Freddy Krueger

It’s been 9 years since we’ve had an Nightmare on Elm Street movie.
And 16 years since we’ve had a decent one.
When is he gonna come back to wreck havoc in our nightmares?

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I thought the guy doing The Conjuring Universe movies was going to reboot it again, but he's waiting til they are done making those first

Does anyone remember the Freddy vs Jason weigh-in?

Used to watch it on the dvd all the fuckin time. Shit was hilarious

So, never?

I would pay good money to see Frederick Charles Krueger recast as Freddy Freeman, but why do I think this is not going to happen?

England suggested Kevin Bacon play Freddy and that’s not a bad idea.

Also, Freddy is the original IT, he doesn’t have to look like one guy. Craven stated the reason he gave Freddy the stripped sweater is because of Plastic Man. Any time plastic man turned into someone or something you knew it was him because of his stripped outfit.

Same goes for Freddy

It’s an iconic look

Only good freddy movies are 1, freddy vs Jason, and the remake

Anything past the 2nd movie is just cringe
Even though the remake has its flaws, pedo freddy is kino.

Imagine having an opinion this incorrect.

What if Johnny Depp played Freddy

Fuck you

Seems I've struck a nerve

Sorry, I dont watch slashers to see an old man make unfunny jokes on extremely lame kills

You clearly have not seen 3 or 7 ya bitch

>being this wrong
lmaoing@yourlife

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Yeah I don't even watch Freddy movies but I know that 3 is the one in the mental institution and it's kino.

bitch I have the whole NOES boxset
The only good 3 kill was the string puppet suicide
>people will actually defend that goofy as fuck skeleton
Pathetic
You get no (you)

the remake glove is best, prove me wrong

>gets sucked into a movie screen
Wow so good

i honestly don't know if freddy's a good fit for the horror cinema of our time. he's such a relic of the 1980s, so tuned in to that era's popular consciousness

like what would be the point of freddy krueger in 2020; worst case scenario they're just gonna have some hack twitter bluecheck write his shitty one-liners or something. do today's kids even know who he is?

i can't help but feel that the age of iconic horror villains and monsters is definitely over. there aren't many new ones being spawned

Go back and re watch it, its extremely cringe
>wowie zowie I can be whatever i want in my dreams!
>in my dreams...I'm bad!
I forgot about the heroin kill too. That one was good

Guess you missed the boat on the reboot of IT being the biggest selling horror movie. Or Halloween 2018 being a big hit.

Freddy is very similar to Pennywise. He can change his appearance and do really anything. They don’t have to make him the Englund version

Dont Breathe is supposed to have a sequel
And uhh...
All kids today want is more capeshit. I'm 19, I've been around them long enough to get a good general opinion on movies and EVERY SINGLE ONE thinks marvel movies are perfect
I've only ever heard criticism at Thor:Ragnorak and even then its just "ugh I don't like that one"

>I'm 19
Stopped reading there. Opinion discarded.

3 is based as fuck

clearly you don't understand the value of a slasher film for entertainment instead of actual scares

Oh yeah that too
Every black teen thinks IT (never in my fucking life have heard one actually call him his fucking name)and the purge are amazing
IT isnt bad but the purge? Pure garbage but let me tell you, they fucking love it. They love love love the purge movies

cause it's what they secretly all want to do

You didnt even read my post
The jokes arent funny and the kills aren't entertaining, the story isnt good either. So what should i give my hour and a half for? It's not entertaining. I never said they have to be scary

Purge should never have gone past the first one.

>Dream Warriors
>bad
lmao fuck off nerd, go back to capeshit, the adults are talking

>It
>having a name
it's name isn't Pennywise you dumb shit, that's just another of it's dozen or more aliases. The exact reason King calls the thing "It" is because it doesn't have a real identity. Why the fuck would a giant space spider have a name?

