How will Game of Thrones be remembered in 20 years?

As the last mostly white fantasy show where the only black male recurring character had no dick and all of the important characters were white people who were white in the source material and not brownwashed

in this age and time shows come and go. game of thrones is already pretty much forgotten. like most of the modern hit shows.

started off phenomenal. ruined by social justice from S5 on.

>i am mad that a story based on european fantasy is mostly about european people

What a way to live.

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The show's popularity mostly hinged on memes, shock moments, fan theories filling in the blanks and speculating like a choose your own adventure book. There was almost nothing of substance actually there, just spectacle

I’m not mad, I’m saying we will remember it fondly for that reason even if everyone wants to shit on it now

I got bored of it after the Mexican guy got his head bashed in. Kinda turned into a meandering mess after that.

Same way Lost will be

Seems like a typical (((deconstruction))) of Tolkien's work. Instead of an epic struggle of good and evil it's a petty struggle of asshole and dickhead full of tits and random murder.

That show Reddit hated because it didn’t adhere to realistic medieval cavalry formations (autism) and it subverted their expectations

Lmao @ brainlets who didn’t understand the throne melting scene and thought it was heavy-handed symbolism. I could explain it to you, but I won’t.

It's the show of the 10s, like Seinfeld was for the 90s

Bad bait, but at least you tried

This is what people on quora actually believe

that one unrealistic wannabe middle age show
that was boring af and had like 20 sex scenes in one episode so you dont sleep away

>It will also be the lodestone around D&D's necks for as long as they're in television
LMAO

that one fantasy show that killed the characters and showed tiddies. everyone was nuts about it until it ended badly

For failing. It could have been an epic to be remembered, but it was left in the hands of tone-deaf, mercenary hacks who robbed it ofall thematic depth and mythic resonance. Maybe someday we’ll get an adaptation that really does it justice.

This is the best bait you could muster? Fucking pathetic.

The show with the tits and dragons.

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Ultimately this show will not be remembered because it was a great tale or anything of that sort, just that it resulted in funny memes and soi reaction videos on YT. It just won't hold up as time goes on. If you view the entirety of it, it's just a test of masochistic nihilism, nothing more than random tits and dragons, it was never really building towards anything worth remembering in the decades to come.

it wont

>mom why'd you name me after a sociopath

I'll admit, I was a huge Stannisfag. I had hope the show'll have him come back at the last minute, but at this point I don't even care about ASOIAF, and if you have ASOIAF stand on its own as their characters against other franchises, you realize it doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Its only a few months since it ended, and I can legitimately say I stopped caring anything about its universe.

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>Why yes, little Dany is named for Daenerys of the House Targaryen, the First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Protector of the Realm, Lady Regent of the Seven Kingdoms, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons
>Regret? Dany was born in June of 2019

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>literally only one likeable character (tyrion)
>final 'winner' was literally only relevant in the first episode and did nothing since but nonsensical twists are cool apparently

>reddit the character
>likeable

The only 3 things I cared about before the season was a satisfying actually unique and cool resolution with the white walkers, stannis coming back somehow, and jonerys kinda

>tyrion
>only likeable character
not sure if relentless autism or just someone who didn't watch the show

>the only character who isn't either a complete retard or unreasonable asshole isn't likeable

>tyrion
>not a complete retard
nigger are you talking about the right characte?

He killed his own father because he fucked a whore he was in love with

Boobs.

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Seems reasonable

>>the only character who isn't either a complete retard or unreasonable asshole
but that's Davos, not Tyrion

You know what user?
that's fair

Ok honorless fag

It probably won’t be remembered
They really fucked the last season hard

>I'm gonna leave Shireen in a warzone with a witch who burns kingsblood then wonder what happened to her
>Not complete retard

GOT is more of an "experience" thing. The show itself is poo. It won't be remembered for very long.

Itll be remembered when someone says "Hodor" and the younger person goes "what you talking about?"

The Walking Dead will uniroinically be better remembered as the defining show of the decade.

Poorly. /thread

A show killed by jews and a lazy ass book writer who jerked off while his fans cried out

It's already forgotten.

Best-case scenario, if the books are ever finished, we'll get an extremely faithful animated adaptation.

>20 years later
>GRRM Finally finished the Winds of Winter
>fans buy the book
>Realize Stannis still burns his daughter in the books but with more dialog
Stannisfags btfo once again

Not at all. Normies have already forgotten.
Whenever I gaze into the endless abyss which is the average person's arbitrariness and blandness I am torn between some existential horror and a vague but joyful feeling that nihilism could be achievable and serve as a way out.

i already forgot all about it

>tfw you only got into the show this year but it still feels like you still wasted way too much time on this shitshow
Can't imagine watching this for a decade. Fuck my sister for getting me to watch it.

