Gen Xers used to consider 1998-2004 the downfall of pop culture and the cancerous teen pop / nu metal / trl era. People kept saying "1993-1997 was the true 90s" or "That 98-99 pokemon britney nsync stuff wasn't true 90s, felt more like proto-2000s".
But nowadays, you have millennials/revisionists saying 1998-2004 was the golden age of pop culture or "the 90sest era ever", and consider anything before 1998 to be outdated/overrated/not interesting for them. A complete reversal in opinions.
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yeah that's complete bullshit, 93-97 was core 90s and anybody that says 98-04 was core 90s is a fucking zoomer faggot that was a glimmer in the eye of their whore mother during that time
>anybody that says 98-04 was core 90s is a fucking zoomer faggot
I mostly see it from people in their late 20s. Though i don't think late 20s is zoomer.
rose tinted glasses of their fondest memories because those faggots were what, 5-11 years old? the fuck would they know about core 90s? or is this dumb shit where they think their favorite kiddie shows represent an era in totality?
None of us likes that era you dildo
This. I'm 30 and 93-97 is definitely the 90s encapsulated. 90-92 felt like an awkward extension of the late 80s and 98-99 is proto 00s.
to have enjoyed the nineties you should had been born in the 80's.
I remember people kept saying this a million times back around 2012, when this "90s kid" debate was so huge on the internet. It was wacky how much people debated it and got mad over it.
because it was a bunch of attention seeking little shits who had no idea what the fuck they were talking about
I graduated in 99. 98-99 was pure cancer with all the shit music. The Phantom Menace was one of the biggest disappointments
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I’m a true gen Xer. Graduated high school in 95. 93-97 was def the core 90s. Things got weird after that. Rap became more rnb, grunge was dead, metal was dead.. Wtf happened to Metallica? Then boy bands come to be. Weird shit. Movies were better around 99-2000 tho. Have to mention that since this is Yea Forums.
jesus christ, people were still wearing stone washed jeans with tee shirts tucked in and leather belts in 93 for christ's sake
Early 1990s was Gen X. I don't see anyone calling Nirvana a band for millennials.
Nirvana was at its peak in '93. Don't try this shit.
strapping young lad were the true metal saviors, but then, devin Townsend quitted drugs and as everything else, it went to the zoomer shitfest 2k nu poop.
2000's were the best years. So much potential. 2010's everything went to shit, especially after lil baby tray tray got shot by a evil white supremacist mexican jew.
>Wtf happened to Metallica?
They sold out (Thrash metal to Hard rock)
2000s sucked, zoomer
This :(
Memories
I'm getting sick of you zoomer bitches who think everything before 2000 is outdated/overrated and everything after 2010 is shit.
2000-2010 WAS NOT THE HEIGHT OF CULTURE
IT DIDN'T HAVE GOOD MUSIC AND EMO IS NOT "COOL", IT WAS A FAKE SHITTY VERSION OF GOTH
THE INTERNET WAS BURIED IN SHIT BY WEB 2.0 BEFORE THE DECADE WAS EVEN OVER
early 00s was pretty much that Michelle Branch song that was played all the time
These niggas is right
>2000's were the best
only good thing round that time was wrestling, of course it became a homo fest shortly after.
Lol funny. I’ve been hearing it on the radio again recently on a station that plays random songs.
>zoomer
I'm 30, fagtron. Try again. 2000's were the best years for the internet and best years for television. Animal collective released their best albums as well.
Not to mention the best video games as well. That part isn't even up for debate
90-91 was peak. it saw the end of hair bands, and the rise of white people liking rap. (they all sucked, but mc hammer, young mc, and yes, vanilla ice brought rap to the white masses.) Run DMC, Beasties, etc popularity had been nothing compared to them.
Love it or hate it, 90-91 saw the age of Preps vs. Hoods be over. The Time of the Wigger had come..
1990-2005 was the best for video games
>2000's were the best years for the internet and best years for television. Animal collective
Dumb person.
Yes, yes you are.
For a long time, the general consensus was that early to mid 1997 was the last gasp of 90s old school. That year you still had mid 90s shit like Soundgarden, Beavis and Butthead and golden era Simpsons, alongside some proto-2000s stuff that began to emerge the previous year like The Spice Girls, Hanson, Scream, Sabrina the Teenage Witch etc. But 90s borns who are now the majority of the internet can't accept they grew up in the beginning of 2000s culture, not the end of 90s culture. To cope they say that true 90s culture ended on Sep 11 2001, even though people still considered 98-01 to be 2000s culture in the aftermath of 9/11.
Here
Go on. Name the show that are the peak of television.
>When I was 12-15 pop culture was the best.
That's basically it.
I'm afraid you're not being unironic, therefore you must be a retard
House MD
The Sopranos
The Wire
Breaking Bad
Would you like me to continue
House Md was fucking great holy shit.
>afraid you're not being unironic
Yikes
>The Wire
>Breaking Bad
you were like 5 years old in the 1990s fuck off
This thread is gay
you were semen in the 1990s
into the oven, Seth
>When I was 12-15 pop culture was the best.
>That's basically it.
This. Except as someone born in 1981, I’m actually right about it since Western civilization peaked in the mid-‘90s.
>Yikes
yikes
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No he was way too young for the Navy
Metallica sold out way before 1998. Black album was considered the beginning of the end.
The real tragedy is that everyone is correct to an extent. The standards and quality of popular culture really has been declining through all these demographic generations. They simply only have their adolescences as reference points.
We need to expel the jews from entertainment and start over fresh.
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>SUM 41
>POP PUNK
>EARLY 2000S
>CUZ I'M IN TOO DEEP
This
The biggest moment of change late 90's, ~97 or so, I recall was Puff Daddy. Looking back it was a "before this, after this" event. Rap transformed into mainstream pop music and ushered in the fullykiked commercialization of 2000s garbage a couple years early. 90's Rock was coming to an end as well, the many bands that lived on seemed, different, afterwards
Yeah, as I wrote in the other thread, 96-97 was B.I.G and Tupac at their heights and their deaths got massive mainstream coverage: rap has forever since been ahead of rock music. Grunge was falling apart, dying off literally in many cases, and the next American 'rock' trend was nu-metal and Linkin Park, which had obvious rap/hip-hop elements.
And yeah, the majority of your truly formulative years, ~12-20, need to be in the 90's to be considered a "90's kid"
Being in diapers, remembering watching cartoons, and then first jerking off in 99 doesn't make one a 90's kid
>Rock was coming to an end as well, the many bands that lived on seemed, different, afterwards
The years immediately following Cobain's death (1995-1997) were like the "female singer/songwriter" era of rock, which itself can be seen as a watered down version of alternative music from the early 90s. But by 1998, Korn's "Follow the Leader" and Kid Rock's "Devil Without a Cause" killed all of that, signalling the end of music you'd come across on Beavis and Butthead. Stuff like Korn was still around the previous year, but it had been competing with the watered down alternative music, which is why I'd consider 1997 to be a hybrid year for music culture
I DID IT ALL FOR THE NOOKIE
One huge factor (not the only one of course) that led to looking back at the early 2000s commercial pop crap as good is that rap/hip hop has not almost fully infested music and media. It makes even pop-punk shit look positively original and intelligent. So, looking back from the current state of affairs, early 2000s was kind of the last time non-rap was the height of mainstream youth culture.
