Reminder that Stanley Kubrick is a talentless hack who ripped off people who did it first and better

The bullying-suicide sequence in Full Metal Jacket is in neither Dispatches nor Rumor of War. But it does look almost exactly like a sequence of basic training bullying which leads to midnight suicide in the bathroom in the Japanese movie The Human Condition.

Invasion of Astro Monster
>Enjoyable all the way through
>Knew what it was
>Charming as fuck
>Got fun giant monster fights

2001: A Space Odyssey
>Giant bore
>Director is a pseud who'd browse reddit if it were a thing when he was alive
>No charm or personality, all of the characters are monotone robots
>Got a shitty LSD trip at the end for druggie subhumans to look at

People only like 2001 because their favorite youtube video essay faggot told them it was good.

There's working off of previously established ideas and then there is straight up stealing, Kubrick was doing the latter

Explain to me the difference.
Protip: you can't.

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true patricians enjoy both movies, art isn't objective you know?

based Kubro, turning trash into god tier art

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Yeah "invasion of the Astro-Monster" patented the shot of an astronaut in a hallway. After that no other movies could have shots of astronauts in hallways walking toward the camera. That's how art works.

>art isn't objective
It literally is you NPC faggot

2001 is absolute trash, though. Road To The Stars and Astro Monster are both objectively better films

no it isn't, hell I'd go ahead and say nothing is objective but your porn addicted brain wouldn't understand

Working off of previously established ideas means adding to those ideas and improving on them, stealing is just taking shit, do nothing with it and call it your own

Notice how he didn't reply to your post or give any example in the post you responded to.

ARTIST BAD BECAUSE HE RIPPED OFF is like the plebbit level argument.

stop being contrarian, nobody thinks you are cool

Are you retarded?

>UNPOPULAR OPINION BAD
>POPULAR OPINION ALWAYS RIGHT
Go to reddit if you want an echochamber, NPC

>"2001 is pesud trash that copied all of its ideas from (some kaiju flick)"
>"but also the kaiju flick is completely different and vastly superior"

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>imblying this isn't a contrarian echochamber
have sneed

If a movie is out of focus, you can't see the characters, the audio is from a 2mb MP3 and the plot doesn't make any sense, the movie is objectively bad

This but unironically

>I think modern art's almost total pre-occupation with subjectivism has led to anarchy and sterility in the arts. The notion that reality exists only in the artist's mind, and that the thing which simpler souls had for so long believed to be reality is only an illusion, was initially an invigorating force, but it eventually led to a lot of highly original, very personal and extremely uninteresting work. In Cocteau's film Orpheé, the poet asks what he should do. 'Astonish me,' he is told. Very little of modern art does that -- certainly not in the sense that a great work of art can make you wonder how its creation was accomplished by a mere mortal. Be that as it may, films, unfortunately, don't have this problem at all. From the start, they have played it as safe as possible, and no one can blame the generally dull state of the movies on too much originality and subjectivism.

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BASED SATAN

It did copy Astro Monster, and yes, Astro Monster is a better film. It's really not hard to see

>the plot doesn't make any sense
2deep4u pleb

I'm not you, so no, I'm not retarded.

Dear god this guy is such a fucking hack

I wasn't talking about any film you retard, just giving an example of what an objectively awful film is
>N-No u
mark of the retard

I saw astro monster literally yesterday for the first time and it was awful even for kaiju standards

We don't need to know you're a pleb.

>le pleb le pleb xDDD
Okay then explain, in no less than 30 sentences why the movie is so good and then in other 30 sentences why it's better than Space Odyssey.
>inb4 you don't do it

Astro Monster was terrible, but that's beside the point. The point is that Kubick, if he did copy this film (he did not), was not simply stealing but synthesized its ideas into his own unique work.

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It's actually entertaining and not a slog with a retarded LSD sequence.
>B-But
No the overly long sequences are not good, they're lazy and liking them is a sign of low IQ

Kubrick liked kaiju movies? Fucking based

>Astro Monster was terrible
Shit taste

>I NEED THINGS TO HAPPEN OTHERWISE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT IS LOST
Oh zoomie zooms, you should stop drinking bottled water.