The last white hit TV show (for the most part). Much like Frozen will be the last all white animated movie, and Tom Brady will be the last white superstar athlete (or at least the last one who isn’t a complete SJW wigger).

The white world is shutting down. Go back and watch “Can’t Buy Me Love” to see what was taken from us

They literally only think about what they’re told to think about. They already forgot that women’s soccer is the most important sport in the world (but that’s what they felt for 4 weeks)

>and Tom Brady will be the last white superstar athlete (or at least the last one who isn’t a complete SJW wigger).
Chris Pratt?

as the normie cultural meme that it is

Pratt is probably the largest actor, wheras Brady is the last athlete

It will be seen as the highest form of art, especially the final season. A series that's all about building up expectations of greatness and then brutally knocking those expectations down, built up the best show on TV and then ended it with the worst final series that any major TV show has ever had

Pottery

same

i'll remember it for the cutest queen

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you cant tell your king that youre taking his daughter with you retard
he already lost a few fingers for stealing
taking his daughter will be his head

davos is a retard
>sure no problem tyrion that killed my only son we besties now

Do you remember 'Lost'?
So thats the answer.

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Based

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god i wish that were me

The same way as Lost: it won't.

obsessed.

Lost 2.0

That's why you don't tell him, canon davos puts his life on the line to do the right thing

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a warning about white women that want to free the world from cycle. they dont, they just want to be in charge.

Fuck off, lost has great characters and good rewatch value, the ending failed to satisfy but don't compare it to this shit

I barely even think about it anymore. There's prequels but I don't really care much

have cope

>Be with me. Build the new world with me, this is our reason. It has been from the beginning, since you were a little boy with a bastard's name, and I was a little girl who couldn't count to twenty. We do it together, we break the wheel together.

youtube.com/watch?v=hphmmWgEo4M [Open]

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Agree with you.
But people don't remember it anymore.

It wont be at all.

>in 20 years
"I've heard they're remaking GoT now that A Dream of Spring is around the corner. Luckily George Martin's entire brain algorithms fit two floppy discs and his cyberspace self has been printing out pages in regular intervals ever since his body died 19 years ago. Finally, we'll get to see if the old show got the finale right."

I would've just had sex with her.

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"I've heard the original actress of Tyene Sand is back as Olenna Tyrell in the remake. Hit the wall pretty hard, poor girl was quite the looker..."

It's so great the show became so shit and Emilia admitted to having suffered two strokes early on that all of Yea Forums stood up as one to protect her. Even linking arms with reddit in the process.

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I agree, Lost’s ending was bad, but it’s not bad enough to make the whole show not worth watching. I’ve rewatched Lost twice and recommended it to others, whereas now I’ll never rewatch or recommend GOT

I always thought about watching it, but I'm scared to because of what people say about it.

True.

I would've ditched that feast to go night riding with her

fuck danyfags

Big fad show with some decent content that had a terrible rushed ending.
It's already a huge influence on everything.

The whole Jon snow death cliffhanger us in everything now.

that bad huh?

"Peter Stringfellow's lord of the rings"

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Wasn't that the show about the book series where the author died before actually finishing it?

Who else gets resurrected at no cost and for no reason, when show and books had established before that death is everything but cheap even if you get back up?

That tax policies are more important than finishing your book 30 years after starting it

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however i want to remember it, but i probably won't

Watch Peter Dinklage talking about season 8. He was more Tyrion than season 6-8 Tyrion.

Truly tragic absolute waste of potential

youtu.be/NI37-_DTVSk

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Idk feels pretty based?

This makes absolutely no sense in the show, he's about to break out of prison but instead goes to see tywin for no reason at all, what to talk to him? There's zero chance of that working out well for him. The moment the show went to shit cutting out the tysha thing that was the reason he went to kill him

Based pic. Jaime and Cersei truly are the most fappable ship. I would jerk off to them every day of my life

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But read the lyrics user
>remember I will always love you
>as I claw your fucking throat away
>it will end no other way
Could've been kino if the writers weren't hacks

Reverse TNG
"It started off great and then got shitty. Only a few episodes to watch in the last two seasons."

Just re-read the chapter where Wex reveals to Davos Bran and Rickon are alive. What is Manderly's end game. Is he going to fuck over the Freys somehow?

Cutest psycho

I've already forgotten it, and I've seen every episode

I'm glad I never saw this fucking show

>being salty over casualties in an aggressive war
yeah thats not how it works chuckles

cant wait for this

This

They already moved on to movies, now they're gonna fuck up Star Wars even worse than it already is.

>Oh you killed my kid? Eh whatever it was war, nothing personal man let's go get a beer

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Proof that high production value television shows are financially viable.

