What was the Riddle of Steel all about?
What was the Riddle of Steel all about?
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Technology. Changing your material circumstances instead of fatalistically accepting them or parasitizing people.
contemplate this on the tree of woe
Coal. Strengthens the metal during forging.
There were like 3 meaning to it.
I can remeber only one. The true warrior is the one that can make himself and his weapon one thing.
Or something like that.
steel is nothing without man who gives it shape and wields it
>fuck roasties, fuck jannies and fuck people, trust only you're steel, jorge sanz
Conan's father says steel is strong but is defeated in combat by Thulsa Doom's men.
Thulsa Doom says he believed steel was the most valuable thing when he was younger but now puts his faith in his own flesh.
Valeria says "fuck the gods, just bring him back" but then returns as a valkyrie.
The answer is strength in your convictions makes you strong enough to wield the steel and flesh.
In essence, in order to be strong, one must "burn coal", so to speak?
Game of Thrones pilot (2011)
Will. Riddle of Steel is about Will. What's stronger, the flesh of men or his steel. Neither. Will is the Strongest. At the beginning of Conan The Barbarian, Conan's father tells him the answer is a sword because all will fail you except your Sword. But, Conan's mother had her sword and all the good it do for her when Thulsa doom placed her under a spell.
Fast Forward to the movie's triumphant battle, Conan was just saved by Valeria who clawed her way out of the pit of hell to save him. She was both dead and didn't have a weapon to speak of, but her Will become as a sword and she protected her True Love!
Rexor's[Conan's daddy's) sword was broken, so obviously Steel, although occasionally reliable, isn't Strongest.
We see Conan confront Thulsa Doom and at this point he had bested, albeit with trickery and the aide of a ghost, both Thorgrim and Rexor, men who were easily stronger than he was one on one. So Conan was literally Stronger than anyone there, by far. His sword, The Steel, was thousands of years old, as Old as Thulsa Doom. It was so potently made that it broke Conan's father's sword. But, if memory serves, Conan held in his hand also the broken sword, his father's sword because I think he began to realize the Answer to Crom's Riddle. For neither Steel nor Flesh is at all strong for either can be set only so resilient. But Will, Will enabled his dead love to literally fight her way from the land of the dead back to the land of the living and save her True Love's life.
Finally, As Conan Stood there with Thulsa and Thulsa began to use the charm of the snake on him Conan's arm lowered and in that moment both broken Sword and muscle was as nothing. But Conan's will that was forged in fire and darkness was so refined that he willed himself through Thulsa's spell and removed that FAGGOT'S HEAD! Will of Fire and Darkness is the only answer!
Beat me to it. A rather simplistic explanation and not as long winded as mine. It is still good though.
Conan's father tells him Steel is the strongest. Thulsa Doom tells him Flesh is the strongest. Conan learns that Will is actually the strongest and controls both Steel and Flesh.
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Did this movie have the greatest intro of all time?
No he literally means how to make steel in a forge
This is the greatest movie of all time
What other anons said, both Conan's father and Thulsa Doom take extreme views and are both proved wrong. The answer lies in between, also the power of friendship and love, not just Conan's will on its own. Subotai is the best bro in all kino history, Valeria is the perfect waifu.
Trust no one and nothing but your weapons
It also has a critique of the subcultures of the 60’s and 70’s, where spiritually starving people joined up with cults to be part of the collective and feel like they have a purpose (hence the snake cult of Doom). Conan is supposed to represent that we really should be saying “fuck it”, and making our way through the world relying on our own strength, and the strength taken from friends and loved ones (rather than letting your life being dictated by others)
Metalurgy is way more complex than this.
In general,
when making steel,
you need the proper amount of carbon,
Not too much,
Not too little.
Iron, whether cast iron or ductile iron or malleable iron, has large amounts of carbon “within” it, but the carbon is not homgenized within the molecular structure of the iron, so the carbon is in the form of flakes or spheroids within the iron.
Steel is an iron alloy, with carbon molecularly bonded to the iron, typically to a maximum of maybe 3%.
To produce steel, you also have to prevent oxidation in the forging process, remove impurities, and usually orevent sulphur contamination.
Some of the finest “steel” during the Roman Empire came from Iberia, and Noricum in what is now the area of Austria.
One way to refine the steel was to produce wrought iron bars, which were then buried in the earth for a number of years. These bars eould later be dug up and forged, the reaction with the earth removing impurities in the iron.
Funnily enough, the thesis/antithesis theme of the riddle of steel comes from Marxist philosophy, though Milius was famously very right wing. There are lots of other points of debate in the film, the opening Nietzsche quote and the one from Genghis Khan. Some things are not explicitly stated, like the slave master setting Conan free for an unknown reason.
Conan's father believed a man could only be as strong as his sword but was killed by Thulsa's minions.
Thulsa believed flesh was stronger than steel but was killed by Conan's father's sword.
Conan solved the riddle of steel by holding both steel (the sword) and flesh (Thulsa's head) at the end. If you can find a copy of the script it directly says this, and explains the symbolism of a lot of other moments too.
>Some things are not explicitly stated, like the slave master setting Conan free for an unknown reason.
I thought they said it was because Conan had no one else who would fight him (and make the master a ton of money), but apparently there’s a whole backstory about how the wheel of pain is basically part tool/part test to create the perfect warrior out of natural selection. Then they get taken to the Gladiator pits to awaken their killing instinct and shot, before being sent to the Eastern lords for training.
>strong will power
>"Marxist philosophy"
you're funny user :)
Makes me want to watch the Conan movies again
Flesh and mind, like steel, must be tempered to become strong. The answer is the quote from Nietzsche in the beginning of the kino:
"That which does not kill us, strenghtens us."
When the Nostalgia Critic said this was a dumb movie was the instant I knew he was a complete brianlet and retard
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I wonder if you can figure out the riddle of not talking about shit you don't know anything about
Or would that be too much dialectic for you
I mean dialectics, the interpretation and fusion of two divergent theories, not communism or Marxism in general.
The other awesome bit in the film I forgot is Thulsa making a cultist jump to their death, it's based on a real instance when the leader of the Assassins commanded a follower to do the same.