Lmao at all the SEETHING old fucks that cant handle an opinion
Dream warriors has only a few good kills, the rest is absolutely hilariously bad, like in a "it's so bad igood" way.
Also this: only 4 and 6 are the good Friday the 13th movies

As in they dont even know the name pennywise, they think the monster is literally called "it"

Why do boomers keep trying to force their shitty horror characters on people who don't give a fuck?

He's not scary. Let it go.

They just need to do a legit remake. Not a cheap rehash like the other remake did.

Make Freddy a real shifter which is what Craven intended but FX and budget wasn’t there.

Englund even thinks Freddy should be different people in each person’s dream

>It's not entertaining.
I disagree. The music and atmosphere alone make it worth watching. Add in a few cute girls and great practical effects (The giant snake Freddy, puppet kill, nurse shooting tongues, etc.) and you have a movie that's better than most coming out today.

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Oh man straight instant coffee into the mouth with a coke chaser.
Makes me sick just watching it.

And I'm telling you that as long as people understand what you're talking about, calling it, "It" is just as if not more accurate. Hearing someone call the monster "Pennywise" is cringe.
But don't let me knock you off your ivory tower looking down on all the "dumb zoomers" who apparently understood the story better than you did.

It, Halloween, Child’s Play reboot all financial hits. So obviously someone cares.

Maybe it’s because Zoomers are so void of anything but capeshit that can’t create their own horror icons. So these old boomer ones have to fill in the void

this
>like in a "it's so bad igood" way.
exactly the point

bros, why was she so damn cute back then?

also, Dokken! Fuck Yeah.

I mean, fuck, when Star Uris killed himself, he didn't write "Pennywise the Dancing Clown" in kike blood on the wall. I think he would know it's name better than us.

It's been a few years since I watched it, I just really hated the teens all going into a dream world and acting so whimsical and cheesy, but it's a product of the 80's.
I can respect your opinion, and yeah it had some neat practical effects. I just never liked the "dream" part if freddy, always felt way too fantasy for me. That's why I liked the remake, because freddy was ultra manlet pedo coward IRL and could only do harm when given dream demon powers
The mute kid screaming to save his friends just feels so campy to me. but not in the cheesy good slasher flick kinda way
Dont get me wrong the remake has a lot wrong with it
>asian kid dying on camera but still uploading video somehow
>they burn freddy's body instead of taking it to police
Etc
Look at the ending of NOES and the effect and tell me that isnt a fucking joke
Ty for being civil in your post I dont like old boomers being mean to me when I don't even like capeshit

She's training with Kali Muscle to get hueg and beat the shit out of Freddy, good idea desu

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>thinking you can physically hurt freddy

Dont try to tell me you know these fucking braindead black girl zoomers better than me
Dont you fucking dare. they are braindead, BRAINDEAD.
Show them NOES 3 and they wouldn't make it past the first minute. The only reason they go to horror movies is to see the black people in it.

Are there any good horror films made these days?

To the zoomer, racist capeshitter ITT:unironically kill yourself
I'm dead serious, hang yourself. Put a bullet in your skull. NOES 1-7 are perfect, every shot carefully planned with great, timeless effects and perfect kills. Kill yourself. I am not joking or half-meaning it, I truly wish death on you

Don't say racist like its a bad thing.
Also not that guy I like NOES.

Halloween 2018 was good despite it being a "stronk girls survive but every white male is dumb and dies" type deal with sassy black boy that makes the nig audiences erupt in laughter
All the blacks laughed at the mental patients in the beginning too, when the podcaster took out the mask. Micheal couldnt even see it, but he could almost sense it, and evil was in the air. The patients around him start to lose it, they can feel the pure evil emitting off Micheal and his mask
But what do the blacks in the theatre see?
>HAHAHA FUNNY DUMBASS CRAZY WHITE PEOPLE R RETARDED
Pissed me off so much to have a theatre laughing their ass off at that. Good thing i have the blu ray and can enjoy it without that now.

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>good idea
tell that to Debbie...oh wait

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I seldom go to theaters, except for some movies with heavy special effects. Even for those, lately I've been watching them mostly at home.