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by the children who were named Khaleesi/Danerys

Why didn't Stannis just shadowbaby Renly after the Throne was won?

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I would have never named my daughter "Daenerys," but after season 8, maybe.

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It's a cool name

How bad is the LoTR series going to be? My expectations are extremely low

Daenerys is a cool name though

More than likely, worse than any of us can currently conceive.

No one will care how it ended. It will age well I think.

It won't be remembered in two years unless GRRM finally writes the damn books, in which case it will have a resurgence and then eventually die for good once everyone moves on.

They have cogman on the team, the dude who wrote dorne shit. And he's not even the worst of them

youtu.be/PQp2Oi7a3DI

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I just hope it doesn't taint its legacy, but knowing the current trends in the media..

Cute main character,shit ending

Worse than any of us can imagine. If you thought you were upset about the Witcher casting, you haven't seen anything compared to what they're going to do to butcher the LoTR in the name of diversity and tolerance.
Fortunately, we will always have the movies and there's nothing they can do to change that.

who could ever forget this? extremely profound stuff

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Nice joke.

It is but you know that's not how the parents feel, and THAT'S what I like

Why? we've done nothing to you. We just want to spread her love.

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i would feel even better after the episode 5 if my daughter were called Daenerys tbqhwyf

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I don't think one poorly written final season is gonna change their minds about a character they loved for years enough to name a kid after, especially now after the shock value worn off

God I wanted to massage her butt

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Like Lost is now

It's a nice butt to be honest

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ARF

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I miss it so much bros, even if it was shit at the end it was fun taking a dump on the bad episodes and being surprised with random kino

The cutest!

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You underestimate some people's pettiness

ye making up meme theories with people was more fun than actually watching desu

If you watched the series after a white girl gets raped by a turk then you're a cuck and eat jew shit.

I will remember it as the show that brought hordes of r*editors, pajeets and ESL shitskins who can't stop avatarfagging to Yea Forums

Dany a cute

>married woman having sex with her husband
>raped
lmao americans

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Cutest tyrant.

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As one of the most popular TV shows of all time. If Martin finishes ASOIAF, then the show may seem quite dated, like a stupid fan outing. If he doesn't, it will be his legacy.

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>not accepting to conquer the world through fire, blood, dragons, giant wolves and big armies with a cutie gf
What the FUCK was Jon's problem?

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>Patrician Choice
Kiss her then burn down King's Landing with her.

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>no one cared jon rode a fucking dragon

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Here's you tyrant brah

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I miss Rhaegal.

Nobody asking how Jon is able to ride a dragon is such lazy writing.

>What the FUCK was Jon's problem?
Seriously tho what the fuck

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D&D are retarded and don't know how to write characters convincingly.

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>no one outside valyrian niggers were able to fly dragons
>no one bothers to ask the northern bastard how he got a dragon
BRAVO
R
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V
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I guess Jon just walked out of the room and grabbed a cup of coffee after she said, let it be fear then. Could've just done this instead but OK.

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it will be a masterpiece the next year, i already think it is.

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>Jaime: Excuse me, Lord Snow, but how will you be on a dragon with Queen Daenerys? Only those with Valyrian blood can ride a dragon.

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>why yes I named my daughter Daenerys
>are you upset what they did to that character at the end of season 8?
>my daughter was born in June 2019

The show that made fantasy sexy and mainstream but had an enormously disappointing finish. Will mostly be known for its tits and shocking violence.

same as lost

A really good 7 season show

>there's actually normies out there who hate Season 8 yet defend Season 7

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Season 8 is worse than season 7 in every fucking way by orders of magnitude.

Season 8 is in its own tier of shitness

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this, literally will stretch the boundries of legacy destroying shit

Season 7 was boring as sin though. I liked the bit beyond the wall just because it got so ridiculous.
Season 8 had the bad writing and bad acting of Season 7 except they went all out and we got some ripper moments. The white walker ep was pretty good until the end imo, the bells was based too. I'm not in a hurry to rewatch either tho.

S7>5>6>8

S7 had comfy Jonerys and the hype of NK that S8 completely destroyed

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This opinion is objectively wrong

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>comfy Jonerys
kys fag
Season 6 was miles better than the other 3.

>Season 7 was boring as sin though
More entertaining than season 8.
>The white walker ep was pretty good until the end imo
The Long Night was fucking terrible. It's not even entertaining trash like Beyond The Wall. It just sucked in every way. There was no tension and the entire fucking fight was moronic. The ending was also horrible and a disservice to the entire series.
>the bells was based
More retarded shit. Cleganebowl was pointless, Varys trying to betray Dany was stupid, Jon continued to act like a cuck, and Arya stole screentime for no reason. Qyburn's death was funny, but that's it.

