Give me one good reason this isn’t a good Star Wars movie and I’ll blow your stupid fucking opinion right out of...

It's boring.

>Give me one good reason this isn’t a good Star Wars movie
Nobody loses a limb

>Give me one good reason this isn’t a good Star Wars movie

No, I will never give you any reason and it's a bad Star Wars movie.

>and I’ll blow your stupid fucking opinion right out of the water.

No, you won't. Stay mad, Disneyshitter.

it sucks because it sucks
now go back to twitter

Try and defend anything in this scene. I dare you

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sure but snoke gets cut in half at least

Kylo Ren is no longer a Jedi, though.

Because it gave us shit troopers.

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Yes he is, don’t be stupid
Yes it was, you plebian, get the cum out of your ears
It’s called comedy, what are you, british?
This is not true and also actually an impossibility
This is what it means to chug dog cum
Shit troopers are based troopers

>This is not true and also actually an impossibility
I was bored watching it. I have no desire to rewatch it because it was boring.

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This is falsehood

No, it bored me.

comedy value.

It's based shit.

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she forcibly kissed him. if a man did this, there would be uproar.

shit choreography, where did his second knife go?

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Casino scene

Impossible and not based

10/10 for this alone

It's particularly odd, since she seems to react to being cut by it.

Because it unwatchable poorly written garbadge and kyle rens actor is one of the ugliest fucking creatures to ever disgrace the screen with his grotesque disproprtioned features.

a good question for another time

Is she just insanely bad at following choreography or did they just shoot this once and say fuck it? There’s multiple instances where the guards have to avoid hitting her because she was slow on her timing.

Rey isn't a nudist

Don't forget the bombing run at the beginning. They literally sent these slow ass rickety ships after a capital ship that could travel faster than them, all the fucking thing had to do to avoid destruction was move. But no, no evasive maneuvers, no throwing it in reverse, they just sit there. They can go faster than the speed of light, but they just sit there.

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Hey the funniest moment in Star Wars is when Kylo takes his helmet off for the first time.

>character's arcs are fucked; rey is a perfect princess from beginning to end, luke dies before having even a moment of screentime after he stops being jake, main villain is killed off prematurely which ruined the story so much they're reviving a dead villian for tros
>finn and rose subplot was boring
>shitty cgi on porgs and the greenscreening on the casino
>poorly choreographed fights
>degenerate feminism
>contradictions to franchise; why didn't luke use the force to fly when he escapes vader in empire, hyperspace is misinterpreted, why didn't they use the hyperspace ram on the death star, rey doesnt have parents

Watch this video to see why this movie is shite youtu.be/5ECwhB21Pnk

Great story with relatable and lovable characters

Rose

Still haven't gotten a (You).
Time's up, OP.
I win. Now stop shilling your Reddit Wars.

Based

came here to post this

Holy shit OP btfo and his lands were salted

No tits

I didn’t mind it. I mean it was strategically dumb but it was a good space fight. I stand by the first 30 minutes or so of the film being pretty good.

Basically it all goes to shit after that first scene between snoke and kylo. Like around when purple hair lady is introduced. Everything after that point is just fucking trash

Canto Bight is the most useless subplot in all of the movies

>Give me one good reason this isn’t a good Star Wars movie and I’ll blow your stupid fucking opinion right out of the water
>Only gives out low tier bait responses
Atleast fucking humor us a little faggot

>Good space fight
>Big ass bombers get blown up in one hit, which explodes other bombers
I mean why not just use fucking Y-bombers for fucks sake. Not to mention the absolute butchering of General Hux as a character

Fuck off Rian.

You forgot one fighter both stalling the whole enemy fleet with your mamma jokes and taking out every laser cannon on the enemy flagship.

Based

She is bad. Some stunt double guy noted that the guards keep having to do extra spins and twirls because she is behind on her choreography, which is causing all sorts of issues. Its why guys are just jumping in and out of frames for no conceivable reason.

I fucking love how the cannons meant for small fighter ships aren't designed for small fighter ships.

Gotta feel bad for the stunt men. They're doing there jobs really well, but are getting blamed because the actress can't keep up. I mean does Adam have a hard time keeping up because I hardly see people complain about his part of the scene

Y-wings you fucking nerd

Also I would have liked to see them too. They’re probably my favorite ship next to the republic gunships. Still, I’m not saying it was a solid plan of attack. I’m just saying I liked to watch it.

General Hux being made a bitch wasn’t so bad. Probably because I’ve seen supervisors at work getting BTFO in front of the rest of us before and it was glorious.

