/art/ - arthouse/experimental

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prove me wrong

Are you okay???

What will spine 1000 be?
Post predictions.

if I may say so myself

five hours of unreleased Twin Peaks scenes

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I need your help /art/ bros
I run a small film club, we play mostly arthouse stuff. The thing is, most arthouse stuff isn't readily available on the web, and if it is, most of the time is really low quality.
Where should I look for nice rips of arthouse films? We use Rutracker sometimes but that's it.
I know there are some private trackers and stuff but they are really hard to enter. I just want to keep the club running and play nice rips :(

Are there any films you couldn't find on rutracker?

Most of them, but sometimes I have problems with seeders and that stuff, or the rips aren't that good.

Torrentz.eu, rarbg, 1337x and rutracker is what i use and i found everything i was looking for so far.

Friendly reminder that I single handily saved the last thread with my world shattering examination of Birth of a Nation that not even the Griffithfag could top. Griffithfag is a genius but she’s also a rad fem queer lesbian, so of course she could never really understand Griffith like a man could. Yes, I saved /art/ selflessly while anons hurled insults at my efforts calling it extremely pathetic. Well look who’s laughing now

I finished watching the first part of The Human Condition 2: Japanese Boogaloo.
letterboxd.com/film/men-and-war/

While it's not actually "art house" since it's popular in Japan and in their top 200 films almost no one in the West has seen it.

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Faggot

Faggot

Some stuff is just too hard to find. I was looking forever for Lalka (1965), found a 7gig download, downloaded English subs off opensubtitles, and then I open it up to watch and it looks terrible and I can’t get the subs to synce. Lately I’ve gotten so lazy I’ll just exclusively watch shit that’s already on YouTube, and sometimes I’m such a cuck I’ll actually pay money to rent a 70 year old movie.

extremely pathetic

Can he be stopped?

Continues to get funding after making Putin critical film after Putin critical film, one of the few arthouse directors who hasn't fallen for the TV meme, still hasn't made a bad film

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>I was looking forever for Lalka (1965)

Based. I'm still missing a few early Has films. One day I will download them. Synching subs can be a nightmare, though. I've had instances of finding only one source for subs and then had those go out of synch multiple times throughout a movie. It is a pain but it's worth it.

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You mean 1968?

Go look at the last thread, its all true, they were begging me to save it, I had to step in. It was a Herculean effort but I brought it to the bump limit so help me God. I think I deserve a thank you, please brothers, reply to this post saying ‘thank you for your wisdom’

Only if you say that Birth Of The Nation is trash

Faggot

thank you for your wisdom

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We do not deserve one such as you, we truly are graced by your presence!

>literally who being funded by the CIA

For me? It's The Firm.

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The fucking faggots at Criterion delayed it again.
There's a theory gong around saying they're gonna wait for Comic-Con on Friday and announced the Godzilla box-set.

>still hasn't made a bad film

letterboxd.com/smiskfisk/list/almost-every-title-from-worldscinemaorg/
letterboxd.com/smiskfisk/list/almost-every-title-from-rarelustcom/
letterboxd.com/smiskfisk/list/almost-every-title-from-myduckisdeadorg/
Check these.

Debby Does Dallas

not that user but thanks for these. really handy especially being able to filter by what i have watchlisted

is this kino?

I'm going in. Wish me luck my bois and gals.

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I forgot about this thread
Thanks!

bump

Yeah I meant ‘68. Gotta look for a good rip again soon because just from what I saw it seems great, if you guys know of one let me know. Has is an underrated master, his films are some of the esoterically dense of all time. I live my life based on The Tribulations of Balthazar Kober, there’s not one decision I make without Balthazars influence

God, I don't get the appeal of the Godzilla franchise after the first. Are they seriously worthwhile watches? Every clip I've seen looks so goofy

Besides all the memes Birth of a Nation still holds up. The only bad parts are some of the civil war battles and Lincoln’s assassination, where Griffith lets his worst exhibitionistic tendencies take precedent over the organic development of the picture. Also some of the scenes glorifying the KKK gave me second hand embarrassment, and really they just seem cheesy more so than the work of a calculating racist genius

...

I've seen Stalker and Buffalo 66'. I was not a huge fan of stalker. CAN I GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS PLEASE ?

Stop crossposting to retarded shit.

Recommendations of what? Give us more to go on

sneed

Entry level art house I guess. Some of my favorite movies include After Hours, Blue Velvet, Life Aquatic, Inside Llewyn davis, Drive, PDL, Paris Texas. I was thinking of watching the seventh seal or La dolce Vita.