Season 8 was shit.

Nah

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This

It was comfy you absolute fucking nigger, tsundere Dany is a cute

Then D&D turned Jon into a fag and had him lead her on for an entire season.

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S6 is trash, people thought it was good at the time but it aged badly, cersei just blows everyone up and becomes queen just like that, north doesn't remember, battle of bastards was totally pointless, Arya in braavos was totally pointless and stupid, bran is just an exposition plot device and leading up to the Hodor thing, which ends up being meaningless anyway, plus Sam and randyl wasting screentime

ring da bells
ring da bloody bells

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I was not even convinced that either of the characters were meeting, there was zero chemistry, the only time they had an ounce of chemistry was in that Winterfell ep but that's it.
>also tsuundere
have sex you fucking pushover cuck

youtube.com/watch?v=r5krxJdnknE and youtube.com/watch?v=O-O8Er94TJI were kino though

>Refuse surrender a bunch of times
>Accept a generous truce then renege while they fight for you
>ambush war weary enemy who sacrificed to save you and kill her dragon
>Refuse another surrender and kill her friend
>OH NO SHE WON WE SURRENDER
Not how it works

Dilate, tsundere Dany is A CUTE

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So... what was Dagny's tax plan?

I like how the Kingsguard's sigil is a three eyed raven/crow now.

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>Battle of the Bastards
>kino
Pick one and only one.

And the show wanted us to feel bad for Cersei. Tyrion should have been killed on the fucking spot. Worthless fuck.

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Was that targ madness? Jon got thousands of his people killed breaking from his plan in that suicidal charge

One

I agree but it would have worked better if he was enraged out of his mind at least (like in the book), but they even cut that out to keep Tyrion as the brilliantly clever MLK-dwarf of the series

fpabp

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How did they fuck Littlefinger and Sansa that badly? I can't understand. Vayrs too. I can see Sansa becoming Queen, but they got her personality/strength all wrong because they fucked up Littlefinger. Littlefinger is someone trusted by EVERYBODY, not some obvious slimey fucker nobody trusts and is shady at plain view. His strength is he easily becomes besties with everyone, everyone underestimates him, and he's needed by everyone for being useful and friendly. Sansa has the same natural charisma, it's not that she's strong because she's a smug cold ice queen, but because she's gracious and courteous even in the face of her tormentors enough for everyone around her BUY her words. She won the favor of many Lannisters cousins who even forgot she was a 'traitor's daughter' because her flawless courtesy. It's a full display of a non-sexual feminine traditional power. It's like D&D didn't want anything so "feminine" to be strong. Vayrs' entire characterization and motivation was dropped and he looked like a walking meme.

More suffered but I was annoyed the three obviously intrigued oriented not action or "masculine" characters got bent by the plot because they can't write subtle ways of power.

seasons 1 through 4 was unironically amazing. you're retarded if you think otherwise.

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But TNG had an amazing ending that got ruined by the movies

BASED. Praise Blackwood House.

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Dany left all the Essos city go to shit because she didn't have one, as expected for a former beggar who didn't learn maths and spent formative years with a horde of pillage happy barbarians.

I can't say how it will be remembered, but this is how Game of Thrones should be remembered as a show.

The end of the series gave the fans exactly what they wanted, which is also what they didn't want.

When Danny burns Kings Landing and becomes a dictator, and she has an army of dickless brown men as her proxy warriors, and the man she wants doesn't love her, and everyone she's ever loved is murdered, either directly or indirectly by her choices, then the true nature of the social justice / subversive / anti-family / anti-logic / anti-wholesome becomes clear.

What does Arya achieve? She fucks off to another continent because she is too much of a butch tomboy to settle down. What does Jon Snow get? Exiled for putting the kingdoms ahead of himself. Who is put as the head of everything in the end? An emotionless cripple in a wheelchair.

This is what the fans deserve. You fucking deserved it all. This was how things were going to pan out. Any other way would be trite. I think the show is perfect in how it shows that there can be no happy ending WITHOUT FAMILY. Simple as that. You reject the notion of wholesome values and family, and honour, and justice, and everything that makes a society worth fighting for...and you get Westeros as it is at the end.

Delicious salt was mined the day of the finale.

t. GURM

This. The books won't be finished before GRRM dies and they'll fade away.

if makes you feel better, there's the theory tyrion (prototype) (varys and all war commanders and melissandre absorbido) is the winner.

Tyrion is an asshole in the novels. The show whitewashed him a lot, but can't be helped because Martin's writing is heavyhanded.

>let a bunch of chattel slavery cities go to shit
Not possible

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Isn't he counting to establish a regency through Rickon? Bloodraven also has a dragon egg, so he might give it to Bran and hatch an ice dragon.