Gen X oldfag reporting in. Graduated in 1994
This
Agree, but I’d say 90s extension ended in 91
Agreed 100%. 1999 was an amazing time for movies
Says the zoomer. Some. But others were all over baggy jeans, flannels, beanies, chain wallets, docs, etc. Don’t try to generalize all of fashion based on a few examples.
Lol. Cringey memories
This was also the rise of nickelback, creed, third eye blind, and all those piss poor rock imitators. Sad sad times for rock. But to be fair, if you were into electronic music (I was), these were peak years. Also great moment for trip hop, industrial metal like Marilyn Manson, Korn, etc. Things definitely changed in 97
>extension ended in 91
Yeah, I agree. That's more accurate.
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yeh, 91 was the final death of hair metal and the rise of grunge
They were so lame. I thought that Korn, 311, Rage and others really offered a cool take on mashing up rap and metal, but somehow these fags blew up and became the poster boys for the movement. Sad.
Oh, No Doubt. Now remember the big push of Female singer/songwriters but, compared to the pop garbage that followed, they were amazing.
Guess the best and simplest way to put it is that it all felt so much more genuine, the artists were real as were their lyrics. Not completely of course (((because))) but compared to what came after....
They're all shit
Limp Bizkit revisionists need to be rounded up and gassed. Fred Durst was terrible then and is still terrible now.
>Korn, 311, Rage
They did but by the end of the 90's they too changed.
Not 311 (that I recall) but Korn and Rage did, least how I perceive their early work compared to when they got big towards late 90s. Being played on the radio all the time can skew that tho, perhaps, but their music videos became faggotry. But I guess you could pretty much say that about nearly every music video made
Honestly tho the late nineties/early 00s had to be have been pretty awful for adults at the time, music was dumbed down severely from the mid-90s into mass produced schlock for kids, then Bush won the election and 9/11 happened and everything just got shittier.
the 90s weren't even the 90s until about 93 honestly
late 90s/early 00s was much more watered down but still fun.
Smells like teen spirit came out in 91. Check your head in 92. By then, it was 90s. By 93 it was full tilt
Is all you jagaloons know is pop culture? Read a fucking book you APES
What makes you think we don’t read, you narrow minded mong?
I remember the real 90s
Nookie was a great song though.
Teen spirit wasn't a huge hit until 92 though
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don't fucking post this. it hurts bros
Why do the 90s get so much credit. I'm 28 and wish I could have entered adulthood in the 80's. 80's is the coolest shit ever you still had modern conveniences, kick ass music, hot 80's babes, economic prosperity, technology hadn't developed enough to pervert and destroy society and steal peoples souls.
Seriously imagine spending your 20's in the 1980's holy shit that would have been fucking awesome.
Most would agree that the "pure 90s" began in 1993 when Beavis and Butthead started airing, and that the fake 90s began in late 1997 when B&B ended and South Park debuted
>Seriously imagine spending your 20's in the 1980's holy shit that would have been fucking awesome.
Thats literally boomers and they all turned out to be insufferable faggets.
Born 1990 here. If you give a shit at all, you need to have sex.
>durr i was le born le epin le 3 years older/younger den u durr me best durr
Yeah, people generally idealize the years they were young and things were new and magical. Everyone says the newer generation sucks. Then the newer generation says the same thing when they reach the appropriate age. And so on and so on.
Get over yourselves and put your penis in a vagina.
>THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN SHUT UP SHUT UP LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
Dumbass
>le based 80s aesthetic
Electropop loving numale detected. Real men prefer the 90s
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the very tail end of boomers. it was mostly gen x that was reaching adulthood in the 80s.
Honest to god xers were born in the 70s and came of age in the 90s. Those 60s borns are their own thing
Bigbeat and Breakbeats.
That was really neat.
Then Tom Morello.
neat.
Agree with this. If you were 20 already in the early 80s you were a late boomer. If you were a young teen in the early 80s and became an adult in the late 80s you are early X. It's a fine line but you can tell a big difference because the actual boomers are insufferable cunts while the Xers were the first of the genuinely Soft Men. Both bad but different ways.
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I simply don't agree with the generations being split up into such big chunks. I mean, you're telling me that someone born in 1946 is the same generation as someone born in 1964? Or that someone born in 1981 is the same generation as 1996? Get the fuck out of here.
Seven to eight years is the absolute threshold. I have two relatives born in 1968 and 1978 and I can see clearly that one is an 80s person and the other is a 90s person.
Within the groups there are differences but the groupings do share some bigger commonalities. The last of the boomers had a life that was still rooted in a life where a high school grad could get a good job, buy a house, and had kids early. The Xers were the first to encounter the world where no college degree meant struggling, renting forever, and starting to embrace a lot of the sissy shit that was the first hint of clown world.
this, ffs the fucking faggotry of the 80's coalesces with the globohomo of today. The early to late 90's music and culture attempted to buck back against the kikes
Sure, the beginning of wide acceptance aka normalization via mass propagand of globohomo with Will and Grace, Queer Eye, Metrosexual, et al faggotry was mid-late 90's but all of that was there, under the surface of the 80's faggots. Proof is that no self respecting man, young or old, would ever dress like an 80s fag
hipster faggot detected....lol
How would you know what the early 90s were like, you would have been like 3
I'm almost 30 and I don't really remember anything before 95 or 96.
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> The Xers were the first to encounter the world where no college degree meant struggling, renting forever, and starting to embrace a lot of the sissy shit that was the first hint of clown world.
This is true.
I second this
T2 is where the nineties started for me. So 1991
A few years make a HUGE difference.
E.g. You're mid to late 20's when the rise of the internet began (late 90's and AOL with personal cpus affordable in the home) and compare that to being mid-late teens. A very big difference.
One had zero internet in their formulative years and the other was smack dab in the middle of their most formulative years.
That's what matters. What was happening during your most formulative years, ~12-20 or so. Getting your first home cpu at 28 in 96 or jerking off to porn for the first time in 99 is a huge difference compared to those who're early-mid teens in the early-mid 90s
And this is why we have the hipster faggotry that we've had since the mid 2008. None of these fags actually knew the 80's was the worst decade in a long time & would be ashamed of themselves for embracing the terrible music, fashion & sheer greed of that era.