OP complete and utterly BTFO

Did kids like it? It seems like there's nothing for them. It's so weird and cynical and then the parts which seem aimed at kids seem way too dumb. Maybe it's cause Rian doesn't have any children or made a kids movie before.

> I stand by the first 30 minutes or so of the film being pretty good
> your mom joke
user, I...

This is why the modern movies are so shit. They don't grasp how tone works on any real level. Star Wars is seen as a kids movie yet it has some really dark moments. They don't counteract those dark moments with asinine jokes, they counteract that with a generally fun adventure. TLJ had those darker moments, but didn't have a fun adventure to it at all

Start around the 4 minute mark
youtu.be/OL83p4GxAvw

pic related

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factual and based

Is this whole thread not humorous? What more do you want from me?

>Dark Jedi
Doesn't count.

He's clearly not handsome, you blind moron.

What is a sith

You’re just jealous of his pecs

Because its a bad movie backed up by a massive company meaning it will give people a few cents to shill for it for over a year.

because it's boring fan fiction.

Not him. Disney is very adamant about that. Snoke and Kylo are "not Sith", since Vader eradicated the Sith. As to where their key differences lie, who can say. For one, the Force doesn't give them yellow eyes, like ever. Apparently Sith chose to be ugly fuckers and Rens and Snokes can opt out.

>Give me one good reason this isn’t a good Star Wars movie and I’ll blow your stupid fucking opinion right out of the water.

1. Because it was written by a committee of diversity hires who gave no fucks.
2. Every fight was trash and had no weight to them
3. Disney ruins everything they touch

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nothing seems to happen to anyone in the film. Kylo Ren isn't tested, Hux is unscripted, Leia fumbles as a delegate, FN goes on a groggy date with a tranny, Poe runs in circles around the leaders, Rey and Luke just skype with the villain.

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Yeah, Snoke was definitely a looker.

Dooku didn't have yellow eyes and only looked bad due to being a walking corpse IRL.

I was right bored mate and you seem like a nigger

Yeah, it's definitely the narrative equivalent of treading water. Kylo ends the movie re-affirming his commitment to the dark side...which was his entire arc in TFA. Rey ends the movie committing to stopping evil Kylo....which was exactly how she ended TFA. The not!Rebellion ends the movie in dire straits after a not!Imperial superweapon savages them...exactly like how TFA ended. The First Order suffers a massive tactical defeat that doesn't actually change the status quo in any appreciable way... just like they did in TFA. Finn is nearly killed helping the not!Rebels despite maybe not being 100% on board with... just like he did in the last movie. They off Luke and Snoke, but neither one was really doing anything anyways. Poe doesn't really grow at all; there's no indication that he learns anything from the whole (absolutely retarded) secret plan mutiny thing, and that lack of growth is extra noteworthy given the praise that Captain Progressive and Leia heap on him at the end of the movie. Rose was a token diversity character that's being cut from the next movie.

Hyperspace ramming completely ruins space combat in universe forever. There's absolutely no way for massive capital ships to be viable when any two-bit space pirate can toss an obsolete astromech into a scrapyard reject ugly and 1HKO anything.

Luke
>says he came to the island to not be found even though there was a map he left In case anyone needed him
>finds a lightsaber that’s a family heirloom that he last saw getting lopped off his fucking hand and fell millions of feet and just chucks it over the side as as a comedic fakeout
>>loses to Rey in a fight even thought she literally found out the force was real yesterday
>the fact that even for a fucking second Luke thought of murdering a 9 year old for struggling with the dark side
>even though darth vader killed millions at the absolute least and Luke still fought to redeem him
>and Luke’s big sacrifice is as a fucking illusion even though he could’ve easily tracked Rey
>plus he kisses leia’s head and gives her dice.two real and tangible things he does.
>Mark Hamill obviously hates the direction they went with the character
This movie has so so so many problems but the main reason for me is that Luke is fucking DESTROYED

Based

He's not a dumb Jedi, but he is very handsome and beautiful and strong and sexy. And he's the main character, so it should count anyway.

He has an ugly face.

He has an ugly camel face.

So? He's still SHREDDED and bitches love him.

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She used the force to make it disappear you dingus

OP on suicide watch.

>some retarded fanboy admits he's a butthurt fanboy

wow great unbiased opinion totally not discarded at all

especially since the other two were like "what's so bad about it?"

>muh stupid force flips

This is why stuntmen aren't choreographers and aren't writers. fuck off with your shill shit channel

and the part where he said the guy was waiting for Kylo, the guy is clearly fucking attacking him and not waiting

it's like the dumb autists here who just repeat shit and expect you to believe them even thought the actual evidence says otherwise.

Because his parts are fine, and even have character to them.

>Give me one good reason this isn’t a good Star Wars movie and I’ll blow your stupid fucking opinion right out of the water.

