I do not get the hate for this at all. It was great. It bounced back towards one alien like the first film but still was original enough to not be a copy. The sets and soundtrack were amazing. This was also one of the few films where the theatrical cut was actually better than the director's cut.
>BUT MUH NEWT AND HICKS
This is the worst argument ever. Consider at the very least how different the Newt actress would look since she aged between "Aliens" and this film. You would need to either explain her cryo-chamber leaked or you would need to replace her with another actress, and neither of those would have been good.
Your incapability of identifying garbage when you see it bothers me.
Luke Gomez
not an argument, zoomer
Kevin Collins
I agree 100%
Jordan Campbell
i only remember the basketball retarded scene, the clone room which was pretty great, and the squishy babby alien at the end which was stupid and ruined the design
is there anything else of value in there?
Josiah Harris
It is Kino. Assembly cut is much better. People expect Aliens: Revenge of Queen. Not depressed prison monks.
Jeremiah Green
That's Alien 4. It's shit
Camden Allen
That is not Alien 3.
Nathaniel Jackson
what's alien 3 even about? i don't even remember the movie then
Probably the most Iconic scene. Apart from the gut busting Alien. Second one has Paxton yelling 'Game Over, man!' But that's not anywhere near iconic. So in short: Cameron is a hack.
>drab brown movie with every prisoner looking the exact same
Evan Peterson
This. Assembly Cut is brilliant. I think everyone wanted Aliens on Earth, or going to the Aliens home world, some sort of escalation from Aliens. A downbeat movie about an alien on a mothballed Prison planet wasn't what people wanted. It's a great end to the trilogy though. Ripley sacrifices herself to ensure the extinction of the Xenomorphs.
>You've been in my life so long I can't remember anything else
Jayden Clark
>Consider at the very least how different the Newt actress would look since she aged between "Aliens" and this film. You would need to either explain her cryo-chamber leaked or you would need to replace her with another actress, and neither of those would have been good. and yet they clearly made an older dummy of her anyway she aged like 5 years between movies. what are you, blind?
Jonathan Turner
how did she get impregnated by an alien queen without realizing?
Anthony Mitchell
Ripley is only woman on prison planet. No hair, no weapons and no hope. She also have baby alien inside her. Alien should end with film.
Nathan Gray
So why don't you tell us what made it an objectively good film? >inb4 amazing this, amazing that personal preferences are not an argument.
Levi Gray
So why don't you tell us what made it an objectively bad film? >inb4 poor this, poor that personal preferences are not an argument
Jace Hughes
Chestbursters do that. Queen is for laying eggs with chestbursters. Happened on escape modul during cryosleep.
Carter Reed
ah yes, not sure why i was combining 2 and 3 in my head. i thought 3 was pretty great, why is it considered bad? nice dialogue and redpilled, and some very memorable scenes
Mason Young
>t. autist
David Robinson
>and yet they clearly made an older dummy of her anyway the dummy looks like the 1986 Newt, you literal dummy
>she aged like 5 years between movies yeah and the physical difference between a girl at 12 and 17 is night and day
Chase Cruz
Friend, you posted the thread, burden of proof lies on you. Don't act more retarded than you really are.
Noah Young
OP here.
That guy wasn't me, but he's right, your just being a faggot. I gave some explanations, certainly more than you did
Aaron Collins
It is good movie. Not funny capeshit. Propably just not right movie for your taste.
Owen Clark
Your explanation of "I thought it was amazing! :>)" is worth jackshit when defending the movie. Surely you can come up with better than that.
Grayson Cook
People wanted a happily ever after Aliens 2 with Ripley, her new bf and their adopted daughter fighting off aliens and saving the day.
Instead they got a slap in the face instantly setting the grim tone for the rest of the movie. A kino move, but most americans can't even tolerate a "bad" ending (eg Leon) so a bad beginning that also ends with the death of the protagonist? The average retard consumer isn't ready and never will be.
The effects were beyond shit. The acting was pretty bad from the inmates. Boring. The whole ending was AvP-tier (it's me, Mr. Weyland *winks at camera*)
Dylan Kelly
Seeing Hicks' head from being smashed by the metal beam and seeing Newt's dead face from having drowned was more terrifying to me then any scene involving the alien, just like how in "aliens" the people molded into the hive was the scariest visual in that entire movie
you obviously did not read the rest of OP's post, retard
Leo Ramirez
>You've been in my life so long I can't remember anything else
~three weeks
Isaiah Morris
>The effects were beyond shit. example?
