Tfw Alita will never offer you her heart

>tfw Alita will never offer you her heart

it hurts bros

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I still didn't watched it because I'm afraid to fall in love

that's okay, I already gave her mine

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but it's better to fall in love than never having been in love

Alita, light of my life, fire of my loins

But it's always be unrequited love. Jim made her...

>I still didn't watched it because I'm afraid to fall in love.
nigga what...
watch the damn movie.

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A bunch of creatine just came through amazon, someday I will be worthy

Diddle my nipper you beautiful thing

typical roastie giving literal their heart to assholes even if it kills them

she would never wanna be with nice guys and gentlemen like me

but it hurts to know you can never have her
she will never be real and exist

almost wished I didnt watch the movie

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It really sucks that we will never be able to fly planes, you know its just physically impossible and you should just be depressed about that without doing anything.
Unless you're a boomer, full and lifelike VR will be implemented within your lifetime

>redpill vs bluepill
...
Always take the redpill, user...

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>le ironic worship of fictional characters xD
Have sex.

>ironic
>he thinks it's ironic
You are the biggest virgin on the entire website of 4channel.

>n-no u
Cope

This doesnt work when the person youre buzzwording actually had sex, and you never did

you cant really compare it that way.
Its like I'm in the 1600s and want to fly a plane but I know even if they develop it it will take many years until someone like me can use it.

Robot gfs that are as qt as Alita will never be real in my lifetime probably not even JOI will be developed in my lifetime.

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I never had sex or a gf
I'm a kissless touchless virgin and all I do is fall in love with fictional characters.
its all I have and closest to love I can get.
normalfags would never understand

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>implying Alita is anything like some modern hypergamous slut obsessed with social justice issues
If anything, she'd join you when you're making fun of them or curb stomping idiots like that.

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We're experiencing exponential growth that hasn't been seen before in history. It's reasonable to say we won't have a space highway, but virtual GFs are completely feasible

You can't fuck an imaginary character. Nice try though, stay seething.

So why do people like this movie again?
What am i missing here?

Its alright you know?

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i see that movie yesterday, and its garbage

Alita is cute and movie hits right in the feels

It was failed attempt to beat Captain Marvel

I have seen it yesterday for the first time too and loved every second of it.
James Cameron is a God.

and in fact accelerated improvement of home/individual entertainment its a requisite for comming social cohesion

wrong
Alitian are proven chads who have lots of sex

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ALITA IS MAH QUEEN!!!

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Oh so basically a movie for animefags, manchildren, and incels?
I used to be an anime ifag i guess. I'll probably watch it one day on netflix when I'm board.

but I'm not chad and I loved the movie and I love Alita.
now I regret not going to the cinema to see it.

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>following scene has them walking hand in hand
They had sex, didn't they?

so what's with all the dark af pictures?

how? has alita a vagina? or you think it was only handjob/blowjob?

Reminder that Alita wasn't the first KINO western anime adaptation ever made

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but Alita is sure the cutest
I just want to cuddle and kiss her

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but she has no elbow blades or mega smasher

hell I'd kill for a new Guyver movie before Blue Beetle fills the role of organic Iron Man of Hollywood

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I want more Alita movies from Cameron

based
cringe

me too user

based
I think I will watch Alita again today

Are you interested in seeing what is essentially a cgi tech demo? An incremental advancement in the use of motion capture?
In that regards it's OK, not extraordinary and definitely not escaping uncanny valley.
Every other element is pure trash.

Go watch Captain Fungus you fucking cretin.

Is this movie good ? If so, how good?
Be honest my dudes.

Go dilate your axe wound you fucking tranny.
Those movies are at least as bad as one another.

its 11/10
10 minutes in and I already fell in love with Alita.
James Cameron is a god.

Reminder Alita is a Hispanic robot for Hispanic men. Interracial marriage is wrong white with whites blacks with blacks and Asians for Asians.

You're telling me that the main/only quality of this film is the crush you develop for the animated girl?