>7th seal
nope, don't start with Bergman. But if you really want, at least start with some of his considered entry level stuff like Wild Strawberries or Summer with Monika.

anus films lol

Wreckmeister Harmonies or Eternity and a Day maaybe?

I’ll give you the highlights from the /mystic-core/ list, be warned though, if you watch these films you more than likely will become a mage. Don’t bear that burden lightly.
Robsinon Crusoe (1954)
Nazarin
The Milky Way (1969)
Ugetsu Monotagari
The Saragossa Manuscript
The Hourglass Sanatorium
Noose
I can’t think of anymore and this is honestly a pretty bad list in accordance with your preferences. I honestly can’t think of any more mystical films If I’m being honest. I guess if you want to watch the humanists that’s fine but their work always left a sour taste in my mouth.

I appreciate you taking the time to make me a list, even if it does indeed suck. Thank you

WATCH CHUNGKING EXPRRESS!!!!!!!!!!

watch some jarmusch, just don't start with limits of control.

To the guy who asked about My Best Fiend in one of these threads, it's free on Tubi.

xD

Those are mid level arthouse i would say. I think they are both great but if you are not used to that style of filmmaking you risk being bored. La Dolce Vita, Wild Strawberries, Summer with Monika, Virgin Spring, early Malick films. Since you like Paris Texas check out other films from Wenders. Alice in the Cities, Kings of the Road, The American Friend and Wings of Desire.

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Why wasn’t Kubrick ever cancelled? His 2nd feature is literally about a black wacky New York pimp trying to abduct and rape a white women

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What movie are you even talking about?

I don't really see how this is helpful. All three of those sites are effectively scam sites that just want you to buy their premium download services. I mean if you're downloading a 4.6 GB BluRay rip capped at 20kb/s, you could probably fly to the native country the film was released in and find a 35mm print in a film archive in that time. You could work a temp job and get enough money to import a legal copy in that time. It's fucking ridiculous.

Frank Silvera (the actor) is the killer in Killers Kiss. The whole movie basically plays out as a pre-cautionary tale warning white women not to date Jamaicans (Frank Silvera is Jamaican) because they become psychotically obsessed and try to kill you when you break up with them for the anglo underdog boxer hero. Now YouTube will let you rent this 70 year old movie that Kubrick tried to have destroyed because it is vilely racist for 2.99$. It’s just surprising no ones ever mentioned it is all, it’s literally about a wacky black New York trying to abduct and rape a white women, that is literally the plot.

black people have gamer moments too

Wait did he try to have this destroyed too or are you confusing the story with Fear and Desire? Fear and Desire, his terrible first film, he famously tried to have destroyed.

Bele Tarr boxset

These threads should be about old movies as well as arthouse. Instead of two generals for either that rarely hit bump limit just combine them into one. I use these threads to talk about old movies anyway

Yep. This guy is right

Anyone who replies to this seriously obviously hasnt seen the film

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I've seen it and I replied to it seriously.

can someone give me a starter chart pls

No, it was Fear and Desire, Killers Kiss, and a third film that Kubrick successfully had destroyed. You can only really just find tidbits about it in the Kubrick archives. Supposedly it was just supposed to be a simple story about a man going for a walk...

What I did was download Film as a subversive art (the book) and just watched whatever was on there, and then followed directors I liked etc

boxd.it/OnZM

>L'Eclisse
>entry level
No way

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It's at the same level complexity wise as Marienbad imo, which is entry level

I have yet to see Marienbad but i wouldn't call any of Antonioni's main films entry level. Maybe La Notte is entry level but i don't think his other films are that accessible. The structure of L'Eclisse is unusual and is more experimental than usual films, there are also long stretches for introspection. I think somebody who is just getting into these types of films shouldn't start with it.

>i wouldn't call any of Antonioni's main films entry level
If you can't parse Antonioni when starting out you have no business going deeper.

The main message of L'Eclisse can be summed up in 20 words and anyone can watch it and understand what's what
That imo is the definition of entry level

honestly i dont really care for the entry level part i just wanted a list of good art house films. im already into similar stuff in other art forms

Not really. Give me some mid level arthouse then.
Sure, lot of films have a simplistic main message, that doesn't make them entry level. I doubt that everybody can understand the point of inclusion of stock exchange scenes and some other scenes too.

kieslowski is both mid-level and accessible. don't watch Dekalog though, it's not for n00bs

45 minutes into On The Silver Globe. What am I watching

He is entry level. Antonioni is less accessible than Kieslowski.

nope, you're wrong

I find for instance Zanussi and Brakhage to be mid-level
High level would be someone like Greg Markopoulos

Why is Kieslowski mid level and Antonioni entry level then?