>Within the groups there are differences but the groupings do share some bigger commonalities
This is bullshit. People born in the 60s for example hated "boomers" for taking their jobs in the 80s. People born in the 70s didn't give a fuck about boomers, some even had them as parents.
>But nowadays, you have millennials/revisionists saying 1998-2004 was the golden age of pop culture or "the 90sest era ever"
These fags do it to everything. Even Nick shows.They think that because they were born in the mid 90s they know what it's like to be a true 90s kid.
>underrated post.
*cough*hipster faggots*cough*
While you're not wrong given even Socretes bemoaned the next generation but you're absolutely fucking wrong about Gen-X/90's kids (which you absolutely aren't).
The 90's are literally the last decade of White Western Civilization before Globohomo fully took over and became the monstrosity it is today. Sure, early '00's didn't feel like today but was the calm before the faggot storm
I smashed so many radios with a claw hammer on construction sites because of these songs...
>waaaaaah waaaaaaah only the time frame *I* like is good everything else is for
lmaoing @ you pathetic sadbrained retards
Oh we give a fuck about the locust boomers who have ravaged everything and anything to have multiple homes & be winnebago warriors with money coming out their asses whilst gen xers & millenials cant afford one fucking house or move up in their jobs because the fucking boomers are working to 75. Now the boomers expect the zoomers to look after them in retirement homes but the xers & millenials will educate them & they can fucking suffer for their endless greed.
And what's up with your very young childhood being the era that defines "your" decade. Your teens (and maybe early 20s) were the age range where you were old enough to understand the pop culture you were consuming and most of it was aimed towards you. People act like the time they were 5 is a desicive year. If you were 5 in 1999, fuck you. You never lived in the 90s.
Also, now that I'm in my mid 20s, I'm too busy trying to live to have time for pop culture. I just dip in and out rather than immerse myself. It's sad but that's life.
My years were late 2000s and early 2010s. Not the most notable but I'm happy with it. A breif period of optimism and healing from the early 2000s that was quickly squished.
kek, seriously. 80's culture was full faggotry (music-wise at least) and yep, I can see your point of hipsters with the 80's. Fucking 40, 50yos wearing leather jackets, skinny pants, with their big hair wearing makeup with eyeliner and male painted nails. Like everything else, kikes commercialized culture making it shit. Punk? Emo? Whatever, they commercialize it until it's a joke (except to the NPCs who blindly conform with all the other "non-conformists")
>pls argue drump, my tranny flowchart has no nodes for actual discussion and it makes my hormone addled brain go haywire :(
HoleeeFUCK, T2 came out in 91? Had to check thinking ~95 to call bs.
Where does the time go, bro?
Like, b-back in the day? The good ol' days? Why can't it be all so simple?
The Clinton era was the peak, no wars, great economy, video games, movies and music peaked. Plus WWF/WCW baby!
>there will never be another WWF Attitude Era
why even live
There were wars but he knew not to keep on pounding, withdrew early and left without leaving the area too inflamed.
Ah then when the biggest news was someone had sucked the presidents cock.
Can't believe how kino Monday night nitro and WWF was. I don't even follow wrestling anymore, everyone's just a bland looking panty man with tatts.
If you were born in the early-mid 80s you were more like an "early 90s kid, mid/late 90s teen", whereas people born in the 70s are 90s people full stop
All of which led to the sissy beginnings of Clown World. It's like all the people who wanted to fight for something had nothing substantial to fight against so they started inventing oppression. They so desperately needed to fight the good fight and so they gave their efforts to fighting nonsensical phantom evils. They found the gays and 3rd wave feminists and race baiters and foolishly fought for them, leading us to today.
>Watching Smashing Pumpkins clips
>All those 90's outfits and haircuts
BASED
Hm I wonder why younger people consider the era they grew up in to be the best time. Its called nostalgia you retards. Some millennial or zoomer doesn't care if you think they "missed out" because they'll always treasure THEIR childhood years. I swear ever since like 2010 you gatekeeping 90sfags have infected the internet with your cancerous bullshit and I'm sick of it. All you ever do is shit on anything that isn't 90s and you call yourselves boomers when you can't even remember the Berlin Wall. I grew up in the 80s but you don't hear us 80sfags talking shit about your stupid Ren and Stimpy shit.
Every age has its own specialness and its own retardation.
This generation will regard the Marvel Thanos era as their Star Wars. And its fine.
>the sissy beginnings of Clown World. It's like all the people who wanted to fight for something had nothing substantial to fight against so they started inventing oppression. They so desperately needed to fight the good fight and so they gave their efforts to fighting nonsensical phantom evils. They found the gays and 3rd wave feminists and "race baiters" and foolishly pissed and whined about them, leading us to today.
ftfy breh. unintentional irony is best irony
> I swear ever since like 2010 you gatekeeping 90sfags have infected the internet with your cancerous bullshit and I'm sick of it.
You act as though millennials and zoomers are the ones who invented the internet and its culture
You had mullets and acid-washed jeans though, user. Someone in that position has nothing to prove.
the mid 90s were so damn rough on me musically/culturally that i still think of those years from time to time. 1995 = i only had sonic youth's washing machine album going for myself and idk it was a melancholic and from an aging band not exactly revifying like i needed. 1996= i had nothing, there was a few things out that i ended up hearing about a year or 2 laters like stereolab, belle n sebastian, dj shadow . beck's Odelay ended up sucking i wanted to like it more but had no use for it.
1997= the year electronic music broke. with daft punk and chemical bros: things were starting to pick back up for me... but i guess the main factor was being able to hear college radio shows.
it's tricky to talk about pop culture in an objective way.. i guess to do so one must stick to what sold the most in a given year...but does it mean it caught and represented the "spirit of the times" ?
Weren't the 90s called "The End of History" i.e. people thought that wars were petering out and humanity will only be making progress from now on?
How pervasive was that belief? Did normal people talk about it with anticipation? I was a baby/toddler so I have no fucking idea bit it sounds so damn comfy. I wish I was a teen back then.
End of the cold war to 9/11 was the peak of western civilization.
>I wish I was a teen back then.
I don't believe that. What you people really want is to complain, which is what you'd sure as hell have done during the 1990s.
(In fairness you're a hell of a ways from being the only one.)
This. The young adults of the 90s were a special brand of useful idiot. They were in their formative years at the height of 60s hippie nostalgia so they had it in their heads they had to protest and fight "the man." So they arrive ready to fight at a time when there was no war to protest, no segregation to abolish, no anything. Those who wanted to normalise degeneracy and pit the races against each other again and break down the nuclear family and traditional values lured them into fighting for that. I've never seen a case of young people so desperately looking for monsters to fight as in the 90s. Honk Honk.
gore was inheriting from that whole buildup and i bought that pax americana pill back then, laughed out loud during his debate with bush when bush was talking about investing in coal and beefing up the military, sounded like such instant-loser proposition. from that i learned that i don't know nothing about burger politics so i was not 100% blindsighted by trumps election.
