Zoomers pine for the halcyon days of analog media

>zoomers pine for the halcyon days of analog media
>zoomers

Zoomers probably get nostalgic for when Netflix DVDs came in the mail...

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>But it drove the prices down
No you goof ball.
The price point was because it was a new tech without a lot of infrastructure or a large market.
Early adopters are always going to pay a premium.

Not VHS or analog, but SNES and Genesis games were crazy expensive. A basic game that you could likely beat in two days was $69.99 in 1993 dollars.

I mean I do too and im 28. I got my first gf in college because of that

>Start getting House seasons DVDs sent to my dorm
>Cute chick I liked happened to be passing my room one day when I was watching (We usually kept our doors open on my floor)
>Comes in and starts chatting
>Notices the DVD packet laying on my TV stand
>"OMG next time invite me"
>Invite her, end up fucking while Dr. House cynically saved the life of some soccer mom
>Repeat 4 times will we started dating

Games have been like $60 average from the very start, disregarding inflation entirely. Atari 2600 games were expensive as fuck all things considered these days.

Nah zoomers think 90’s shit is awesome just like millennials thought the 80’s were the greatest decade

Interesting graph, thanks nerd

Remember into the mid-2000s how those technical schools would advertise becoming a VCR Repair Tech?
One yike, please.

No. It was because of wide spread piracy. They went from being over $100 to 25 bucks because people weren’t buying them. As mentioned, my parents would just use two VHS and record the movies they wanted from the video store

Let me guess...you're one of those horrible '90s millennials who's trying to pass themselves off as a Zoomer by backdating their inception to 1995 or earlier, aren't you?

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Why would anyone want to be a zoomer

I was bornded in 85

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You got it earlier and I believe you were paying for a license to rent it. I remember back in the day you could buy the ~$100 copies from Suncoast.

This kills the kike.
Honestly who gives a fuck, you buy it you own it, and as long as you don't tell anyone that you copy tapes and you keep them for yourself what are they going to do about it?

My cock swings left and right
Boogie to my hoodie let that bitch hang tight
Fuck sock and knock em
Woodie out till I rock em
Stiffy penola
Cum pinsecola
RARARARA RAOW
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I PAID THE WALLS WITH MY TEETH
MONEY BOLOGNA EATS MY FEET
GHOST IN THE SHELL?
50.99¥ PLEASE

I payed 250 dollars for Evangelion.

Also what the shit catalogue is that? That F91 and Mellowlink simply had to be bootlegs.

In the late 70s/early 80s VHS tapes were expensive because of being new tech. In the late 80s lower quality tapes were produced for the consumer market and sold for around $20 at places like Target.
There were also a much higher quality of tapes available that didn't degrade nearly as much with repeated viewing. These are what video rental shops purchased, but they were also available to the public at places like Suncoast and Waldenbooks. These usually cost around $100 retail, but were more expensive for video rental places because of licensing and royalties.

The More You Know™

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>$52,000 for Astro Boy
>in 1990s dollars

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>Cute chick I liked happened to be passing my room one day when I was watching (We usually kept our doors open on my floor)

Kek a lot of awkward freshman year relationships start this way, people who've either never had a gf or bf or have only ever had one hs sweetheart just leave the doors open the first few months and hope someone comes in. My roommate would leave the door open and play Just Dance, eventually a nerdy girl came in one afternoon while I was at class, played with him for about 20 minutes before saying it was hot and to close the door and turn the a.c. on, then within a few minutes took off her shirt and bra while playing and then blew him during his turn. It was the first time she'd done anything sexual, they dated for maybe 2 months before he decided they had almost nothing in common and could barely hold a decent conversation together. I don't think they had sex either.

The best was 1996-1999 pre-Netflix when you could buy VHS online for $5 a pop, I got Gummo, Showgirls and kungfu that no one else had. Felt like a high school don of kino.

Everything in red the government is involved in.