The events of the movie literally happen minutes after the last one giving the character no time to develop. Rey literally goes from 0 to yoda in three days

He's ugly face so he's not handsome.

kylo is going to kill her right after she tells she's pregnant right?

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>first thing the guy says
>UGHLDKJFLDKJF Im like a BIG STAR WARS FAN GUISE THIS HURTS MY SOULLLLLL

Immediately closed the video kek If i wanted to see an irrelevant fanboy crying, I'd just come here.

atleast you didn't complain about luke, he was written just fine imo but many think he was dishonored or something. Like he was supposed to be an all powerful warrior messiah which woulda been lame.

Hasn't held him back from anything.

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>Luke is all about doing the right thing, no matter what
>Fucks off for absolutely no reason after trying to kill his nephew for absolutely no reason, after already throwing aside the dark side and saving Space Hitler.
Yeah, no issues here

The movie is very good, a solid 8/10. For the sake of the thread, I’ll argue that it’s not a good SW movie because KK was weak and let Rian kill off Luke. With Luke dead and JJ directing, IX is shaping up to be failure. A good SW movie would have set the table for the next one a bit better

It's not a good Star Wars movie, a good sequel, nor a good movie in general. It's absolute trash, and it's only saving grace is that it isn't Attack of the Clones

And all you even really need is Hyperspace Ram. It's the dumbest shit to ever make it into a Star Wars movie. Nothing else even comes close. It breaks the setting backwards, forwards, and sideways. Retard Johnson doesn't even understand real-world physics, let alone sci-fi shit. He apparently doesn't even get that the mechanics of hypertravel don't even allow it.

>mechanics of hypertravel don't even allow it.
I think the ram is fucking horrendous, but how does it not make sense? They have to go to FTL speeds to acces the alternate dimension that is hyperspace travel. So wouldn't it make sense that it could still hit that is just before FTL?

>So wouldn't it make sense that it could still hit that is just before FTL?
So wouldn't it make sense that it could still hit the ship right before reaching FTL?

>they obviously set up a romantic angle with Finn and Rey in TFA only for them to fall for other people a day later
>the republic is now suddenly a resistance even though the first order should be more hurt then ever with their superweapon being destroyed
>the absolute assasination of luke
>Finn and Rose’s subplot literally contributing nothing
>holdo withholding her plan while people are being murdered
>Rose sabotages finn sacrificing himself even though now thanks to her they’re all gonna fuckin die
>Snoke sends for kylo to complete his training only to insult him and that’s it
Done.

I can write a better trilogy than that and so can most people here, ergo it's not good

>they obviously set up a romantic angle with Finn and Rey in TFA

They hinted that Finn might like her, but she clearly freindzoned him and if you didn't have autism you would see they have zero chemistry or set up for an actual romance. The Kylo/Rey romance was 100% set up since TFA and it's very obvious.

The ONLY reason it wasn't mainstream idea was because SW has a very autistic pre-existing fanbase that made up a fanfic in their head that Rey was a Skywalker so people thought they were related even though there is next to nothing to even suggest this in the actual movie.

I honestly feel bad for some of the writers, because the fanbase is so fucking brainded and in love with their own headcanons they will never appreciate or even SEE the actual text for what it is.

It's funny that Reylo was a thing but they got shamed for shipping it because "they are related!" or "you're racist she's clearly going to bang the black dude" but it was already mainstream to want to fuck Kylo Ren and think he was sexy in his scenes with Rey.

Like, they were so close and it was so retarded that they could accept that Kylo was supposed to be attractive and those scenes were supposed to be sexually charged, but even though Rey is with him in the scenes they still denied the idea of Reylo.

Like, you don't fucking style your villain to look like a young Prince, with glorious coiffed hair if he's not going to have a romance with the heroine. My God, people are so wilfully fucking stupid it astounds me.

>the kylo/Rey romance was 100% set up since TFA
Uhhh
Was it?
Cause I haven’t seen TFA in a long time so feel free to correct me but from what I remember
>kylo kidnaps her and has her chained up
>then murders one of her friends and hospitalized another
>then she tried killing him
>then in last Jedi she says that kylo is a monster because she should
>then she suddenly talks about how she can redeem him and find the light within him
Do I have that right you fucking clowns?

Yes it was set up since TFA, sorry for your autism.

You clearly know nothing about writing or relationship/character development or how romance and relationship work in storytelling.

Kylo and Rey have the most contention, therefore they will go through the most development since they are the focus. Therefore they are the focus and the most important relationship. They are both young and a man and woman. They have intimate scenes together charged with sexual chemistry. Are you following me? Or do you still have autism?