Anything from the state of Florida is trash
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can't *make* you poor dumb slobs up
Oh come on. Just murder some tourists and you'll fit in fine.
it seems they resisted HARD looking into socialism , i wonder why, maybe they felt the need to fight for one of those micro issues where they get to personally shine, be heard, feel they matter? big fish in a small pond type of thing? i guess mainstreamers still had faith in ... "changing the system from the inside"
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>PNAC's first public act was to release a "Statement of Principles" on June 3, 1997. The statement had 25 signers, including project members and outside supporters (see Signatories to Statement of Principles). It described the United States as the "world's pre-eminent power," and said that the nation faced a challenge to "shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests." In order to achieve this goal, the statement's signers called for significant increases in defense spending, and for the promotion of "political and economic freedom abroad." It said the United States should strengthen ties with its democratic allies, "challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values," and preserve and extend "an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles." Calling for a "Reaganite" policy of "military strength and moral clarity," it concluded that PNAC's principles were necessary "if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next."[5]
They thought they could control the world, but they crushed themselves with debt trying to do so. Now China is the developing pre-eminent power. They fucked up. Russia got away from them too because of how harshly the West treated them during the 1990s.
The wheels have come off the project. They fucked up Iraq and now it's Iranian clay. They fucked up Syria and now it's Russian/Iranian clay. They fucked up Ukraine and Russia still has it's warm water port. The Philippines has no interest in being a pawn in America's duel with China.
This is how Empires die. The system is getting increasingly unstable.
It"s generally the millenials that think it's cool & hip that were either too young or didn"t live through the 80's, then you mention the greed & the dog eat dog attitude of the 80's...then their sheer embarrassment comes shining through & everyone laughs even harder at the hipster turds. The gen x hipsters are more acidic as they have this don't give a fuck attitude having lived through it once already, but don't care as it's all about the"fash-ionzzz". But as you said, "the NPCs who blindly conform with all the other ""supposed"" non conformists" are easily spotted.
>where they get to personally shine, be heard, feel they matter
How would they have accomplished that in the 1990s? The general blight of "social media" didn't exist then.
they were organizing irl. protests. meetings. stuff like that, you know: activism.
I guess. That's not same sort of "personally shining" we're obliged to put up with now though.
Yeah, culturally 1998-9 was very close to the 2000s.
Jungle and hardcore started to give way to trance and garage, raves declined massively and cheesy pop music took over again.
No, but things like MTV were spotlighting them pretty hard. They could also feel it within their local areas. I remember idiots protesting Desert Storm like it was the fucking Vietnam War even though it was just kicking in the junk of someone who invaded another country. (Yes, oil was a motive, but it wasn't the fucking Vietnam War.) It was like they had their signs sitting in their closets waiting for something to write on them.
"personal branding", popularity, carreerism, virtue signalling were things back then too you know
No one says that you eternal faggot.
90s American music was trash. It's amazing how everything from rock to rap to hiphop to metal to fucking country was a downgrade from what came before. (I'll give you electronic music - although you couldn't fucking dance to it.)
Otherwise the 90s were great. And the pre-retard internet was an era that no one will ever get to experience again.
Bigly. I’m 38 and for me 1992-1997 was THE 90s. No arguments
Liberalism at it's heart is still about markets operating. You'll notice even in the furthest left portions of the Democratic Party, they don't actually ever want to abolish capitalism. The furthest they would go is to try to ape Nordic-style mixed economies.
This is why multiculturalism is liberal. More meat for the meat-grinder of capital.
why do we have to get old
I think it’s more that the era from 98-9/11 had its own identity that is often lumped in with the 90s and 9/11 onwards. The Y2K era is very distinct and I hardly saw any remnants of it after 9/11. It had a very unique aesthetic to it. I remember feeling a major shift in society after 9/11 so to lump it in with that doesn’t feel right. I was born in 94 so I only really experienced core 90s culture by extension through my cousin who was a few years older than me. It’s true that 97/98 definitely was a shift. But I think it was a shift into a shortlived era.
who else /1995/ here? :^)
That's retarded. 90-early 96 had anything good in it with only a couple exceptions afterwards like Mystery Men, TPM, and a couple other movies.
People say 9/11 changed everything, but even as late as 2005 I remember watching American Beauty on TV and thinking it was a modern film. I also considered stars from then like Jennifer Love Hewitt and Sarah Michelle Geller to be "current". Strictly speaking in terms of pop culture rather than politics, the disconnect from the 98-99 days really started once stuff like Youtube and Facebook came out, not when 9/11 happened
Pop music was the same, in the UK at least big bands in the early 2000s were groups like Busted who were exactly the same as late 90s pop bands. It was only after 2005-7 that bands like that started to fade
>I graduated in 99. 98-99 was pure cancer with all the shit music.
>Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
>Air - Moon Safari
>Massive Attack - Mezzanine
>Rage Against the Machine - Battle of LA
>PJ Harvey - Is this Desire
>Beck - Mutations
>The Roots - Things Fall Apart
>Blur - 13
>Boards of Canada - Music has the right to children
>Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
>RZA - Bobby Digital in Stereo
>Fugazi - End Hits
>Tortoise - TNT
>Bright Eyes - Lettin off the Happiness
>Autechre - LP5
>Mogwai - Come on Die Young
>Pulp - This is Hardcore
>Cat Power - Moon Pix
>Eels - Electro Shock Blues
>Gang Starr - Moment of Truth
>Refused - Shape of Punk to Come
>Jeff Buckley - Sketches for My Sweetheart the Drunk
>UNKLE - Psyence Fiction
>Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty
>Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way
>Sleater Kinney - The Hot Rock
>Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
You are insane
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Both are wrong.
Music was awful from emo up to synthwave with one or two stand out musicians here or there.
Nu-metal and teen pop were acceptable. It was the golden age of Rap and RnB which meant some good songs but a whole lot of shit if you're not into that genre.
Music 93-7 was great though. Jungle, hardcore, trance, house still going strong, that era had everything
Cher's Believe and auto-tune in general got big in 1998. Try to defend that
Getting into the later 90s I remember very clearly a sense of dread as regular music started vanishing and being replaced by rap and hip hop. Like I could sort fo feel it being pushed hard. Took years for it to work, mind you, but it was easy to sense it. I remember thinking to myself, at one point, the only way to not hear that shit on MTV was to watch 120 Minutes. I can't be the only one who sensed it like that.
>instantly forgettable indieshit and weak/disappointing albums from formerly good bands
cmon bruh
kill yourself.
The only good thing about 90s music is alt-rock which got headstarted by Pixies.
00-04 was like the 90s epilogue, shit has been more or less the same since 06 but with better technology. Some people even still wear the dumbass gangster fashion shit like having pants around your ankles. I don't know, it's hard to see generational divides until you're on the outside looking in.
