Why yes Zod, I'm truly delighted I'm not the last one of our race

Zod’s neck: snapped

Mars is not in the Goldilocks Zone?

You know, in case they find a world with rare conditions that turn every kryptonian into an invincible flight-enabled super human that can power their entire energy grid with their eyeballs, in which case they really need to fix it ASAP.

>Superman willingly complies to help Zod rebuild Krypton on Mars
>He goes in their ship, has his blood extracted till he's almost dead
>Throw him toward the sun
>Bring him back
>Repeat
>Zod has the codex now
>Rebuilds Krypton

You managed to be even dumber than the MoS writers, that's quite a feat.

I think it is just about.

I always thought that was super bullshit about Superman, like this intergalactic spacefaring race of Kryptonians never found out that yellow stars turn them into gods?

Surface of Mars near the equator is around 70 F/20 C. Plenty warm for invincible flying super-people.

Superman also had the codex as a key. It's what Meloni used to capture the other Kryptonians. Another thing is that Zod thought the only key was Superman.

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ZOD GO HOME

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Kryptonians only extract one vial of Superman's blood. The Kryptonian scientist realizes it's not enough after Superman has already escaped. Zod comes on Earth and decides to fuck shit up instead of asking nicely

>Flying through a grain silo makes it explode

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>Mr Snyder, is it really a good idea to have Superman fly through a nuclear power plant and then through a gas station, killing civilians in the process
Zach:"No, you're right. It's not.... enough. I want Superman to kill more civilians. Have him fly through buildings in Metropolis too, it'll be really cool

You seem alright, don’t ever work in a sugar factory.

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>Transforming a planet into Krypton
>Terraforming
>Not "Kryptonforming"
This rustled my jimmies beyond belief.

grain silo explosions happen fucking constantly, it's a wonder they're still in common use.

Dust is flammable now ?
What causes the ignition then ?

Why not push Venus or Mars into a habitable orbit and then terraform one of those?

Friction, nigga bees steel skin and fucking up steel and sheeit

heat. silos are fucking hot as hell inside, especially in the mass of grain where there's no ventilation, and with the rapid influx of oxygen with the new hole added to the silo, it's not hard to reach the autoignition point.

Superman was so consumed with rage because Zod was fucking with his mother as you can see in the webm.

he was weaponized autism

His daddy-o knew in Man of Steel. So at least in the DCU they knew.

Needed more Faora.

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Did you forget Zod wanted to murder Kal-El for revenge against Jor-El?

Imagine if white people did this

>actual reason: It's not big enough to hold an atmosphere, just not enough gravity.
Of course, I don't think anyone knew that, they just forgot other planets existed. It would take billions of years for an atmosphere to disperse from Mars.

i'm not sure they had the equipment to physically move an entire planet, only to terraform the surface and atmosphere of one.

> >actual reason: It's not big enough to hold an atmosphere, just not enough gravity.

Isn't the lack of magnetic field the actual reason for that, since solar winds were ionizing the atmosphere, slowly diminishing it until it was gone?

> 1) Stay on Earth until you get powers.
> 2) Move planet to habitable zone.
> 3) ???
> 4) Profit

the visuals are so good on these films, sucks that they didnt use them right. Some more serious villain like braniac couldve used these types of machines, with zod it shouldve just been a brawl, they shouldve saved the big guns for the jusiteace league movie, nit squander them so early

That's correct. The lack of magnetosphere allows the charged solar wind to erode the atmosphere. In principle you can produce your own planetary dipole magnetic field from the surface but you'd need to have the tech to produce it. It doesn't need to come from the planet itself.

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Zod admired Jor-El.

Don't they say during the film that the world machine is altering the earth's density? I'm pretty sure it could fix that up.

>hemodialysis machine is beyond kryptonian capacity

You can't write a shitpost without making SOME concessions

>And not a day goes by where it doesn't haunt me. But if I had to do it again, I would.
Doesn't seem very revengy.

True. So he decides to leave his mother with 3 other superpowered motherfuckers because she can totally fight them off by herself.

Consumed with rage, he wasn't thinking right.

they had world engines, and even if they didn't, kryptonians would be fine on mars

Yeah that's Superman alright. Easily consumed with rage to the point he forgets other people's lives. Since beating people up is always more important to him than protecting someone like his own fucking mother.

What a great hero

Calm down, Lex.

Wasn't that like literally his first day as Superman?

>10 years later
>and a capeshit film is still too complicated for him

it's time to go back son

>Yeah that's Superman alright

He had barely been Superman in Man of Steel, he had only learnt to fly and used his heat vision for the very first time

Yeah it was. Which means it totally excuses him for endangering civilian lives himself when even the villains didn't do that. Truly a great hero. Forgetting your own mother's life and the lives of innocent civilians would totally be normal for someone to do.

disney fags seething this movie is one that will be talked about after capeshit dies. a cult classic and no matter how hard you fags try, it will stand the test of time.

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Remember when he travels the world playing vigilante and lifting oil rigs? Superman is a menace.