>not even addressing my main point
Why don't you accept the fact that you're a brainlet

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>PACING? WHAT'S THAT NO MOVIES NEED TO BE 3 HOURS OF RETARDS DOING NOTHING THATS KINO

OP is a weebtard but it's pretty clear Kubrick was influenced by Eastern European sci-fi like Road to the Stars and Ikarie XB-1

Your display of shit taste proves that you should never be taken seriously, sorry

y-you too

>Hating weebs on an anime discussion forum

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Anyways guys im taking a shit please don't reply to my posts and overwhelm me just wait until I say I've come back ok thanks

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>Space Odyssey is 3 hours of retards doing nothing

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Hating weebs is a badge of honor

Hey Satan, just wait until you find out all of his films are based on books

>still refusing to even acknowledge my point
Looks like I BTFO'd him

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>anime discussion forum
That's what
and
are for.

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books? I only watch anime

youtube.com/watch?v=IL4vWJbwmqM

He's right. This is the same reason you're the only person who finds your dreams interesting. You can say art is only subjective but at the end of the day it still has to captivate it's audience. Otherwise who cares

Go back, normalfags

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Just because they were both copying scientific journals of the time like the articles written by Gerard O'Neill does not mean they were copying each other.

wow mods le baste now???????

>He still plays TF2 in 2019
Brainlet spotted

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Godzilla is kino

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This but unironically

imagine being this full of yourself

wut movie on the left. Looks russian for some reason.

It is russian, you have a good eye
youtube.com/watch?v=9CX0oSjwLqI

>gives honest opinion about the state of art without being self-indulgent in the slightest
>"wahhh he's full of himself because he disagrees with me"
Go away

>Monster Zero is bad
Imagine being these fun-hating fags

No, not really. I mistaken space suit for diving suit from Secret of Two Oceans. Don't know why tho.

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based

>Thinking pseud trash is better than Kaijukino
Cringe

SHIT ON THE LEFT
ART ON THE RIGHT

LOOK AT THAT CHEAPO FOLDING CARD TABLE IN FRAME 3 LMAOOO

Functionally illiterate

>High production value good
>People on a lower budget making movies bad

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Artistically and mentally illiterate

Summarize what Kubrick said in that paragraph, if you're capable

>I'm a huge faggot that sucks cocks please rape my face

LOOK AT HIS DESIGN MOTIF AND SHOT COMPOSITION, ITS ANOTHER LEVEL ENTIRELY

EVERYTHING IS SQUARED OUT SEXY AS HELL

THERES A REASON HIS MOVIE IS AN ABSOLUTE ICON AND THE OTHER IS A LITERAL WHO

That implies that a terrible movie can't be a great work of art, just showing that you don't understand the concept of it at all, even implying there is something to understand.
Try reaching other meta levels, you are not capable of thinking that far.

Certain genres are perfect for low-budget filmmaking. Sci-fi space epic is not one of them.

>Kubrick was a Godzillafag

Based

>LOOK AT HIS DESIGN MOTIF AND SHOT COMPOSITION, ITS ANOTHER LEVEL ENTIRELY
Looks bland and dull
>EVERYTHING IS SQUARED OUT SEXY AS HELL
haha no
>THERES A REASON HIS MOVIE IS AN ABSOLUTE ICON AND THE OTHER IS A LITERAL WHO
Because normalfags are retarded and can only watch popular flicks

left: micropenis weeaboo garbage
right: absolute kinography

based

OP status: ass raped

another thread full of anally violated weeaboos

HAHA YES

THE PRODUCTION DESIGN ON THE FIRST MOVIE IS DERIVATIVE OF ITS CURVY BUBBLE SHIT ERA

KUBRICK LITERALLY CHANGED THE CULTURAL DESIGN LANGUAGE WITH HIS MOVIE

HE IS LITERALLY THAT VISIONARY

>JAPANESE THING BAD
>AMERICAN THING GOOD

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Not the guy but that is not true. Great artist are able to make something different. Sure everyone has influences but ripping off and stealing is something completely different.

>IM RETARDED
Great that you tell us, I'll be ignoring your posts from now on

NICE CONCESSION, NO ARGUMENTS

YOU HAVE LOST AN INTERNET ARGUMENT BY SAYING WRONG THINGS
THINK ON IT :^)

I lived in yokohama for 8 years and grew up with local garbage like kamen rider, yugioh and ultraman so I'm completely unphased and unimpressed by anime girls and don't have a japan-obsession like you and your fat incel friends

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Same guy from your last reply. After reading this entire thread I see my mistake and that original work doesn't mean a better work. Influences and taking stuff from other is what allows arts to continue and improve. You were right all along.

>You were right all along

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But I don't have a japan obsession, I only really watch Kaijukinos

>>JAPANESE THING BAD
>>AMERICAN THING GOOD
>i-i-i-i-i don't h-h-have a japan obs-s-s-s-session I swear!!!!

Yes, bluntly calling everything japanese "weeb" is an NPC thing no matter how hard you deny it.