This is perfect.

GOT has already aged horribly and it's only been a couple of months. Another 20 years and people will only use it as a meme when any show shits the bed so hard. Makes me smile every time I think about it. So overrated.

Knight of Seven Kingdoms and Winterfell were better than all Season Seven.

The cities were devastated because there was no economic plan set up by Dany. That's to show she's really an uneducated bint.

No

I want a series about them, fuck lardass unable to finish dunk & egg.

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No, most episodes of season 7 were better.

>literally nothing happens: the episodes
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA not to mention there's not even fucking payoff, so it's like completely boring filler in a rushed season. They literally all live afterwards thanks to ridiculous plot armor and go die stupidly somewhere else.

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One episode completely undid the whole series, was full of nonversations, cliffhangers that get unresolved, and filler scenes, and the other episode was full of nonversations, cliffhangers that get unresolved, filler scenes, and setup with side characters for the epic battle that ends up not paying off when no one does. In both of them nothing really substantial happens

Who would you cast as Bittersteel and Daemon?

I can see Michael Fassbender (or someone younger) as Bloodraven and Amanda Seyfried (or Liv Taylor if she was younger) as Shiera.

Meant to say
*series of events leading up to that point

you can't /thread your own post you massive faggot.

She didn't have to set up an economic plan, she came to liberate them, slaves make up the vast majority of the population and do most of the work, she just gave them the push to fight for their own freedom like they wanted to. They don't need the slavers to thrive, grrm is a hack

penny dreadful was probably the worst show I've watched in recent memory from start to finish. I'm unsure if game of thrones is better or not.

Viggo Mottersen as Bittersteel.

If she's to rule a city, she HAS to think about economy, that's rulership 101, with her failures grrm is showing she SUCKS at this. It's kind of highlighting Vayrs' point about how the ruler has to be educated to be worthy of the throne.

They didn't even get the conversations write. The Tormund shit was entertaining, but a complete waste of time. The Arya and Gendry shit existed to make fangirls squee and then was dropped. I would have much preferred Jon and Jaime having a conversation than the Tormund nonsense.

It's completely possible Arya and Gendry get together if the epilogue of the novels (lol someday will be published) is set when she's not a 11 years old. Gendry was merged with Edric Storm storyline so he had to stay behind and be Lord of Storm's End, but in the books is more likely Gendry and all Arya's band of mistifs become her crew.

Economy doesn't really matter when it comes to chattel slavery, why George is in over his head with that plotline making some false equivalence of slavery with US intervention in the middle East, it's totally retarded. Even with all the contrived setbacks he throws at her she doesn't do too bad anyway, when she actually tries to rule in mereen, but she wasn't trying to rule those cities

I don't deny that GRRM wants Gendrya or Braime to happen. The relationships were just dropped unceremoniously.

This. You'll have a few retarded diehards try to defend their precious dumpster fire series, but it'll go the way of many shows that end up this way. Into the trash.

a lot of things were dropped unceremoniously, user.

The fact there's still bitching threads months later comfirms will be remember that you are dense fog and rain and snow on the ground beef more with you please let me know when you're done and I'll come over the barrier to entry for you guys and you can do that for you and your family have a wonderful Christmas gift and the only reason at all Tuesday and Wednesday are the best way too polite to help with that said we are going to have some fun with you please call back from my vacation days for me to say if he can help with anything I need to bring home to the same thing I can think of is that the one you sent me a message on your phone and you have a great day.

True, but there's no GOT movies... yet, so just talking tv episodes.

D&D kind of forgot the six kingdoms don't believe in the Old Gods and consider wargs an abomination

It's so fucking retarded how GRRM wants a preteen tree wizard to be elected king.

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>a decade to tell an utterly pointless story that says absolutely nothing, just random shit happens, the show
>titties and dragon show ended up being the titties and dragons show
Well I'm shocked.

6>5 but otherwise gr8 ranking

a shit show starting in season 5. Stannis's death was the nail in the coffin.

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He was a Dornish prince, and the actor was Chilean

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>The freedmen work cheaply because they are hungry," Dany pointed out. "If I forbid them to carve stone or lay bricks, the chandlers, the weavers, and the goldsmiths will soon be at my gates asking that they be excluded from those trades as well." She considered a moment. "Let it be written that henceforth only guild members shall be permitted to name themselves journeymen or masters … provided the guilds open their rolls to any freedman who can demonstrate the requisite skills."

It's kinda funny that George is setting her up to be a failed example of ruling, when she spends a whole book basically being the only character in the series who's shown actually ruling a city and running an economy, because of one chapter where she shits herself in a field for a couple weeks and has visions from dysentery

Season 5 at least had stannis, butchered how he was, and some other remants of of the books like aemon, butchered however they were

I still weep for the one true king.