>Reminder Alita is a Hispanic robot for Hispanic men
no?
isn't she from mars?

yes, its a very comfy movie and Alita is qt.
I love Alita.

Live action adaptations are always shit, this is no exception. Just grab the 2 parter gunnm ova from 1992, this is a bad adaptation of that.
The japs make something kind of cool and hollywood just shits on it, every time.

>she'd choose a dumb jock instead of getting a gamer bf like me
This is why all women are whores. When are we gonna rise up, fellow gamers?

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6/10 with weird pacing

Ok thanks, I guess I'll just pass.

Seething weeb, mad that based Cameron and Rodriguez outdid his gook cartoons.

>this amount of false flagging
why can't you just give it up

Stop worshipping this ugly creature you creeps

??
I was just asking questions, and anons actually answered honestly. You sound like a butthurt paranoid pussyfaggot.

>I-i definitely wasn't samefagging
i see right through you, retard

The only people samefagging are the /alita/ trannies.
You have a one dimensional take on this movie, and it's all about the big eyed girl.

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HDR

Why would I even do that ?
Why would anyone do that ?

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>doesn't think it's trivial to inspect element and edit

yep. and some nerds that have fallen in love with a 3D 2D girl

the amount of effort the trolls who don't like this movie go through to troll has been well documented. there's a higher chance that this is more samefagging than it isn't

All the action scenes are heavily laden with slow motion and that unnatural depiction of motion that so many cgi heavy movies suffer with. The slower paced scenes are better but the voice actress is a miscast. 5/10 being very generous.

This fucking scene.
>Should I do a clever comeback?
>Should I engage the target?
>Should I do literally anything other than hold a completely fucking plank expression while carefully lift my frail hands like mister glass no because im lame now
Alita is lame now

ALSO her voice is too dark, and her voice actor makes me wanna sleep

>Should I do a clever comeback?
you want fucking quips? are you some kind of marvelcuck
>Should I engage the target?
she does though, dumbass. just wait like half a second
>Should I do literally anything other than hold a completely fucking plank expression while carefully lift my frail hands like mister glass no because im lame now
it's called adrenaline you complete fucking mong. Sorry the movie doesn't offer your adhd riddled brain with le ebin quips, retard

You will

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Its an honest non cynical movie with a lovable main character

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It was weird that Christoph Waltz was in this movie, being completely disinterested in every scene he was in. Same goes for jennifer connoly, it was like they were asking themselves continuously wtf am I doing in this movie?

way to miss the entire point of JennCon's character. She doesn't, in fact, want to be there. She wants to get beck to the flying city and everyone around her are plebs she can't stand being around. As for Waltz, he's an awkward, eccentric character to begin with and also a grieving father. But you wouldn't know how to process people's emotions, being the autistic faggot you are.

yikes

shallow retarded opinion desu

They were phoning it in for sure. But it must suck when everything around you is a green screen and you're delivering your dialogue to cardboard cutouts.

>everything in this post is wrong
who do you think you're fooling?

>everything around you is a green screen
they built 90,000 square feet of set complete with running water and electricity

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stop posting hdr 4k captures that aren't even fucking color corrected to sdr

why?

not even an alt-rigth incel, but i kinda liked it. cool flick

Why are you here?

you have to go back

My eyes hurt from these shitty Alita screencaps lately. Learn to shoop faggots.

I am touchless 29 year old virgin and loved the movie

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How come in her flashbacks she has the same hair as the hair Dr. Dyson gave her? How did he know what her hair looked like before?

just a coincidence

She still had pubic hair to go from when he found her.

Can anyone ITT help a fella out with a hi-res open matte version of this?

I have a portuguese version from TorrentDay that's compressed to about nine gigs. Decent I guess but could be three times better.

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tfw I literally uploaded that gif today.
Alita is love. Alita is life.

Some spiderman-underpants-wearing normie posted this unironically

Because Ido, just as any true patrician, knows that straight shoulder length hair parted near the middle is the ultimate female haircut.

maybe here hair actually grows, did u ever think of that?

is there a 4K imax ratio version now?