>Failed in starting it's own universe so bad it literally killed the characters off from the franchise
>Stand the test of time
Ok

He gets thrown around like a ragdoll in the final battle, i dont remember him flying trough buildings on purpose. The Avengers killed like 200 people in the beginning of AoU while making jokes, if you want killer heroes.

>Literally takes the fight from a farm to a populated area
>dont remember him flying trough buildings on purpose
guess that webm is fanmade then

>It's 2019 and DCucks are still around

HAHAHAHAHAH OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

There's bigger fish to fry. Gotta kill Zod, his underlings and the fucking terraformers. Tens of thousands are dying every minute you leave those devices running, playing the 'lets move the fight to the mountains' game isn't going to work with Zod, if anything he should have caused more random destruction to force Supes into submission, either because he can't save everyone falling from buildings, or as happens in the fucking movies, killing Zod is priority No.1 because he's going to do more damage in this time than trying to move the fight.

Synder's an edgelord, but in the setting he rolled with, he was right. Mythical 'empty islands/buildings' is comics copout. This is the result of god mode monsters duking it out in your cities, when they want to take over your fucking planet and you can't even resist (which makes later DCU stupid because that's the fucking instant every other super in hiding would need to act).

I was talking about this webm
follow the thread before you respond

>that wheelchair is starting to explode. that's pretty weird
>the explosion is getting bigger; i should probably do something about that before someone gets hurt
>i could contain the fire, or freeze it, or take the whole thing into the sky or something
>actually, i don't feel like doing any superactivities today. i'll just stand around and everyone in this building die, instead

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>superman isn't perfect on his first day
>"not a hero"

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but he looked sad user isn't that enough?
what more do you want?!

They deserved it, desu. Goddamn commies.

i hate snyder but you shouldn't just assume his version of superman can do all of that, especially at those speeds

>forgetting your mother's life
>endangering civilians out of nowhere
>causing massive property damage and casualties when you weren't even being attacked
>it's all ok nobody's perfect!
not even regular people would be that reckless if they had powers but ok

>that wheelchair is starting to explode. that's pretty weird
>the explosion is getting bigger; i should probably do something about that before someone gets hurt
you literally didn't understand that scene
>i could contain the fire, or freeze it, or take the whole thing into the sky or something
how the fuck would he do that? lift a broken building? we don't see him using freeze breath. how the fuck would he contain a fire? piss on it?
>actually, i don't feel like doing any superactivities today. i'll just stand around and everyone in this building die, instead
you are too stupid for a capeshit film

>getting people killed unnecessarily is heroic since nobody is perfect
you don't even deserve a reaction image

So, he's not Superman then. Gotcha.

you know there have been many versions of the character over the years, right?

I dunno, would Superman do this ?

Hey man, I'm doing the baiting here. Get off my thread.

>you literally didn't understand that scene
Let me guess. "Superman" was too distracted to notice the bomb.
>how the fuck would he do that? lift a broken building? we don't see him using freeze breath. how the fuck would he contain a fire? piss on it?
Literally anything, you stupid piece of shit. He's SUPERMAN. He can time travel and repair the Great Wall of China with his eyes. Use some fucking imagination, you cynical shithead.

Yeah, and every version has him performing wondrous feats. Synder has to nerf the shit out of him to make him fit into his movie.

he also nerfed his moral compass

superman has been nerfed many times over. are you really not aware of this? cartoon superman is a popular example

They point is that he was programmed to recreate krypton and it needed matter to feed the world engine or something

>how the fuck would he do that? lift a broken building? we don't see him using freeze breath. how the fuck would he contain a fire? piss on it?
wrap his indestructible cape around it
take everyone out the building

and why would he do that for some puny humans?

>you can't terraform a dead planet
>zod needed the codex and wanted to kill kal-el because of his abhorrent birth
>zod restoring krypton's atmosphere conditions would have affected the power derived from earth's yellow sun
There. I ended your brainlet thread.

>would not have affected
fixed

>talked about

more like shit on

This isn't Superman 4 dummy

He was legitimately mentally handicapped. That’s why he was so hellbent on terraforming the planet when he could have instead just ruled over it like a god.

Terraforming the planet doesn't affect the sun's wavelength.

still mad

Are you a retard? The movie clearly states that, within the film's canon, it is a combination of red son and Krypton's atmosphere that kept them unpowered. Which is why Superman loses his powers when on Zod's ship, since the ship replicates Krypton's atmosphere.

Like, are you fucking dumb? They state this in the movie you fucking retard.

>The Avengers killed like 200 people in the beginning of AoU while making jokes, if you want killer heroes
They're enemy combatants who are literally shooting at the Avengers? Are you fucking autistic? This discussion is about the deaths of civilians because MoS superman is either a cunt, a sociopath, or a moron.

still dead

The atmosphere contributes in part to their powers

They knew, which is part of why space travel was banned among kryptonians. In the comics (and alluded to in the movie with how they abandoned space travel) the Kryptonians almost took over most of the known universe and became tyrants due to yellow sun power. The rest of the known universe rebelled against them and fought them back. Afterward they were defeated and driven beack to their homeworld, Krypton banned space travel so that it wouldnt happen again. Hence the abandoned spaceship Clark finds.

