Tell me. Why do you guys hate Captain Marvel so much for not having a narrative arc...

Captain America is supposed to be a simplistic, old-school bland hero, so it makes sense.

Captain Marvel is supposed to be a complex, deep, challenging character in a radical, genre-defying masterpiece.

I think he's a faggot but I don't talk about marvel stuff much because whenever I do you guys tell me to dilate or some shit and call me a liberal.

ok liberal

>masterpiece

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>Captain America didn't have a narrative arc

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Its because shes so forced.
Captain America is just straight up glorious, honorable, and heroic, the epitome of the Classic American Chad.
Captain Marvel is like "huuur durrr wamens can beat up mans teewwww".
Plus Brie Larson has a pretty hard time concealing what a cunt she is on screen, at least Chris Evans can just suck up the lefty bs for long enough to just play his role.
Scarlet Witch and Black Widow are the toughest chicks in the crew, Captain Marvel is a doo doo head.

I just don't like Captain Marvel cause she looks like an unlikable bitch and nobody anything ever said about her movie or whatever gave me a reason to care past that.
I care about Captain America because he's committed to ideals of bravery, sacrifice, heroism, honor, and decency that I find appealing. Is Captain Marvel committed to anything like that? What's her character appeal?
Give me, in any amount of words, a reason why I should give a shit about Captain Marvel, past my initial assessment that she has a bitchy demeanor.

It suddenly occurs to me that I have NEVER ONCE seen a carolfag give an actual reason why I should like her.
They literally only ever act like it's a foregone conclusion that I'm supposed to like her and then demand to know why I don't.
They have no concept that the character should be interesting or appealing in some meaningful way.

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>airforce
>badass

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"We" don't think shit.
Hollywood has figured out that they can mine "alt right outrage" or whatever for marketing points, so they intentionally say stupid shit to bait people then flood Yea Forums/reddit/social media with shill astroturfers who "take the bait".

The shit they say is stupid and worth criticism, but any organic response is drowned out by the shill overreaction which lets them play victim in the media despite it being a cynical faux-progressive advertising tactic in the first place.
A few dumb kids swallow the forced memes, but user isn't a hivemind.

PS both movies were fine as far as trash capeshit goes.

"Fine"

Why do people afraid to admit that the movie was shit always say it was "Fine", like "Fine" should be accepted and not seen as boring.

captain america sucked too, but not as bad. I turned captain marvel off after 20 minutes because I
did not care about the characters
had no reason to think i would soon care about them
it wasn't clear what was happening or if anything had even happened yet
t was really just a really poorly constructed movie. The payoff is probably fine but I don't care about that shit. Captain America at least had hot chris evans pecs and a understandable origin story

How was I not clear enough for you by calling the whole genre "trash capeshit"?

It's pablum.
Neither movie was especially offensive as an example of pablum, but the premise of the thread is singling one or the other out as an exceptional example, which is what I'm disputing.

You dense comprehension-lacking fuckwit.

"fine" for a multi-million dollar production movie coming from a company that essentially runs a percentage of the US, with hundreds of staff members, dozens of actors, and thousands of fans is not a good thing - if you have that many chips on the table and still aren't able to release gold every single time then you've failed and "fine" is just an easy way of summing up a movie that tried too hard and still didn't make it to the finish line

If you sincerely don't understand that comparative terms can be relative then you're way too retarded to be discussing cinema.

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This. I’m female too so OP you can fuck yourself with the “incel” bullshit, I just don’t like shitty characters and pandering to low grade plebs like you.

>when Captain America didn't have a narrative arc himself?
what?

Yep, they’re entitled cunts just like Brie and that other forced “actor” Tessa Thompson.

Post tits slut.

>when Captain America didn't have a narrative arc

Because youtubers brainwashed them into hating it.

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>Just because she's a woman it's bad?
Yes. Heroism itself is an inherently masculine virtue.

First Avengers:
Steve Rogers despite being a flawed person never gives up. He gets beaten up, down, and pushed aside but he never gives up. He's always working on improving himself and this kind of spirit is what drew Dr. Erskine to him.

Captain America wasn't just handed the serum, he earned it by being an unwavering good man who never gave up on himself or on his morals.

This unwavering conviction is constant through the movies, he never does a selfish act until at the very end when he finally decides to do what everyone had been telling him to do and that's get a life and a family.

Contrast that to Captain Marvel

She's a fucking failure her whole life, she sucks as driving, she sucks at flying, she sucks at physical labor. Much like Steve Rogers first did, but there's an absolute difference between the two personas.

Steve never gives up, he doesn't blame anybody, he doesn't concern himself with who to blame for his failures. He continues to work to over come them.

Carol on the other hand pushes a narrative that her gender is holding her back. That really is actually good at all the things she's failing at, it's just Men's fault for not recognizing how good she is. We don't see her overcoming her failures. She doesn't get back in the go cart, she isn't shown completing the obstacle course. She's never shown getting back on the proverbial saddle again.

Sure she did a self sacrificial act in order to get her powers, but it's the one and only time we're shown any kind of unselfish thinking. Lots of other characters made self sacrifices, self sacrifices aren't unique.

Let's look at Wanda and Black Widow. Both of them have gone through hell, both of them have grown, and both of them have shown over and over again how selfless and deterministic they are to guarantee the safety of the world and their loved ones.

Nothing about Carol is unique and it comes off as arrogant.

>I hate Dr Strange for the same reason.
I didn't know it was possible to have taste this bad.

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