She's not going to fuck the fat fucking manlet who she treats like a kid brother.

>let's have a romance for the ST

>should we have the heroine fall in love with the tall, dark and vulnerable SKYWALKER MALE or the fat ugly nobody who she has zero chemistry or intense scenes with?

>let's go for the ugly fat fuck. Truly a romance for the ages and fit for a space opera

Not likely.

>there is even an obvious trope of Kylo being possessive of Rey and kicking Finn's shit in for even being near her

My god, people have AUTISM with a capital A. He TOYS with Finn. After murdering his father, like he really has fucking time to toy with a NOBODY. But of course he does, because the traitor was running off with Rey so now he has to peacock and knock him down a peg and show him who the ALPHA is like the Skywalker man he is.

The subtext is EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE.

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Remember the time Anakin beat the shit out of a guy for trying to kiss Padme? Good times.

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>fat ugly nobody who she has zero chemistry or intense scenes with
Funny cause it's true kek. I actually feel sorry for Boyega. He thought he was signing up for something else entirely.

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You’re joking right?

It destroyed its own narrative.
It ruined a hero for no good reason.
It has a Star trek episode tacked on with some vague antiwar message with two characters nobody gave a shit about.
It was bland, boring, and soulless.
It didn't inspire because you can't deconstruct a myth with the original myth.
It wasn't creative in the way it subverted expectations, it was mean spirited, nasty, and hollow like it's creator.

Go to bed Rian. Your career is over.

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>let me take my mask of for you to reveal my young face and beautiful hair and princelike looks
>right after the scene where it's revealed I am Han and Leia's son
>"don't be afraid, I feel it too"
>*cue Rey heavy breathing*

Yeah, they're totally not going to have the heroine fall in love with Han and Leia's son. He's totally a bad guy for all eternity. She's totally going to fall for a fucking nobody with zero relevance to the plot. Not the young Skywalker male heir. Great writing. Very exciting.

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>princelike looks
I feel bad about it now cause Driver turned out to be a great actor but half of the audience, incl. me, was laughing wjen he pulled off the mask. Dude looks like a Jew.

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And the First Order goes from what should have been a crushing defeat to

>THE FIRST ORDER REINS.

>no argument

In your defense, there are none. It's so obvious it hurts.

They have him carry her away like a Dark Prince on a fucking romance novel with Finn the cuck dramatically yelling "NOO REYYY" with the Romeo and Juliet theme playing in the background.

The funny part is, Finn is used for a romance but not his own. He's a plot device in the Reylo romance at best.

Kylo even spergs out when he realizes Rey is worried about Finn in the novel. The irony is that he has nothing to be jealous about but he has emotionally constipated himself to the point where he can't admit he wants to bone Rey so he's stuck wanting to murder anyone who gets close to her and not realizing why. Typical alpha male Dark Side "love is weakkk" shit. He'll grow out of it.

>no lightsaber fight
>ugly cast
>boring
>makes no sense

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>spergs out
What happens?

>he's stuck wanting to murder anyone who gets close to her

literally

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A good star wars movie sure, a good movie in itself? Not a chance in hell.

In the TLJ novel before they connect in the rain, he can sense her worrying about if Finn is okay and he says something like "I hope he dies". He's not happy she's worried about Finn lol

These two retards are like autists fumbling around their emotions is hilarious. Makes for good storytelling though, as long as they figure it out in the end.

The nother novel reads straight like a romance, too

>uwu Kylo Ren was stripped to his waist in his chambers and Rey struggled to keep her face on his eyes instead
>uwu his hungry needy eyes
>the connection between them was like a livewire in the wreckage of starship
>Luke found them staring into each other's eyes

Just fuck already, god damn. This amount of sexual tension is unironically going to explode the galaxy IX. Just watch.

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>as long as they figure it out in the end
According to the LARP spoilers they won't so I'm not holding my breath.

This was honestly the moment I knew something was up. Great visual storytelling. The bridal/princess carry is a fucking hallmark of romance.

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He doesn't toy at all with Finn. Finn gets a very good hit in on Kylo. Kylo is wounded from the bowcaster and, while he can still beat Finn fairly easily, he's not in a position to toy with anyone.

When do you think Boyega figured out he won't be the romantic lead lel?

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>LARP spoilers

Considering most "spoilers" I read can't even get basic public info correct, I think I'm safe in discarding them.

The interviews released all show major focus on Kylo/Rey and trying to tease the star-crossed lovers romance angle. It's already confirmed their connection goes even deeper and they have plenty of scenes alone together since JB opened his big mouth.