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t. low test danyfag

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The Based Jon meme doesn't even make any sense. Jon killing Dany is like Jon keying his own car. Jon became a cuck in season 8.

the tax policy favored him doing it before

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>this grandma ass is nice to danyfag cuckbois

yikes

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I wouldn't even remember it exists if I didn't see the threads on Yea Forums sometimes, but then again I never cared much for it. My friends just liked watching it together sometimes.

fag

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Imagine being a jonfag at this point. Literally worse than judas

>D&D
not even once

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the patrician choice would be kiss her, fuck her, kill her to not spread incestous targ seed and revive Stannis with lord of light magic to serve the one true king. A Baratheon on the throne fighting alongside a Stark once more (even if he is aegon targaryen, which jon is ashamed of)

Shes shaped like a God damn Venus statue. This body is attractive in the most primal of ways, if you dont want to slam into that ass at mach 3, then you are unironically gay.

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He cucked himself out of everything in season 8. Absolutely embarrassing.

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George RR literally Who?

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Just Like Dallas. Where you have people who say it's a good show and then you ask about the ending and they clam up.

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this made me sad that medieval knights never got to eat pizza and drink vodka. they never even got to eat tomatoes.

Jon is the rightful king not stannis, and Dany is the rightful queen. She has dragons she's willing to share with him, and she's willing to share power with him, and loves him truly. Why the fuck would he kill her to resurrect some guy who died months ago in a field?

keep telling yourself that while you jerk off to a cellulite grandma ass

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for me its the thighs and boobs though

WHAT ABOUT ARAGORN'S TAX POLICY DID HE HAVE THE BEST STORY

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1-Stannis is the one true king. The Targaryen line was broken by right of conquest by Robert Baratheon.
2-Because Jon knew Ned died for Stannis, and owed him for saving the entire night's watch from a wildling invasion, and that the throne was his.
3-Jon didn't want the throne. I think this is easy to catch with the whole 'UH DON' WAN' IT' he kept repeating the whole season. Targshits are nothing but incestuous remnants of the last monarchy who got BTFO by every law in Westeros (including Aegon's, who literally created the line of king's by conquering the seven kingdoms).

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Unironically this. It's only been over a few months and I see or hear zero discussion of it online or IRL.

>a vehement atheist took on his confirmation name so he could copy Tolkien
A poser and a hack

J*nnies were deleting GoT threads for a while

Stannis is a "Targshit," you actual retard. And Daenerys saved Jon three times compared to Stannis' one. Also, why would Jon want to support the house that killed his father, brother and sister?

like Babylon 6

it will be forgotten

It won’t

Much the same way nobody cares about Lost, Oz, or The Sopranos (aside from Yea Forums)

No one gave a shit about his claim, and even if he had the best claim he was a rotted corpse in the snow at that point. The baratheon claim was based on targ blood anyway, and right of conquest claim can be broken by any other conquest, such as targ reconquest of the system they themselves established and ran for hundreds of years

Ned didn't die for stannis whatsoever, and he owed Dany more than he owed Stannis, even just on a personal level, she saved his life more times than stannis did and didn't ask anything in return

It's not about want, it's about duty, it's Jon's duty to be king. Plus he was courting Dany in the 7th season which clearly indicated he wasn't a cuck like in the 8th season where he doesn't want any power.

The Original or the remake?

>Also, why would Jon want to support the house that killed his father, brother and sister?

Jon doesn't give a fuck about Rhaegar. To him, Ned was and always will be his father, and he was best friend of Robert Baratheon. Robb Stark was killed by the Freys, the Lannisters and the Boltons, not by Stannis, and even if Stannis did, he would've been in the right because Robb declared himself king and betrayed Stannis, which is treason. Arya and Sansa was still alive, and what's more, Stannis was planning on rescuing Sansa at Winterfell.

>Stannis is a "Targshit," you actual retard

He was a Baratheon. He held the stag as his sigil, declared against the mad king. He was Targaryen by his grandmother's line, but Westeros is patriarchal and he was from storm's end. He was given dragonstone in part because of his defeat of targaryen loyalists there (aside from robert not giving a fuck about him).

>And Daenerys saved Jon three times compared to Stannis' one.

Because she was alive for longer you dipshit. Since the script was incredibly weak and they needed to make Daenerys tsundere did they make her believe him right away. Stannis, with no other incentive then embracing his destiny as king as saving the night's watch's ass did he go north.

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But what's Bucciarati's tax pl-

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Let's say there's no fAegon, Daenerys can't inherit. Even in the Targaryen line of succession, Stannis is the rightful King. In the show, where they never do anything with his plotline after he fakes his death post-Battle of Winterfell for some reason, Gendry would be the legitimate King after he was legitimized, but women according to the laws of Westeros, can't inherit.