>Astro Boy Collection (47 Discs) $2200.00

Also, when the first $5 discount movie bins started showing up in supermarkets and convenience stores, the movies were often recorded in EP mode to save a few cents on tape as well as using lower quality materials for the packaging.

t. MFW opening one of these things to find a half-inch thick spool of tape for a 2+ hour movie.

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Always rented movies and copied them with our dual vhs player.
Stopped buying games when I got a modchip for my playstation, ended up renting 60+ dollar games at blockbuster because it was faster than downloading at horrible speeds if warez sites even had it.

>tfw rent blockbuster movies and copy them onto blank tapes and sell for 10 bucks each or trade for porn.

Damn I miss being 13. Any other oldfags browse this shithole or just me

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>the government isn't involved in the car, cellphone service, and software industries

Did the FBI ever arrest anyone for making illegal VHS copies being sold for profit?

Most of the red are federally subsidized. Most of the blue are made in China.

Getting fansubs back then was fucking great though. There were so many shows that were passed around years before they ever got official releases.

>you had to

You could have just not bought it.

I remember the house I lived in when we got a top-loading VCR. Moved out of there in '83.

Which are you?

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They were expensive because they generally only sold them to rental stores. Other than Star Trek and I Love Lucy sets you could buy from TV commercials, VHS weren't really marketed to end consumers. First low price VHS I remember was Tim Burton Batman.

yes

I'm the fuck you and your Wojak memes

I remember a grade school class trip to the PBS station maybe around '81. All of their shows were on Betamax, which was better quality than VHS. My dad had a Beta VCR. The Beta selection at the pre-Blockbuster rental place sucked. Should have kept the copy of Empire Strikes Back from there. They went under anyway.

>grade school in 1981
You're a turbo oldfag

All the fucking time in the 80s, and 90s. Mostly people trying to sell them on a blanket on the street.

Top Gun was probably the first cheap VHS . I can remember everyone owning that movie.

Yeah, but not until '89.

Rental tapes stayed expensive (for rental stores) who made the money back pretty easily. If you lost or wrecked a tape, you were expected to pay 80 bucks or something.
There was also a watershed where you couldn't buy the consumer retail copy until it had been in the rental shop for a few weeks.

What's your mom's name? I might be your real dad.

>$89.99 in the mid 80s

Imagine how much that would be today if you factored in inflation.
Disney Movies like DUMBO, and Pinocchio were sold for $200 to $400 per copy.

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Not every movie dropped to $20, but after Batman, a lot of others started to debut at end-consumer low price. I worked in a rental store in '93.

ITT: People pretending they don't know about rental house prices.

I remember pogs. I also remember my dad taping one over the power button to the family computer, because I liked pressing it when no one was around.

I remember buying the Unrated Criterion Robocop laserdisc for like $80 when it came out. Found the Blu-ray at Dollar Tree for $1 a couple months back. I said "I'd buy that for a dollar!" to the zoomey at the register. He didn't get it.

It would still cost just as much if you ordered it from a catalog in the 80s if you wanted to own a copy.

It wasn't until the 90s that they started to go down to $29.99. Disney movies were always more expensive tho.

youtube.com/watch?v=N-s1qf5aMP8

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Leave Deaton Chris Anthony out of this.
youtu.be/q9K6-M9gUjY

>I said "I'd buy that for a dollar!" to the zoomey at the register.
Did you also write this post?

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Post pics of her feet so I know you're not lying

>Zoomers in their teens-early 20s who grew up on Bieber and Web 2.0 and don't remember any movies older than Harry Potter can now walk and talk and are the vast majority of Yea Forums and the current internet

What do you think of this?

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>Late 80's VHS tech was still brand new
You didn't have a VHS player by 1984? Were you a poor?

>s. baldric

It's what happens. OG Ghostbusters is as old now as some of the "ancient" john wayne movies I saw as a kid. Shit like the spiderman/empire strikes back moment in avengers civil war is legit.
Protip: in half a year, people who were born when the first lord of the rings movie came out will be able to post here. Time marches on.