And if you ask a boomer when pop culture went to shit they’ll tell you the late 80s early 90s. It’s not some huge revelation that everybody thinks things were better “in their day”. In 20 years you’ll be having people say 2019 was the golden age for music, whilst most of us will say it was almost 100% homogenised garbage.
i moved to a big city in 97 and the variety of electronic music styles were all new to me, discovering them on the radio and hearing some of it in some clubs while walking around at nite.... only to see them disapear from the nightlife almost at the same time, forced to retreat into a couple of specialized clubs. by 99 i feel most of the nightlife was bling bling luxury signalling hip hop.
I hate all those songs (aside from Incubus), but this still hurts my heart to hear in a weird way.
I'm not disagreeing.
I'm referring mainly to the early to mid 00's. Or to whenever emo became what we consider Emo now, as opposed to when smashing pumpkins was considered an Emo band.
It's right around when the middle class white teens started covering their eyes with their hair and cutting themselves in the belonging clique that just about everything started to sound like shit.
You're not. I remember a clear switch from MTV to MTV2 as normal music just started sounding awful. And then gradually even rock stations like kerrang just became awful.
Thank god for the internet and kazaa/limewire and youtube, because there's a period in the 00's when I just stopped watching television all together.
Honestly anyone who bitches about modern music doesn't know how good they fucking have it. They didn't have to deal with the late 00's when almost every indie rock band began with K (kaiser chiefs, kings of leon, Killers, Kasabian, the kooks) and sounded exactly the same. It was either that shit, RnB/rap or if you wait a few years you can listen to dubstep.
I think I honestly reached the point where pop like Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry somehow started sounding like a breath of fresh air.
Also while i'm here, fuck britpop. There's like 2 good songs and that's it.
My dad was born in '61, and I think hes in that weird group between Boomers and Xers.
This. It was starting to be sold as "Hey, white kid, be cooler than everyone else by listening to this tribal unoriginal mind numbing garbage, and if you want to be extra cool, embrace its trash culture." (Bonus points if you are a young girl and start getting with certain shades of fellers)
I remember knowing where it was heading and hating it so much.
youtube.com
Who remembers this one hit wonder from 99?
All my friend and his wife do with their time when it's just them (they have a kid) is watch Attitude Era WWE.
Nostalgia is truly a strange phenomena.
Seems like it was very fast on MTV going from Yo MTV Raps being the only time you heard shitty rap to 120 Minutes being the only time you DIDN'T hear shitty rap.
this. I feel like rap was only sometimes played in the very early 90s to about about 30% of the videos in the mid 90s to like well over 60% by the late 90s (either rap or R&B or crappy boyband type acts or buttrock)
I notice that people say millennials are the children of boomers and zoomers are the children of xers, but that leaves out the early 60s group. My parents were born in 1962 and 1964. I was born in 1994 and my sister was born in 1997. It's hard to tell whether we're a boomer/millennial family or a xer/zoomer family.
The propaganda was that after communism fell, we were going to live in a new world order of peace and prosperity - I don't know any normal people who believed that shit, mainly because the old blue-collar middle class was pretty close to dead by that point.
But if you were an upper-middle class suburban white person in the 90s, it was pretty great - but you could say the same of any decade, right? For most Americans, at least economically, things would have peaked in the 50s or 60s - when one guy working at a factory could come home to his house in the burbs with a pool, two cars and a wife who doesn't have to work.
2007 was the end of culture. Literally nothing new or creative has been made since then, only derivatives.
And after that 2012 was the end of society, with Obama's reelection and the sudden surge of SJW and identity politics.
Fucking this
>But if you were an upper-middle class suburban white person in the 90s, it was pretty great - but you could say the same of any decade, right? For most Americans, at least economically, things would have peaked in the 50s or 60s - when one guy working at a factory could come home to his house in the burbs with a pool, two cars and a wife who doesn't have to work.
This. It's no wonder we long for the pre millenium decades. Seems the only way to be economically comfortable at bare minimum these days is to either live outside of a major city or be a millenium yuppie.
At least no one seems to care about drugs anymore, but that's a double edged sword.
It's fucking wierd to go from that new promised peace to 911. We've been at perpetual war and everything feels like it's been downhill since then.
dumb, weak take.
Yeah, I agree. Besides the gov raping our rights and the fear mongering to get us all riled up to die for the goals of Greater Israel, nothing changed. At least, nothing dramatic. Globohomo was a slow burn and that first started decades ago despite the normalization you could see and point to in the (((mainstream)))
I literally don't recall a single one of those songs by name. Probably cos I wasn't such a faggot
Pointed out earlier how that change came with Puff Daddy. Gangster Rap & Hip Hop was real before that then came the fullblownkike commercialization of it to white youths. Was pushed earlier but that's when it took hold and especially when Emeniem cohencidently blew up
>It's hard to tell
NO. You're 100% Boomer/Millennial Scum!
well, maybe not the last part but yeah
At least nu-metal was SOMETHING, everything is so fucking stale these days.
A concept everyone evokes at some turning point in history. In this case, it was the widespread of neoliberal capitalism. It might very well be, but not as the perfect system, but as the one that will finally destroy the planet.
Indeed. Fixed exchange rates, public schooling, housing... Post-war renewal might be the brightest period.
John Bolton is the one continuing this neocon legacy, currently.
i can confirm this is all true
t. 18 year old silent generation
>you have millennials/revisionists saying 1998-2004 was the golden age of pop culture or "the 90sest era ever"
That's retarded
No one actually says that right?
>there are legal adults right now who never even took a breath in the 90s
There are retards in their 20s on Youtube who say Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, Backstreet Boys and Blink 182 was peak 90s, when saying that in 2004 would have been considered ridiculous at best
I don't know if i would say there were no whites who didn't listen rap or hip hop before late 90s. Fucking Public Enemy was in sweden.
That's what every generation does dude, just a cycle. On other sites, now you've got older zoomers who grew up on Minecraft bashing younger zoomers who grew up on Fortnite.
Why was everything so orange in 1998-1999?
It does make me miss the days when there wasn't pop culture at all. Before there was globe-spanning TV, newspapers and radio, every country, county, and even town had its own unique, distinctive culture.
The fact that kids growing up in San Francisco now have more or less completely the same childhoods as kids growing up in Sydney, Australia disturbs me.
Yep. Now zoomers are posting childhood nostalgia for 2008-2014 music and saying it was the "golden age of pop". When that era was universally hated when it was new.
>metal was dead..
what are you talking about bro, metal is thriving. It just doesn't have mainstream appeal anymore.
yep I know exactly what you mean man, the early mid ninties period with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden bands like this for example it felt like we were reliving a great era like the 1960's then by 1999 it was just non-stop britney spears, xtina, black girl groups, limp biscuit etc etc etc.
How fucking old are you...
>Now zoomers are posting childhood nostalgia for 2008-2014 music and saying it was the "golden age of pop".
