Honest director

>The only comic locations are arkham and gotham
And Wayne Manor

Yep I apologise, forgot if it was named that or something.

>incredible simplistic marketing so far with the trailer and poster and magazine interviews

I think that’s called lack of creativity and budget

>It's Taxi Driver but with the joker
Sounds kino desu

(((Zilberman)))

>Marketing
>creative
Cringe

>honest director
>hangovers guy

The trailer and poster are very creative, the magazine gave us some cool covers too, it's also playing in 70mm in select theaters. WB is trying to appeal to a different audience with this film it seems.

Not been following the marketing (posts by OP included), dies this really have nothing to do with the comic books? Why even call it the Joker then except for desperation?

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its a character study

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As a comic book reader of more than 13 years, I don't get triggered because there have been many different iterations of the Joker over the years and I'm used to it.

Stop going on twitter, faggot.

Barely go on there, only for news. I went on there just to show user what I meant.

This film will be hated for decades, it will be remembered as the king of kings of wasted potential.
This is a fucking Joker story, the only story in whole damn comic universe that could bring to cinemas even people that hate capeshit. I don’t understand how you can fuck this up so bad.

With proper script, director and 200 mil it could be the capeshit of capeshits, but nooo ‘let’s do something for the incels cuz thats the flavor of the month’

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>The judge smiled. Men are born for games. Nothing else. Every child knows that play is nobler than work. He knows too that the worth or merit of a game is not inherent in the game itself but rather in the value of that which is put at hazard. Games of chance require a wager to have meaning at all. Games of sport involve the skill and strength of the opponents and the humiliation of defeat and the pride of victory are in themselves sufficient stake because they inhere in the worth of the principals and define them. But trial of chance or trial of worth all games aspire to the condition of war for here that which is wagered swallows up game, player, all. Suppose two men at cards with nothing to wager save their lives. Who has not heard such a tale? A turn of the card. The whole universe for such a player has labored clanking to this moment which will tell if he is to die at that man’s hand or that man at his. What more certain validation of a man’s worth could there be? This enhancement of the game to its ultimate state admits no argument concerning the notion of fate. The selection of one man over another is a preference absolute and irrevocable and it is a dull man indeed who could reckon so profound a decision without agency or significance either one. In such games as have for their stake the annihilation of the defeated the decisions are quite clear. This man holding this particular arrangement of cards in his hand is thereby removed from existence. This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one’s will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence. War is god. Brown studied the judge.

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its not fair

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I look at twitter occasionally to study the pulse of normiedom in the US. Resultantly, its also a good suicidal depression generator.

I've heard he actually says
>We live in a society
at some point. Fucking gangweed are gonna be the kings of the internet for a month

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Yeah right, one of the posters depicts him smoking like a badass, boy how fucked up will people feel when they discover that the fucker is quite the opposite.

>let’s do something for the incels
How is for the incels?

K I N O

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That poster isn't official. The only poster that's official is pic related.

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Read the script or watch the trailer or read interviews

This is great though

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>t.Seething that the Joker isn't a gay trans-gay boi for woke diversity points

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I watched the trailer, it seems like an homage to Taxi Driver than whatever you're talking about

Confusing "normies" with the Tunmblr Gestapo.

Normal fags are actually hyped for this movie because its the Joker, and its been 10 years since we've had a non-retarded looking Joker on the big screen.

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This is when he finds out the girl he stalks that's nice to him out of pity has a boyfriend

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Falling down is 26 years old movie, why are they offended by a kinda similar movie now?

When the movie comes out they'll be pissed. Joker is only in it the last 20-30 minutes.

>Joker is only in it the last 20-30 minutes
Sounds like peak kino.

This. That's why there's not a second trailer yet, they don't know how to keep marketing it without giving everything away. All the joker scenes you've seen in some way, the running and hit by a taxi scene, subway scene, late night talk show scene, him walking out of his apartment scene

Based, this will be the ultimate incelcore kino

It’s not a homage to but similar to Taxi Driver. There’s quite a difference, Joker is filled with these little subtleties about longing for love, passion, sex, yeah sure they could be interpretet as that he just wants to be lovedand yadda but when you put it all together you can see the whole shabang

>When the movie comes out they'll be pissed. Joker is only in it the last 20-30 minutes.
No they wont. They'll think its deep and pay to see it twice.