I got two BETA early 80s porn tapes from the Goodwill and the original price for them was $70 each

I remember in the 90s Suncoast use to wrap all their anime dvds in anti theft devices because they were so expensive. It looked like someone placed an anti tank mine on the dvd case from how huge it was.

I paid close to $30 for the first dvd of Serial Experiments Lain. That's almost $50 adjusted to inflation. Each dvd was like three 20 minute episodes.

Fuck nostalgia for the 90s.

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Don't remind me...
All the money I spent on Evangelion VHS...it was 1996...

The cost ended up getting us quality animes made, like LAIN, produced by real artists. Now we get streaming bullshit made on computers like RWBY

Subtitled animu videos and dvds were marked up on purpose. Despite actually being cheaper to produce, official subs had a lot of its money go to Japan for VA royalties. Music royalties were steep for a while too so a lot of dub studios would shit together some third-rate beep-boop soundtrack like DBZ got.
Dub dvds were cheaper because the studio got to spread money around and get something resembling an actual profit margin. It wasn't until the boom 15 years ago that bilingual dvds became widespread and affordable with the volume being sold.

How would I know? I was born in '91.

the plural of anime is anime
and rwby isn't an anime. an anime is just a japanese cartoon

It's okay to have nostalgia for the 90's, most people weren't degenerate gook lovers, back then, so of course they're gonna be more expensive.

core millennial

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>When you grew up with the end of vsh's but can now rent them at a trendy city rental store .

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>most people weren't degenerate gook lovers, back then
Posted like a true 10s boy.

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They were priced for the rental market. Consumers weren't supposed to buy them at retail.

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>Protip: in half a year, people who were born when the first lord of the rings movie came out will be able to post here. Time marches on.

Lmfao I've never even seen LOTR
The first Hobbit was cool though

Good bait, but you can't cast it this far into a thread. Gotta get it in the first 30 posts or so.

As much as I want to make fun of the people who would shop there and call them faggots and söyboys, it also looks fucking rad as hell.

>ask women if they're faving fun tonight
>the will interpret this as "are you drunk yet?"

so. fucking. easy.

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fuck you, silly children

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Your graph just says OP is 100% correct. You're a fucking retard.

Everybody pirated games and anime back then, people would meet up and copy vhs and floppys and spread it around. Only Ninten-cucks actually paid for games

Sip, yup those were the days

If you enjoy old box art like my autistic ass, it's pretty great.

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>faking being a zoomer

kek we had a pentium 4 that had this big grey button next to the power on button that nobody knew what it was for but we didnt dare press it just incase

Yeah, you're right. I really haven't seen any of The Lord of the Rings movies though.

>thinking anyone would want to lump themselves with that cancerous generation

nothing dumber than smug anime posters

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born in 91, am i zoomer?, all the memepics say something different

Nobody aside from /g/ weidros is nostalgic for outdated technology. People are nostalgic for the movies, games, anime etc. themselves and that they're better than contemporary media.

LMFAO at the retards in this thread thinking VHS movies were $90. Most were $15-$20, with the occasional new release being like $24.95.

i was born in early '83 so have some good memories of both late gen x and early millenial

Late gen-X. And yes, I drank Jolt cola as a kid. Dammit...

I still have vsh tapes with 39.99$ stickers dum dum

>for a two episode vhs
>the catalogue clearly states LASERDISC

Then you got ripped off, dum dum.

It's from my parents...

That was in the 90s you egotistical shithead. In the 70s and 80s they were much more expensive.

No, just a faggot.

The single most expensive media I ever bought in my life was Mortal Kombat Trilogy for the N64 in January 1997. It was $79.99 + tax.

No, they weren't. I've been buying VHS tapes since the early '80s. Perhaps when they FIRST came out.

>Late 80's VHS tech was still brand new,
It was brand new in the late 70s.

VHS (not tapes) was invented in the 70s, but had barely any market penetration. The 80s were when most families became exposed to it.

My uncle had a top loading VCR in '78 (with tapes).

Thank you for your irrelevant anecdote.

okay so what idiotic point are you driving at here?
you want college textbooks in chinese? you want to fly to china for college? you want hospital and medical care services provided by china? you want china to provide your child care and food?
or do you just think "DA GUBMINT FUCKIN US" is all you need to say to appear intelligent?