>Flash can move fast enough that he can spend 10 seconds staring at a flying batarang and it's still within grabbing range or knock down an armed robber so fast the store CCTV only sees a shimmer
>Superman is fast enough to see this individual and very nearly punch him

Go back to shitting on the street DC Pajeet, you lost this battle when BvS came out

>MoS superman is either a cunt, a sociopath, or a moron.
I'd say all 3

No he didn't. That was literally a red herring. The codex is clark clark is the codex.

>general Zod, the conditions in this planet is strenghtening our bodies at an astonish rate
>Jor-El's son has been here his whole life absorbing energy from the sun
>I recommend we spend at least the sunny season here powering ourselves before facing him

manofsteelanswers.com/man-of-steel-myths-earths-atmosphere-powers-kryptonians/

You can't blame him for that anons. He was "consumed with rage" which, as we all know, is Superman's most defining characteristic. This apparently also means that everything he does is excusable since we all know you can't be responsible for your actions when rage comes into the equation.
See

Which is played as a mistake Superman made. Notice how when he realizes where he is, he immediately tries to fly away but is grabbed by one of Zod's henchmen and forced to keep fighting in Smallville.

Its like you didn't even watch the movie.

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And he was a good friend

baste

>What does affect Kryptonian powers? The presence of Kryptonian atmospherics. Superman’s strength returns not because he’s breathing Earth atmospherics but because the Kryptonian atmospherics are displaced.

Literally what I said.

Yes. Like I said, you can't blame him for something like that. I mean who among us hasn't been infuriated and totally forgot what human lives are worth you know? It's just a mistake. We all know being as prone to "rage" as he is is totally normal right?

This. If you kill someone while drunk with rage, it's that person's fault for ticking you off.

Based Snyder

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How does he forget what human lives are worth if his immediate next action is to try and take the fight elsewhere? He had literally one moment of weakness. At no other point does he endager anyone else's life. Zod chooses to go to metropolis.

Clark has a single moment where he accidentally takes the fight to Smallville and then immediatly tries to take it elsewhere.

I think you are a sociopath. You can't seem to understand normal human emotions or understand how humans make errors due to emotions.

I hope you get help.

is that some bendis bullshit or is that a bit older retcon

That's what I've been saying. It's totally Zod's fault that he got pissed off and killed people. Honest mistake.

see

That is at least from the Byrne era.

Except Superman didn't kill anyone, dumbass. It's really sad you people have to make things up to criticize this movie for.

I know right? A normal human, when faced with a threat to the life of his mother, would leave his mother alone to the threat and disregard human lives in "one moment of weakness". It's totally ok though since he's sorry after.

Sure Superman taking the fight to Metropolis crashing into that 7-11 and gas station didn't kill anyone. Ok.

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>marvelets still shit on MoS
its the most solid of the DC films, don't fucking deny it

>Sure Superman taking the fight to Metropolis

He didn't, he took it to Smallville and immediately tried to leave after. It's very telling that you don't even know what happened in the movie :^)

>when faced with a threat to the life of his mother, would leave his mother alone to the threat

He does the opposite of that by attacking the person threatening her, which is what anyone would do. You autist.

> and disregard human lives in "one moment of weakness".

He is literally saving his mother's (human) life in that moment. He punches zod to smallville and then immediately tries to leave. Are you saying humans never make mistakes? Jesus, you are a sociopath.

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i'm no DCuck you moron. like i said earlier i hate snyder, but shitting on a superman movie because he doesn't have the same powers as your favorite version is retarded

>fight against them all right in front of your mother, where they're sure to get her and use her as leverage
>carry one of them away and at least have the chance of them immediately following you, leaving your mother safe

Just noticed the accident counter...

>He is saving his mother by taking out one guy out of the four that are attacking her and taking him far away enough that he can't react to the other three
You're totally right user how did I not see that? If he takes out Zod then Martha could take the rest. I apologize user you're right. Because trying to defuse the situation is totally not an option.

He, remember in Civil War when Captain America, Falcon and Black Widow took down the Helicarriers of the HYRDA-infested S.H.I.E.L.D. organization? Full of innocent people that had no idea they were working for Hydra?

Oh but it's okay since Disney magically retconned it as only having killed 23 people (despite the entire thing being taken down LOL)

>He had literally one moment of weakness.
Right. He's a totally stable and sane guy.

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>takes out leader, the only one actually threatening to do anything to his mother
>cronies shown multiple times to do exactly as Zod tells them to do, so no chance of them killing his mom without Zod's orders (and if they did, they wouldn't have a barganing chip)
>cronies all follow Superman when he hits zod, showing that his plan of action was 100% the right one to take

It's like you enjoy being retarded.

Year is 2033 Snyder cut is finally released.
It's shit but have to call it Kino

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>takes out leader, the only one actually threatening to do anything to his mother
>cronies shown multiple times to do exactly as Zod tells them to do, so no chance of them killing his mom without Zod's orders (and if they did, they wouldn't have a barganing chip)
>cronies all follow Superman when he hits zod, showing that his plan of action was 100% the right one to take

It's like you also enjoy being retarded.