I was a teen/early 20s and it unironically was tho. Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha all in their prime. Only someone with a stick up their ass would deny.
you're not really immersed in the culture until about 10-20yo, earlier than that you kind of live in your own little bubble within family/school/church etc.
>90-92 felt like an awkward extension
90-92 was comfy as fuck. We still had white male pop stars. The nirvana explosion was fun but brought the coming of buttrock and the death of white music.
>the early 90s was like a continuation of the late 80s, it was its own little thing
>then the mid 90s had a bit of the early 90s left but with Windows computers, it was its own little thing too
>then came the late 90s with its teen movies and pop music, which was also its own little thing
>then the early 2000s was like a continuation of the late 90s, it was kinda like its own little thing
>then the mid 2000s was its own little thing too
>then the late 2000s we started having viral youtube videos and the beginning of social media, it was its own little thing
>then the early 2010s smartphones became commonplace and it was its its own little thing
Do you realize how retarded you all sound? Of course every period has its own identity. There's no point trying to label them as "this is 90s, this is not 90s", because they don't suddenly become something, its always a gradual process.
Hardcore was the last white artform. Now all that is left is vargtards and larpmetal.
A lot of people on Yea Forums have ranted on the late 00s-early 10s as being the downfall shit era for pop culture (specifically 2007), but you've also got these Gen X oldfags whose benchmark is further back and think the late 90s-early 00s were the downfall.
If the late 90s-early 00s were already shit to you guys, then what does make the late 00s-early 10s.... uber-shit?
Pop culture reached other countries later than America
>2000's were the best years for the internet and best years for television
also vidya
Politically the 90s began when the soviet union fell and ended with 9/11.
Culturally I'd say there are 2 different distinct eras: 91/92-97 and 98-04. I liked both, fight me.
>I was a teen/early 20s and it unironically was tho. Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha all in their prime. Only someone with a stick up their ass would deny.
Kill yourself. I graduated high school in 2011 and the late 2000s early 2010s were a horrible period for music. I can't say if it was better or worse than today, but everything post mid 2000s music is just bad
for me, it was '08 when the downfall started
Cars went to shit after 2007 as well.
Its not. I always thought there was something about 2007 even before finding out that other people had the same opinion. I think it was when the internet became fast enough for people to be glued on it all day long, so they stopped consuming non-internet real life bullshit, so companies started losing money and stopped giving a fuck about quality and innovation. That's my 2 cents anyways
2007 was also when Cartoon network had gotten rid of all the good shows and the zoomer childhood culture was in full swing
Any other zoomers nostalgic of driving with your mom to get pictures from that place that you used to get pictures from? Don't even know what its called.
Zoomer so I know basically nothing about the 90s. I get the political boundaries, but could you explain the cultural ones?
Whats the difference between the 2 eras?
>Literally nothing new or creative has been made since then, only derivatives.
Yeap. Guess what came out in 2007 as well? It's just been a boring evolution of the same bullshit ever since.
hated that song back than. now I kinda dig it
is this actually nostalgia?
>tfw we can never go back
The Iphone was more like the last nail in the coffin that was hammered in 2012, when it stopped being a luxury item and everyone already had one. 2007-2011 was more about social media, with normies all of a sudden getting interested in the internet
I’ve been saying this for years and no one listened. Too busy pretending the first Avengers movie wasn’t shit
talking about steal my sunshine
The first signs of the permanent decline we're currently in happened during 2006. That year the crapbox 360 & Youtube got popular, south park went to shit, the WB netwok closed, VHS tapes were phased out for blu-ray, and Steve Irwin died. The world that non-zoomers knew was coming to an end, with the last gasp of the old school being in 2005.
Cars went to shit in 00s. Now they're okay though.
>shit has been more or less the same since 06 but with better technology.
Fucking this.
On the topic of capeshit, all of the ones that were so good like Spiderman and Xmen turned to shit after 2006
cringe hipsterfaggot, move out of your gf's loft
>I was a teen/early 20s and it unironically was tho. Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha all in their prime. Only someone with a stick up their ass would deny.
I just can't even understand this sort of mentality.
Early Lady GaGa was pretty good bubblegum pop, but her "art" persona was fucking obnoxious and ruined pop music imagery for years.
Early Perry was extremely disposable pop music that everyone forgot within ten seconds of hearing it, case in point how many people remember that she sung songs about calling a straight fella a faggot for being effeminate or kissing a girl for attention? Not many.
Ke$sha was pretty much the limp bizkit of that era, except even worse, musically.
You need to get your head checked.
Culture has been declining since the 70's. Every decade since then has been worse since the one before it.
I'm a boomer and the only good parts of the 2000s was dumb reality tv like Flavor of Love and kek shit like the virginity/turning 18 clocks for female celebrities. Raimi Spiderman was a lot better than capeshit as well
The hipster plague and somethingawful goon garbage (which birthed trannies and most of the 'shitlord hellworld problematic' morons dominating media ever since) was already quietly infesting everything in the background by 2005. Then this made it go nuclear
>80s better than 90s
>saying this on a tv/film board
Now 98-03 zoomers rant about how 2012 was the last good year to the Fortnite turbo zoomers born in 2006
based, triggered zoomers in the replies
You were 3 in 93, fuck off poser. I’m 29 and I don’t really remember any popular culture prior to late 90s pokemon stuff
based Anal Cuntposter
He was 4 in 93
Boomers and lewronggenerationers directed their hatred at shit like Justin Bieber, One Direction, Nicki Minaj and LMFAO because they were utter soulless dogshit regardless of what Yea Forums says
Even that nostalgic zoomertard is exercising some inadvertent quality control by only putting the most catchy songs on their list. Its not like they're putting Beez in the Trap (formerly trendy) on it
>I'm 30
>Animal Collective
Aaand thats all I need to know about you
The post-ironic meme culture killed off all the 90s and early 2000s culture. Stuff that was awesome suddenly is "cringe" and "yikes". Honest, unironic, intelligent humor turned into politically loaded self-deprecation. "Geek" and "Nerd" culture turned into being a trannie or a rainbow colored dyke. The bright yellow/green/orange colors of 90s(YoYos, legos, water guns,roller blades) turned into gay meme depression grey and black smartphone shit. Everyone turned into a sheep thinking they're an individual.
1998-2004 was its own micro cosm of an era. You have to have lived as a teen+ at that time to know what I’m talking about. Everybody on the planet was excited about the year 2000, the future was NOW. The internet was making its mainstream breakthrough, everything was becoming smaller and faster etc etc. So everybody was aiming for that ideal of hitting the new millennium on the ground running. Then the attack on WTC happened, the dot com bubble and all the hype surrounding the new millennium fizzled out, ending in around 2004.
This is what many don’t get, that those years are an era totally by itself.