Is porn on vsh cheap? Asking for myself to masturbate too.

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Your uncle was a pervert.

>(with tapes)
He meant magnetic tape storage had been a video medium before VHS, you sub-human. There's no such thing as "not tapes" VHS.

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Being a Jewish kid must have sucked, having to buy VHS tapes from your parents like that.

I just bought a VHS tape yesterday.

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Wow. Someone who knows what they're talking about. Yeah. Those $80 prices were for rental stores. Unless you got some rare as shit collecror edition for like $40 or $50, maybe with an extras tape, it never went that high. That or it was jn fake Canada money.

Well, at least it is something interesting. But I hope you don't make a habit of it. That film is readily available in digital form in quality far beyond the VHS and much truer to the original theatrical version. Superior to it in some respects.

The only reason to have something like is as a small novelty or to educate yourself about history. There is little to be gained by actually watching VHS and LARPing as if you were back in the 80s or 90s watching these things. Live in your own era.

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Transformers and Pogs. Never drank those shitty sodas.

No shit? Did you not notice that was in the ad the person you were replying to posted?

Faggots like you who feel the need to jump to "correct" posts that already mentioned the thing ruin these threads.

It was as cheap as renti g it. Plus Hammer horror works on vhs too. Oh and I am building a retro room in the basement with an old crt , next to the den with the fire place and new HD tv.

If you paid more than a dollar for that VHS you were ripped off.
>Hammer horror works on vhs too
It does not. The film in question is a 35mm 2.35:1 color production. Viewing it in letterboxed VHS is simply an insult to it. You are taking a source material that would resolve to around 2-4k (Hammer productions not being especially sharp) and reducing it to absurd postage stamp sized viewing quality. Color and sound reproduction are also colossal compromises. The experience is not the same at all. When you view it on VHS you are viewing it through a very strong lens that will color the experience. In SOME cases this can improve very low budget productions with terrible special effects, but for this film in particular I highly disagree.

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*272i

VHS is an interlaced format. p is a force of habit.

early millenial, i remember toys and things from core gen x and late gen x, but pogs and stuff was my jam. born 87. also i did collect pokemon cards and had red and gold on gameboy color, but i was probably too old for it. my step brother was nearly 2 years younger though and we always did stuff together.

>tfw core millenial but gen x is more familiar from being raised strictly religious & homeschooled and older siblings w/their sneaky contraband were closest thing to peers

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I used to buy jap VHS in the 80s and it was a nightmare
Including exchange rates a typical single VHS was $150USD. That's in mid-late 80s dollars. Probably $300 now

Good thread

>Late 80's VHS tech was still brand new
nigga you serious

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I was 13 back in 1995. I don't miss having to copy VHS tapes of one-off movies or shows only for me to not realize I put the blank tape in the wrong VCR and nothing got recorded. I'm forever grateful that everything I never thought I'd see again because my local Blockbuster got rid of their unpopular tapes is now all on YouTube.

Born 1982. Literally between Late Gen X, Early Millennial.

I can't imagine a world where I can't pirate 99% of everything I want. Sounds awful.

You could, most posters here are morons. It was just done by mail order most of the time.

How did mail order piracy work? Was there a network of bootleggers mailing shit to each other? For free?

>Fuck nostalgia for the 90s.
Nostalgia for the 90's as a concept is fine. It's nostalgia for the worse, shitty bits from the 90's which is bullshit.

I do not miss the low quality, better record it on TV now otherwise who knows when it'll be on TV again oh shit channel 36 is playing it at 3am damn I gotta program the VCR now, and it's still the edited-for-tv version despite it being on late at night era of media. I also don't miss the fact that a $29.99 VHS tape in 1989 basically costs three times as much as a bluray movie in 2019.

I am so glad I live in the "everything that has ever been put to VHS/laserdisc/Beta/DVD/bluray can be found on YouTube or as a torrent" era. Zoomers can have their "nostalgia" for those "good ol' days".