Destroying people's vehicles is classic Superman. He literally does it on the cover of Action Comics #1. also see Also its a truck for trucking cross country. It is 100% insured against acts of god/unexplainable actions and is owned by the trucking company.

I'm sorry you are a child who doesn't understand how the world works.

I have literally only seen people talk about this movie on 4channel

he didn't have superspeed in BvS

you think you're making a good point, but you're not

>Destroying people's vehicles is classic Superman. He literally does it on the cover of Action Comics #1. also see

Right.

Except in both those cases he did it to stop a crime.

In MoS he does it out of rage because "peeple are meen", you retarded, dickless shithead.

Exactly user! When someone you care about is being threatened by multiple people the right course of action is always violence and not to try and diffuse the situation! Now you're thinking like Superman! Plus since you're the main character then the director will make sure that the bad guys don't hurt your mother right?
>Also its a truck for trucking cross country. It is 100% insured against acts of god/unexplainable actions and is owned by the trucking company.
Fuck the insurance company and whoever else has to clean up that mess right?

What bothers me is you're trying to portray his actions as unstable and the act of a madman when they are very human reactions.

Am I weird for still hating that they took away his stupid red underwear? I mean, i know it's technically pretty dumb looking but that's his fucking costume and we were so used to it.
I guess i just don't like when the writers seem ashamed of the inherent nerdiness of the property.

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>In MoS he does it out of rage because "peeple are meen"

If he really acted out of rage he would have hurt the guy.

He destroys an object, hurting no one in the process, which is immediately followed up by him saving an oil rig full of people for no reason.

The entire point is to show that he has two paths he can go down and the power to be bad or good, but that it is ultimately up to him to decide.

Zod forces him to pick one or the other, and he picks good.

Like, have you never seen a movie before or read a story? It starts with a character having a flaw and then they grow and change to no longer have that flaw (or least start in the direction of no longer having that flaw).

It's called a character arc. He isn't even wearing the suit yet at that point, so he isn;'t a hero, just a dude with super powers.

Yeah you dumb motherfucker, but they're not GOOD human reactions. They're the baser urges that we avoid. Yeah, if someone slags me off I could go to his house and stab his dog thirty times, and I would probably get away with it. But that's not a good fucking answer to someone in a bar calling me a dickhead, that's the act of a psychopath abusing the power he has for revenge. It's certainly not the actions of a man standing as the virtues of truth, justice and the American way.

Comic book Superman has very human emotions without being a fucking sociopath.

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see
Once again, him destroying the truck and attacking Zod out of anger is shown to be a MISTAKE. It is okay for characters to make mistakes and learn from them.

Try watching more movies and reading more stories, you will see that this a common theme. I'm sorry you sociopaths can't understand how humans make mistakes.

He's just a dumbass who doesn't understand Superman. Endangering people, leaving your mother to superpowered individuals because you're mad, causing property damage that punish multiple people because one guy was evil, these are all very human reactions and are in total character with Superman.

You're right it wasn't out of rage. He did it to show people there are two paths he could take. That was exactly what he was thinking of when he did that.

I refuse to continue this debate if you don't stop formatting your posts like a retard.

>mars.nasa.gov/news/453/scientists-say-mars-has-a-liquid-iron-core/
If the World Engine can increase the gravity of a planet, it does so through adding mass to the planet. Probably through the core. The WE could easily re-spin the Martian Core as easily as it adds mass to it.

All mars lacks after this is atmosphere, which the WE generates. Mars has water and LOTS of resources. It's by no means dead or uninhabitable. It's cold, but survivable, and adding an atmosphere would make it even warmer.

Sure, terraforming Mars was risky, but less risky than terraforming a planet with an existing civilization protected by a living god that could tear your machines to pieces.

Zod was arrogant and stupid.

Nothing he does is sociopathic. Even the thing you are talking about, attacking someone threatening his mother, is the opposite of sociopathic since it is based on emotion and caring for another human.

It's really really sad that you repeat these words and don't know what they mean.

>He destroys an object, hurting no one in the process,
OH ALRIGHT THEN. Guess i'll just vent by bashing your fucking tail lights with a baseball bat, I mean, no harm done amirite

>You're right it wasn't out of rage. He did it to show people there are two paths he could take. That was exactly what he was thinking of when he did that.

Yikes! You don't understand the difference between story reasoning and character motivation? You really are autistic!

Of course he was mad, but, like I keep repeating, what he did is shown to be a MISTAKE.

t. has no argument

Why did you ignore the rest of my post? Here, I'll repeat it for you. It is a mistake that he learns and grows from. No one, not even the movie, is saying it was the right course of action.

If he really acted out of rage he would have hurt the guy.

He destroys an object, hurting no one in the process, which is immediately followed up by him saving an oil rig full of people for no reason.

The entire point is to show that he has two paths he can go down and the power to be bad or good, but that it is ultimately up to him to decide.

Zod forces him to pick one or the other, and he picks good.

Like, have you never seen a movie before or read a story? It starts with a character having a flaw and then they grow and change to no longer have that flaw (or least start in the direction of no longer having that flaw).

It's called a character arc. He isn't even wearing the suit yet at that point, so he isn;'t a hero, just a dude with super powers.