What about the ending where Stannis is king and Jon runs away to the house with a red door with Dany?

I already forgot about it
based

>The baratheon claim was based on targ blood anyway

let me stop you there buddy boyo this is very fucking wrong. It was based on the right of conquest that came about by based bobby B pushing the Targaryen's shit in through a war.

>such as targ reconquest of the system they themselves established and ran for hundreds of years

Except Daenerys didn't have the power to invade westeros nor hadn't she, so she hadn't reconquered. Therefore the throne belonged to Stannis, but he was usurped by the Lannisters, who were lying deceiving jews who knew they were stealing and being shithead. The throne during the entire time before Daenerys burnt king's landing, legitimatley belonged to Stannis.

>Ned didn't die for stannis whatsoever

Yes he fucking did. He died for uncovering the secret of Cersei's incest, and did it all for the line of succession to go to the rightful king. He rejected Renly for the same purpose, you danyfag low T basedboi

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>the Lannisters, who were lying deceiving jews who knew they were stealing and being shithead
To be fair, Tywin didn't. It was only his retarded kids Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion who were happily wrecking the Seven Kingdoms for the sole purpose of the incest baby holding the throne and Cersei having her power fantasies.

>Jon doesn't give a fuck about Rhaegar.
You have no proof of that claim because Jon's thoughts aren't fleshed out enough in season 8.
>To him, Ned was and always will be his father, and he was best friend of Robert Baratheon.
See above.
>Robb Stark
Was not his brother. I was not referring to Robb.
>Arya and Sansa
Are not his sisters. I was not referring to them.
>He was a Baratheon.
With Targ blood--the only reason Robert used to claim the throne besides conquest.
>Stannis, with no other incentive then embracing his destiny as king as saving the night's watch's ass did he go north.
Stannis went North because of Melisandre, who lead him around for years. Dany went North to save Jon (and Jorah).

Yes she can, she has the military force to conquer, which is how you take the crown from the Lannisters. Gendry isn't going to to be king by asking Cersei, no one recognizes Stannis' legitimacy.

Tywin did help keep Joffrey king. He didn't know that he was a bastard, but do you think he would care if he knew? His family was in power, which is what he wanted.

Bobby only got it because he grandmother was a targ

They literally could have had the greatest TV show of all time but they got lazy with the final season

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>she has the military force to conquer
About that. Yeah, those flying lizards aren't looking too good. All it'll take is some random Westerman, Stormlander or whoever lord to build some more scorpions and go ham on the last dragon if Daenerys did get to live and rule. Euron the Dragonslayer proved that these things can bleed and that they can be killed, even without needing ice magic spear chucking.

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And Daenerys destroyed all the scorpions easily.

last 4 seasons*

>You have no proof of that claim because Jon's thoughts aren't fleshed out enough in season 8

Then what you had previously argued holds no water, even by your logic. You just played yourself. You don't know he cared that bobby b BTFO his targ siblings either it was bullshit on your part. But what I say makes more sense because during the entire show and Jon's entire life, he grew up thinking he was a Stark bastard.

>With Targ blood--the only reason Robert used to claim the throne besides conquest.
Yeah let's just forget about Lyanna Stark getting 'kidnapped' by Rhaegar and Ned Stark's father getting burned alive. Nope lol it was just Bobby B's targ blood.

>Stannis went North because of Melisandre, who lead him around for years. Dany went North to save Jon (and Jorah)

He went north because he received the call for aid by the night's watch. Melisandre just confirmed it by mentioning that the true war was in the north. Davos was even sure Stannis would go before melisandre, hence him saying 'you're gonna need me'. Danyfags really are embarassing

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no one recognizes Stannis' legitimacy
except you know, all the people that did.

But Dany took to the battlefield once her dragons were big enough

Right of conquest but the targ blood the baratheons had was the excuse bobby used to take the crown. The conquest was part of it, but anyone with targ blood can reconquer under that precendent

Yes she did easily. And Stannis had the legitimacy but no one recognized it and he was long dead, that didn't matter by that point

He didn't die for stannis, there were many other reasons
1. Wanting to expose the truth
2. Wanting to protect Cersei's children because they were innocent
3. Honoring his friend robert
4. Uncovering the truth about Jon Arryn's murder
Stannis' rightful claim was totally incidental. It could've been Renly or hot pie or anyone else who had the rightful claim and it wouldn't have mattered.

It won't. Most people already forgot it existed. The last 3 seasons have done irrevocable damage to the series as a whole, you cannot undo them, every time you think "Oh I'll re-watch GoT!" you will remember those shitty seasons and episodes and how the character development and overall plot was complete and total shite and decide you want nothing to do with it.