I don't blame the store owners for making the VHS store; they're only profiting from idiot Zoomers. I got a ton of useless VHS tapes; if I can make $10k by selling them all to some dumbass kid, I'll fuckin' do it.

back then piracy was a little different.
you would order bootlegs at a significantly reduced cost compared to a legal alternative.
I never did that and im just kind of guessing here, but did purchase some bootleg dvds from a nigger at a fleamarket, must have been back in 2003 because one was school of rock and the other was that god awful house of the dead movie.

The house of the dead movie was so bad and shittily edited I thought the nigger had done something to it, that's uwe boll for you.

I would not call VHS "brand new" in the late 80s but it was still not a common household object. VHS did not reach market saturation until the early 90s.

everything important in life becomes unaffordable but don't worry goy the digital entertainment is cheap as fuck

Most times just could pay someone for a blank VHS tape or mail them one and they would copy you what you wanted and then mail it back. In the 90's people had websites listing all the tapes they had available, and you could email them what you wanted duplicated.

>How did mail order piracy work?
Various avenues. A few scenarios

>Ad in the back of a magazine claims to sell ANY movie or television show you want to LOW LOW PRICES. Sometimes fixed price. You call them up and talk a bit, send a check or money order to the address along with your order, you get tapes in the mail weeks later.

>You meet a guy at a convention. You get to talking and he says he has EVERY episode of that TV show you love on tape and if you just give him a call he'll copy the episodes you want for you for a nominal fee (again through money order) and send the tapes through the mail.

>You are on the early internet. BBS systems, usenet, e-mail lists, or the web. Users make lists of what they have and freely share them among one another minus postage fees. Or in some cases friendly users send you 100% free shit because that's how cool fan groups could be back then.

damn, piracy always finds a way.

>In the 70s and 80s they were much more expensive.
Here's a price guide for Disney movies in 1985. This is Disney's own prices, not the prices you could get if you went to a Price Club or something and got some good discounts on them. So who knows if they were the same or less. If anything, this is the MOST you could expect to pay for a VHS movie in 1985.

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>$85 for a copy of Dumbo
Absolutely Hebrew

The boy Gabriel Bateman is insanely handsome.

I never mail order pirated anything, but anybody with two (2) VHS recorders could dub a rental and then then boom, you have a copy for yourself less the cost of a tape and a rental. My parents had a rad collection of VHS tapes in that era.

>in the late 80s but it was still not a common household object
I can't tell if you're being a idiot for the laughs or you legitimately believe this. If the latter; what is your source?

I grew up in the mid and late 80's. EVERYONE had a VCR. My family was dirt poor and we couldn't even afford an NES, and even WE had a VCR and VHS tapes. It was super common.

> market saturation
Even if it maxed out in the early 90's, it doesn't mean a plurality of people had VHS' back at least the mid-80s. Nearly half (47%) of friggin' AUSTRALIA owned at least one VCR by 1986 (see pic related).

So, no, it was definitely common by the mid-80's. Again, just because it didn't reach "market saturation" until the 90's, that doesn't mean it wasn't "a common household object" until then either.

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>wages have become more expensive
what exactly was meant by this?

More data on VHS; in this case this shows VHS rentals and purchases. There was already nearly 1 billion VHS rentals by 1983, and that doubled in 1985, only to double again in 1987.

You don't get to 4 billion rentals in one year if the format isn't "common".

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I don't give a shit about your anecdotes. These threads always full of these idiot stories like they mean anything.

Your graph is more useful but I question the sample group. It says "metropolitan households". What is that supposed to mean? I want "households" period. Not just middle and upper class families living in metropolitan areas.

Finally, VCR != VHS, and this particular sub-discussion is focused on VHS. VCR in that graph's context probably includes all tape formats.

>tfw i bought the entire next gen series on vhs from the newsagent and it was like 50 vhs tapes

>source: screen digest
No one was actually keeping track of the number of rentals in the 80s. There was no good way of doing it. These are fluff numbers reported by the industry as a way to shill their product, and magazines and later websites have always accepted them because it is also in their interest.