Now, this time, actually read it and respond to the WHOLE thing.

>Nothing he does is sociopathic
Smiling before putting a terrorist through a fucking concrete wall-which at the very least must've crippled the man- is not sociopathic?
And then going to Batman and having the nerve to telling him to stop being Batman because he uses very "harsh" methods to deal with criminals?
That's not sociopathic, coming from a guy that can juggle cars with his hands?

Forgetting your girlfriend's birthday, getting cranky at someone because you had a bad day, destroying property that other people will have to pay for to clean up, forgetting your mom's life, getting people killed because you're angry, all honest mistakes right?

>Yikes! You don't understand the difference between story reasoning and character motivation? You really are autistic!
>He didn't do it out of rage
>Of course he was mad
WTF?

>Now, this time, actually read it and respond to the WHOLE thing.

He remember when Captain America blew up that helicarrier with innocent people on it? What a sociopath.

Remember when Scarlet Witch intentionally blew up that building full of people? What a fucking crazed sociopath she is!

youtube.com/watch?v=UWrD-_utY3k

>Smiling before putting a terrorist through a fucking concrete wall-which at the very least must've crippled the man- is not sociopathic?

Smiling at a hostage to comfort them is no sociopathic no. What is sociopathic is how Iron Man and the Avengers make jokes while actively killing people and sentient aliens. That is incredibly sociopathic, to be flinging jokes like all of these lives don't matter to you.

>And then going to Batman and having the nerve to telling him to stop being Batman because he uses very "harsh" methods to deal with criminals?

Because Batman was killing people. Telling someone to stop killing people is the opposite of sociopathic.

You really made yourself look like an idiotic fool with your terrible choice of examples.

>hey zoddy zod
>while earth seems like a better candidate you'd have to roll over 7 billion humans with a crew of only about 15 to end them
>if it was a only couple of million of them then it would be an easy job, but I think you should reconsider it
>you've analysed their languages, you must've noticed they have a hard-on for meeting other civilized species
>let's cool off a bit while we enlist some eager human scientists to hep us with the mars project
>use the world engine to strengthen the core and restart it's magnetic fields, then borrow a couple of nukes to recreate the atmosphere
>we cool?
>great, let's talk about krypton in the meantime, I'm sure you have plenty to tell

>Still can't respond to the whole thing
>instead of having an argument I'll autistically screech about "formatting"

Yikes! Pic related is you.

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I don’t think that’s how gravity works.

>Yeah, if someone slags me off I could go to his house and stab his dog thirty times
false equivalence, the truck being destroyed is a superhuman's equivalent of keying someone's car, which many normal, non-psychopathic people would readily do in anger if someone disrespected them and they couldn't retaliate/defend themselves.

seriously, it's just property. you're acting like superman tied up the dude's parents and slowly broke their bones.

Ahahahah you know how I know you are ESL? Because you think rage and anger are the same thing.

Rage is literally defined as "uncontrollable anger". The very fact that he was able to direct his anger at something other than the person who he was angry at shows that it was indeed controllable.

So yeah, he didn't act out of rage. He was mad and made mistake which is fine.

>forgetting your mom's life

Never does that, nice that you have to make stuff up.

>getting people killed because you're angry

Also never does that.

You should watch a quick video of someone playing Universe Sandbox sometime.

>Smiling at a hostage to comfort them is no sociopathic no. What is sociopathic is how Iron Man and the Avengers make jokes while actively killing people and sentient aliens. That is incredibly sociopathic, to be flinging jokes like all of these lives don't matter to you.
>b-but marvel
brilliant retort

So you're arguing that Superman shouldn't hold himself to a higher standard because of his powers, he should be just as weak and indulgent as the rest of us even though his losing control can topple buildings or break people in half, got it.

The exact opposite of the Superman ideal.

I also seem to remember another iconic superhero having a slogan that had to do with this... something about... with great power comes great responsibility?

>Rage is literally defined as "uncontrollable anger"
Which is why I was giving him the benefit of the doubt by attributing what he did to rage instead of just anger. If he was willing to do that just because he's angry, imagine what he'll do when he's actually pissed.
>forgetting your mom's life
>Never does that
Yes because she was totally safe with the 3 other Kryptonians he left her with. I'm sure they'd protect her while he beats up their leader.
>getting people killed because you're angry
>Also never does that.
Yes of course not. Taking the fight to Smallville while blowing up things on the way is ok since the people who live there are as tough as Kryptonians right?

Why should Superman hold himself to a higher standard? What do you think he is some kind of hero?