Here's a screen from the remux torrent.

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I don't think enough time passed. But if it did grow back, it would also be a bit of a coincidence that just the right amount of time passed for it to grow to the same length as it was in the flashback.

>paying for torrents
holy shit lmao

No
The BluRay is not good enough
TD's free

Hollywood Jews I swear to fucking god

what does this have to do with anything

Alita takes place in the same universe as Avatar right?

OP is retarded.

What other reason is there for why the commercial release isn't open matte?

>PG15
Funny how bloody scenes from it would be 18+ today

Because the theatrical release wasn't open matte except in IMAX and it's the normal widescreen ratio

Alita, Aliens, Avatar and Terminator all take place in the same Cameronverse. There will be several sequels and crossovers
>Alita 2: Electric Boogaloo
>Alita 3: The Third
>Alita in Space
>Alita visits Pandora
>Alita in Tha Hood
>Alita Saves Christmas
>Alita vs Terminator
>AvT 2: The Quickening
>Alita: Back 2 Tha Hood
>Titanic 26th century: featuring Alita
>Alita Gets Scared Stupid

When will /br2049/ and /abag/ join forces as The Terror and Chernobyl Generals did?

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could've done without the whole romance plot, it was lame. that wasn't even in the manga

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Uh yes it was

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battle cutie

that was right in the feels man

And if it were being released again in theaters then a theatrical ratio would be appropriate but since it's being released now for home screens it should be in a fucking home format.

not at the start of the manga it wasn't. alita is basically by herself when she fights the brain sucker

man we were there already

tons of oc out there

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Daily reminder that VA has boy parts and is suicidal.

In my lucid dreams she does, everything can happen, learn, adapt, ec mortem.

Alita hates trannies

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>by herself
>a little flea

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That's cause the manga is divided into sections but that wouldn't work in a movie

are the trannies here or did they already kill themselves?

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what the fuck is wrong with you people

What trannies are you talking about fren?
Can you pls explain I only saw Alita yesterday and never participated in the thread because wanted to avoid spoilers

maybe. i just didn't like the romance shoehorn in so early, but i guess it had to be done one way or another

they have a discord server ran by a very needy tranny who refuses to acknowledge that he has a peepee

Why these faggots shit up Alita threads?

>be boomer
>use public computer to post on alita generals

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BASED

what's up with the kleenex?

This was such a retarded scene

I would like this movie better if the fanbase didn't have that one tranny

I would hate this movie more if trolls could come up with valid arguments on why it sucked.

fuck i thought you guys were autistic, i fell in love with Alita

Post lewd Rosa's

Just watched this yesterday night. Let me get this straight. Alita:
1. Is basically immortal due to
2. her alien magic heart that has infinite energy to sustain her biological brain.
3. Is a super soldier and is the only thing that knows martial arts
4. in a world that doesn't use guns as weapons
5. and can defeat cyborgs 5 times her size even with a shitty body.
6. Is friends with super scientist who can repair her
7. and make cool gadgets for her.
8. Who gave her a new body that made her even stronger and more agile
9. with self repairing nanomachines to make her invincible
10. and allow her to change her appearance at will.
11. Also she can emit plasma jets.
12. Murders at will with no remorse or repercussion
13. because she can single handedly destroy the robocop police force anyway
14. and because she never explores what it means to be human or her own morality or what justice means.
15. Also she's a dog whistler and is good at sports.
Did I miss anything?

she looked and sounded too white. it was a turn off

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it's anime you fag

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reminder that alita thinks you are disgusting and is in love with hugo

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(You)'re so very delusional...