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Sounds like Taxi Driver

I don't know, the script is very odd. It will bore a lot people as it's mostly Arthur caring for his mother or trying to connect with Thomas Wayne cause he believes he's in son for a majority of the film with little bits of gore/shock thrown in until the 3rd act. Even Todd called it his most unstudio movie to date and didn't know how people would receive it.

I guess Warner want a capeshit that can be considered as art.

Test screenings have been very mixed so far.

What's some of the opinions?

>I guess Warner want a capeshit that can be considered as art.
I think they just ate too many DC flops and said "fuck it, do what you want" for this one.

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I've seen credible people say it's mixed but vieweranon is the only one who's given a review, they're known to have completely spoiled the justice league plot and last jedi plot before they came out, they're legit

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Thing is though, that normies honestly dgaf about the bullshit on twitter.
Generally speaking, if they even do know about that lefty shit, it's only mentioned insofar as they want to gain a bit of social credit via virtue signalling.

Sounds like an actually good movie. Is this going to be /ourkino/?

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Then again, it is the best trailer made in years.

It COULD be, but let’s not get our hopes up or jinx it. Going by what I’ve seen of the script, I’m honestly baffled WB allowed it. So best we just hope they don’t chicken out and force any changes or censorship. THEN maybe

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It’s gonna be Joakino, but critics and normies will hate it

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It'll land at a 50-60% like your average Todd Phillips film.

>let's do this for the incels
I have had sex with 15 female human beings and I am excited for this movie. Explain why non incels are also excited for the movie.

Do it, coward.

>After an hour of talking to us, Phoenix tells Empire that he wants to say one more thing about acting. What he’s really looking for, he says, is “humiliation”. That’s what he wants to feel
That’s why he liked the script I think

Todd said in a magazine interview WB gave him and Scott silver full creative control, I doubt they'll cut much if not nothing.

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And that’s a sad thing. Joaquin doesn’t deserve this. Todd basically killed his chances to get the proper recognition for this role

He won't respond because he knows he's a fucking idiot and pulled that shit out of his ass--like most of the "facts" on this degenerate website

What's wrong with the script?

I know, I know, it’s just so weird to me they’re making such a leap of faith. I’m not used to it and who knows what’s going to happen because of it?

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Nothing imo but they might not like that Todd tries to handle sexual abuse in the script as Arthur was raped as a child by his mom's boyfriend to pay rent.

After the test screenings twitter critics said that 98% of the movie is like in the script, they didn’t delete the “whore” scene and all other divisive stuff, they just rewrote some dialogue with Zazie

It’s genuinely, legitimately dark and not at all pc. People aren’t sure how this is possible in a fucking cape movie.

That's fine by me, zazie is a bit of nothing in the script, they probably rewrote her to make her have more character. She's basically the Betsy of the movie

do you maybe have the leak where Joker is watching the news about riots or something and one of the rioters on TV says something about blacks calls them niggers or w/e

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But he wasn’t sexually abused in the script, he was just physically abused, like his moms boyfriend beat him and his mother knew that and didn’t stop him or something

It's going to be Kino. The more hate and controversy it stirs up, the longer it will be remembered for. Keep in mind that there are already memes about the film making their way into the mainstream culture zeitgeist and the movie hasn't been released yet. It will be talked about for years and blue check marks will never recover from it.

This. People who tell you Wayne is trump are liars, he's a rich dude running for mayor of Gotham so his mom has more of a consistent reason to talk to Arthur about him (she's delusional they were a couple)

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Haha, let’s fucking hope so

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this is the start of peak villaincore

No, he was both. He mentions it to De Niro

Are you talking about that?

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Real question Helga poster, have you thought of getting or do you already have a Helga tulpa?

>yikes

yikes

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what mag

Thank you now I have to watch the trailer for the 13th time.

Why does this movie appeals so much to me??

Anyone can give me an answer to this??

What could it be?

>Phillips pitched Warner Bros.' executives on the spot. He suggested they begin a division called DC Black, separating itself from the current crop of DC films. "I said, 'Let Joker, be the first, then let's get fucking great filmmakers to come in." It was also a way to differentiate from Marvel. "Instead of trying to live in the shadow of that beast, let's do something they can't do," he said. Budgets should be around $30 million, he recommended, films without all the CGI hoopla. "I said, 'Let's just strip that all away. It'll be liberating.'"

yes, thanks a lot

i am very excited to see this movie but that doesn't matter because as a young white male i'm not valid

The new empire. It should be out in US by August but it's out in UK right now. I'll dump the whole thing for you

Tulpa?