Nobody wanted him to be Paul Atreides, we just wanted him to be Obi-Wan from ANH- Old, wise, skilled, and ready to pass the torch

What we got was a guy who completely and utterly rejected the finale of RotJ and the moral lessons it imparted, wallowed in self-pity and allowed untold suffering to happen while doing nothing about it because he was struggling with a crisis of faith

Fuck Jake, fuck Rian Johnson, fuck Kennedy and fuck The Last Jedi

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speaking of which, I was watching some autist's video on youtube and he mentioned a spoiler/detail getting out recently and lawyers having to step in. anyone know what he was talking about?

...

Kylo was shitting on Rey until she got her powerup, he was toying with Finn easily.

>good hit

Because Kylo is unbalanced and Rey just woke up.

It's canon that he is toying with Finn. It's even detailed explicitly in official material. Not that it needs to be, it's fucking OBVIOUS to anyone who isn't blind. Are you fucking kidding me? I swear you people have such a strong denial of what is right in front of your faces I'm honestly surprised every time.

And immediately after he gets his "good hit" in, Kylo ends it and punches him in the face.

The entire point of his losses is that he is his own worst enemy. Finn isn't stronger than him, Rey isn't even stronger than him. He's unbalanced and therefore can never achieve true greatness. Snoke states this in the novel as well.

When he fought with Rey, he had conviction in the Throne Room. The point of his story isn't to defeat Rey, it's to defeat his own demons ya'll are so fucking dumb I never get tired of saying it.

But anyway, Finn a beta cuck who got shit rocked for touching Kylo's woman. Die mad about it. Finn is just a cuck beta plot device who's only purpose in that scene was to get his shit kicked in so Rey and Kylo could stare at each other intensely and grunt like sexually frustrated people they are for each other.

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This totally isn't the look of a Dark Prince captivated with the heroine.

He JUST sperged at Finn for touching the saber, but when Rey has it "UWU heart eyes"

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This is your Dark Prince tonight, Rey. Try to not to get sand all over him.

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JJ the OG Reylo coming through for IX hopefully.

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>this mental gymnastics
Rey beating Kylo was bullshit in TFA and even bullshitter in TLJ, the central conflict in this abortion of a trilogy is a fucking joke. You reylo shills have an uphill battle if you want me or anyone to give a shit about any of these characters

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She didn't beat him in TLJ and her beating him in TFA was bullshit, but Kylo's failures are entirely for his character development and to show his core conflict and the reason he can't ever get ahead. Because he has too much conflict inside him. He is his own worst enemy. Not Rey or anyone else.

and I couldn't give less of a fuck if you are, but if you are going to say stupid shit you're going to get corrected if I feel up to entertaining myself with you.

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Why call him Ren instead of Kylo? Isn't that like calling a sith Darth?

Kylo doesn't have character development, Kylo has inconsistent writing. One scene is talking about letting go of the past, the next is sperging out at his former master. Don't mistake conflict for contradiction. Kylo is two shit characters merged into one and Driver does his best to save the shit sandwich he has been given

Fuck if I know, even Hux calls him Ren in TLJ. Mabye it's because he's the Master of the Knights so he gets that title?

Kylo is the only character with consistency or character development. Go back to shitting on Rey, you actually have an argument there.

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You can't change TLJ without changing TFA first. There was a lot of potentials for the characters as they were pitched but they never stood a chance with that writing. Like why the fuck Rey is a goodie two shoes if she was left alone to survive and abused all her life. You'd think she would be a bit distrustful and ruthless

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>Go back to shitting on Rey, you actually have an argument there
And I have it with Kylo as well. What drives this character? What is he trying to accomplish? You can only give vague as fuck answers because there is no consistency nor coherent writing, he just shows up and becomes whatever the plot needs him to be. Trouble confused romantic interest, space Hitler, villain with redemption arc waiting to be aborted... Just a toy in thr hands of incompetent writers to play with. Rey is a boring ass Mary Sue but at least she's consistent in her nothingness, Kylo is a different kind of shit character but not any better

You need to be really fucking stupid to not like this film. It's easily the best Star Wars since Empire.

Have to admit this is true. I mean I like the character but only thanks to Driver's abilities as an actor.

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>no arguments

cucks never have any

>And I have it with Kylo as well

In your fucking dreams kek

>at least she's consistent in her nothingness

Oh, is this a shitty Reyfag in disguise? Disgusting.

1) inconsequential to the greater plot
2) muh logistics bullshit, its always been WWII in space
3) desu I agree with this one
4) no idea what this is referring to I forgot
5) not sure about the choreography but they definitely could have wrung the Snoke killing for more tension
6) only matters to legacy fans (brand whores) but yeah he was poorly written
7) nah it was kino, do you really want Star Wars to just keep being barren planets
8) most inconsequential character so I half agree but if you're really so anti-diversity you'd be happy Finn was ruined with a silly love interest

It's not true. And Driver is a good actor, I agree. The rest of your post is dogshit though, congrats.

