Who was the better critic?

>Who was the better critic?

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i like roeper. he was a cool dude and had a cool radio show for a while.

Pauline Kael

who r these guys?

unironically, both have mixed tastes.
Also who the fuck cares about critics? If you’re unsure about seeing a movie, ask people who you know have similar tastes, instead of some “professional” who thinks everything should be ranked on a straight line, rather than divided into kingdoms

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They were both great, honest critics which made their show so great to watch.

Ebert. Siskel didn't really seem to grasp scifi films.

>ask people who you know have similar tastes
like who?

Siskel by a mile.
Ebert hated UHF and The Thing(1982) and his reasoning is ridiculous:
>The parodies in UHF are disconnected from the plot.
>The Thing is just a cynical gorefest.

>better
They complemented each other. A single critical entity that had a duality in and of itself.

Go on a forum or something idk

>he's a cool dude and doesn't afraid of anything.

____ and _____

Gene Siskel.

Ebert did remember Freddie Got Fingered a few years after its release.

Siskel, but Ebert was a better writer

>siskel
>not roeper

Both hated violence and condemned movies that had it.

Oh boy, what a Siskel/Ebert reaction to The Punisher's series would look like...

Didn't these guys really hate the horror genre? I remember reading Siskel spoiled the ending to Friday The 13th hoping it'd become a box office bomb.

Man, hindsight really IS 20/20.

They praised plenty of violent movies. They just didn't like trashy slasher films.

99.99999% of professional critics, whether art, music, or cinema, are embarrassing pretentious hacks. How they got two decent ones in the same room for a stretch of years and years is nothing less than a cosmic miracle.

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>Lucas's films are going DOWWWWWWN!

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Siskel

>that pathetic basedboy review ebert gave to blue velvet
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Anyone who doesn't say Siskel has no sense for cinema. Ebert was one of the most predictable, mainstream pandering critics out there.

In hindsight Friday the 13th is still a terrible movie.

Isabella Rossellini was his waifu and he didn't like seeing her treated that way.

I loved it when they ask the question on how movies get funded and how retarded the conversations must be when movies get green lit.

Ebert for understanding cronenberg's crash

No reason that needed to be greentexted, summerfag.

Ebert also gave dark city a perfect score when it was turbo cliche trash with the only memorable scene being memorable because it was so shit.

nice.

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Ebert's most severe review was reserved for the original I Spit on Your Grave, where he admitted walking out of it after an hour or so.

They complemented one another. Without one, the other is out of balance.

Ebert was nuts over that movie for some reason. It's on his "Great Movies" list, and he even did a commentary track on the DVD.

No. Usually, when they split, Ebert got it right. See for example the Carnosaur review, especially the last 40 seconds where they have a very humorous detailed plot discussion about the flick.

Double nope. Ebert was the better critic, but it was NOT because of his column. Ebert is a poor writer (then why is he the better critic?), but he was always the better speaker with the better taste and prescience.

ebert got too many 10/10 movies wrong so i guess the other guy.

He gave Raising Arizona 1.5 stars which he said was his most asked-about negative review from everyday fans.

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Jeffrey Lyons. Both Siskel and Ebert were hacks that had great PR teams. Both had shit discernment when trying to critique films objectively and would always let personal bias seep in. Siskel was better than Ebert though, as he did this a little less, and wasn't as malicious as fatso.

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That look on Siskel's face when Ebert tries to defend Home Alone 3 is priceless

That was Ebert. He also posted Betsy Palmer's home address and encouraged readers of his to harass her for appearing in the movie.

>Ebert was the better critic
>Ebert is a poor writer
both wrong

Siskel walked out of Black Sheep because he couldn't stand Chris Farley.

There is a joke in Altman's Ready to Wear (Pret-a-Porter) directed a Ebert, about a film critic who hated everything before he got married and praised everything after he got married.

even when he got the rating right he many times misunderstood or missed important things. witch is fine but his fanboys who usually only had ebert as a gateway to more complex movies simply believed/believe everything he wrote

I grew up reading Ebert's annual film digest and it's how I first learned about reading criticism and different ways to think about film. He is very good for young people trying to get past canned crap. That said, his political biases skewed his judgement and the older he got the worse it got. He gave Team American zero stars and was baffled why anyone could possibly like it, to cite one example.

You've already been pre-emptively dealt with, so this was superfluous on your part. Be quiet and actually read Ebert's reviews.

>Jeffrey Lyons
Haven't heard that name in a long time, but seeing it made me laugh.

Friends

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kys

Ebert brought the bants
Siskel could barely string a sentence together
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he's right you know

>Below is the original review from Siskel, feature in the Chicago Tribune from 1980. Give it a read and notice that he even gives out Betsy Palmer's address for people to send complaint letters to! This is something that would never fly in today's journalistic climate, unless it was posted on Twitter or Facebook.

All critics are faggots who wish they could create

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You were told to be quiet. Do so.

You were told.

Starship Troopers IS garbage, though.

siskel, but I still disagree with their review of "My dinner with andre". It was fucking boring.

You sound like a giant queer. Once again, kill yourself

fair's fair - Ebert wrote the screenplay to Russ Meyer's Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, one of the best shitty movies ever made.

>AND THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS

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>You sound like a giant queer. Once again, kill yourself
What did user mean by this?

At the time I didn't watch a ton of him but he seemed like the last of the sort of 90's "intelligentsia" that thought stuff like Beavis and Butthead or South Park getting so much traction was a sign we were getting dumber on the air. That's one thing I've noticed the most in recent years, "smart" people are more or less obligated to like garbage, for better and worse.

I love how he assumes that Rossellini didn't know what the other half of the movie was going to be like.

How can I also get paid to watch movies and write about them?

I like to think this is the moment they became friends

This is missing the best bit where they're talking about mcdonalds

He also trashed South Park movie. He doesn't understand Matt and Trey's parodies
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ebert didn't even give the green berets a star, but would give a pass to shit like transformers, and siskel called gettysburg southerner propaganda

I really can't respect things like that, but I liked their show, it was a comfy.

RLM has replaced them.

>professional critics
I cant name a more useless job

I can

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I'm glad that one of them had lost his jaw before dying

Siskel

sicko

Understandable lol

it was a different time, but I never saw the point of critics reviewing slasher/exploitation films, especially big daily paper "film" critics. those films have their place and then they had their magazines and journals that appreciated them, but sending a guy like Ebert to review an exploitation film was just silly.

I think that was Gene Siskel's undiagnosed brain tumor talking.

ebert naming the jew was unexpected

is siskel drunk???

Siskel for sure, Ebert was extremely sensitive when it came to violence and sex

I think he was sensitive when it came to North

They stink

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Who was the best guest?

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Siskel. Ebert literally went back and changed his scores based on public opinion (see his Clockwork Oranhe review)

the most egregious was his giving a middling review of Groundhog Day upon first viewing to eventually including it in his Great Movies series

again, fair being fair, he admitted his mistake, whatever it might have been. I thinking Groundhog Day caught a lot of people off-guard once they started showing it on cable constantly.

Neither. Film critics are stupid. Form your own opinion

Ebert hated horror. He was always bitching about it.