reminder that Alita doesn't even know you and misses Hugo

they included this fan service for bitches

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- immortal doesn't mean invincible
- she was trained from a child to be a soldier and she's the only one who knows the martial art of Panzer Kunst, other people use different ones (such as White Hot Palm)
- guns are outlawed by Factory law
- she can defeat larger cyborgs because of Panzer Kunst, that's half the reason for its existence
- Ido is just a cybersurgeon not a "super scientist" and the only thing he makes specifically for her are the motorball skates
- the berserker body is better because it's Martian tech which was found in a crashed spaceship far away from the city and the only access to it was underwater and through a large door and then a forcefield that was only unlocked by the code that only a Martian would be able to unlock
- nanomachines doesn't mean she's invincible, just her body can repair itself to a degree
- the body reshapes itself from male/androgynous to female based on her unconscious self-image, there's no evidence that it can do anything beyond that or that she has any control over it
- she only murders in self-defense and there's no repercussion because they were all wanted criminals
- she defeats the Centurions because they were never programmed to fight anything like her and Hugo still died anyways
- good at combat sports because of the combat training, we never see her score any points or even finish a lap in the tryout and she was against people who were only there to kill her

I assume you thought she should be Asian for some reason?
The movie takes place in Central America in the 26th Century and Alita is a Martian, the manga takes place in America

She has been trained since birth to be able to become part of the Martian's Berserker program, the most powerful weapon ever created by a inter planet superpower over 400 years in the future. So I'd be a bit worried if she was shit at fighting, user...

>alita goes to the bar
>you boys are a bunch of burnt out robo dudes who are no match for a cute robo girl like me!
>I'm Just a Girl Starts playing
empowering

Didn't anyone find it weird that Alita literally did some Mortal Kombat fatalities on several cyborgs but wouldn't show the puppy getting skewered?

They wanted to keep it PG-13 because Cameron thought it would be stupid for a coming of age story about a teenage girl to be rated R, same reason why all the cyborg blood is blue

Jesus christ watching this now... this movie is far better than I thought it would be.

its perfect isn't it?

God you guys are insufferable

what do you mean?
I love Alita thats why I made that thread.
I'm sure more anons on Yea Forums have feels for this perfect Waifu and enjoy posting in threads about her

but they showed hugo's friend getting sliced in half...

>adult males enjoying a teen-girl coming of age drama
the absolute state of Yea Forums

There's no blood or guts and it's only on screen for less than a second, if someone getting sliced in half is enough to make it R then all of the Star Wars prequels would be R

>It's another one of those, I should of seen this in IMAX episodes.

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No shit. That's why Disney fears it

Did you watch the movie though

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It's weird how you can watch this movie, and depending on your perspective, it changes the style. If you look at the more rural, or visually depressed aspects of the world, you can see a Rodriguez film. But if you pay attention to the cybernetic and technology stuff, and more grand directing, you can see Cameron's version. Rod said he wanted to see Jim's film, not his, so he tried as hard as he could to do it.
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>tfw you will never wake up to this

jdimsa

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Yeah in a lot of ways it's as close to a Cameron movie as we could get without him directing it

we miss you Peaches

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thats my new background now

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>all these Alita fans fawning over her

>how many read the whole manga?

If this gets a completion and they are as close as there were with this, will they realize just how dark this gal can get with the conflict of the power of agency?

I wish they had made something decent out of this. Maybe the PG rating held it back.
It felt like a YA novel adaptation instead of a badass manga film. I also wish cameron wasn't so obsessed with using motion capture and excessive cgi, it still doesn't cut the mustard when it's the main character who occupies the majority of screen time.
The dude with the all metal body except for the face was very cool though, best looking character by far.

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bump

It's PG-13 not PG and I think she looks fine. There's more to the series than just fighting, the whole concept of her being a warrior who is trying to be a normal girl is part of the appeal of it

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hnnnnnnnnnng

Yes she looks great for the most part, it's just that when she talks it throws out immersion.
The other cyborgs just have actors filmed faces and everything looks natural. If the whole world was built out of cgi characters this mightn't have been an issue.
Convincing lip syncing animation just hasn't been achieved here.

me bringing alita home with me to be my gf

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>get a feeling
>check Yea Forums
>Alita thread again
It's actual magic now.