>zod spent the last days of Krypton unleashing civil war and trying to erase unpure bloodlines
>fanatic military commander who was born and bred for the sole purpose of kryptonian dominance
>unironically uses word like heresy to justify killing a newborn child
>refers to earth as squalor, clearly has no respect for humanity

>b-b-but why didn't they just talk

>>while earth seems like a better candidate you'd have to roll over 7 billion humans with a crew of only about 15 to end them
humans literally posed the threat of an anthill without superman's intervention

also the idea of sharing a solar system peacefully with another species is total retardation

Zod wanted to kill the people of earth too, plus he had a personal vendetta againdt the house of El

the first example is smiling and then crippling / killing the hostage taker
>Smiling at a hostage to comfort them is no sociopathic no
You completely dodged his (probable) murder of the african guy you fucking slippery pajeet

The above also happens to completely invalidate your next argument so it's terribly convenient of you to let that point slip through your poo-stained fingers

shut up faggot as if you would of cared either way people like you are fucking gross, you hate the movie because someone told you to hate it. Man of Steel is by far the best capeshit.

will you imbeciles ever stop posting this uggo bull dyke?

Excuse me DC Pajeet but I take umbrage with a people who can't learn to poo in loo telling me that I'm gross

I also take issue with people who eat the cinematic shit that is On the Nose and Murderer vs Murderer telling me the same

>Murderer vs Murderer
top kek at how true this shit is

>I also seem to remember another iconic superhero having a slogan that had to do with this... something about... with great power comes great responsibility?
Yeah and after hearing that he let a violent criminal go because it wasn't his problem.

>B-B-BUT THAT'S AGAINST SPIDERMAN'S HEROIC IDEAL
yes, that's the point, it was a mistake and later in the movie and then the sequels he grows into the superhero role further.

maybe you should think a little harder before you make such retarded points. i would agree with you if Superman continued to act this way after the Smallville fight and into BvS, but he doesn't.

You still don't know what anger means. Or "pissed" for that matter. Anger is an emotion that can be felt at varying degrees. Rage would be feeling anger to such a degree that you can't control it. He obviously could control it since he directed his anger at something else.

If you, somehow, think "pissed" is a high degree of anger then you really need to work on your English, Pajeet.

>Yes because she was totally safe with the 3 other Kryptonians he left her with

Yes, because they had been shown as following Zod's orders, almost religiously, and would not kill her if he didn't tell them to. Also she is their only bargaining chip. They want the codex, killing Superman's mom would not help them achieve that goal. This is really, really basic logic. Are you genuinely mentally handicapped?

> Taking the fight to Smallville while blowing up things on the way is ok since the people who live there are as tough as Kryptonians right?

No, it isn't okay. Which is why I keep saying it was a mistake. He made a mistake and learned from it. Just like Scarlet Witch in Civil War.

It is literally his first day with flight, which is more of an excuse than Scarlet Witch ever had.

>no counter argument

brilliant retort.

>not laughing with you... but at you

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Here's the retort, Sanjay try and keep up

>You completely dodged his (probable) murder of the african guy you fucking slippery pajeet

He didn't murder him you idiotic pajeet. If he did, it would have been explicitly stated during the trial or shown.

He smiled at a hostage to comfort them. That is the most superman thing you can do.

Here's my response, Sanjay try and keep up :^)

The difference is that Spider-Man actually learned his lesson, as you point out literally hours after being told that catchphrase and then lived by it for the rest of his days

Meanwhile as we've discussed Superman continues to murder people, cause collateral damage and overall not give a fuck all the way through MoS and then through BvS as well. He doesn't actually have an arc or anything he learns except that he gets the cape and decides to stop being a drifter.

(Unless of course you count the absolutely embarassing backtrack they had to do in Justice League by making him happy and jovial because audiences hated Cavill's superman and couldn't connect with him at all because of the very issues you're arguing in defense of)

>Gives an explanation of anger instead of answering the point
So if he is capable of doing that shit just because he's angry what will he do then he's "at a higher stage of anger" then?
>Also she is their only bargaining chip.
So realistically, they would have taken her instead of leaving her there like Snyder told them to do?
>Which is why I keep saying it was a mistake
Yeah you're right. Forgetting people's lives and getting them killed unnecessarily is just an honest mistake. Anybody would have done the same thing. And why do you keep trying to bring up the MCU? Even in your example the bomb was either going to explode in the ground or in midair. She just lost control trying to save the people on the ground, not getting people killed because she just had to hit Zod.

>Meanwhile as we've discussed Superman continues to murder people, cause collateral damage and overall not give a fuck all the way through MoS and then through BvS as well.

Literally not true. Superman never murders anyone except for Zod.

After Smallville, he is never once shown to bring a fight a populated area, and in fact tries consistently to do the opposite.

What the fuck now you're calling other people Poos? What is this cope this is really weird.

Are you a fucking Reddit drifter or a Summerfag who's unaware of the DC Pajeet meme?
Or are you a self-hating Poo in Loo because I've run into a few of those.

Zod could realistically level a couple of states until the military said fuck it and dropped a dozen nukes on top of them.

But Spider-Man is an actual hero. Superman is "human" so he's not supposed to be held up to the same standards as heroes. He's supposed to be some random guy with superpowers who's quick to anger but it's ok since it was just a mistake.
He might actually be Snyder still pissed that his franchise is now dead.

>The WE could easily re-spin the Martian Core as easily as it adds mass to it.
Show your work

>All mars lacks after this is atmosphere, which the WE generates
No it doesn't

Mars also doesn't have any biomass or bacterial life, so if you want to grow food you're going to have to repopulate an entire planet's microecology

>mfw brainlets try to pretend like their brainbigs in front of me

Nukes don't kill superman

youtube.com/watch?v=PfMiOlIUGQw

You are a legit retard who just parrots memes.

lol the smug hate you guys bring is telling. Man of Steel is a treasure.