What I'm getting that is that people used to explicitly view that era as culturally "not 90s" but rather proto-2000s.
But now in 2019, people born in 94 whose first memories were in 99 are saying how 98-04 was "the 90sest 90s time ever".
you could try looking outside of what's currently in the mainstream
That's WIKI WIKI WILD
WIKI WIKI WILD
>he doesn’t know that 07 effected indie-mid budget films the harshest
I just want to relive 1999. Is that too much to ask?
It's true. NIN embodies the 90's ethos; all this anger and nowhere to direct it.
The Katy Perry/Lady Gaga stan wars, now that was when music meant something
GenXers aren't obsessed with the 90s, millennial. The entire decade was awful.
getting old has its negative side of losing your youth and the physical and intellectual prime of your life fading away, but it's great because you start to slowly not give a fuck anymore and to try to live life the way you've always intended to.
was born in the late 70s. so i have actually lived the 80s as a kid 90s as a teen 00s as a young adult, 10s as an adult who knows a bit more shit and can confirm : 2000s were the best year for internet. there was a golden age of television that is still the benchmark for the executives who try hard to replicate or at least approximate ... and fail but there are still some ok tv being made that makes me think the tv "renaissance" is not totally over yet.
but internet... man. it finally came together. there are things people don't know or forgot because nobody talk about it but some technologies actually shape our consciousness: it's been like that for all technologies starting with the invention of writing but i'm telling you: when search engines actually started to be very competent it changed people's brains. nobody talk about that. that happened in the early 00 with google.
another thing people don't talk about /don't know about was growing up with no access to culture. i almost killed myself out of desiring to bond with like-minded people when i was a teen, now you can read up about anything , know about any thing , connect with any groups based on a shared interest in an instant. all that got perfected in the 00s.
the internet got its shit together in the 00s where at the end of the decade basically "everything" is on youtube, everything is piratable (obscure movies, tv shows from other countries). being able to download rare imports for free was ground breaking in the early 00s for me... actually accessing all the culture i want without money... free to discover all there is out there . do people talk about that? are young people of today curious about all the genres of music there are out there and their histories, i would presume there should be more people like that than ever but i can't see it locally anyway... the millenials and zoomers i know locally are not looking like they consume a lot of information.
Everyone thinks the stuff when they were teenagers is the best
>They fucked up Iraq and now it's Iranian clay. They fucked up Syria and now it's Russian/Iranian clay.
why do you people always call it "clay" and not "land" or "soil" or "territory" like a normal person
how the fuck are the years 2009-2004 90s core you retarded faggot?
>98-99 is proto 00s
More like 2000 was an extension of the late 90s. The decade/century/millennium truly started in 2001.
People used to lump 98-99 in with 2002-2003, but now revisionists say 98-99 culture like Pokemon and Limp Bizkit had more in common with the rest of the 90s, when everything after 97 was all the same shit to gen x borns
Grunge was dead by 1995, got taken over by anything "alternative" or "indie", so groups like Smashing Pumpkins, Counting Crows, Live, Dave Matthews Band took over. Pearl Jam soldiered on but virtually quit playing grunge after Vitalogy.
It's really kind of a bridge era, by 2002 everybody was getting on the internet, but 1998-99 there was still a lot of pre-internet attitude in culture and people. You could still be amazed by visiting a web page.
>'87-'91
>'92-'96
>'97-'01
This is how I split it up
Itt: rosetinted faggots who dont understand that they feel isolated in a era that no longer pertains to them so they berate others by telling them their era was better.
>'97-'01
I've seen people call this Y2k era. People just becoming aware that "the net" is a big thing but generally optimistic about it, no post-911 terrorist anxiety yet, major cultural production is generally carefree in movies and music.
This. Arguing where this era goes is dumb because it was an era all it’s own.
>how the fuck are the years 2009-2004 90s core you retarded faggot?
what did he mean by this?
thanks for that assessment Dr. Shekelburg, any other incites we should know about?
You're just an idiot zoomer. There are advantages/disadvantages to every era. We've gained some great stuff, but we've also lost some great stuff. Things like the internet/smart phones have irrevocably changed the way life is lived and is some ways it's good, but in other ways it's been pretty fucking bad.
For a little perspective on the pure existential tragedy of the Human Spirit that is Fred Durst - He is in his 30s in this picture.
here's another (You) from a fellow 93-97 high school era user for your on point accuracy
Yea thats what i mean based boomer.
the whole 90s and early 2000s were absolutely dreadful, the lowest point in the history of culture. Things have only gotten better since then. LMFAO was the light at the end of the tunnel of cultural emptiness and decay
90s fashion was so unpretentious. Everyone dressed liked bums and I loved it.
Yeah, I associate this era with American Pie, Sugar Ray, and TRL, all stuff about just goofing off. I'm core millennial born 1990, so it always felt like Gen X stuff that my cousins and the older kids down the street were into, but I know that some 1974 or 75 gen xer would look at it as not of his generation
people still do user its called homeless chic, you'll see it in every depressedwave/ angsty insta thot page
The golden age was 1999-2004. 2005-2009 was meh, 2010-2012 was good, 2013-now are utter shit worse every year.
>t. 96' zoomer
>The golden age was 1999-2004
>>t. 96' zoomer
Disgusting
99 born here everyone I know hates people born in 2004+, but specifically just 2004 babies. Those fuckers get so much shit and I always see them complain about how much everyone hates them it’s pretty funny.
Pop culture died when web-based interaction started completely taking over people's lives, somewhere in the mid-2000s or so with the creations of Myspace, Facebook, and Youtube.
The internet is a meta-culture. It's every pop culture movement combined into one and available instantly any moment you want.
If you were a kid in the 90s, one thing you never did was listen to older music. If you were caught listening to 70s or 80s shit you were a social pariah. You listened to whatever was new and on MTV and that was it.
It's not like that anymore. Kids today go on youtube and listen to 60s music, 70s music, 80s music, etc. because it's all there, instantly available.
Pop culture can only flourish with a sense of time. The internet is effectively timeless and since it's drastically changed the way people interact, it's basically rendered the idea of pop culture obsolete.
Now everything is a meme, a parody, or a copy of something that came before.
you don't fucking know, you're a zygote
fuck off gramps, go drink monster and watch fag shit like lost and prison break
cant wait for phycadelic swing, metal jazz, citywave blues, dubstep rock, etc.
That shit is for your rotten generation.
>If you were a kid in the 90s, one thing you never did was listen to older music. If you were caught listening to 70s or 80s shit you were a social pariah. You listened to whatever was new and on MTV and that was it.
That's absolutely not true. Stop lying, zoomer.
When I discovered the internet back in ‘97, I had no idea what to do with it. I used it mostly to search for shows I watched as a kid and see what came up.
