Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Deep Dive

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oh yeah I heard that. thank you

natalie wood reference

Okay this is Manson related but I'll dump it anyway
I liked when Manson showed up at the Polanski house asking about "Terry and Dennis Wilson"
Dennis Wilson is obviously the Beach Boy, but I didn't know Terry was Terry Melcher, music producer who actually owned the house. Tate and Polanski were actually only renting from him.
Turns out that Manson did visit the home several times asking about Terry.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

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I'm gonna watch the cam tomorrow and see if I can get more info
Apart from that I'm just going to dump some movies and tv shows referenced in the movie (in ads or on theater marquees)
Tate passes a theater showing Pendulum on the way to the bookstore

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oh right i forgot this
it's one of the more obvious references but here it is for the zoomers:
When Tate is in the bookstore she buys a copy of Tess D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy for Polanski.
Polanski did a film adaptation "Tess" in 1979

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and i forgot this
In the Bruce Lee scene, Lee says something like "Joe Lewis, the black guy not the white kickboxing asshole"
I thought originally this was a reference to Chuck Norris in some way, but it's not.
> tarting in 1967, Lewis began training privately with Bruce Lee

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The last time Polanski saw Tate alive she gave him her copy of Tess to read

I left but i heard the batman theme play during the credits

For the zoomers: the Wrecking Crew was the 3rd and final Matt Helm movie (James Bond ripoffs)
I didn't know that in addition to Bruce Lee working on it (shown in OUATIH) it was Chuck Norris' first film

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Liked the reference to the Invaders tv show on a park bench at one point
Nice 60s nostalgia but also foreshadows the home invasion at the climax of the film

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Lee wasn't working on it. He was "teaching" Tate how to kick to make the connection that polanksi thought/thinks Lee killed Tate.

Rumor Willis and Maya Hawke both have famous actor parents, and both were in the Manson family. Coincidence?

>Discussing movies on Yea Forums

>Terry Melcher, music producer who actually owned the house

Sorry user, the owner of the house was Rudy Altobelli, they all rented it from him.

JUST

thank you user. never heard of he guy before
I'd also like to know if the little girl character is anyone.
The pic here is from the cam. Name looks like "Trudi Fasci" ????
IMDB does not provide a full name for the character and there is no little girl in the Lancer pilot above. Probably made up

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Just down the street from El Coyote is the New Beverly Cinema, a former porno theater currently owned and operated by Tarantino

Trudi Fraser

I wish he laid this in somewhere...
youtube.com/watch?v=mpx4ODP35VQ

This movie was surprisingly relaxing. I was just laying in my regal seat fully reclined, chillin. It was like watching a bunch of Sims.

Thank you user. But she's a fictional character? Can't find anything on her.
I'd also like to know the novel Rick is reading in the same scene.
Probably a Zane Grey book, but I can't find shit on a novel about a guy named "Easy Breezy""

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Also curious as to what Disney biography Trudi is reading. Disney would have been dead for three years when this movie took place.

>hehehe oh i remember that
>hohoho Oh that's a reference wow I get it!! haahaha

you should be embarrassed tbqf

Think about it user. This is about a time period, and how do you make it immersive? Inject media.

WOW. THAT WAS REAL??? Holy shit dude, that's fucking epic. Absolutely epic

>Disney would have been dead for three years when this movie took place.
>Steve Jobs died in 10/11. His biography came out 10/11, a couple of weeks after he died.

i can't find shit about what biography that might be

Just like my stranger things haha :^)
sorry brainlets, we outta here

It's realistic.

To give perspective as to how the biography might have portrayed him, you uptight retard.

At the theater Tate sees The Wrecking Crew at there's also a poster up for the Mercenary, a spaghetti western, but It doesn't appear elsewhere

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they should be supplemental to the short stories, which should be engaging in their own right

>expecting people to read your mind

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Directed by Sergio Corbucci, director of the original Django.

It's called "not having autism."

this is a great thread user
however, how I understand it, the theater where the dirty movie is premiering is the current New Beverly (which Quentin owns, of course), which WAS a porno theater before it became the New Beverly, called the Eros.

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my mother mentioned when the girl and DiCaprio had their first scene that Maggie Lancer was not a character on the show. I chalk this up to pilot changes but I guess it was just made up. Fine by me, she was great.