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is empire good again ? i only buy them at airports and last time it seemed like totalfilm had more actual writing in it

Can't fucking wait for her soundtrack bros

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I would not know as I have only read this one. The first page I posted of the mag is the first page so I'll continue from there.

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thats very kind

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denigrating white males is a self fulfilling prophecy that creates the marginalisation that it seeks to disregard

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thank you based print pirate

Fuck, I forgot that, sorry. But I still don’t understand how the fuck Arthur didn’t know about that before reading his mother’s medical card. If he was abused when he was 4-5 years old, he should remember that.

kino confirmed and incoming

People often just repress those things user, that or they normalise them for the rest of their lives and never address it if they’re not forced to by someone else.

it's going to be kino and nu-Yea Forums who consumes nothing but capeshit, nigger netflix garbage and soi wars is going to hate it

Last one.

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make scans you nigger

auteur film makers is what went wrong with dc movies though

the masses dont like their flick to be the vision of a single author. it's an anti fascist thing

absolute shagger

why are all liberals so mentally ill and unhinged? I guess it's a prerequisite to believe the ideology they spout

> Movie about a guy who has a near death experience and becomes a criminal known as The Joker
> Cast a guy named "Jokin Phoenix" as the character

Bravo.

>anybody who likes something I dont is an incel!!!11!!1!111!!!!one11!!

back to your containment board Yea Forumscksucker

>Phoenix is less keen to discuss Arthur. Any such distillation of the character frustrates him. “I don’t wanna talk about things… in the most broad clichés, it sounds awful,” he says. “Fuck.” But then: “Part of it is about the emergence of this other thing that has been inside of you your whole life. That you have tried to suppress. It’s about trying to fit in, whether it’s material, or behaviour… and then the deliberation when you no longer look to others for validation.”
Based

>and 200 mil
There's nothing about the Joker that would require such an outrageous budget. You're fucking faggot that values spectacle over substance

>but nooo ‘let’s do something for the incels cuz thats the flavor of the month’
are you for real? incels are literally only ever talked about in a negative light and THE most hated demographic by the media now.

And Joker is a villain and his inceldom is not going to be portrayed positively either

>I told you. We’re family
So his mother still thinks that Thomas Wayne cares about her because she worked at his house ten years ago?
Also seems like this “family” themes are important, Randall also said that thing to Arthur that they are family and should care of each other before he killed him

She thinks Thomas and her fucked and were secret lovers and Thomas doesn't talk to her anymore so his wife doesn't go after them because she's "jealous"

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I can't fucking wait for this film, first time i'm going to the theatre since BR 2049

comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/joker-alleged-script-leak-warning-possible-spoiler-2022343/

This all seems like kino to me. Maybe with a lesser actor I would be a bit worried but I trust Joaquin

The Virgin Joker
Vs
The Chad Mad Stan.

Yeah this is all legit

Kino

>he drops the dustpan and broom
Was he...cleaning? Also it’s sounds kino and I can’t wait to see how Joaquin will play that

Why are you guys making me respect the director of the hangover movies?

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Can you post his scene with Bruce please? Or just any other cool scene from the script? I’m hungry

>the hangover
>not honest

It actually follows one of the Joker's origin stories, well sorta.

This. Movie seems KINO and I know Phoenix can pull it off, though I don't know about the direction. Really surprised by this take on capeshit.

>Why are you guys making me respect the director of the hangover movies?
Those movies weren't even that bad. The guys who made Endgame made You, Me and Dupree and look what happened there .

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they should've gone for this one desu

youtube.com/watch?v=8L6KGuTr9TI

I don't know if the general public could handle it but we might get some kino flicks out of this philosophy

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>Keeps staring at Joker, at the scars around his mouth
WHAAAAT? WTF?

I actually respect Todd Phillips now. I really hope he doesn't fuck this up and DC does more of these, maybe get some Lex Luthor kino

Arthur cut up his face when he was a little kid, so now he has some tiny but really faded scars on his face like real life glasgow smiles

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I don't know if the final film removes it but Joker has faded scars on his mouth in the script. He hated the nickname he got for his laughing condition as a kid which was happy so he cut a smile on his face.

