The election was pretty fresh when Mr Robot's third season was being produced, and the series creator was always a vocal Trump hater. Making fun of the president probably sounded pretty clever at the time, but it may have been a bit too early for that. Instead of following the Russian conspiracy, Mr Robot paints Trump as a Chinese asset. China hacked the election, Trump is nothing more than a puppet running for China's interests.
Well time has passed, it's been almost three years. Now the US is deep in a trade war with China, and saying it's hurting the country is an understatement. China's economy growth reached its lowest rate in almost 30 years. Exports and imports both plummeted. Stock market is performing worse than it did in the last decade. The country is now facing a huge debt crisis. And it all started after Trump got elected.
How will Mr Robot deal with all of this? Unless they start doing timeskips, season 4 could be chronologically over before Trump reaches his second year (he isn't even president yet in the series, right?). Will they simply ignore this plot point they introduced? Will they depict a parallel timeline where Trump is indeed a Chinese agent? Will they double down on it, saying China's current problems were always planned by the CCP? What do you think Yea Forums
Of course they've been lying about their GDP for decades, the current debt crisis was years in the making and trump is far from being responsible for their shaky economy
But the trade war really hit them in the worse possible moment, American industries leaving is making it worse and the last two years have been a nightmare for China's stock market The CCP can't hide the country's economic issues anymore, and it mostly happened after Trump got elected
Brace yourself. Because you’re about to become an expert and win arguments.
The purpose of tariffs is not to make products more expensive for consumers, it is to change the economics of companies offshoring and to resolve unfair practices overseas and tariffs. The supply chains of the auto industry go all over the globe in search of cheap labor, lax environmental laws, and all the other dastardly ways to improve profits. Almost all of the US component industry has migrated to Mexico and China. As the cost of the passing on the new tariffs will not find an eager US. consumer, auto and component makers will have to shift some production back to the US as a lower-cost option. The model of this in action, and working in the US. favor, is Honda (detailed later on), In terms of assembled vehicles, the largest targets are the EU (particularly Germany), Japan, South Korea, Mexico, and Canada. Component parts cross thru many borders in various stages of completion, and would/could incur tariffs at each stop. What if, (work me with here as I flesh out my conspiracy theory) automakers and the component industry restructure their supply chains and manufacturing to bring production back to the US? Let’s do some reverse engineering of countries and their cars. Korea’s Hyundai imports just under 50% of the vehicles it sells in the US. It already has plans to increase production in the US, and tariffs will likely be an encouragement to enlarge and speed up those plans.
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Matthew Howard
WHOA
Alexander White
Kia Motors, an affiliate of Hyundai, manufactures its Optima and its Sorento in West Point, GA, and imports the rest. Like Hyundai, it also has plans to increase production in the US. Tariffs would boost those plans. India’s Jaguar Land Rover (owned by Tata Motors) and Volvo cars (owned by Geely) would get hit hard by tariffs, along with other automakers that have no manufacturing plants in the area. In expectation of Trump tariffs, Volvo just opened a plant in South Carolina to manufacture the new S60, and will start SUV manufacturing there in 2021. Now let’s go big (or go home) Euroupe. The EU imposes a 10% tariff on all cars, SUVs, compact SUVs, vans, and pickups imported from the US. The US imposes a 2.5% tariff on imported passenger cars, SUVs, compact SUVs, and vans from the EU and a 25% tariff on imported pickups (this tariff has worked as intended as foreign car companies with pickups make them in the US. Volkswagen, BMW, and Daimler have manufacturing plants in the US. and export part of their production to other countries. They will need to bring their production into the US. BMW assembles its moneymaker, the SUVs (X3 and X5) in South Carolina. Japan controls what comes into the country via administrative hurdles. US automakers have found that the costs of getting low-margin small cars over these hurdles are so onerous that the economics doesn’t work out, which is precisely the purpose of those hurdles. Toyota imports 22%of the vehicles it sells in the US. It’s Lexus line is +/- half its profits in the US, but only a bit more than 1 in 8 sales. Nissan imports 31%of the vehicles it sells in the US. Honda is the prom king and queen, It would be among the least impacted automakers. Honda is our role model. They did things right, and 'fair'. Let’s discuss. Honda has 12 plants in the US that make Hondas and Acuras plus engines, transmissions, and other components.
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Jaxon Foster
>country is now facing a huge debt crisis.