Speaking of Burt Reynolds, he was originally cast in the movie as George Spahn but died before filming.

thanks user
srs I never heard of Lancer even once before and I used to read about old television a lot

Melcher also produced all of the Paul Revere & The Raiders songs that are in the movie, and Raiders record sleeves are on screen several times
another easter egg is Sharon making fun of Jay for dancing to a Raiders song, saying Jim Morrison wouldn't think he was cool; Jay was Jim's hairdresser
I doubt 3 in the Attic is the movie, because there's an earlier scene in the movie where Cliff & Rick drive past a marquee for that same movie, already playing, and the trailer Cliff sees on tv for the movie is on 6 months before the premiere that Sharon notices.

don't forget, Peppard gets mention as one of the three Georges Rick was up against for the Great Escape part

don't forget Margaret Qualley herself (Andie MacDowell's daughter) and Harley Quinn Smith

err. i didn't catch that
gonna have to watch the cam

the novel's title is visible onscreen, it's "Ride a Wild Bronco". I don't think it's a real book.

>Harley Quinn Smith

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What was the name of the guy Bruce claimed he would would and Cliff said he would wipe the floor with

and of Nebraska Jim, the movie Rick goes to Italy to initially star in

*Bruce claimed he would win

Bruce was talking about Muhammed Ali, who's real name is Cassius Clay

While driving around Rick and Cliff pass a theater playing "The Night they Raided Minsky's"
I don't think i'm reading too much in to see this also thematically ties with the "Night Raid" at the climax of the film
Fantastic user. missed that.

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this was no where near as ham-fisted as Stranger Things or as cringy as the out of place Never Ending Story sing along that is directly responsible for a character dying.

Well I feel stupid. Thanks for clarifying

Is there already a cam around? It won't come out in my country until september and i'm dying to see it!

More movies. this would be from the night of the murder

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another Corbucci mention, the spy movie Dalton makes and which appears onscreen, Operazione Dyn-O-Mite, is built out of footage from Death on the Run, another film Corbucci directed
I didn't figure that one out myself, I saw it on the imdb trivia page, lol
you got it, user; there's a lot of shit to catch in this movie
One more Bruce Lee thing, Jay Sebring (one of the irl Manson victims, of course) was directly responsible for getting Bruce his start in Hollywood by introducing him to the producer who cast him in Green Hornet, Bill Dozier; so if Bruce HAD shown up at the end to kill hippies like apparently was the original ending, it would've actually kind of made sense, because he might've just been coming to visit his friend Jay

Krakatoa East of Java was a cinerama movie, but it premiered in december 1968. Would it still be playing the following summer?
I didn't know about all that shit with Jay and Bruce Lee. Everyone seemed to know each other pretty well in real life, like the inclusion of McQueen.

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any ideas what this was? i'm lost

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quick correction on this one, Rumer didn't play one of the Manson kids, she played Joanna Pettet, who was Sharon's best friend and also a famous actress. If Quentin really was going for a nepotism angle with the Manson family members though, Lena Dunham DOES fit in with that, lol
Teenage Monster, from 1958

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Was surprised to learn Lancer was on the correct cover of TV Guide the week of the murders
that is really great

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not trivia, but notice that Steve laments that "he never had a chance" when Connie Stevens points out what Sharon's "type" was, and Rick says the same thing when talking to James Stacey about losing the Great Escape role to Steve; just a nice bit of parallelism
about Krakatoa, the premiere might've been 68, but wiki says it's release date wasn't until May 14, 1969. Maybe it was a roadshow before that.

It's kinda interesting that Lee only appears in the movie with Cliff and Sharon, even though so many IRL characters in the movie are people he actually trained (Sebring, McQueen, Polanski). The rumor that Lee trained Sharon for Wrecking Crew has never been corroborated.

oh really
i didn't realize that was Connie Stevens
I also only learned tonight that Connie Stevens was married to James Stacey
this movie was really well done. love this shit

Which Hollywood actor is Dunham's parent?

I didn't fucking know that, man, thanks, that makes the scene even better; both of them having that moment of melancholy with one half of the same married couple
her parents aren't Hollywood, they're big wheel NY art scene people, and they're also related to the Tiffany diamond people. Dunham was having NYT profiles written about her when she was still in high school because of her parents connections.

So not nepotism then.

....uhhhhh
you sure about that?

Sounds more like you've got a hate boner for this chick and need a reason to take her down despite her family being nowhere near Hollywood.

shut the fuck up, all I'm saying is that if Tarantino was deliberately casting actors who were in the business because of their parents, she fits. Go fuck with people somewhere else, this was a good thread.

okay OP here. it's 3:30AM PST and I can't find any more of note in the movie
I feel we've successfully raised this quality of this site above garbage for a few hours
mods, i request you pay us back by banning that spic mask meme shit more vehemently or i'll have to take matters into my own hands
webm unrelaed

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The New York television scene is also a thing. That's why she got her HBO show and the only reason the general public know who she is. She def got the (((nepotism))) boost.

Thread was fine until you got mad at a chick for appearing in a movie.