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>So if he is capable of doing that shit just because he's angry what will he do then he's "at a higher stage of anger" then?

Nothing, because he grew as a person from that moment. I think you are actually autistic, because I keep repeating this and you can't seem to understand that people "change" and "grow". Just look at how he deals with Lex in BvS, he doesn't destroy any of his stuff or even directly hurt him. In fact he saves Lex's life despite being way more angry at him.

Good job making a retarded point that is disproven in the very material you are discussing, you idiotic Sanjay.

>So realistically, they would have taken her instead of leaving her there like Snyder told them to do?

No, since their first priority is ALWAYS Zod. Everything his cronies do is to protect and serve Zod. Every single time they are given the opportunity try and help/save Zod or do something else, they ALWAYS go to rescue Zod first. This isn't even unique to the movie, it's how they are portrayed in the comics to.

In the movie it is even more justified since they were genetically engineered to serve and protect Zod. Their brains are literally built to do so.

>Forgetting people's lives and getting them killed unnecessarily is just an honest mistake.

Nobody dies from the 7/11 explosion in Smallville. Keep trying, pajeet.
>Even in your example the bomb was either going to explode in the ground or in midair.

No, not if she had moved it to the ocean or high enough up that there was no oxygen to ignite (so low orbit).

>She just lost control

Wow, what a fucking sociopath. Someone with her level of power can't be trusted if they can so easily "lose control." And what about Cap? Bringing someone so inexperienced into a civilian zone. What a fucking idiot. He must just not care about human life at all if he is willing to bring such a threat into a populated zone.

a dead treasure

They clearly show in the film other failed attempts at terraforming barren planets

>no counter agument
>poo in the loo calling other people poos

COPE

>Mars
what about the martians living there though

>First, terraforming is difficult

Yeah I think I'm done here

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thats too much thinking for these people. they just watch reviews and let them do the thinking

A single nuke doesn't kill Superman. Zod & crew were weaker than Superman, they still needed some more sun to get on his level. Zod only learns to fly halfway through their fight. The kryptonians wouldn't withstand the military dropping some of their big guns repeatedly.

>tries to turn the Earth into his shitty home Krypton rather than sit back and be worshiped
Fuck, that's like trying to turn the whole planet into The Bronx and expecting people to be happy.

>he grew as a person from that moment
He destroyed the truck and immediately grew from it because uh... He just does.
>Just look at how he deals with Lex in BvS
Ah yes he doesn't do anything to Lex at all. He even grew so much that when his mother was in danger again from Lex, his first course of action is not to explain to Batman but to let his patented "rage" take over and fight Batman instead. Even if his mother is on a timed limit fighting Batman is still more important than either looking for his mother himself or explaining things to Batman right? Or was that another "mistake"?
>No, since their first priority is ALWAYS Zod. This isn't even unique to the movie, it's how they are portrayed in the comics to.
It's a good thing Superman knows that since he reads the comics. She should totally just leave her with them then since it's safe.
>Nobody dies from the 7/11 explosion in Smallville
So it's totally ok right? Nobody dies in their fight there too?
>Someone with her level of power can't be trusted if they can so easily "lose control."
Sure. Losing control of your powers while trying to save civilians and losing control of your fucking anger are totally the same things.
>He must just not care about human life at all if he is willing to bring such a threat into a populated zone.
Yes Cap really showed he is a psycopath when he flew and tackled Crossbones from the building towards a populated zone.

he has an autistic-look haircut, so I'll say yes, autism is the answer

>have to insert nonsense "transforming" the planet plot when a simple "ruling the world" would be just fine
>have to insert nonsense "military coup" and "genetic thingamajig" plot when the old origin story would be just fine

I'm starting to notice a pattern emerge

>I mean who among us hasn't been infuriated and totally forgot what human lives are worth you know?
People do this all the fucking time, dipshit. Any random fist fight can easily have a fatal end because of one unlucky fall. People unintentionally endanger others all the fucking time even when they aren't pissed off. That's why we have texting while driving laws. Why you think superman would be inexplicably immune to these same shortcomings his first day in action, I've no idea.

>Mars isnt habitable
lmao you actually believe NASA's lies about Mars?

>opening scene is literally about him traveling from metropolis to Africa in minutes and then punching a dude through a wall faster then the bullet can leave his gun

They still have sufficient tech to blanket the entire planet's combined telecomms capability. I think it's reasonable to assume they can swat down some nukes.

I've no idea either. Superman seems like the type to endanger others when he loses his cool. Which seems to happen a lot.

t. didn't understand anything about the Krypton part of the plot

>He even grew so much that when his mother was in danger again from Lex, his first course of action is not to explain to Batman but to let his patented "rage" take over and fight Batman instead.
He did try to explain and he doesn't even legit fight Batman until the latter deploys his Kryptonite weapons and Superman literally has to fight for his life.