Acceptable answer

i said so

Kino, thats what your watching

Start with whatever the fuck you like first, its literally just a moving picture for 1 or 2 hours, there's no "difficulty" related to fucking staring at it. Faggots justifying their sunk cost will want to bloviate how they're kings for watching Lav Diaz 17 hour garbage dumpster fire is all.

cope brainlet

Has anybody here even seen this? i have only seen Landscape in the Mist and it was good. I will watch more of his films soon.

t. cognitive peasant

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Go to your Marvel thread

>muh entry level!
>muh mid level!
>no its not complex! entry level!
>yes it is! its like so midlevel!
lamo , please go on guys

birth of a nation

> if you don't like my shitty arthouse you like marvel
projection and cope rolled into one.
this.

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Why are you shitting with your mouth on this thread if you don't like it then?
i say kill yourslef

shut up nerd

because i reject the notion that only some marxoid photo reels can be called art

Ok user, your Ryan Gosling movies are art as well.
Satisfied?

leni riefenstahl box set

> your Ryan Gosling movies are art as well.
I've only watched Drive and it was dog shit.

based

Tell me when you finish it
It's my favorite movie of all time, I'd like to discuss

2001

On the silver globe
They'll get the rights from Mondo for $5 million and have like 20 hours of bonus material including interviews with Zulawski, essays, an art book etc
It will cost $300

Good film. Not the best one by Theo by any means but still good. Keitel is slightly miscast and the dialogue is extremely clunky. Great cinematography as always with Theo.

Not that user but the gap narrations with footage of Warsaw or whatever always bothered me. It would be far smoother and more immersive if it just cut to black while Zuławski narrated or cut to concept art or something, I don't want to see people taking an escalator to visit Łodz.

Either Fellini or Bergman literally complained that Antonioni was too inaccessible.

Way too many words. No one wants to read these memes with five paragraphs.

The Bergman complaint I've seen was that he thought he shot nice looking scene after nice looking scene without making them flow into each other.

They should release Tiefland.

I personally loved the cuts to Warsaw, but can see where you're coming from

What's the longest most detailed film. Like some 8 hour russian movie that feels like a novel. Does it exist?

War and Peace (1966), The Best of Youth, Satantango, Out 1, The Travelling Players, Ludwig, Berlin Alexanderplatz, Fanny and Alexander, The Human Condition, A Brighter Summer Day

War and Peace, Out One, Human Condition if you watch it all at once, Fanny and Alexander (TV version), that new La Fleur movie, most of Bela Tarr, and I have a special place in my heart for both Eros+Massacre (although it's not THAT long) and Love Exposure

>love exposure
I've heard of that a lot around TV, is it actually good or just a meme?

thanks friends

Around Yea Forums even, sorry, absent minded

Well as I said I personally like it(and the director), a bunch
I can see why it might not be for everyone, but generally if you post on Yea Forums and/or are a weeb you have a high chance of liking it
IMO it doesn't drag for its runtime at all, and it's pretty damn fun
Not that much of arthouse though

Why so much hate on Taxi Driver? It's not a 5 star but it's pretty good for a normie movie.

It's good, but also overrated
That's about it
Probably same league as Rolling Thunder in the incel cinematic universe

Who hates it? It's a fantastic look at how people can be corrupted when they're lonely and depressed enough. A lot of the things that cause him to go shoot up all those pimps mainly just come from what's in his head. You don't need to have terrible things to happen to you to become a crazy person, spending too much on your own and being unhappy with your surroundings can cause it too.

It's incredibly dishonest

go on

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I watched it and I found it mediocre. I could understand why people liked it more than tons of other movies but compared to other stuff normies don't know about it just is very mediocre.

why

I dunno. I just found nothing in there that really stood out. Neither on a cinematographic level nor what the characters did.

Travis taking a girl to a porn theatre on their first date didn't stand out to you?

No.

These generals are turning out to be indistinguishable from the letterboxd generals.

Recommend me some more anti-commie kinos.

Yea Forums is well known for being pedantic and contrarian. Add that to the fact this is a thread about films as a "higher art" and you can easily figure out why. Personally Taxi Driver is one of my favorite films.

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>Recommend me some more anti-commie kinos.
you cant be anti commie and kino

precode was the only time there was even a hint of anti-commie directors

Rejs
Merry Go Round
Clear Skies
Welcome, No Trespassing
Larks on a String
The Ear

Say that to most eastern european directors in the 60's and 70's

because '''film buffs''' have no personality and use movies to pretend to be intellectuals

inevitable. that's because "general" is a shit concept unfit for the chan format. it turns into a circlejerk and degrades no matter what.

