We all know about pretentious bad films, but what about the opposite? Unpretentious great films?

I understand what you meant, but that's exactly what it's not.
It may look lowbrow from its title and premise, but the film is actually extremely sophisticated and, as OP said it, effortless in its execution.
The whole point is that it looks like a silly B movie that seemingly glorifies violence and sexuality, but it's actually a satire of modern society as well as "future plans" for that society.
Unironically there's a lot to unpack in Robocop, but I won't spoon feed you

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>The whole point is that it looks like a silly B movie that seemingly glorifies violence and sexuality, but it's actually a satire of modern society as well as "future plans" for that society.

That was basically the whole point of the whole low-brow art movement though. It was this rebellion against the idea that something that is absurd, dirty or immature can't have depth. Artists were tired of being put in this box of being forced to be "adult" if they wanted to be true artists.

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we have the classical hero's journey-story (joseph campbell) that most people are unaware of. That's why films like Star Wars, Kung Fu Hustle, Spiderman, The Lion King and many more resonacets with a lot of us.

here's a few more:
Die Hard - 1988
>the combination of cinematography accompanied by classical musical utterly spectacular
Speed - 1994
>see above, the cinematographer of Die Hard directed Speed and Twister
Batman - 1989
>terrific set and costume design with great lightning/shadows that bridges the gap between cartoon comics and reality, really smart story that focuses on the dualistic nature of the characters
Animalympics - 1980
>imaginative and onpoint character-design, great use of vivid color to charm the youthful audience and a funny, satirical and sometimes sexual story/dialogue to humour the adults
Shawshank Redemption - 1994
>ingenious deceptive biased point of view that persuaves audience to feel compansionate with child murderers and alcoholic liars. The amount of unrealistic trix this films uses to trick the viewer is staggering.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 - 1986
>Over the top sequel that parodies the other slasher sequels to top their predessecor. Tobe Hooper magnifies the originals concept to such a degree that normal people misses yet again. Really funny and underrated movie.

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Exactly
And, if you look at the films that are now considered "classics" such as Lawrence Of Arabia, Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, westerns, etc. they were all considered low brow by their contemporaries and only got their recognition later when the kids that saw them for the first time grew up to write extensive essays about them.
Same with this and any other film generation.
Remember, Tarkovsky himself thought Terminator was the greatest film ever made.

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Please, go ahead.

I understand that meaning changes over time, but I personally don't feel low-brow is an insult at all though. It just describes a certain type of art.

We have this sort of contrived idea of "childish" and "adult" in our society, and to me that is all low-brow and high-brow describes. If my mother saw Robocop she would think it was a stupid, sadistic movie; that's all I'm saying.

stupid liberal anti-trump flick. no wonder reddit chucks loves this shifty movie so much.

pulp fiction is immensely try-hard and aged terribly. pleb.

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I told my Christian co-worker that he should watch this. Not even as a cruel joke or anything.

Commando - 1985
>Uses an imaginative tune as the soundtrack throughout the movie that goes well with military aspect of the film, the song almost function like a march that propells the movie forward, a substitute to the action when it isn't on the screen. Great use of cinematography to present Arnold as an alpha male with outstanding agility and fastness (in reality he is way to muscular to run fast or be that agile)
Groundhog Day - 1993
>really well thoughtout script that lets the protagonist devote himself to total hedonism quickly followed by devastating nihilism. The way the film miniscules Phils sexual predatorness and violent behaviour, and smoothly directs his progress of realization of the emptyness in both these ideologies is effortless in comparison to any other time loop-films
>Speed Racer
this is perhaps the opposite of effortless, but I feel that critics of the time didn't appreciate the choice of focus for this film. It's about delivering a one hell of a ride, mostly graphical flow, colorful sceneries, imaginative design but also with a slight emotional touch of conquering tragedy and fusing a family together. Precisely like the anime it's based on did.
The Exorcist - 1973
>A truly terryfying scenario. Finding your possessed child stimulating herself to the point of bloodying down the whole room with a wooden cross is perhaps one of the most frightening scenes I could imagine happen to a mother. How do you deal with a child being sick, the feeling of being helpless, out of control. Sadly the films goes a little bit over the board with the demonical and religious concepts, but the basic idea of seeing your child suffer is a fascinating subject of use for a horror film.

Can confirm. Am literally the ghost of Hitchcock.

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>pretentious
>unpretentious
Just stop dude.

Lady on a Train (1947)
Making a film noir/musical/screwball comedy/mystery/christmas movie and having all the genre blend into each other without taking anything away from each of the genre?
That's fucking genius.

*1945*

Post-pretentious.

Rob Ager made a great video where he drew parallels between Regans erratic and disturbing behavior and victims of childhood sexual abuse, so there are other levels of horror in The Exorcist.