Your style of arguing is deceptive and pointless because you aren't actually arguing about the story you are arguing that you don't understand the story so therefore it is bad. I can explain the story to you, but you can just say "but i don't understand and didn't get it so it's bad"

Come back when you have a real argument for once.

yeah that user is basically just saying he is a retard who doesn't understand anything. Thanks for sharing, I guess.

That explanation would be too obvious, the official version is that Snoke's shit got destroyed because of the tracker he has which exposed him to hyperspace for some reason.

>sòy wars
nuff said

Does Daisy Ridley have the most god-tier armpits on earth?

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I don't care about his powerlevel, but please draw me a fucking line between the Luke who believed in the good of his space hitler of a father who he barely knew, and the Luke who tried to kill his beloved nephew in his sleep...

>the tracker he has which exposed him to hyperspace for some reason.

How the fuck did Holdo know about it?

>biggest fucking dreadnought doesnt have any defences/cannons
>biggest fucking dreadnought gets taken out by a single fighter

Or, instead of just saying that an answer exists, you could just explain what his motivation is? I could easily do that for any of the OT characters, or even the PT characters, but its impossible to do for most of the ST characters.

>Rey isn't even stronger than him.
She overpowers his mind probe and turns it around on him after having known the force existed for all of 4 hours.

>tfw rey will never overpower you

why live?

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Based

lo and this is your main argument? try again autist

it's your problem that you are a faggot who likes dollfaced basedboys

>what are you British

Uh, what? I think you mean German. The British are well known for their comedy.

Have your free (you)

Because you like it.

AHAHAHAHAH

using youtube viedo as argument
just fuck off

>This is why stuntmen aren't choreographers
He's literally a hollywood stunt choreographer though. I bet you 95% of stunt choreographers were once stuntmen themselves.

>she got her powerup
>Rey just woke up
Yes, this is what's atrocious about it.

>forced diversity character

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exactly is crazy how many "bright minded fans" can't/wouldn't see it....

Why do you think her womb is rotten?

LOL
he is the only character with an arc
disney/lucasfilm cares about him the most
but dumb fanboys like you are saying they stand by faminizm you idiot

Whoever like this garbage should have their opinion discarded automatically.

I'm honestly not even right wing, but the SJW-ness in this movie was actually real. I even almost never see it in other movies, e.g. the black stormtrooper didn't even bother me, he was a great character but it was still filled with sjw-y bullshit.

They stop Chewbacca from eating meat to please the vegan morons.

They have an ENTIRE ARC of militant-feminism bullshit that is not even played well. They are supposedly showing dynamic misunderstood women but they were literally cunts on the screen anyway because they didn't even explain their plan, so it's as someone else said on a review that it turns out to be a misogynistic movie in the way that it turns the viewer against the women they were supposed to root for.

And worst of all?
It fucking destroyed the Star Wars saga itself. Luke Skywalker was the true heart of the original trilogy. He was the entire reason Anakin returned to the good side and brought balance to the force. THE ENTIRE HEART OF WHAT MADE THE STAR WARS STORY GOOD WAS CENTERED AROUND A BALANCED LUKE SKYWALKER.

And now he's a weak fool that almost kills a kid? Shut the fuck and never call your pitty self a filmmaker again.

Disney should return to what it did with Force Awakens. What they do best. Rehash original ideas but at least do it well.

and it's not like his mom is literally a princess or anything
Kylo IS a prince

>using youtube viedo as argument
No need to type it all out if the information is already readily available with helpful examples from the movies.

>they were literally cunts on the screen
I think the movie would have gotten an R rating if that were true.

> 6) only matters to legacy fans (brand whores) but yeah he was poorly written
You are a fool that should not be allowed to have an opinion on Star Wars.
When you, idiot, touch a script that has the name Star Wars on it, you are supposed to write STAR FUCKING WARS, not what you pulled out of you arse.
If you wanted to write your own movie, write your own movie, not STAR WARS.

Luke Skywalker was the heart of the original trilogy. He was the one that helped Anakin bring balance to the force. The original and best trilogy MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE without Luke Skywalker being a balanced individual in the end. If you DESTROY that you are not writing Star Wars but another franchise you idiot.

So again, fuck off and stop being a disrespectful little shit. If you want a money grab fuck off and earn it. Fuck off and write your own story arc. By raping the story of Star Wars itself, you are proving you only care about a fast money grab, you are incapable to making a new franchise and you don't deserve respect.