Most of what has survived from that film culture argued zealously for liberalization, of which Communism is just a teleogically corrupted branch. It's essentially the rule that lead to the Communism in the first place. So it's hard to call them anti-Communist, rather than, 'conservative hedge' (..."had I known!)

I started a list a while back
boxd.it/2zTd4
Very immature yet, haven't seen as many movies as I'd like
It's slowly getting there

Very nice
Please add more to it, serious anti-commie movies are hard to find, it's a shame that only those artists that had to suffer can make them, instead of the "counterculture" in the US that mostly worshipped the USSR (contrary to their own belief system)

Communism isn't contra to "US belief system". Heck Jefferson altered Virginia declaration of independence (removed property) and declared that all men are equal.

Liberalism and Communism are the same secularized Christian Universalism making rounds.

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All men *are* equal, as in they should have the same rights, as in the right to privately own land with which to do as they please, and the right to own their own person and to do with what they please
That's enough rights for anyone, more than that is idiocy

Anybody here has watched Long Day´s Journey into night, the last feature by Gan Bi? Man, I´m desperate to watch it. I loved Kailii Blues with a passion, one of the best movies of the decade imho. A friend watched Long Day´s Journey and told me that it´s much worse than Kailii Blues. But I don´t give a fuck. I can´t wait. That 3D sequence is supposed to be amazing.

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Kaili Blues was indeed much better
Here he just rips off tark for 2 hours and that's it

I haven't seen Kaili so i can't compare it to it. I also saw torrented copy so it wasn't 3D but it's a good film. The long take was a bit gimmicky, not as gimmicky as when Cuaron or Inarritu use it but still a bit gimmicky.

> All men *are* equal
> They should have the same rights
> The right to own their own person and to do with what they please

Spoken like a Republican abolitionist radical c. 1850-1865 when they were busy agitating against Slaveholding States and ignoring the actual Constitution of the United States (they subverted it) to achieve political ends, mainly, ending the federalism.

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The 3D sequence was such a meme
You'll know when you see it
Still amazed it got such a wide release

Why do you keep using accent marks as apostrophes?

I'm not American but I'd probably subscribe to the libertarian ideology
The libertarian party, not so much

Not him, but that's a backtick

I merely placed your argumentation in a historical context, it's important to see their context and the actual particular political ends they achieved. Libertarian ideology hasn't been historically successful. Only time the NAP was being enforced realistically was when South ceded, and created a physical border between the two arguments, which could be defended with guns. Founding Fathers removed Articles of Confederation, as it actually was more close to the then-libertarian philosophy and was mostly unworkable with federal government entity they wanted to install upon 'newly independent US'. Libertarian Party, and honestly most of the actual philosophy is a losing position to hold. The slogan "dont tread on me" can't be taken seriously after all the stompings the snake has gotten. I

>"Thomas Jefferson even actually became involved himself in an anti-capitalist movement when he endorsed Frances Wright and Robert Owen's attempt to build a socialist society in New Harmony, Indiana. Owen and Wright were two utopian socialists who had immigrated from the British Isles to the US, and they both met with Thomas Jefferson separately to discuss their plans for a socialist society."

>"This little attendrissement, with the solitude of my walk, led me into a train of reflections on that unequal division of property which occasions the numberless instances of wretchedness which I had observed in this country and is to be observed all over Europe.

The property of this country is absolutely concentred in a very few hands, having revenues of from half a million of guineas a year downwards. These employ the flower of the country as servants, some of them having as many as 200 domestics, not laboring. They employ also a great number of manufacturers and tradesmen, and lastly the class of laboring husbandmen. But after all there comes the most numerous of all classes, that is, the poor who cannot find work. I asked myself what could be the reason so many should be permitted to beg who are willing to work, in a country where there is a very considerable proportion of uncultivated lands?"

Sadly true, but I remain an idealist for better or worse

In the worst scenario, I´m sure that, at least, the visual experimentation is guaranteed. I would prefer a more balanced style + sustance flow, but wathever, I don´t watch a single movie since the last may and I´m hungry! Thanks for the reply user.

Watch Kaili Blues user. It´s an amazing kino. In Kaili there´s a long one cut sequence that is a wonder. From what I hear, probably he wanted to rise the stakes of the technical challenge with Long Day´s.

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Typewriting bad habits. Sorry for that.

This is bad news.

greenaway box

Good to hear from you. It was an interesting read.

If he has no access to private trackers, it's better than nothing.

Surely there's nothing on there that can't be found on a public tracker? Those sites work by just torrenting stuff and then re-uploading it to try to trick people into paying.

>kieslowski is mid level while antonioni is entry level
lmao

(((Kubrick)))

It's literally an accent mark. Copy-paste it in google.

