I don't care if his film-making techniques were cutting edge, his movies are unironically soulless

>movies have to be _____

always stupid to say that, kubricks style is always cold and sterile its his style, his shots feel striking and eerie that's just how he does it, other directors do it differently, there's no correct way to do it

Clockwork Orange is garbage, Ebert was right.

High-schooler intellectual-tier movie

Clockwork is soulless and cold. Edgy film for high schoolers. Barry is a masterpiece.

based

>always stupid to say that, kubricks style is always cold and sterile its his style, his shots feel striking and eerie that's just how he does it

Like said, it works for some of his movies. But often his cold sterile style is a bad fit for the film he's making.

What makes it edgy garabge?

He was killed for eyes wide shut

>Soulless
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I disagree I think all of his movies fit that style

You're a psychopath if you experienced no feelings when watching Paths of Glory

>What makes it edgy garabge?

Clockwork Orange is deliberately not a fun movie to watch, so all that's left is the message and themes the film is trying to send. Which is incredibly fucking obvious shit such as the link between violence and sex.

I'm sure Clockwork Orange was extremely cool when it was released, but it's just dated edgy garbage now. Which I guess PROVES Kubrick was right all along and we're all degenerates now! Bravo, bravo. You got me Stan.

Barry Lyndon is his only good film precisely because it has a heart and is the least Kubrick-like. He gives himself over to the source material - Thackeray was a true humanist behind the layers of irony and satire - and European artistic tradition. It is more painterly than cinematic, to its great credit.

I liked it

Kubrick autism starts with Killer’s Kiss, is reined in during the remainder of his work in Old Hollywood, and kicks in again big time with 2001 and especially in the aftermath when Warner gave him total artistic freedom. Films like The Killing, Paths of Glory, and Strangelove are a joyous interlude when Kubrick was forced to be a human being. Barry was the only time he chose to do it on his own recognisance - I hate to see what his self-conceived Napoleon flick would have been like.

>Clockwork Orange is deliberately not a fun movie to watch
Imagine not liking entertaining films. ACO is hilarious and very enjoyable to watch.

we're watching cockwork orange after life of brian, come join droogs

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I was pretty moved by Barry Lyndon, starting with hating the shit out of the MC

yeah, no, we heard you the first time. your take is still awful.

The Shining being a good movie is the most dishonest opinion in all of film.

>oooooh it's so atmospheric
>ooooh it's so surreal
>oooooh it's so eerie

Fuck off. You know what watching the Shining reminds me of? The fucking high-frame rate Hobbit movies. Where it looks like you're just watching a bunch of actors on set. That's all I see when I watch the Shining, a bunch of actors on set that really don't want to be there.

Trash film and Kubrick should never have attempted horror.

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It fetishizes violence and degeneracy in a way that completely misses the point of the book. It's an ugly stupid film from a stupid ugly mind

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I think the biggest problem is Jack's performance. He seems crazy before he gets to the hotel. I'm also not a fan of Duvall's performance.

If you didn't feel anything when Dave unplugged HAL, then you never had a soul.

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>He seems crazy before he gets to the hotel
It almost like he is

also if you don't identify the dry black comedy in this scene you're a brainlet

Either film attempts to be ambiguous about that and fails or people are dense and create pointless theories.

>t.Kubrick

Hard for me to say Kubrick movies are soulless. His temperament is not that of someone cheering and rooting for humanity to succeed. But he still found humans fascinating, so he watched them, like a cat watching its prey. His movies are comedies. He is laughing AT his characters, not with them.

the zoom is strong

kek'd

Yea its kinda what the coen brothers extended into though more obvious, the folly of man, clashing egos.

This guy gets it. You'd think more people would understand if they just compared Strangelove to his other films. Clockwork Orange is one of the best satirical comedies ever made, it's just that you sound like an edgelord when saying that so few people admit it.

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>t needs to be felt. I feel nothing

>it's just that you sound like an edgelord when saying that so few people admit it.
I don't see how anyone can't watch Mr. Deltoid or Patrick Magee as the writer and not think it's a comedy. Best two performances in the film

The best aspect of Kubrick's works is the tireless autism he put into making them. Most shots in his films could be framed and put on a wall. His use of staging, visual metaphor, and his unsentimental approach to working with actors and plot, make his films have a timeless quality.

Nolan is the barren version of Kubrick, lazier, messier, and self-insert protagonists.

>All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
>All work
>A11 work
>APOLLO 11 work

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You'd be surprised. Pauline Kael's review made me lose all respect for her.