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Benjamin Collins
Honda has 4 cars ranked in the top 10 in terms of US domestic content. Hondas ‘The Odyssey’ is built in Lincoln, Alabama and has 75% domestic content. China and cars puzzle…China imposes a 25% tariff on all imported vehicles but has recently offered to cut this to 15% as a goodwill gesture in the trade war. Their peace offering ain’t peaceful enough. To get around the Chinese tariffs and sell vehicles to the 1.3 billion Chinese consumers, automakers invested billions in China, set up manufacturing facilities in joint ventures with the China Communist Party (or its proxies) and complied with demands for technology transfers (itself a large and enduring tax) China-made components are in every vehicle sold in the US, yet only two models that are assembled in China are sold in the US. Those components are a target for tariffs. GM makes and sells MORE vehicles in China than it does in the US. Now let’s discuss the elephant in the bathroom: Mexico and Canada. The NAFTA countries are fused within supply chains. GM announced in early June, 2018, that it would build its new Blazer in Mexico, where it already employs 15,000 workers. In terms of auto exports from the US, the challenges are different with each trade partner. While as tariffs on vehicles imported from Germany, Japan, and South Korea would mostly be a benefit for U.S. automakers, tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada would be a bigly problem for U.S. automakers. GM imports 30% of the vehicles in sells in the US. Most of those imports are made in Mexico and Canada, including a significant portion of its high-margin trucks and SUVs. (GM pays its 15,000 workers in Mexico less than $3 per hour on average) Ford imports 20%of the vehicles it sells in the US, most of them from Mexico and Canada.
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John Gonzalez
This is important to understand because both companies would need to absorb the costs of shifting some production from Mexico and Canada back to the US. This type of restructuring takes time and is expensive and in the US, their profit margins would be less. Now that you know all this you’re smart enough to put on a bow tie and go on CNN and CNBC and be the pundit.
>they're finally going to accept that "the left" spent the last 40 years psychologically and emotionally abusing millions of at risk vulnerable children based solely on their race gender and sexuality in an attempt to fix racism sexism and homophobia but instead screwed up an entire generation then refused to help them because they have the wrong skin color gender and sexuality
i predict they'll have a shitty season because tards write the show
Chase Mitchell
I thought this show ended?
Adam Ward
>China's economy growth reached its lowest rate in almost 30 years. Exports and imports both plummeted. Stock market is performing worse than it did in the last decade. The country is now facing a huge debt crisis.
Their growth rate is still 6.2% and the trade war had little to do with it since exports are now only 1% of China's GDP.
>How will Mr Robot deal with all of this? they will plot twist the chinese tranny mega hacker genius to secretly be working for DA RUSSIANS da whole time, and add a 'good' team of chinese hackers that recruit Darlene to try to de-program Elliot from working for the Russian-backed Chinese and for the 'good' chinese, to bring communism to america! (aka the show is gonna get really really really bad) expect an alex jone character.
Dylan Myers
>How will Mr Robot deal with all of this? This show is still going? I thought it ended.
Jackson Carter
I like how you niggers keep implying China is the only bad guy in all this and the Russians are somehow the good guys we need to ally up with. As if they're not both working together to ensure our downfall.
Really wish we could bring back McCarthy and hang all you 5th column traitors.
>I like how you niggers keep implying China is the only bad guy in all this and the Russians are somehow the good guys we need to ally up with. As if they're not both working together to ensure our downfall.
many american corporations have a higher/equal gdp than russia all by themselves. russia is not a big boogey man, its a little boogeyman. after the soviet union fell, the hold over KGB took over the remnants for their own gain(putin) and are now vampire capitalists like most american "leaders", really no worse than most billionaire american CEOs. russia is corrupt and run like a mafia but its not really a relevant threat to american stability like china. american and china's economies are heavily intertwined AND in a semi-economic-cold-war-state. the usa and russia's economies are barley connected. if russia collapsed(again) it would just be a bad day for american share holders whereas if china collapsed, america would collapse along with it. boogeymanning da evil russians, especially as mega tier evil hackers who rekt our elections is a fucking joke when we have corporations like google, apple, and facebook that are literally interfering with every government and society on earth, en masse, 24/7, and arguably have more influence than most nations except the usa and china.
that does not mean "russia is a good guy", it just means they are not the giant boogeyman threat the MSM and silicon valley make it out to be. for all the fear mongering we get about russia, we get 1/100th what we should about china which is very telling.
Ian Butler
>we get 1/100th what we should about china This is bullshit and you know it. Everything is about China, Russia gets barely a mention anymore. MSM is literally preping the population for war, first with Iran then China.
Benjamin Reyes
>MSM is literally preping the population for war, first with Iran then China You'd have to go for China first
Liam Evans
>This is bullshit and you know it. Everything is about China, Russia gets barely a mention anymore. MSM is literally preping the population for war, first with Iran then China.
bullshit. i check MSM all the time and the way the have covered our "trade war" is always the same "omg evil drumpf putting tarrifs on chinese good is bad for the american consumer because X, Y, and Z". all they do is shill for giving china all our money.
Henry Green
A liberal show crying about trump, wow. Who would have guessed.
William Perry
Iran is the easier move right now because Israel and Saudi Arabia are already on board. With China it will take more ground work.
>not looking beyond the trade war news Yeah that's a yikes.
>Now the US is deep in a trade war with China, and saying it's hurting the country is an understatement. Why is this even a surprise? Trump stated clearly that he would start a trade war with China in his election manifesto. If you want to know what someone is going to do, read or listen to what they communicate.
Owen Price
>If you want to know what someone is going to do, read or listen to what they communicate. reading or listening to trump is basically racist bro.