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I've only ever used worldcinema when I had no access to KG and I found some things there that weren't available anywhere else outside private trackers.
>Those sites work by just torrenting stuff and then re-uploading it
Yes and a lot of it comes from places like KG and isn't available anywhere else, especially because it's usually posted on the site right after it's uploaded to KG.

That's 70 hours for a download. Usually it's much less that. Is it that hard to leave your computer running for a day or two?

how do i find new directors to watch?

>that new La Fleur movie
Garbage.

The Emigrants and The New Land. If you watch them back to back it’s over 6 hours. The camerwork in these movies is like butter and they make you feel like you’ve cummed your pants. These films were also the inspiration for Barry Lyndon.

Go based off of your favorite period of film and country of origin and look for the list of directors of that time and place.

Are the subs out there for La Flor?
>Max Von Sydow
Yes, this will be kino for sure.

who are the people that get into private trackers?
because the image i have in my head are the kind of people that dont watch super niche movies

Any fans of Iranian director Rafi Pitts?

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Citizen Kane or 2001 (I hope it’s not citizen Kane, 2001 deserves to be spine 1000)

>Are the subs out there for La Flor?
Yes.

Recommend me erotic kinos.

Oshima

AssholeFever, FirstAnalQuest, some Tushy RAWs are fine, but some not.

Seen.
Erotic, not porn.

Where

The file on KG has hardcoded subs.

Thanks

Hey, im going into film school in a few months and im kind of insecure about the type of films I watch. What do you think are some essential films I should see now during the summer?

LB for context: letterboxd.com/rovhul/

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That’s because film buff is a cringe outdated term for Gen X’ers and old millennials. I would never identify as a film buff, I always say I’m a film freak

These: letterboxd.com/rovhul/list/high-priority-films-i-keep-putting-off-watching/

Its lacking a lot of stuff though and im not sure where I should start in terms of adding more arthouse stuff.

>three main moral viewpoints of cinema
Watch more films and read more books. 3 only LOLOL, can tell you are just watching the same modern trash all day.
>deeper meaning
>religious
All philosophical questions mankind has are by default religious? Whew, you are dumb as fuck.
>keeps on rambling about Christianity because if you dislike modern cinema surely you are a man of God
If you think art needs cocks/cunts/penetration to say anything about the eternal questions mankind has, you are no better than a lowly animal.

What books do you recommend

Don't focus on the obscure for now but just work on watching the works from the essential directors. Bergman, Godard, Tarkovsky, Fellini, Kurosawa, Bresson, Ozu, Antonioni etc

Sorry for the late reply, but hats off to you, Sir. Tarr IS a master indeed. Werckmeister Harmonies, man, now that's an actual proper modern film. Its in my top 3 of all time actually.

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Alright. Ill probably get on Bergman first as I have more of his films torrented already. The rest I will try and watch at least 3 of their films during the summer. Thanks.

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What's /art/'s opinion on Angelopoulos?He has one of the best camerawork in the history of cinema.
Werckmeister Harmonies is a great film indeed. The Turin Horse is also great. I never got the hype around Satantango but it's good.

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lbg punx go away

I've only seen 2 webms of his Films and I think he better than many other director.

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Still only those 2 webms? Are you still busy watching films that you don't like?

No I watched few I knew I'd like to balance things out.

For Japan go for Mizoguchi first. He’s basically Kurosawas teacher and his thematic aims are more transcendent and meditative than Ozu’s family dramas (even tho Ozu exceeds him on a technical level). Also remember The best director to come out of France is the Spanish born Luís Bunuel. Wojciech Has, Tarkovsky, Bunuel, Mizoguchi and Bergman is the /heart-core/ of /art/. Everyone else besides them you start dipping in the political and pseudo-humanistic styles of filmmaking.

I think Tarr made 3 masterpieces: Werckmeister/Satantango/Turin Horse and a minor masterpiece with Damnnation.

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That's an interesting approach.
Bresson and Rivette are better than Bunuel.

I think Werckmeister Harmonies and The Turin Horse are masterpieces. Satantango is quite good and Damnation doesn't really work for me.

>Hey, im going into film school in a few months
drop out now

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Tbtqhf Damnnation is secretly my favorite even though I recognize its not on the same level as the other films he made. You are missing out.

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Not him but Bresson sucks cock and I've never seen Rivette. Does he have a normal film I can start with?

>film school
Aiming to be a fluffer in the world of cinema?

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Bresson and Rivette are good but contrary to popular belief the French just don’t make great filmmakers, French films have the enthusiasm and imagination of a wet diaper. I would say the some about contemporary Italian work. It’s just so intellectually limited and none of them believe in the realization of fantasy like Bunuel. Bunuel lived and breathed in a fantasy realm.