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kino

But there is no visible scars around his mouth in the trailer or in the promotional photos

So we gonna have another iconic choking scene like in The Master? I’m exited

Like I said could be cut or they are very very minimal in the film and are zoomed into.

The final film removed it. Just go 6 seconds into the trailer and you can see Joker's face close up and there's no scars so you can stop you're fucking mobbing

We’re not the same person, and no way did they remove the scars - they’re integral to a lot of the story and the script

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This. It all comes together in the climax when he cuts up new scars. Also I believe that would of been a big change and all the people are saying that the script is dead on and nothing major has changed so I think the scars are still in.

Shut the fuck up Helga. Just look at the fucking trailer. See shit like this is why people prefer Olga, she isn't a negative bitch

Joaquin Phoenix is based as fuck id watch it just to stare at him

I mean, I fucking abhore people like her, but she's somewhat right. It's literally "DUDE INCELS LMAO XD" the movie. Hell, Jared's joker was just your typical edgelord, this will be cringe inducing ramped to the max.

Fuck you Olga isn’t a bitch. She’s the biggest bitch on the face of this fucking planet.

Thor had his eye in the iw trailer, I don’t doubt they could hide them in this one.

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stop posting

He cute

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>Fuck you Olga isn’t a bitch. She’s the biggest bitch on the face of this fucking planet.
try that again sweetie

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I’m not gonna lie, I think Joaquin is one of the best people to portray abused, humiliated and mentally unstable characters, he has the ability to turn that miserable shit into kino like in The You were never really here or The Master

>Paul Thomas Anderson and Alejandro González Iñárritu will make kino movies about capeshit in our lifetime

BRAVO DC

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btfo

Everything you said is beyond based but nah, Reeves Batman is coming.

There is no 'based' capeshit. Any superhero movie made this decade is söy. If you watch it, you are a söymale or a tranny.

It’s a way people talk, they say it that way to show disdain for something someone said without quoting them. Like a leftwing might say “fuck you Obama was bad for the economy” after you say “Obama was bad for the economy”

True. Who would've known the great finale to kino capeshit would be the separate films of both dark Knight characters?

You all acting like MCU didnt just announce Dr Strange horror kino, Bladekino and Eternals kino with Jolie, Richard Madden and Salma Hayek

cringe

Unless joaquin plays nightmare I don't care

some fucked up shit happens to the joker before he falls into the acme vat tho

Because none of them have seen any movie created before 2005.

But if he'll really agree to play him, would it be based or cringe? I doubt that Nightmare will be more complex and interesting role than Joker

Based in trailers but you'd be dissapointed he'd barely be in the film and then joaquin would talk shit on it slightly in an interview of his next film

But...imagine that KINO.. Also Scott Derrickson really likes Joaquin, he even posted Joker teaser on his insta so maybe he will write something good for him and will not make him another mediocre mcu villain

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>Dr Strange horror kino
It's adorable that you think an MCU movie will actually do Horror. At absolute best you get one or two "scary" scenes and the rest will be the usual formula.

this movie will be cringe

Maybe you’re just a faggot who watches shitty movies and have problems understanding what substance really is

Well it is nice that WB allowed to take different route this time but I have a problem with the plot - feels like cliche and was hoping for a more original take on the good ol joker.

Is this peak /sleaze/core?

i wonder how many years people will constantly overuse the word incel for. any bets on its replacement?

Hey that’s my number too

>MCU
>being anything but villain of the week schlock

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What about Thanos tho

>This will be the last based capeshit you'll ever see in cinemas, after this it's all downhill.
based opinion user

it only became a mainstream thing after being a formed meme on Yea Forums. Like cuck, based, etc.

that was good storytelling, when he all of a sudden pretended to care about his kid. Cuz that’s what the scene called for.

It's literally just nu males and triggered feminists online who say it when they cant think of a comeback. Ive never heard that word uttered in real life. Its basically the "no, you!" Of 2019

Now I want a Victor Fries movie
And Lex Luthor

I have never seen or heard anyone use the word "based" outside Yea Forums. Except for Lil B who came up with that term. I'd predict "incel" is going to die soon, the word has lost most of it's original meaning it's now a general insult.

Lottery!