This is like ID software claiming 24 million people played Doom in the first year of launch. Source: their ass.

Those are a lot more expensive than $15-20

No. I see you haven't seen Robocop either. You have to be 18 to post here.

who the fuck cares about anime?

>I don't give a shit about your anecdotes.
Be that as it may, you still haven't provided anything supporting your claim that it wasn't a common household object until after the late 80's.

Here, check out the source for yourself:
* screenaustralia.gov.au/fact-finders/video-and-online/audiences/in-the-archive/vcr-and-dvd-player-penetration
> Source: 1984–93: Roy Morgan Research Centre Omnibus data. 1994–2000: ACNielsen TV Trends (five-city metropolitan average). From 2001: OzTAM.

Now if you have counter data, I'm all ears.

> Finally, VCR != VHS
> all tape formats
Like what, Beta? VHS had like a 90%-ish share by 1986. Even by 1982 Beta was only 25% of home video sales, and by 1987 Beta was dead. What other formats are out there that could be considered "VCR" to skew the numbers? Again, until you provide counter data, there is no reason to believe "VCR" means anything other than "a video cassette recorder of the VHS format".

...

Let me see about providing more verifiable data. That said, if you have alternate verifiable data, feel free to share it. One sec.

You see the thing is I don't actually care enough to go any further with this. I could have just replied with a single
>autism
but 1 point for effort gets an actual reply

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OK here, let's try this one:
* firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/rt/printerFriendly/854/763

VCR prices dropped and number of units increased which reflect a growth in consumer purchase, all by 1986. Furthermore, blank tapes slightly plateaued in 1986, showing it reached a level of saturation.

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> You see the thing is I don't actually care enough to go any further with this.
You obviously cared enough to make the claim to begin with and reply to other posts about it, as well as claim that anecdotes are irrelevant. So, you clearly wanted some facts, and so you got some facts. Hopefully you know better now.

These were rental VCRs that video stores had in the mid to late 80s. As the technology became more available we bought one for free.

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Yep, they sure are. But that said, that only reflects one source... that may just be something everyone back then knew to be overpriced. So if anything, that's probably the most people could expect to pay for a VHS movie.

Much of the sales figures in that document are coming from stores, not independent researchers tracking data. Stores are going to inflate their numbers because it looks better for their business. You can't take that data very seriously.

What you really want to look at are the prices, which easily documented and tracked. When the price gets within striking range of whatever you conditions you believe to be attainable to even low-income individuals that's when enough high dollar sales have been made that the market has been forced to expand.

Tech historians tend to disregard the carny nature of sales figures because it displeases them but it is necessary to do so if you want to know the reality. Or at least what we can know of it, and accepting what we can't.

We might not have healthcare, cheap education, medical services, wages, food, or even housing, but by god do we have cheap kino.

I'm kinda surprised how the laserdisc versions are actually cheaper even if the selection is limited. Laserdiscs were such a rare thing to see back then, as few stores carried them and virtually no one owned a player .

>tfw this is gonna be me in 50 years

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holy shit that brings me back
binging the entirety of transformers beast wars because the good shit was always out of stock
my queue was full of movies i never got to see

the best part of netflix back then was they had literally anything and everything, even the obscure shit. their streaming service has never been that vast, even in the days before they were sued into oblivion and took down everyhting but b movies, old tv shows, and whatever flavor of the month they wanted to spend money on and push

At first, yes, VHS tapes were ridiculously expensive. VCRs were, too. You usually would rent a VCR with some movies and watch them, and even that was pricey. But then the prices went down because they found cheaper ways to produce them, and those are the days people are fond for. Those are the halcyon days of analog media.

early zoomer (98)

Hospitals and colleges have government funding and more partnerships with the government

cars and tech industrys are almost exclusivly privetly operated and owned

My nearby market gives away free vhs tapes.

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It's not even Japanese.

tfw born in 1981

>tfw 1990s front loading vcr

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JUST