I never understood going to film school without actually having any knowledge of film. Why would you go? Just to make normie films?

ughh Seventh Seal is better than what you consider entry level

It's you lmao

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Bresson was very technical and can be appreciated for his minimalism that he mastered, but not a fan myself either. Mainly because the man was a philosophical dilettante, he doesnt say much.
French are overrated I agree.

Fantasy is for children.

Same opinion here. But Buñuel is a beast, imho.

> says in a thread filled with pro-communist films

>Bunuel
That's "I just started film school" approved opinion. Cocteau was the true French surrealist master.

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Thats why im going, its a SCHOOL, where you are supposed to LEARN about film retard. Whats the point of going if im an overconfident fag that thinks they already know everything?

I really like Kurosawas work so I will definitely check him out, thanks. Im really excited to start with Wojciech Has work.

Communism is for the enlightened man

Yes but I wouldn't waste money on an art history degree if I've only looked at two paintings.

You truly have to be in some serious opiums for it that's true.

Fantasy and intuition is more *real* than discursive or rational reasoning. What someone ‘thinks’ is what somewhat ‘makes up’, thinking is always the stunted deformed brain child of the intuition of the lungs. With respect to intellectual thinking, it’s for the written word, film is about capturing the ultra-subjective image amassing the whole of the Truth, and only thinkers who think with their lungs can accomplish this.

Gnon takes care of folly like this, slowly but surely.

>wants to go to film school
>so invested into cinema that he has never taken the time to study up on it on his own
does not compute

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Yes lots of plebs love Bunuel but they don’t really understand him. Bunuel is the epitome of mirthful Christian irony. ‘Surrealism’ is most of the time not very deep

You need to go.
All cinema is fantasy.
Think about it.

1. I live in Europe so the degree costs almost nothing

2. I think ive seen a few decent films but I am very well aware of what I havent seen and I want to expand my knowledge of films in general. I want to be able to make something great and make something of myself and I want to do that by following something I really love.

Better than spending the rest of my days with you guys. At least ill try and if I fail, ill come crawling back to the tards here.

omg so deep

Spending your days here will get you 1000 times more knowledge on film than any school.

I already know in my heart I’m going to die a death like St. Peter, so I’m prepared. Seriously, I had a very deep realization in my heart that I was going to die a death like St. Peter one night, and then the next day my brother told me he had a dream where I was being ritualistically tortured and killed. That’s a true story, so I’m ready for this.

I don't think that his style was suited for that story, it just feels very empty compared to his other films. I will give it a rewatch later. Maybe i will change my opinion.
I don't think that fantasy makes one director better than the other. Rivette also has some surrealistic/fantastical elements in his work.
Yes, he has.

Bunuel was obviously atheist and every one of his films are him trying to make that very clear with the subtlety of a "insert something funny"
Not a fan, Cocteau all day, that man had surpassed materialism too.

This. I never went to film school, i only went to Yea Forums and look at how well i turned out.

If you guys watch movies on anything but a projector you aren't actually watching the movie and shouldn't checkmark it.

I watch movies on my phone. Mostly on split screen, the upper part is for the movie and the lower part is for updating my bros on Yea Forums about my watching experience. I think this is the best way to watch a film.

Most of Yea Forums is garbage (with a few exceptions like this thread). I like browsing here daily and getting a few good recs here or there but most of the board is just a bunch of pseud-contrarians.

Im not saying you're wrong, id just like to get some hands on experience with film and make something that you fags might argue about someday.

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Ok, fine, I’ll check out Cockdoo, probably what I’m gonna watch next. But you have to admit, when Bunuel ‘inserts something funny’ it usually is kind of funny
I wouldn’t say it’s about having fantastical individual elements, more about the complete aim of the picture. A work of art is a living organism, it has to be purely synthesized, most of the time directors dilute and kill any organic spontaneous potentiality with too much intellectual thought.

I disagree but i still think that what you are describing is something that Rivette did better than Bunuel, especially in Celine and Julie Go Boating.

It's nice to see these threads stay up between the never-ending shitposting sludge.

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Seeing any thread that isn't related to capeshit, Star Wars, or /pol/ is always a refreshing sight.

Is there another website where people discuss like this?

Reddit

I've been on all the film subreddits and I haven't seen any go past Tarkovsky.

true film/criterion sometimes have some discussions about other directors but it's rare. Imdb boards were good before they got axed.

>Tarkdrone complaining about shitposting

Not him but whats wrong with tark

Entry level. A bit overrated

Entry level doesn't mean bad. I wouldn't even call him overrated, he deserves all the praise that he gets.