>So it's totally ok right? Nobody dies in their fight there too?
Nobody is shown to die so if you say people died it's your own personal assumption.

By superspeed I mean Flash-levels. He can go supersonic, that's not enough to stop an explosion you know.

>a world engine, you say? Just park it up in Mars, we'll be neighbours
>bruh I already told you why that wouldn't work

>ha! classic Zod. You've just got to be sticktoitive.
>*flies away*

>He did try to explain and he doesn't even legit fight Batman until the latter deploys his Kryptonite weapons and Superman literally has to fight for his life.
>You don't understand!
>I understand!
>Attacks Batman while they're face to face talking
Sorry user I think I watched a different movie. In this one his mother is short on time and instead of looking for her himself or explaining things to Batman he chooses to spend his time fighting. There are also multiple moments during the fight where he has the upper hand but instead of explaining it then, he chooses to continue the fight because he's angry, and seriously, Martha is in danger again? Fuck her right? You should check out this movie it's real shitty.
>Nobody is shown to die so if you say people died it's your own personal assumption.
I see. I'm sorry I'm wrong. It's totally ok for Superman to take the fight to a crowded area and endanger civilians since no one was shown to die on camera.

>He destroyed the truck and immediately grew from it because uh... He just does.

Holy shit, you're an actual retard. All of MoS is him growing as a person, from man to Superman. From him deciding to don his family's chrest, to turning himself in to the government to avoid conflict, to finally being forced to kill Zod.

>Yes Cap really showed he is a psycopath when he flew and tackled Crossbones from the building towards a populated zone.

Nah, he showed he was a psycho when be blew up the Shield helicarrier full of innocent people.

Alright, I'm done, if you're not going to be honest you aren't worth replying to.

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>i'm not sure they had the equipment to physically move an entire planet
They had Superman

He literally does all the fucking time. Have you never seen a superman movie before? He operates almost entirely within cities. This isn't DBZ with generic wasteland backdrops.

I'm not being honest? Why don't you watch the clip again and tell me where I'm lying? Was he fighting for his life when he was face to face with Batman and he chooses to attack him?

You're right! And the reason why he fights in cities is because he always takes the fights there himself right? They usually start out in some farm and he tackles the villains to the city?

>All of MoS is him growing as a person
Yeah and he showed his growth with how he dealt with Batman. No discussions just violence. What amazing character growth.
>Nah, he showed he was a psycho when be blew up the Shield helicarrier full of innocent people.
The innocent Hydra people right? What a fucking psycho.

The bomb was encased in lead, it’s explained in the ultimate addition I think.

>No discussions just violence. What amazing character growth.
He stops batman and says "The bat is dead bury it."
>The innocent Hydra people right? What a fucking psycho.
You mean more than half the people that worked with shield that didn't know hydra took over?
It's like you didn't even bother to watch the movies

>He stops batman and says "The bat is dead bury it."
You mean he crashes into his car and threatens him while letting criminals with rocket launchers escape right? Because that's what happened. He also can't even be bothered to explain shit when his mother's life is in danger again because he cares more about fighting ffs.
>You mean more than half the people that worked with shield that didn't know hydra took over?
Half of them were inside the helicarrier that had to do an emergency takeoff to start killing people because everyone already knew they were Hydra when Cap announced it? I think you slept through the movie.

>Holy shit, you're an actual retard. All of MoS is him growing as a person, from man to Superman. From him deciding to don his family's chrest, to turning himself in to the government to avoid conflict, to finally being forced to kill Zod.
To him throwing an US Army drone at a US General because fuck you

to him fighting Batman and disregarding Martha because fuck her

Well, that's called growing as a person, user.

The world engine increases a planets gravity though
that's why it smushes the city

Absolutely true

faggot

>t. Martian

most heterosexual post on Yea Forums right now

And Zod found it on a planet where everyone was dead. The colonies were a failure and the terraformer was not guaranteed to work right. Zod was autistic.

He always had super speed you worthless retard. He used it multiple times. Faora brand new to the atmosphere had superspeed in MoS. You embarrassing dumbass. You think it was a new power he randomly learned after ressurection? Jesus

>he didn't have superspeed in BvS
He literally broke the sound barrier the first time he flew in MoS

My favorite part of these threads is when the streetshitter argues with himself because no one else will take his retarded bait anymore.

Didn’t Zod specifically want to terraform Earth to fuck with Superman or am I remembering it wrong?

we are talking about supermanboy here

OP here, my last post was over 3 hours ago.

Wrong.

why was Supes a hobo at the start of the movie?

>breaks the sound barrier
>kills everyone in the room

Bro I love BvS and MoS but desu clark sliding between the truck and the trailer which then destroys a building (not how buildings work but I guess Snyder watched too much Loose Change) is indefensible. Movies not perfect but it's a magical film experience just like BvS that I think many people choose to nitpick rather than ignore since it takes risks. One of those risks was making Zod v Clark into a DBZ/Matrix Revolutions battle which is entertaining but was always bound to anger people. Especially when using the destruction as a 9/11 stand in.

>Nah, he showed he was a psycho when be blew up the Shield helicarrier full of innocent people.
it was the brize of freedom:DDD