I don't care too much, whether he's a racist or not. He has no ethics, he's an autocratic businessman. What he's doing now is a huge gamble. It could pay off, making America more self reliant, but it could also backfire, and there's no-one rich enough to bail him out then.
Joshua Campbell
A time skip is inevitable because they wrote themselves into a corner with season three's finale.
Tyrell will be running E-Corps but Angela and her bio father will be trying to undermine him because Tyrell is 100% in league with Whiterose and Angela's dad already has a huge grudge against Whiterose forcing him to replace himself in charge of E-Corp with Tyrell, even before finding out that Whiterose mindfucked Angela.
I don't see them going full-tilt with the Russian Narrative given how much they've built up China as the real big bad. They will probably give lip service to the idea that Russia hacked Hillary's emails but be nebulous towards the notion of Trump as a Russian asset.
Perhaps even go as far as to have Whiterose claim to have started the "Trump is a Russian patsy" farce, as a means to control Trump. Whiterose immediately realize Trump was too unpredictable to fully control. Orchestrating Russiagate to serve as a weapon to keep Trump in line so he does as ordered or else be impeached and removed from office and replaced with Pence.
Maybe even toss in a line that Trump WAS a money laundering front, which is where she got the idea of painting Trump as a stooge of Putins; since Trump couldn't defend himself without admitting to the former, which in turn would in turn cause people to believe the later if he admitted it.
Asher Green
Not a gamble, it's straight up sabotage. He's dismantling the institutions that ensured American dominance for decades after WW2. The American era is already coming to a close.
Jaxson Parker
or maybe just not?
Nicholas Garcia
They're going to use the Trump-Epstein connection since Trump was actually in Epstein's social circle. Not only that, but Epstein is a math genius and math geniuses were partially to blame for the economic collapse back in 2008.
>The country is now facing a huge debt crisis. >And it all started after Trump got elected. >NOW Not since FRB or droping gold standard, just now, Trump did all this.
Luis Ortiz
The fact that you can't look beyond trade war news, brainlet. America wants war with China before they're too big to contain.
It would be better to just focus on making a quality show first, then work backwords and claim that some random scene was a potshot at drumpf like Chernobyl did. Their GDP is about on par with Texas and they make their money selling natural gas to Europe and competing with us in manufacturing weapons, so we'll never be frens but it's hard to view them on the same level as China. They'll rattle their sabers toward the baltics to shore up nationalist support and try to fuck with our system by stoking any fringe group with anti-democratic sentiment (blm, white power groups, whatever) but the era of the evil empire with a masterclass spy network infiltrating the highest levels of western government is over, I think. China on the other hand...
Carson Adams
what? if trump is a chinese asset why would he start a trade war with china?
Ayden Parker
>Russians are somehow the good guys we need to ally up with. But they are. How are they bad in any way?
Also Russia is no longer communists so the McCarthy reference is irrelevant.
>Trump was actually in Epstein's social circle False
Kevin Harris
Remember when this board was ultra pure shit back 2017 with heavy capeshit and reddit and Yea Forums influx? Only back the we used to had threads about this garbage show, and majority of the posters are pozzed
you literally can't predict what Trump does because he does things randomly since he's schizo/dementia
Noah Wright
Doesn't matter, they were friends. Trump is only distancing himself from Epstein now since Epstein is in prison awaiting his trial for being a pedophile. Don't forget, there is video of Donald Trump talking inappropriately of young girls, this was shot in what looks to be a mall. He has also barged into rooms of girls that were still dressing, it was for one of his beauty pageants that he was funding or sponsoring.
Ethan Torres
china's been bankrupt for a solid decade or more, drumpf's just exploiting what everyone knows.
Isaac Taylor
sneed
Adrian Carter
>rise of trump >Freely and fairly elected leader
Will leftest ever rejoin our timeline?
Colton Williams
DRUMPF IS LITERALLY HITLER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anthony Martin
>Korea’s Hyundai imports just under 50% of the vehicles it sells in the US
do you mean export? I'm confused.
Brody Ross
uh...how? not saying you're wrong, cuz I'm not one of those >your opinion differs from my opinion so you are wrong kind of faggots but I completely disagree. season 2 was a fucking drag but season 3 was phenomenal, despite not living up to the level of season 1. what was wrong with S03?
David Gomez
Democracy is only a fair and useful system when I get the results I want.
Grayson Bell
Everyone Is like omg Trump Is great!!! or omg Trump Is evil!!! And here i am knowing than 53% of the women reach orgasm when they are raped
Landon Stewart
The show is mostly for people with a higher knowledge of information systems and hacking, I'm not surprised the bulk of what's beign discussed has flown right over your head.
Cameron Reed
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Chase Adams
The chapter with Fake one take and the Next one where we think Elliot saved the day when actually both him and mr robot where played like a damn fiddle are one of the most Kino moments in TV history
Matthew Edwards
agreed. also that True Detective style uncut shot from the E-Corp rampage was so fucking kino