>Bresson sucks cock
You suck cock, faggot.

probably just chat with their real life friends.
tfw you'll never have smart friends that will breakdown arthouse movies that you cant understand

Not really. Andrei Rublev is the best film of all time but the rest of his work doesn't really hold up. They are good but they aren't amazing.

Tark should really be thought of as our proverbial long dead grandmaster or arch-mage (besides Jesus Christ of course) of this fraternity and Sculpting in Time should be thought of as our bible philosophically speaking. Yes maybe it is somewhat midwit but no one has offered a better and more comprehensive philosophical approach

This thread is also garbage.

Mirror, Nostalghia, Offret and Stalker are all great.

Based
Cringe

I'll let you have great but they still aren't amazing. They aren't close to Andrei Rublev tier.

Unironically Discord if you join a server that isn't filled with plebs.

Both me.

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>Unironically Discord if you join a server that isn't filled with plebs.
Can you give a hint where I can these

Criterion announced the October release but didn't announced #1000.
You just know it's gonna be the Godzilla boxset.

Mirror is Andrei Rublev tier, imo.

>Unironically Discord if you join a server that isn't filled with plebs
Cringe
>Both me.
Based

These are the releases by the way. Thoughts?
Häxan (Upgrade)
3 Silent Classics by Josef von Sternberg: Underworld, The Last Command, The Docks of New York (Upgrade)
When We Were Kings
Matewan

>reddit
They are IMDB Top 250 plus babby's first film makers tier at best. There doesnt exist any good arthouse cinema discussion online. Maybe the Criterion forums after Mubi died.

Kaili blues first hal is good, second half is warp>stabilize the movie

The Noe fanboys seem to be relatively low on here. Any place that respects guys such as Tarr knows what's up.

>rapid eye movies
Kino

he's making a tv series currently though

Seen.

Kaili Blues is a masterpiece. Buddhist cinema at its very best. Noticed how the film was only blissful, harmonious and positive during that super long single take when the protagonist left his shitty hometown? Yeah, Buddhist philosophy right there: the present moment is all that exists and the only "place" where true happiness lies.

I like both Tarr and Noé.

What tv series?
I can't find it now but someone claimed that he wants to do a bigger budget projects but can't get funds. There were even 2 plot descriptions. One was something about ancient Greeks or Romans and second one was something with WW2 i think.

What's some other Buddhist kino?

There was a Straub thread last time i was there.

VIIIchan

The film board is dead.

Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East?: A Zen Fable is THE Buddhist masterpiece and one of the finest films of all time. Made independently with incredible cinematography and endless Buddhist symbolism. This film will be nothing but a mystery if you havent studied Buddhism though.
Also, Mandara by Im Kwon-Taek.

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hollywoodreporter.com/news/loveless-director-andrey-zvyagintsev-teams-paramount-first-tv-series-1089762

seems like it's very early in development though

Dr zhivago

Anything else? I thought everyone knew those already.
Also, desperately want to see The People in White.

Kek what an embarrassing opinion. Yea Forums knows literally nothing about film. Even this thread, which is better than 99% of this boards content, is still garbage. Bunch of morons attempting to summarize and dismiss prolific artists careers in a few sentence. There’s very little merit to anything anyone is saying in here, just flowery language and vague adjectives to seem like intellectuals. Even the ones who do know what they’re talking about aren’t posting the extent of their knowledge, and are engaging with low-iq dilatentes posturing as cinefiles. If you’re at a good film school you will absolutely learn more than you would in this shithole, because film school forces you to make films. You can’t get good at making films by watching them, you get good by making them. It’s not anywhere near as simple as “I understand Bunuel and what made his films good, so I can now make a good movie”. Like saying you can be a good painter by looking at paintings or a good musician by listening to music. And to anyone who thinks otherwise, I urge you to go out and try to make a movie.

based

This is some major cope.

You have two people one who watched 2000 art films and someone who watched adam sandler films but went to film school. Who do you think is gonna make the better film when you hand them a camera?

Who /vulgar auteurist/ here?

screendaily.com/news/andrey-zvyagintsev-updates-on-his-first-tv-project/5127429.article
>Finally Zvyagintsev pointed out the TV series might not be his next project.
>“My usual work takes a lot of preparation and immersion in the details before embarking on the execution,” he explained. ” This will be more even more demanding. It will require an enormous amount of work as you are not making one hour 40 minutes movie, you are making five, six, seven of them in a row.
>“I don’t exclude the possibility that while I am conceiving the TV project I could make another movie. It all depends who of those babies will pop out first!”
Seems like he might do a film before the show.