Anyone with no memories from before the mid 2000s is literal human trash, like my cousin born in 2003
I have a cousin born in 2003 as well. He literally said “Wait, this movie is from the 80s? Shouldn’t it be in black and white?” I don’t know if he’s just retarded or if all zoomers are just that retarded.
user you aren't being a very good cousin
You had no idea what to DO with it? Before the internet was even a thing me and my elementary school buddies were typing "sex" into the school library's computerized card catalog
Zoomers are literally all retarded. They think MLK ended slavery and that Hitler had a side in the American civil war
You ever notice how zoomers lack basic human decency and how warped their thinking is? I blame being exposed to the internet for their entire lives. Hell, even the internet has gotten phenomenally worse since zoomers started participating. They are the worst shitposters I have ever seen.
i have cousins born in 02 and 03 respectively and the last time I met up with them they were talking about how much they missed blockbuster and gamecube and stuff like that. i was surprised how much they appreciated stuff like that, because people around MY old ass age talk the same way.
Which is ironic since those your age born in the late 90s used to be hated on by those born in the early 90s.
I distinctly remember a few years ago when people born in 1990 were like "Don't put me in with beliebers born in 99 who don't remember VHS or 9/11." But now you've got all these zoomers saying "98-03 born gang remembers all the old school stuff like VHS" and it's hard to tell if they're lying to look older, or telling the truth.
2003 borns say how they wish they were emo teens in 2006 instead of 3 years old. I can't even imagine how much of a bygone era the 90s and 80s must be like to them
I specifically remember being in a bowling alley when I was around 7 or 8 and seeing a bunch of rap songs and weird dance songs like Barbie girl playing on the screens. I definitely had a weird feeling that this stuff was alien and foreign to me and I think in hindsight that was the beginning of the culture shift.
If you weren't born during the existence of the Soviet Union you are not an adult and you will unfortunately never be an adult
VHS didn't really die out until 2006 or so. Hell my family has a huge collection of tapes. Those early zoomers got the last remnants of the "old culture".
All of you zoomers need to go listen to "Right Here Right Now" by Jesus Jones and realize that even though it was a one-hit wonder, that song genuinely captured the mood of an era. We were that unironically hopeful. The future looked that bright. You guys spend every day memeing about depression and suicide, but you have to understand just how different it was back then. The 90s in America were actually a lot less safe in a lot of ways, but there was a fundamental pride and hopefulness in just being American that you guys will probably never know.
Can anyone here describe what life before internet was like? I was about 7 when we got internet in 2000 so I only remember a little bit. Things feel more hectic and disjointed these days to me.
If you were born post 1997 (or early 1998 at the very latest) then you didn't experience 90s leftovers of the early 2000s like VHS tapes since you literally didn't start forming memories until 2005 when the 2000s lifestyle was in full effect. If you did experience it then it's because you were a poorfag whose family still had a VHS player when it wasn't relevant anymore
why do photos from that era always have that "look"? People being overly pale with almost glowing pale skin, a bit like the "bloom" setting
It would probably seem boring by modern standards but it wasn't that boring at the time because we didn't know any better. It was slower and less connected. When you did a thing, you pretty much just did the thing. You didn't have an instant portal to the rest of the world with you. One of the things I remember the most was the joy of hearing a song you loved on the radio or seeing a show/movie on TV. You couldn't just go online and have everything at your fingertips. You had to wait. Which sucked - don't get me wrong - but you fucking LOVED that shit when it came around.
Another crazy thing while I'm sort of free associating is how long it took to see a movie again once it left theaters. I remember loving the shit out of Jurassic Park one and then having to wait, like, six months until it came out on VHS. But again, that wait made it so much fucking better when I saw it again.
Might depend on if they had older siblings or if their parents were too poor to buy dvds.
>you could only get phonecalls when you were home, unless you had a beeper and went to a payphone (yes, we had payphones)
>if you wanted to watch something, you either had to catch it at a certain time on TV, record it on VHS with a preprogrammed VCR or go rent it from a video store
>television was flooded with old content, like cartoons from the 60s and kids grew up on an array of television ranging from various decades. the switch to HD killed all older content and now kids don't watch timeless stuff like The Flintstones
>kids played outside mostly all day, just little gangs of children roving the neighborhood streets
>teens/adults with nothing to do would hang out on street corners or in parks or at the mall
>life was generally more oriented towards outside of the home
>if you and someone disagreed about something, you couldn't look it up on wikipedia or google and instead had to agree to disagree
>gay was an insult ("dude that's gay as hell")
>wallet chains were cool and the clothes were baggy
Look at the people in the background. The guys in the foreground are just getting flashed with bright lights.
only a fucking fagot millenial trash would think 93-97 was "peak" genx music.
old ass genx'er here to set you straight.
if you ask a genx'er i'm sure you'd get a lot of different answers about peak music, though generally most would agree 87-95 was peak genx; take your pick between hiphop, pop music, rock or metal. This was peak music.
Now if you're talking grunge/alternative, Alt rock died and became pop-shit around 96 with the release of sixteen-stone by bush, tiny music by Stone temple pilots, load by metallica, and Insomniac by greenday.
that's not to say there wasn't good music the rest of the decade or into the 2000s, (or 2010s) just that peak GENX music died in 96. Everything that came after was mostly Millennial shit.
The only good thing from proto 20's were the tony Hawks games.
Prove me wrong, pro tip: you absolutelly can't
You're more right than wrong here.
It's insane to think of how casually "gay" was used as an insult. It was on par with, like, "dumb." It just meant something slightly uncool or silly, and everyone used it.
We usually didn't even mean it as an insult towards homosexuals. It was just a thing. If something was bad, then shit was fucking gay.
lmao, you racist retard. White people have been the #1 customer of rap since its fucking inception in the 70s.
Do you think poor blacks could afford to go to concerts, or buy multiple albums a year? It's always been middle-class whites propping up the hip-hop industry.
I bet the music you listen to is equally garbage.
The 80's were a great time to be a kid. The 90's were garbage from about '93 on up. The 00's also sucked, but were a little better.
If you're basing all of this on mainstream culture (music, films, etc.), then the world is completely dead in the 10's.
I once told my mom that I didn't want to carry an insulated lunch box to school because they were gay. She said that was ridiculous and asked my dad to tell me it was ridiculous. He said "I don't know, they are sorta gay actually."
Zoomers are insanely stupid, but like any generation they have their future scientists, physicians, engineers, etc. Things just seem WAY more exaggerated and unevenly distributed. The vast majority of them are what I would call bafflingly stupid. So many of them remind me of a retarded version of Napolean Dynamite, like the dopamine in their brain is completely fried and the real world is exhausting to them. The future isn't going to be any less weird it seems.
GOAT aesthetic for female singers, no thots.
Stacie Orrico was my waifu
Based dad telling it like it was
Post slang from the '90s. I think I'm starting to forget most of it. I can remember
>gay
>dawg
>dude
and that's about it. I know there's more.
kinos for this feel?