Same thing happened to Battlestar Galactica, you want to experience those kino moments for the first 3 seasons, but then you remember that shite ending and want nothing to do with it ever again.

>Dany had wanted to lead the attack herself, but to a man her captains said that would be madness, and her captains never agreed on anything.
>Stannis was watching too, Tyrion knew. He’d never had his brother Robert’s thirst for battle. He would command from the rear, from the reserve, much as Lord Tywin Lannister was wont to do.

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>Yeah let's just forget about Lyanna Stark getting 'kidnapped' by Rhaegar and Ned Stark's father getting burned alive. Nope lol it was just Bobby B's targ blood.
That wasn't the justification to claim the throne.
>He went north because he received the call for aid by the night's watch. Melisandre just confirmed it by mentioning that the true war was in the north.
So, it was because of Melisandre. Thank you. You are really embarrassing.

Why would Jon choose Stannis over his aunt? What's in it for him? Defending the Baratheon claim that he doesn't care about? Jon siding with Stannis would be Jon cucking himself and his family.

Oberyn and Tywin were badly missed from the books and show when they got offed. It wasn't just the show that dipped in quality

Not by the end

The Long Night has huge flaws.
S4E9 has shown that you can shoot a night battle without terrible lighting and that Jon Snow is actually a decent commander. This isn't even a discussion about logic and realism because the show has broken its established rules over and over in the last season.
>"Every man we lose is another recruit for the Night King."
>"Dude let's just charge more than 10000 horsemen into the necromancer so he can raise them a minute later."
>"We have to use the defenses because the enemy heavily outnumbers us."
>"How about wasting half of our men before the enemy even reaches the wall?"
>"Kill as many enemies as you can before they scale the wall."
>"Lol just stare at the thousands of enemies who just stand in front of our wall because they can't pass the barricade."
>"Everyone has to fight because the Night King will try to kill all of you."
>"Lmao you should just go to the crypts because why fight against an enemy who attempts to kill you no matter who you are."

>That wasn't the justification to claim the throne
So the burning alive of the lord of the north, the mad king demanding the heads of the current lord of the north ned stark, as well as robert baratheon, who had just had his betrowthed stolen and raped, as well as the mad king being fucking crazy and burning people alive had nothing to do with robert's rebellion, it was just bobby B's Targ blood? that's gonna be a yikes and a zoinks in your general direction friendo

>So, it was because of Melisandre. Thank you. You are really embarrassing.

No it wasn't, I just clarified that she agreed with it after the fact. Davos knew Stannis would go north which is why after giving him the message he says 'you're going to need me'. What melisandre decided was that Davos should live, when Stannis had supposedly sent him to die (which wouldn't have happened, since he had in that same season supposedly sent davos to rot in jail for treason but then releases him because reasons).

>Why would Jon choose Stannis over his aunt?

Because of his father's loyalty to the real line of succession, because Jon is an honorfag who bent the knee to stannis without question, to thank him for saving his ass and all his brothers of the night's watch, and because he didn't want to be king and Stannis hadn't genocided an entire population atop a fucking nuclear holocaust machine (drogon)

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>Stannis hadn't genocided an entire population atop a fucking nuclear holocaust machine
be a lot cooler if he did

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>So the burning alive of the lord of the north, the mad king demanding the heads of the current lord of the north ned stark, as well as robert baratheon, who had just had his betrowthed stolen and raped, as well as the mad king being fucking crazy and burning people alive had nothing to do with robert's rebellion, it was just bobby B's Targ blood? that's gonna be a yikes and a zoinks in your general direction friendo
To CLAIM the Throne. To rebel? Yes. Targaryens killing the Starks doesn't automatically give Robert Baratheon a CLAIM to the throne. Conquest and Targ blood does.
>No it wasn't, I just clarified that she agreed with it after the fact. Davos knew Stannis would go north which is why after giving him the message he says 'you're going to need me'. What melisandre decided was that Davos should live, when Stannis had supposedly sent him to die (which wouldn't have happened, since he had in that same season supposedly sent davos to rot in jail for treason but then releases him because reasons).
Davos isn't Stannis. Did Stannis agree to go North before or after Melisandre chimed in?
>Because of his father's loyalty to the real line of succession
Then Jon would side with House Targaryen.
>because Jon is an honorfag who bent the knee to stannis without question
Not like he had much of a choice or cared at the time.
>to thank him for saving his ass and all his brothers of the night's watch
Dany saved his life two more times than Stannis and pledged her armies to Jon.
>because he didn't want to be king and Stannis hadn't genocided an entire population atop a fucking nuclear holocaust machine (drogon)
No, but he did murder his daughter, if we are going by the show.