>engaging with low-iq dilatentes posturing as cinefiles. If you’re at a good film school you will absolutely learn more

Nah you’ll just be up to your neck in pretentious twats like yourself pretending they like things they don’t for status.

Ralph Sepe goes to film school. I still bet that some people on here could make a more competent film and know more about film than him without ever putting their foot inside the film school building.

>Ralph Sepe goes to film school
That's actually embarrassing.

-shorts by Te Wei
-Sonagi by Young Nam
-Monday by Sabu
Not much really Buddhist elseI can think off, lots of fake wannabees sure, but those that truly grasped Buddhism? Rare.

how can i get short films get noticed?
i really think about making something but the thought of nobody seeing it bumms me out hard.
does anyone know where short films can be published, is vimeo an option?

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No you’re just seething and wetting your diaper because you don’t understand theory and you don’t have the capacity for true individual thought (which requires the formulae of the submission to the ultra-subjective ideal of truth, ‘fantasy’ > ‘reality’) so when you see others engaging in it, it makes you upset.

You either have talent or you dont. Dozens of brilliant film makers never went to film school. Just like dozens of famous painters never went to paintschool. KEK. Making art can not be taught.

>paintschool

Yes it is.

120 Days of Sodom

This Transient Life is kino and it focuses on the main character dealing with Buddhist ideas. If you're more into the philosophy of Buddhism it will be an interesting watch to say the least.

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Just post it on Youtube and promote it a bit. Its what I did but the views shouldnt matter. What should matter is that you enjoy making the film.

the best film school is a combination of being a PA or whatever low level job you can get on a production plus working through the history of film in your spare time. there's nothing in film school you can't learn just as easily and a helluva lot cheaper outside of film school. the only perk might be in networking, though most major cities that have any film culture will have organizations of filmmakers you can join that serve the same purpose.

Upload it on Vimeo and shill it on Letterboxd. Worked for a lot of people there.

The Adam Sandler fan will know how to use the camera, know how to operate on a set, know how to edit, understand sound design, and hopefully any other principle element of filmmaking. The art house fan will most likely make garbage. Even if it’s somehow well written (assuming that this is also the first film they’ve ever written) it’s likely to be technically incompetent and run into many issues pre, post, and during production. The Adam Sandler fan will be able to execute his vision, the Art house fag will not.
If you think the point of film school is simply “understand why certain movies are good” then you’re an imbecile. The point is to learn how to make a good film, and even more importantly how to make the films you want to make.
It’s also really telling that you have to come up with such an extreme scenario to get your point across. A film student can also have watched 1000 great movies, and many have. You’re not gonna find Adam Sandler diehards there.

>Akio Jissôji
>Buddhist
He is about as much Buddhist as Trump. Fucker was anything but Buddhist. A Buddhist would never, I repeat, never ever, exploit sex in in a Buddhist film. Buddhism is about surpassing the animal within, sex keeps us there.

And dozens of brilliant filmmakers did? The point isn’t that film school is necessary for everyone, but for some people who are actually gonna use their time in school well, it’s extremely valuable.

8ch /film/

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Where did I say the director was Buddhist, angry anonymous person? It's a film that has Buddhism as a main topic.

The films of Tinto Brass.

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Friendly reminder that none of these people have made a film in their life, and the few that may have tried have failed miserably. But they think they’re better artists because they’re able to sit in front a screen and watch something for s few hours and then write a few sentences of vague nonsense about it on Letterboxd.
If you disagree you can prove me wrong by posting one of your films.

>has Buddhism as its main topic
>is anything but Buddhist
See what you did there?

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I could not tell from that you wanted films exclusively made by Buddhists.

Context, bro. When it erupted, the surrealist movement was making waves. At first, it was considered subversive and creatively degenerate. It was an inevitable reaction to the horrors of the I World War. Buñuel is the best surrealist imho because he had a peculiar sense of humour, raw and agressive as fuck, that has nothing to do with the true french surrealism (that I love, by the way). Cocteau is based as fuck, as other user has said, but my favourite frog is Roland Topor, the last surrealist.

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isn't

I meant

Films that express the Buddhist truth is all. You can make an action film with hardcore sex scenes using Buddhist monks but that doesnt make the film about Buddhist.

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This is a thread about discussing films, not making films you faggot. You don't have to make be expert in making something in order to critique other works.
>But they think they’re better artists because they’re able to sit in front a screen and watch something for s few hours and then write a few sentences of vague nonsense about it on Letterboxd.
Where did somebody even say that he is a better artist? Also you can learn the basic principles of filmmaking by reading literature about film and then trying it out. There are tons of sources on how to do cinematography, sound design etc.

That's a very prescriptive approach. Anyway, you should've been more precise with your request.