>

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I don't have a good side-by-side video with dialogue but they're using the exact mouth movements she made while saying the lines for each take, they never split the sources up

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Hey fren! Most of the /alita/ regulars are in the discord now, I think you're the only namefag who never joined

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dude I fucking love Alita

this is a pretty good article on the facial animation process

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why they left teevee?

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probably not joining tbqh

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drama with the jannies, waves of sneeds and trolls, whiny schizos, finally the mods kept the threads from bumping

Sorry, I want to accept your Alita faith.

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Its a shame the final product fails to pass the human eye test. There were late adjustments after screen testing correct? My opinion is that they were unable to rescue it.

It was good and therefore Yea Forums could not tolerate it.

They modified the eyes after the first trailer

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fuck em I will make Alita threads anyway
I love Alita she is my waifu now

She will lose many times.
Even in the film, Gravish defeated her.
And Nova.
And gravity.

And she should not win the champion title, she will lose.

It's probably fine now that the movie has come out on digital and the stupid drama has died off

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Wonder what number we left off on?

>Is this movie good ? If so, how good?
The only question is you the critic or ordinary viewer misses the simple story.
Stories in which there will be no jokes in the middle of the dramatic scene.
Stories in which there will be no political agenda.
The stories in which classic plots are developed as classic plots, without postmodern and deconstructions.

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563 not counting attempted threads in /trash/ and 8ch

I feel sad for missing out on the original threads
I was just too scared to go to the cinema alone to see the movie and didnt want to get the movie spoiled in the threads

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>According to the reports by Japanese media, Yukito Kishiro, the original author of Japanese cyberpunk manga Gunnm, on which the live-action film is based, was very much satisfied with the long-awaited adaptation. The live-action project was originally launched in 2003.
He had already seen the film four times (for free. He said it was the original creator's privilege), and the Japan premiere screening was his fifth. He said on the stage, "Thanks to the great staff, it has become the greatest movie in the world. Every time I see, I can find something new. The composition is amazing. All scenes are special and there are no unneeded ones. It is so exciting that I can't believe that I created the original story.

>As reported, Kishiro previosuly posted his comment that praised the film very highly.
"The core part of the manga was brilliantly passed on to the film. Including the characters' emotion and raison d'etre, they were perfectly reflected in the film, so I was very happy."

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The first 100 ABAG threads were good. The next 100 ALITA threads decayed to being less then good. By the time the general hit the late 400s it was trash. Mods did the board a solid nuking the general when they did.

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she is so perfect hnnnnnng

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Going to the cinema alone is great but you have to do it at least once in order to get over the awkward feeling, I saw Alita 3x by myself.
Sorry you missed the old threads but the Alita fandom is just getting started so I'm sure there will be a lot more to come.

sup sneed

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I can't go alone I'm too scared
seeing other happy people makes me sad

nuking one general that stayed contained was terrible for the board at a time when there were literally more than 70 GoT threads at once sometimes

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lol why did the movie end at the end of the second act? stupid

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fucking got shit was annoying. I'm glad that bullshit is over

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It's almost as if he had a stake in the success of the movie hmmm

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>author lying!
>You are all bots!
Ok.

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Steven King hated the Shining movie and Robert A. Heinlein hated Starship Troopers, neither of them were shy about it

>people watch the movie
>most people conclude its shit and forget about it
>threads go into full circlejerk mode
>bluray releases
>more people watch the movie and conclude it is shit and forget about it
>threads return to full circlejerk mode

I absolutely loved Alita and I feel like this movie spoke directly to me.
Alita is powerful beyond her size and appearance, she gives me and all people like me great hope for the inclusive future that we are all heading into.
I've only just started down my path as an M to F member of the trans community but I feel like with the support of all my fellow /alitans/, especially all of you here and my friends in the /ALITA/ discord server, that I'm really going to make it.
I know it's a little taboo to deadname myself but I feel like it's warranted in this case. My former name was Alan and so I've decided that it would be perfect that my new name will be Alita!
I'm going to be as cute and powerful as her, just wait and see!

