is dead on arrival.

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OMG SO BRAVE!!!

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There is only one "trusted source" of OP's article. Which is basically an elaborate shitpost.

>There is only one "trusted source"
According to some random fan account.
This is most likely insider knowledge that was leaked.

>most likely insider knowledge
based on what? how credible is that website and that author? not that guy btw

VILLENUEVE!!!

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>not just gender swapping but blacking, too
>for a character with daddy issues
Guess I won't be paying to watch this after all.

>Josh Brolin as Halleck
>Chadmoa as Idaho
>Bardem as Stilgar
Yeah, I'm thinking it's based.

you absolute retard

They wouldn't just post random easy to refute BS out of the blue. This information is leaked. They obviously won't dox their source.

they're literally whos, why the fuck do you trust this?
>This information is leaked
source?

Based. I wish i got this many (you)s....I'm gonna try: I like black people and jews

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>they're literally whos
Small and growing News Sites wouldn't throw away their credibility for some random shitposting.
>source?
Again they won't dox their source since they want more leaks like this in the future.

how do you know an inexperienced journalist wouldn't fall for some shitty ruse? why do you so sure of his credibility?

also, why the fuck wouldn't this leak further? it's ONE literally who website

Does Denis now have more pull in hollywood than Nolan? I mean compare the cast of their upcoming films.

Imagine sitting next to a Villeneuve fan. The smell as he rubs the cheeto dust into his body in preparation for viewing his "based" movie. The flutter of his fedora as he tips ecstatically as Deakins pans shots in great numbers like one of his video game cutscenes. The sound of him vibrating at the hot pocket resonance every time "based" meme actor is on screen.

Blacking is fine in Dune, unless it's specified for a character, gender swapping is not.
> this fucking thread
Read the books you spastics

user Nolan has a budget of 250 million dollars for that film, he can cast whoever the fuck he wants.

DROPPED, if they're gonna change something like this, they're gonna change other shit. I had faith in this movie, but fuck it.

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Why are you such a gullible retard that believes any twitter post?

>WokeDune
Hard pass

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Yep. Welcome to the world of million dollar niggers, where decision makers on these productions will legitimately forfeit millions of dollars in potential profit just so they can force a black person into the face of the audience. It shows that the quality of the story is not the top priority. It shows that the subject/source material is being interpreted through twisted and distorted eyes.

It shows that you're a two digit IQ mental midget who believes any twitter post out there

>It shows that the quality of the story is not the top priority. It shows that the subject/source material is being interpreted through twisted and distorted eyes.
t. has never read Dune, otherwise you wouldn't write this. It's not like they gender swapped the Bene Gesserit or the Bene Tleilax, whose gender is a plot point. We don't know what races exist in the Duniverse or how many people are black because it's a non-issue. Whereas being a man or a woman *is* a big deal.

Whoa, they are so brave! I can't wait for the transgender characters reveal.

>imagine going through life constantly being triggered by inane shit
lmao

Pathetic cope. Kys

This is too good. The quality of the story matters most of all? Why are you then getting so ass blasted about a casting decision? Because she's black and a woman, that's why. You're fuking joke dude.

>lmao
dilate

have kids

He's right, you dumbass. Black Liet-Kynes doesn't contradict the source material. At all. However, female Liet-Kynes does contradict the source material, so if Villeneuve is as autistic as we all think, the OP is most likely bullshit.

>Because she's black
Yes negros are repulsive. What's your point?

popular fetish (like blackversity or sitting on a hedgehog carpet) points for mrktng dpt.

>First Zendaya
>Now this
Looks like he doesn't want my ticket money or something...

>sitting on a hedgehog carpet
More examples of this? Sounds comfy.

Zendaya won't have 5 minutes of screentime

This. This movie only covers half of the first book.

seems questionable
the more released about this film the more I decide not to see it opening night and instead wait to hear from other people how it went

What the fuck. Is this real?

This doesn’t even make sense. Black people don’t like sci-fi

>Black people don’t like sci-fi
Black people don't like fantasy tho

>My source tells me Kynes is described as “a tall, lean woman in her forties who exudes pride and intelligence. She has sandy hair, a sun-tanned face, and the shocking blue eyes of spice saturation.”

Did any of you read the article? This doesn’t sound like a black. Blacks don’t have sandy hair or sun tanned skin

>Race is quite irrelevant in the Dune universe
no it's not theres huge divides between fremen, harkonans, and caladanians which each clearly come from places and religions from our time. all of the mythology of arrakis is seeped in islamic stuff. by the last book theres even literal (((jews))) for fuck sake