>fagboy zoomer says there are no good kills in this movie
god DAMN I want zoomies to go

Once again the brainless boomer cant even be bothered to read my post
Only fags deal in absolutes, I never said the movies had no good kills. You fucking retarded "old" (probably like 25) man

I only go for movies I'm hype for, so that makes the people in the audience being loud all the worse
A Quiet Place was a fucking nightmare, my personal hell on earth.

Well, torrent something called Quiet Earth, and watch it in the comfort of your home.

>Heather Langenkamp and Robert Englund both said they'd come back for a Halloween-style reboot of NOES

Produce this you fucking cowards

It may not kill him, but I'm pretty sure he feels it whenever he has been harmed in the films.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't. He ripped his own arm off in one of them and didn't seem to care.

>And 16 years since we’ve had a decent one.
Try over 30 years. Anything after Dream Warriors kinda sucked.

You didn't see A New Nightmare? It was on par with--if not better in some respects--than the first film.

I meant in the canonical series. I consider 'New Nightmare' its own thing. I agree that it's a good movie, It was of the first Horror movies I watched as a kid actually.

>You ever play skin the cat?

It's the age of James Wan and supernatural/possessed kids and dolls bullshit. Don't worry, it'll eventually die out and all the monsters and slasher villains will make a come back. I personally didn't like Halloween 2018 but its huge success gives me a little hope.

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Never. No one can replace Robert Englund as Freddy. Robert IS Freddy. So, unless he comes back then it's never going to be good.

Holy shit what an awful opinion.

>I'm 19
Your opinion is meaningless.

Fuck no. Horror is dead.

Fucking hell, that's absolutely amazing horrorkino.

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Friendly reminder to watch Never Sleep Again aka one of the absolute best documentaries of all time. 4 hours of fucking everything about every NOES (besides the dogshit reboot of course).

Whatever happened to all the grungy torture porn shit from the 2000's? I'm glad it's over but it just seemed like edgy sadistic bullshit was what horror turned into.

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Pretty great stuff. You can tell a lot of them really cared about the films and the behind the scenes info about how they did the practical effects is really interesting.

>be 19
>be raised on a steady stream of slashers
>find noes to be the best shit to ever grace cinema
Fuck capeshit. Stopped being fun awhile ago

Y’all want capeshit?
Freddy’s got ya covered

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That shit was fantastic

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hopefully so. he would just turn it into a pandering jumpscare cashcow

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>Guess you missed the boat on the reboot of IT being the biggest selling horror movie. Or Halloween 2018 being a big hit.

Well kids know clowns. Plus they fucking hate him.

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Walton Goggins is my pick if they must recast again.

Personally I want JEH back if they would just fix his make up and give us a completely fresh story unrelated to Nancy and not remaking any previous plot from the franchise.

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Where those really her boobs under water or just stunt boobs?

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it had this though
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Hard to tell. They look about the right size, but the few frames where you see her face it doesn't really look like her.

"Funny" slasher movies are fucking stupid and goddamn retarded. Neither funny nor scary. Just shitty.

That's idiotic, then.

entertaining doesn't automatically mean funny

They need to make one that's surreal and weird. I'd get Noah Hawley from Legion to do it!!!FACT!!!

>Only good freddy movies are 1, freddy vs Jason, and the remake

ANOES 1/3/4 make for a near perfect trilogy except that Patricia Arquette didn't come back for 4 which is my personal favorite of the series. Kinda like how Star Trek 2/3/4 is also near perfect but taken down a notch by Kirstie Alley not playing Saavik in 3 and 4!!!FACT!!!

Craven was genuinely great at creating an aura of disturbing dread and doom. ANOES is his masterpiece and a classic!!!FACT!!!

>the few frames where you see her face it doesn't really look like her.
Darn, they do look nice.