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oh right. Wanamaker directed this episode of Columbo so I guess webm is related

Cliff Booth was based on Burt Reynold's stunt double and best friend Hal Needham.

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Oh fuck, one more thing on this, it was the Europa at the time, it wasn't the Eros until 70
>On September 13, 1963 it was de-twinned and renamed New Yorker Theatre, and on June 11, 1964 it was renamed Europa Theatre. By 1969 it was screening adult movies and this use continued under various names: it became the Eros Theatre on February 11, 1970.
still putting some little effort into trying to figure out what would've been playing that night

thanks user
it's alluded to so clearly in the dialog that I'm sure you can (in theory) figure it out. Maybe from listening to the radio ads closely or something else
but i'm not getting it tonight

very only possibly it's pic related? I don't think it's a legit porno movie, but is sexually themed, maybe enough to count. And it was directed by Fernando Di Leo, who Tarantino is an avowed fan of for Il Boss, so it could be an intentional though very indirect reference

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Bill Dozier, as mentioned here, was a producer of the Batman tv show, giving Bruce Lee a guest spot along with The Green Hornet. Melvin Schwarz, Al Pacino's character, also mentions the show as being something Rick should to avoid ending up guesting on

and btw, Jay Sebring also guested on Batman, playing a character named Mr. Oceanbring, lol

oh wait user
there is a scene with Lee training Sebring
forget what part of the movie it's in but Sebring has his shirt off and they're practicing fighting
I could have sworn i also saw some promotional material with a pic of Lee and McQueen in the same scene (in a car I thought)
maybe i'm just imagining that last bit but damn

FWIW here's an article from yesterday that gives the real films that inspired each of the fake spaghetti westerns and Italian b-movies:
thewrap.com/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-what-real-movies-inspired-rick-daltons-fake-films/

yeah I'm guessing this shit will feed buzzfeed garbage for a few weeks
I feel a little satisfaction at us getting there somewhat unaided

question: what even is the point of shooting on celluloid anymore when every theater projects it digitally anyway?? the war is lost.

most people don't, it's just a fetish for Tarantino, and he and Weinstein personally supplied the projectors to most of the places capable of projecting in 35 or 70 now back when Hateful Eight came out

That's like saying why record on tape when people are going to listen on CD or mp3. It still results in a different quality of recording.

why play a tube amp when you are just going to listen on your ipod or whatever you kids have

movie was so much god damned fun
this is from early in the movie, but user above suggests calling the theater the pussycat at that point might be anachronistic (1968)

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more movies
this theater is seen for all of like 2 seconds onscreen in the cut I saw

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one random note: have heard people theorizing that Dalton's movie 14 Fists of McCluskey where he flamethrows the nazis, is a dramatization of the mission from Inglourious Basterds where Hitler was killed, since that movie is part of the same shared timeline/universe

Missed opportunity not calling it "14 Fists of Aldo Raine".

oh no, dude, the Pussycat's a different theater
the Europa/Eros/New Beverly is the one we were talking about

That street they converted was insane for how little they used it in the movie. It's in, what; two scenes? In one it's out of focus in the background and in another it's a blur as it's a speeding car scene.

I do applaud how they treated it like the background and didn't ever give it full focus, as if it were a film made in the era and it's no big deal; but god damn I wanted to see it.

>there will be 100 youtube easter egg videos
that's great and all, but you see this movie is riddled with purposeful clicks meant to trigger (kitsch) nostalgia. Thats the basis of the movie. It would be fine if it just happens, but in this movie and so many more films these days, is that is all there is. The actual "story" is an inch deep.

This is tantamount to just making youtube shorts. The majority of scenes are ham-fisted era references relying heavily on the soundtrack to force you into the time period, despite not actually delivering anything to the plot of the story.

OH and also be sure to add a guffaw and quip in there for good measure. I hear it really helps fans identify with a character if they are a quipster

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cliff was based off a guy who stunt doubled for burt often and lived at his house for a while, hal i think his first name was

>hal i think his first name was
Hal Needham - responsible for the great chase/stunt films of the 70s & 80s

Hal was the last of the man's men in Hollywood
AND IT FUCKING SHOWS

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Fun fact he's also playing Manson in the upcoming season of Mindhunter.

Dang I love me some great set design. Taran-meme-o can't write for crap but I'll probably go see the movie for that alone.

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to be fair, Tarantino never claimed to make anything deep. Trivial entertainment is his art form. All his references are towards forms of pulp fiction and schlocks.
Unlike, say, Woody Allen who references Bergman or russian literature.

I liked it, which is unusual because I usually don't really like Tarantino movies. Then again, I have a weakness for movies that move at a glacial pace.

Supposedly Walt Disney's last written words were "kirt Russel". Since Kurt Russel is in the movie, it could be some sort of weird reference to that