>be kylo
>kill snoke
>kill red guards
>save rey
>Say to her - "Be with me. Build the new world with me! This is our reason! It has been from the beginning, since you were a little girl with no last name and I was a little boy who couldn't control his anger! We do it together! We break the force...together"

what now?

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>Obi wan

You do know the old fucker was about to make him kill his dad without the telling him right?

...

Lucas' movies featured numerous female leaders, but they were shown to be competent and effective strategists

The ST features female leaders who are generally incapable of sticking to any kind of plan, they just make shit up as they go along while running away, in addition to giving rise to insubordination and literally getting their entire fleet wiped out

Conclusion: Disney's Star Wars hates women, not Star Wars fans

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>I can explain the story to you
Well I don't think you can and that's why you didn't. Go ahead and prove me wrong

Snoke is killed off 1 movie too early

She didn't have any powers prior to the probe that awoke her, and Kylo wasn't expecting that so it caught him by surprise and he cut her off almost as fast. He was also not going nearly as forceful as he did with Poe because he didn't want to hurt her

Disney basically takes dying franchises and it rapes them until they die completely during the milking.

They purchased Pixar right when it started dying to milk it until it dies.

They purchases Marvel right when we started seeing capeshit being repetitive to milk it and make repetition be so enormous it can't help it but kill it for decades.

And they purchased LucasFilm right when it run out of steam in order to milk it as far as it can before it dies.

Their BEST is when they make soft reboots, i.e. remakes in disguise like Force Awakens which is a shadow of Star Wars' self but at least its comfy. Their WORST is this, not only the milk it, they also rape the story to make no sense at all.

If you want to rape the entire heart of Star Wars and the reason of the redemption of Anakin, Luke Skywalker, change the name of the franchise, don't rape the story.

OP got destroyed multiple times this thread. Just how I like it.

>Just killed dad
>It's conflicted as fuck
>Got shot with a bowcaster
>Has been losing a ton of blood since
>Was trying to not kill or seriously harm Rey

Why do you niggas even watch movies anymore if you do it with your eyes closed

>They hinted that Finn might like her
Finn: "You got a boyfriend? A cute boyfriend?"

None of that has anything to do with Rey's goofy self-aware "Oh yeah the Force lmao" power-up. Have you seen the movie, user?

Having a narrow mindset and only paying attention to the posts you want to believe does do wonders

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Defend how they just got rid of my man Admiral Ackbar like a chump.

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Have you? Because she was still clueless at the beginning of TLJ until she used Kylo's knowledge as a crutch again

The movie shows his wound and instability but it doesn't really emphasize them much insofar as the outcome is concerned. It's a one-sided domination until Rey casually remembers she's in a Star Wars movie and turns the tide. It's bad. TFA is a boring movie because it's so desperate to be a contemporary power fantasy it undermines its own tension.

He is a shitty meme character.

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In terms of the story presentation it's not that big of a deal. Ackbar was never a major character. TLJ has bigger issues.

>Rose
>Canto Bight
>Jake Skywalker
>Holdo
>Leia Poppins
>Hyperdrive Kamikaze
>MaRey Sue
>Subversions
>Snoke's Death
>Quips
>Bathos
>Political Agenda
>Feminism
>Rian Johnson
>everyone getting the force
>bad acting
>bad choreography
>the master coder
>plot inconsistencies
>Non existence of consequences of actions
>dropped plot points like the Knight of Ren
>Finn getting resetted
>the ship designs
>gravity physics in space
>the insignificance of the plot
>bad special effects
>characters having abilities they shouldn't have like Finn being able to fly or Rey being able to swim
>Hux being turned into joke
>Poe being made useless
>Phasma inconsistencies
>the plans of the Resistance
>the incompetence of the First Order
>Maz Katana
>The alien designs
>the green alien milk
>the tonal shifts
>the pacing
>the editing
>Porgs
>the retcons and continuity errors
>Chewbacca being a non-character
>going nowhere with Kylo Ren
>the forced morals
>the disrespect for OT characters in general
>pic related