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Why don't we all face it that the Horror genre peaked in the 80's, died in 1989 and has been in the shitter ever since. In 1988 Horror was booming with ANOES 4, Halloween 4, Friday the 13th 7, The Blob, Child's Play, Night of the Demons, Hellraiser 2, Pumpkinhead, Phantasm 2, Elvira Mistress of the Dark (yeah that's right, fuck you), Killer Klowns from Outer Space, Return of the Living Dead 2, They Live, Sleepaway Camp 2 etc... all released that year. Afterwards EVERY SINGLE FRANCHISE went right into the fucking toilet, even movies like Alien 3, Predator 2 or mainstream action flicks like Lethal Weapon 3 or Die Hard 3 sucked compared to that made in the 80's.

Didn't help that after Reagan deregulated the market and removed anti-trust laws, the major studio's started consolidating the market and conspired with the MPAA to kill off independents who specialized in Horror.

For anyone who wants to know how great that era was, watch Fangoria's Weekend of Horror's which was shot in LA in December of 1985 and released on video in 86 and how I discovered Freddy Kreuger!!!FACT!!! youtu.be/jjarx7G2Kb8

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>All the blacks
This is america.

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>handsome boys dying
NOT INTERESTED

You still know the intentions of the writers/director though which was to make them look retarded and appeal to POC and feminist audiences.

you fail at math

Yeah, is callled Nightmare on Elm Street

BASED

>Die Hard 3 sucked compared to that made in the 80's
I agreed with everything you said before but fuck you, Die Hard 3 is great and there's nothing you can do to change my mind.

It truly was the best decade for horror, I'm not sure if I can pinpoint why. Every decade has there standouts but the 80s had quality horror every single year and lovable cult classics like no other decade. The 90s were generally great for cinema but horror took a serious beating, I don't know what happened, I think people's tastes just changed as movies became more serious and dependent on CG

>Friendly reminder to watch Never Sleep Again aka one of the absolute best documentaries of all time.

Can confirm!!!FACT!!!

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I think it's because there was a lot of variety (slashers, sci-fi horror, body horror, supernatural, erotic, comedies) but a unifying feel to it all; a sense of fun tempered with an edge (no modern horror comedy would go as far as AWIL or Night of the Creeps in terms of actual scares). Most of the best films from the era were also made by directors who were sincere fans, not just giggling reference machines or mainstream directors ''exploring'' the genre.

It was also still possible to spawn genre-exclusive stars like Jeffrey Combs, Robert Englund, Lance Henriksen, Bruce Campbell, Linnea Quigley (and various other scream queens); that sort of cult of personality doesn't really happen for horror movies anymore, and if there is a role reserved for genre stars, it's usually a cameo (Tony Todd in Hellfest, Englund in various Sci-Fi originals).

>he's such a relic of the 1980s

The idea of a dream monster could work in any era but Freddy Krueger has been ran into the ground and trying to make a similar concept would get everyone crying about how it's a shitty rip off.

I always thought a tv series would be a better way to reintroduce Freddy to new people while still keeping old fans interested. The remake was shit for a few reasons, but a big one was that it was just a rehash of the original, but done worse. My idea would be to have it set over 4 or 5 seasons with each season featuring a different cast of teens in a new decade each season starting in the 80s going to present day. I always liked the characters in the Elm Street movies because they feel a bit more developed than most other slashers victims (not much, but a little). With a tv show, you can get a lot more of that character development so their deaths are all that more meaningful, I'd want the first season to end with all or most of the teens dying. Freddy Wins. Season 2, one of the protagonists could be a surviving relative of one of the previous season's victims. Each season you/the characters learn just a little bit more about Freddy. The final season would probably be the Dream Warriors, led by the Dream Master trying to permanently put Freddy down.

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and one that is under-utilized, considering Englund's association in everyone's mind as freddy

this may sound ridiculous, but I'm noticing how hypnotic those late 80s slashers can be, some 30 years removed. It's subtle, but I love how otherworldly every shot becomes in movies like those. Knowing that everything is shot on 35mm, seeing the labels/packaging for products that don't exist anymore or have been redesigned, the different clothes, etc. 80s slasher films had this teen campiness that I also notice in 80s high-school comedies

>16 years since we’ve had a decent one
probably 32

No New Nightmare is great.