>The acting was pretty bad from the inmates. example?
>Boring. marvel fan detected
>The whole ending was AvP-tier (it's me, Mr. Weyland *winks at camera*) the fuck are you talking about?
Jose Mitchell
The part where you refute a strawman argument you came up with? Yeah, I read it, what about it?
John Flores
i remember the muslim leader being good, but haven't seen the movie since i was a kid and i had no criteria at that point. don't remember much from the rest of inmates
Jason Bell
the idea was good, but the execution, especially in the pacing, fell short. Mostly due to production bullshit that screwed Fincher over from making the movie he set out to do. Its still pretty solid if drab and meandering at times.The visual approach was on point, ill give Fincher that.
The theatrical is better in that it cuts the runtime to a tolerable degree, while the Assembly Cut makes it nearly as long as Aliens directors cut without enough going on to justify it. My personal dream cut would be something like the theatrical cut + the opening of the Assembly Cut + a few other scenes taken from the Assembly cut to smooth over some of the scenes but keep it from getting too long.
Oh come the fuck on. The alien looks like a ps2 render every time you see the whole body
Logan Brooks
you sound like you're out of arguments because you are realizing I am right.
Jordan Ward
not sure, the prison guy who beats up some guys to defend Ripley from getting raped, but then gets angry at Ripley for being a Thot and it's all her fault. I thought he was the muslim leader of the inmates for some reason
James Reed
show one (1) example
Christian Fisher
I refuse to believe that you have seen the movie
James Torres
>Muslim leader >Movie is full of crosses >Never use word Allah or Mohammed Interesting
Samuel Carter
For fuck's sake, you facetious idiot, rewatch the damn movie.
And that's even the best example in the movie. In other scenes it literally looks like they made some kind of mistake and never had time to fix it, it's that bad
it wasn't fine even back then. It was generally agreed, that the CGI effects looked unfinished, what they were as the studio decided that there had been too much spent already.
Lucas Richardson
thats the Assembly cut. The composite imaging thing they did still looks bad throughout the whole movie, but there is definitely unfinished effects left in for the Assembly cut, even the brief scenes when you see the Weyland corp team walking off their ship outside heading to the prison.
Colton Anderson
And yet you praise marvel-shit CGI, huh?
Asher Bailey
Masking to scene is CGI. I admit it sometimes doesn't work that well.
Matthew Watson
I think that people in the Alien universe dream while in Cryo-sleep, if so, I'm sure Ripley doesn't even dream anymore and only has Nightmares so she's been having the presence of aliens both in and out of sleep for hundreds of years now
Jace Cruz
Not cope, I watch RLM just like the rest of us, it's hardly hidden knowledge
Julian Clark
>The only thing people can criticize is stuff from the horrible directors cut
AAHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA
theatrical cut > director's cut Now please point out something wrong with the actual theatrical cut
Just because two things are shit doesn't make one of the things not shit
Charles Watson
He's right, it is an articulated puppet that's super-imposed into the scene. You're right that it looks like absolute shit though, it doesn't help that Jurassic Park came out less than a year later and revolutionized cgi thus making Alien3 look even worse and dated horrendously within a matter of months
Eli Collins
Watch Avatar if you think movies are about CGI. That movie was propably made before you was born.
Joseph Davis
>their puppet is so bad it makes it look like shitty cgi I know you think you got me, but this really isn't speaking in favor of the movie.
Samuel Richardson
Does it mean you are shit or not?
Kayden Murphy
>neither of those would have been good. both would have been profoundly superior to "they're dead lol who cares"
Nathaniel Martin
are you gonna actually criticize something from the actual movie that was released?
Michael Gomez
How does mentioning Avatar makes Alien 3 a better movie?
Tyler Taylor
you never obviously saw Alien 3, faggot
Alexander Anderson
>ALIEN MOVIE NO HAVE SUPERHEROES OR OUTSOURCED CGI TO INDIA SO IT BAD
I always liked it as well I don't remember which cut had what any more, or the differences from the novelization
Lucas Brown
>hurr the assembly cut isn't the real movie get bent, faggot. assembly cut was miles better than the theatrical cut, and it was still shit.
Ryan Bennett
You could talk bout some real problems. But your argument is that effects are not good enough. There are few seconds of that bad masking. Criticize something from movie. Plot, acting, sets etc.