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>Rose
She was fine you dumb msygonist racist
>Canto Bight
Was a cool and unique place with colorful and fanciful alien designs much better than the prequels
>Jake Skywalker
Is a meme
>Holdo
She was fine you just don't like hair
>Leia Poppins
What?
>Hyperdrive Kamikaze
Only works in specific scenarios and looked amazing
>MaRey Sue
Reddit meme...
>Subversions
Are good do you like formulaic marvel movies?
>Snoke's Death
Was great snoke is shit
>Quips
It's ok when marvel does it
>Bathos
L2Spell
>Political Agenda
There is none
>Feminism
As opposed to Malenism?
>Rian Johnson
Is a nice guy and good director
>everyone getting the force
RJ made the force magic like the OT not genetic super powers like the PT
>bad acting
Wrong
>bad choreography
Opinion
>the master coder
Good character
>plot inconsistencies
Wrong
>Non existence of consequences of actions
Wrong
>dropped plot points like the Knight of Ren
Wrong
>Finn getting resetted
You mean fleshed out
>the ship designs
Opinion
>gravity physics in space
Magnetic bombs
>the insignificance of the plot
Wrong
>bad special effects
Wrong
>characters having abilities they shouldn't have like Finn being able to fly or Rey being able to swim
What?
>Hux being turned into joke
Always was a joke
>Poe being made useless
Saved everyone
>Phasma inconsistencies
Who cares
>the plans of the Resistance
What?
>the incompetence of the First Order
Just like the Empire
>Maz Katana
Wasn't in the film
>The alien designs
Are great
>the green alien milk
Was funny
>the tonal shifts
Opinion
>the pacing
Wrong
>the editing
Wrong
>Porgs
Ewoks
>the retcons and continuity errors
There are none
>Chewbacca being a non-character
He never was a real character
>going nowhere with Kylo Ren
Are you for real?
>the forced morals
Its Star Wars
>the disrespect for OT characters in general
They didn't get disrespected plus it's time for a new generation
>pic related

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>handsome

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>zero arguments: the post
Shills just don't give a fuck anymore, do they?

t. seething manlet

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I have more arguments than you alt-right larper.

You're both fucking retatded, how about that?

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Being mutilated and the dark side twisting your features are clearly two different things.

BASED
A
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Sadly facts trump opinions.

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>the main reason for me is that Luke is fucking DESTROYED
My main reason too

>guys the first order is going to kill us because we are outta gas and cant hide because they are looking out the window at us
>no problem we just leave in hyper space via this stealth ship we have without telling anyone and go park on a casino beach to get arrested
ryan johnson, the big brain man.

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Not written by George Lucas
Not canon
Rian Johnson is ugly and stupid
Stupid fanfiction for retards

B A S E D

George Lucas is a fat retard though

Yeah, well known for how bland and unfunny it is.

Keeping making that 5c an hour Sanjeep, hopefully you and Rakesh get out of the Disney troll centre one day and not have to walk 10km a day on the shitting street

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I wish she’d grip my fat throbbing cock like that.

No, you are a fat retard.

Go create your own star wars and then get back to me, tranny.

OP completely and utterly BTFO

I used to think that too but I looked into it and he's actually a bretty cool guy, just a little autistic.

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>when the TLJ apologist proves what a complete turbo autist we all knew he was

Said the guy who could not think of any theory

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Will it ever stop being funny how butthurt manlets and handsome losers get over Adam Driver? Sorry you don't have the it factor assholes.

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>You can't change TLJ without changing TFA first.
Sure you can.

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>don’t make fun of my fat gay space daddy!!!!

>don't make fun of my didney movies!!1 daisy ridley is hella charismatic you just dont understand ugh

Literal sex symbol

No, seriously, why didn't she just tell Poe what the plan was?

>Yo mama joke
>It’s called comedy
Comedy that was juvenile and entirely out of place in a battle scene.

Yo mama so british that she couldn’t teach you what good comedy is and now you can’t enjoy anything.

I dont care about identity politics enough to enjoy a movie more when a nonwhite character is ruined

I just dont want shit to feel forced and the movie to be good.

Turns Luke into a hypocritical old ass who dies like a coward doing nothing.

I can’t believe that is her actual face.

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he dropped it

>1) inconsequential to the greater plot
yeah, random kids developing abilities with the force with no training definitely won’t have any impact on the greater plot at all
>2) muh
just admit this was stupid. not sure what WW2 influence has to do with this?
>4) no idea what this is referring to, I forgot
are you new here?
>5) not sure about choreography
it was inexcusably bad, look it up or watch it again and pay closer attention
>6) only matters to legacy fans (brand whores) but yeah he was poorly written
im glad we can agree he was poorly written, but come the fuck on. the real brand whores are not the people for whom star wars was a huge part of their childhood, but the shills who would pay for dog shit if it had the star wars logo on it (ie people who defend a shit movie like the last jedi)
>7) nah it was kin-
“no!”
but seriously it wasn’t the planet itself as much as everything that happened on it.
>8) most inconsequential character so I half agree but if you’re really so anti-diversity you’d be happy Finn was ruined with a silly love interest
so since i didnt like one forced diversity character im supposed to be glad theres another? really not following your logic on this one, but again im glad we found a bit of common ground