Muffley Pepe is good.

>Paths of Glory
>Barry Lyndon
>Dr strangelove
>Lolita
>Soulless
>Cold
So half this thread only watched 2001 and jumped to the conclussion that they already know Kubrick's style.

Kubrick’s films other than Barry Lyndon and certain sections of 2001 don’t hold a candle to the heights of aesthetic perfection reached in the Hollywood studio system with pictures lensed by the likes of Russel Metty, John Alton, Karl Freund, Nicholas Musuraca, Jo von Sternberg, Jack Cardiff etc. and pictures helmed by Ford or Borzage. Worshipping the ground this man walks on is downright embarrassing and something that can only be forgiven a total novice cineaste.

Kubrick’s compositions are autistic but not in a good way ie meticulous, just flat and lifeless and boring. Far too geometric and predictable.

>all work
>literally didn't work for a single minute throughout the whole movie

thing i like: soul
thing i don't like: soulless
i am based

>we
dont speak for others,retard.

So in your view there are no bad movies?

Have sex.

Sublime riposte.

I said there are no rules to how movies have to be made of course there are bad and good movies

What causes a movie to be bad? Isn’t that good criteria for how a movie ought not to be made ie a rule?

Tarkovsky never made a good film, good luck taking your film theory from him

Imagine being Tarkovsky, making horrendous films that are swiftly been forgotten

No if we're talking about style, they've made good movies with video cameras, non actors, etc.

I guess what causes a movie to be bad is how you feel after watching it, if its unenjoyable, you can amount that to not liking movies about war and then make an arbitrary rule to yourself that there has never been or never will be a good war movie and then one day see one you like and then what happens to your rule book?

>His branch of art isn’t warm and all forgiving :( me no likeee

Based and truthpilled. Ford was a genius.
These are the Kubrick fanatics. I bet you think Tark's films are boring.

CLOCKWORK STARTING NOW GET IN

While I completely agree on Kubrick, I don't think Tarkovsky's were much better in this regard, while not as cold, I feel like they are not nearly as human as they could and should be, mostly due to his overt academicism...
(that can be said about many others, really, especially Bergman)

Yep, took the words right out of my mouth

>I bet you think
I dont care for either lmao

Overt academicism in Tarkovsky's work? Where?

Kubrick told compelling stories in an original way. Stories are metaphors of life, not of humanity. So you can go fuck yourself, OP. You may not like his style, but don't go throwing shitty memes at legit fucking storytellers like you're some kind of intelectual

Kubrick is for pseuds

>I don't think Tarkovsky's were much better in this regard, while not as cold, I feel like they are not nearly as human as they could and should be, mostly due to his overt academicism

Don't agree at all. Tarkovsky was one of the few people I would give the title of emotional genius.

He disliked symbolism because to him making sense and being able to explain why something is powerful felt shallow. He was completely in touch with his feelings, and he knew how to turn them into something other people could connect with, in a way nobody could properly understand.

He's a copying hack

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This. Tarkovsky is based. That being said i like Kubrick too.

Any other sociopath directors like Kubrick? His films genuinely feel like they were directed by an alien with no real attachment to humanity.

Any marvel movie director besides Raimi

>His temperament is not that of someone cheering and rooting for humanity to succeed.
That's part of the reason I like Kubrick.

>Tarkovsky was right about film, it needs to be felt.
Is boredom a feeling

barry lyndon is a nihilistic and cynical tale, a subversion of the historical epic. its the perfect example of sacrificing soul to communicate a message. the fact that tv likes it can be explained by 2 things:
1) they get enamored by the beauty of the scenes, and i agree they look beautiful but its all there to send a message. that is why a little shit scoundrel character is placed in that kind of setting, treated with such care and grace as the great figures of history
2) and that brings us to the most unsettling possibility, that tv actually feel like barry is a good guy or they feel sympathetic towards him, or unironically agree with the narrator. now this was not kubrick's intention at all, and it reveals that tv's self insert is not a good guy, or a hero and not even a great villain but a petty bully and little nobody who wastes his life away

Watch Peter Greenaway.

I mean what you are saying is right but your conclusion is wrong. The scene where his son dies is very powerful. I also don't think he is straight up piece of shit. He had some good qualities in him. He is quite complicated but definitely not only a piece of shit as shown by him not shooting Bullington and loving his son so much.

>Is boredom a feeling

It's the space between feelings, it can be used to build up a jarring contrast.

Paths of Glory is one of the most humanistic films ever made.