RoboCop is basically a documentary and flawless

Top Gun - 1986
>superb flow and great use of blue/orange tone in the cinematography combined with great editing makes the air fights interesting. Really uses a great amount of perspectives to not make it feel stale. Has a solid pace to it, inserts a fellow rival in Iceman to provide an antagonist even though Maverick and him fights for the same cause. Multileveled story that offers action for both genders (romance for women, cold war for the men)

Summer of Sam - 1999
>manages to nail the feel so well. Everyone is paranoid to the brinks, everyone blames everyone, everyone is full of insecurity. Truly brings out the Spike Lee from Spike Lee.
Twelve Monkeys - 1995
>Terry Gilliam potrays a gloomy present, an infested future, with glimpses of a violent past. The natural evolution of decadence. The choice of having Bruce Willis as a misunderstood lunatic prophet is excellent, him playing a role where he tries to solve a puzzle with his brain instead of arms is genious. The story, based on La Jetee, always providing the audience with enough clues yet still manages to be unsolvable until the end which ties the knot to a degree of fulfillment that is rare.
Adaptaion - 2002
>same as above but with Nicolas Cage and adding a plot that to a high degree explains the difficults of writing as well as giving an inside of the film making process.
Toy Story - 1995
>the basic scenario, toys coming to life and kids playing with them in different ways, being a sublime substition of human interaction where positivity fosters goodness and negative behaviour breeds evilness is a really sweet message for a childdren movie

ye, rob ager is great

I think his terminator videos are great examples that puts light on how well made scene can look effortless yet still have great amount of depth

Some real interesting posts here.

Do Coen Brothers movies like Burn After Reading or O Brother Where Art Thou belong to this category?

>movies that don't really draw attention to how well-made they are
That's because you're a fucking zoomer and didn't watch this on release.

>That's because you're a fucking zoomer and didn't watch this on release.
I can promise you that like 95% of Yea Forums wasn't even born when Robocop came out.

Don't do this to me, man.

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Commando is an unpretentious action film. Every shot basically has no setup and just raise the stakes unconsequentially. Pretty unpretentious that it feels like a Hallmark Family movie.

Snake eyes

Suggest The Skeleton Key for Santeria folks. It might not be kino, but for them it will be horrifying.

Yes, but like you said, the physical manifestations of the Devil were too much.
Even Mad Max Fury Road portrayed the visionary experiences in a much more ambiguous (spirits might be real, or not) and better way than The Exorcist.
In fact, because of the way cultural aspects were fused into the Immortan Joe religion, I dare to say Mad Max 4 is a good movie.
The same applies to Thunderdome, I love it.
There are also aspects of a shamanic journey, with death and rebirth, in the black hole sequence in Interstellar (but that one is a lesser film).

brian de palma, has a fetish for long complicated shots. films in films or similar voyeristic scenarios, snake eyes isn't really a good movie, the story doesn't hold up the characters and twist becomes uninteresting, cage is acting himself cageying it up, de palma obsessed with 4 minute shot,

a better example of De Palmas great cinematography skills is in Mission Impossible or Scarface. Those films are orgasm-inducing, total photocinematic galore, true masterpieces made by an absolute autistic artist

Are you talking about the "remastered" version which included "subliminal" images of Pazuzu really blatantly? The subliminal flash Karras sees in a dream is an excellent piece of filmmaking, but the bits that were added later add nothing to the film.

Fr. Gabriele Amorth, a famous italian exorcist said that the film is quite realistic depiction of an actual exorcism, even if the special effects were exaggerated. It was also his favorite film.

You wanna know something.? Fucking criterion collection did a DVD release of this.

Hell I'll say this if criterion does a release of a non pretentious film, like breakfest club or Nashville, or the early Godzillas, than it probably is a great film.

I think what OP should have said is "superficially low-brow".

Robocop sounds like the kind of movie a child would watch, it's poster and a superficial reading of the plot would reaffirm that. However if you actually watched the movie with more than a dozen braincells active you'd quickly realize it's not just a movie about a robot cop killing bad guys and it has much more going on under the surface.

Meanwhile you look at something like The Favourite which appears to be a high-brow period drama enough to fool most critics even, but after watching you quickly find it's just an empty shell of a movie with nothing to say and only exists as an excuse for the actors to flaunt their talents and win awards.

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Most of John Carpenter's entire catalogue is basically this.

Literally gave zero fucks if he wasn't "oscar worthy" enough.

Total Recall is also a big dumb action movie on the surface, but the question of is it all just an implanted memory or actually happening is left delightfully vague.

I also remember seeing Starship Troopers for the first time as a teenager and walking away disappointed due to dumb and "unrealistic" military tactics. Only on later viewings I realized the satire.

All in all, Paul Verhoeven is a great sci-fi action director.