Austin Clark
>shitty opinion and still cannot point out one thing bad with the actual real movie
The last 40 posts have been about pointing out bad things with the movie. Did you just come in the thread?
Jayden Wood
Absolute non-sequitur, does not answer how Avatar is relevant in any way in defending Alien 3.
Sebastian Hill
>literally only pointing out one scene that was never in the final film
Thomas Morgan
>movie is about alien >scenes depicting the Alien look like shit I'd say that's a start. Still haven't gotten a single argument as to why the movie is good.
Kevin Bailey
>still cannot point out one bad thing in the final film really? are you really gonna be this obtuse?
Joseph Green
you're retarded
Aiden Nguyen
If you are going to ignore simple words on a screen telling you exactly what was shit about the movie over and over, we will never get to the further reasons why the movie is shit. Nevermind that, again, you made the thread, you have to provide arguments as to why it's good.
Brandon Rogers
got it, you have no answer and are avoiding the question because you cannot point out even one thing wrong with the theatrical cut
Caleb Thompson
You didn't answered anything. Why should i take your bad Avatar bait?
Dylan Smith
That's what I am wondering, you are the one who brought it up.
Henry Brooks
the special effects did not magically become better between the thetrical and the assembly cut. Case in point, go to 1:56 youtu.be/rDrF9LFn_cc?t=116 Now, for the love of god, tell us why the movie is good.
Owen Brown
These zoomers are too far removed to know they were bad effects for the time
dude that's literally a puppet, and it's intentionally shaking, they didn't even use cgi or a bluescreen there, are you so fucking drenched in disney-tier shit cgi that you cannot see a real object?
Tyler Barnes
>t. zoomer pretending he is not a zoomer
Isaiah Bailey
>dude that's literally a puppet How does this make it less shit? How come advocates of this shit movie can't put out a single good thing about it, yet when presented with evidence of the contrary, they'll resort to dishonesty and personal attacks?
Adam Torres
I was born in 1987
Hunter Gutierrez
Tell me how a newborn xenomorph shaking is supposed to look better than that
which makes it even sadder
Isaac Clark
Because if you think movies are about CGI, you should watch Avatar instead. But i already wrote that before.
Samuel Turner
>how should it look like Like this. This is a movie from 1979, the shot is twice as long and is a close up, and yet it looks ten times better (1:42) youtu.be/nPQ7om598OM?t=102 This is the last time I am answering you unless you provide a good reason why the film isn't shit, like you've been asked and unable to do for 70 posts.
Anthony Powell
Honestly. Is this trolling or you are just idiot?
Joseph Davis
fact the covenant one looks like garbage
Gabriel Powell
Tell us why movie is shit. It is not shit because it is good movie about purgatory.
>If you're not exactly my age, you should be ashamed of yourself
Ian Walker
unironically correct
James Brown
Cameron is a literally a hack.
Wyatt Myers
fuck off. I've seen it when it was new and it was shit
Liam Ramirez
Whay are you retarded contrarians rediscovering the shittiest movies in this and other franchises and gushing over them? Go back to capeshit
Nathan Gray
Looks like you are capeshit fan here.
Because you expected Aliens: Part 2.
Asher Sanchez
>Because you expected Aliens: Part 2. franchise mentality is a zoomer thing. I (and everyone else except you) expected a good movie or no movie at all.
Ian Jenkins
>Looks like you are capeshit fan here. >no u
Ayden Anderson
It is in fact stop motion filmed separately and composited into the final shot in post production.
Juan Perry
That's more set design and lighting than anything else. I want to live in those sets.
Nolan Turner
it's a great end to the trilogy, but is more flawed than it's two predecessors.
Levi Russell
>The acting was pretty bad from the inmates. False. They were best thing about the film. Paul McGann was especially good.
Aiden Rivera
Stop calling me 85.
Charles Lewis
Considering ressurection, prometheus and requiem exist I don't think anyone has reason to complain about 3
Benjamin White
The steadicam stuff from the xeno's POV switching from ceiling to floor was brilliant. Can't think of many films that used it as good apart from The Shining
Gabriel Howard
Don't forget 'Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure', though that's more a meme than iconic, I suppose.
Nolan Collins
That’s the 2nd one idiot.
Jace Diaz
>>BUT MUH NEWT AND HICKS
I always thought that was the best part. Just a gut-punch right at the start.
There is no director's cut, Fincher bailed before post production because he hated the fucking movie. Ironically Fincherfags are the only reason this shit gets spammed as the second coming of christ