>England suggested Kevin Bacon play Freddy

Ooooh, I like that. Bacon's getting old though. Dude's already 61. Would work with the idea that Freddy looks different to every person though.

Purge is a fantastic concept but even the first movie already completely fucked up the execution, and the sequels probably just kept serving diminishing returns, so I never saw them. But that doesn't change the fact that under the right people it could have been a decent horror franchise with big how far will you go moral questions as its foundation. Now it's just cheap shit with decent gimmick.

The first movie really should have built more on the personal relationships in the neighborhood at the beginning and made the later moral complexities of whether or not they send the black dude out more difficult, because the movie loses all steam after halfway through and just starts to meander around. Like, the black dude should have been a little kid or something, so it would have been far harder to say "fuck him, we need to protect our family.". And the twist with the cunt neighbors was too lame, because they never really build the distaste properly and it's done in a way where's it's far too obvious of a twist.

Here's your Freddy Krueger bro

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I mean, it is literally called IT.

IIRC, in the book, they only call it Pennywise a couple times, every other time that name is used, it's when IT uses it.

But he's ugly.

I liked Halloween. I appreciate them cutting off all the sequels and just going right back to basics.

I was keen for Terminator Dark Fate for the same reason, but now I'm not so sure.

I like your sense of humor, kid. That's why I'm killing you last.

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I think Craven and me share a similar fright of hobo/leper type characters.

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I wish we could get a new Friday the 13th movie, something that takes it back to the way it used to be, not the shitty torture porn style, or the dumb fucking worm possession plot.

That said, Jason X was great, cos of how camp it was.

So what recent recurring slasher killers do we have in our drought? I'd say Art, Crowley and Babyface. The first two are pretty good imo. Did I miss any?

Decentish b8, maybe tone down the buzzwords a little but
>NOES 1-7 are perfect, every shot carefully planned with great, timeless effects and perfect kills
is good shit.

>Halloween 2018 was good despite it being a "stronk girls survive but every white male is dumb and dies" type deal
So it was good despite being horrifically bad?

Didn't they kind of pivot toward PG-13 ghost shit for a while? That hard R rating didn't really optimise profits and the excessive gore got bad press. Plus you can see worse torture/gore in mainstream normalfaggot shit like Game of Thrones now. No market.

It's meh to OK at best but what annoys me is it isn't a Die Hard movie. Die Hard is specifically action in an enclosed location the protagonist can't leave, but 3 is just random action all over the place.

great movie.

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Chill bro

So everyone here likes NOES for the kills and practical effects and everyone hates Freddy as a character because he's cringe but also a pedo, right?

I don't hate Freddy, but they overdid the comedy angle in the latter movies. He was best in Part 1. A sadistic blend of tasteless comedy, without going out of his way to quip every 2 seconds.
If they ever do a new movie/tv series I hope they just emulate the tone of the first movie.

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Yeah, there was that Paranormal Activity phase, just like there was that short found footage era where everybody tried doing them

Freddy's great, but they did kinda turn him too much into a quipmeister.

This, it's not that hard to get it right. Freaking out his victims by cutting his fingers and laughing about it is great, wearing a cape and calling himself Super Freddy is retarded and horrible. As long as his sense of humour is fucked up and evil, it makes him more interesting. Sure, you might say it's unclear exactly where the line is, but you know Super Freddy is way over it.

He is only a pedo in the remake.

And Freddy as a character is great in 1, 2, 3, New & Vs.

He was meant to be in the OG movies too, but there was some sort of pedo thing going on in the news at the time, so Wes Craven changed it.

sensible decision, changes his apparent motivation from someone that covets innocence to someone that destroys it.

pretty sure raping a child would indeed destroy their innocence???

destroy as in kill, not figurativly.

This probably sounded a lot more clever in your little brain.

He's clearly implied to be a Pedo at the start of Freddy V Jason

It's also stated in a newspaper article that's visible in 5. I think it's better left implied though, for the same reason we never see him kill any little kids. Implied, it's creepy and evocative. Outright stated it's just depressing.