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it's cute that you think that
most people liked or even loved the movie:
not to mention that it was also the 9th highest grossing movie this year

Why doesn't the movie have an ending though?

get some new bait

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Sup Jerome.
Stop crying. Those other threads were inline with the board's topic. The alita generals had turned to off topic shit by then. That is why the mods nuked them. Deal with it and move on.

alita is so pure

It does have an ending, the last bit is more like a setup for possible sequels but the manga has been going for 30 years

The relentless weeb faggotry in the generals successfully drove away interest for the movie.
The availability of the torrent proved what we all suspected.
They didn't discuss the movie there, for good reason, it was very ordinary.

Nah dawg the movie ends at the end of the second act. It's not a setup for a sequel it's just literally missing 1/3rd of a movie

the movie is perfect you nigger
in a fair world someone would torture you to death with pliers and a blowtorch

>Act 1: awakening and getting to know the world
>Act 2: getting upset with Ido, fight in Kansas, getting the new body, finally kissing Hugo
>Act 3: motorball, fighting everyone who was sent to kill her, trying to save Hugo
Even if that's not how you would break it down, not every movie needs three acts anyways

you have awful taste

I agree, the patrician choice of torture is a car battery connected to nipple clamps

your conception of the second act is a series of events that are rushed through so quickly they lack any sort of impact or meaning, due to how quickly they're resolved.

you have autism and awful taste.

>The availability of the torrent proved what we all suspected
Yes, 10/10 kino.

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maybe but you seem to think that every movie needs to be as cookie cutter as a Marvel movie

The tone they went for of a young woman's empowerment movie was way off the mark. That fucking barroom scene was the cringiest shit I've seen in at least a decade, complete with le freeze-frame kicky shit.

Exactly, so his second and third act basically constitute the actual second act, and there is no third act or conclusion to the story which should have involved Alita going to Zalem and dealing with Nova. There's an hour of this movie that doesn't exist.

Fuck hugo

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movies do need meaningful conclusions though. so when a movie spends a lot of time establishing the main character does absolutely nothing to the actual antagonist, then rolls credits, it has failed at that.

her speech was meant to be cringy, the other hunters audibly laugh at her

whatabouting marvel doesn't magically make alita a functional movie.

it wasn't "cringey" in the way they intended. As she doesn't sound like an idealistic young girl. She sounds like a very stupid middle aged woman.

Vector is the antagonist, Zapan is the secondary antagonist, Nova is essentially just the Emperor in the Empire Strikes Back

Do not envy.

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It was cringe well beyond the intent of the scene. I think the voice actress delivered it very poorly.

No the movie is supposed to be like this
Watch the OVA you nigger

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so you didn't watch the movie. why defend something if you haven't seen it?

The OVA is awful and the movie was an opportunity to correct some of it's problems. Instead they chose to keep all the OVA's problems and create all new problems.

The film is better.

This is the one inconsistency that is actually legitimate and isn't some madeup bullshit by an user

Alita smashing his face into the table might be the best scene in the film

No, they finally decided to make a decent adaptation of the original material.

That's your opinion, but Rosa's not just the voice actress she did everything but some of the stunts

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Except that isn't what happened. They pretty much just copied the OVA for structure then added some manga material to pad out the extra hour.

>alien magic heart
I stopped reading there, you obviously just don't want to like the movie user and you're misconstruing the plot to justify yourself

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>38 years old

Oh nononono keean grannylover btfo

you are being pedantic about something totally irrelevant to the point. the point is the voice is wrong for the character, and the actor is weak.

>HDR

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I enjoyed watching both.
The Movie felt like they better connected the scenes of the OVA together and expanded the story where it was needed.
Very nicely done.
Cameron is indeed a god.

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>Are you interested in seeing what is essentially a cgi tech demo? An incremental advancement in the use of motion capture?
But user, we're talking about Alita, not Avatar.

Fine, have her do the motion capture if she's good at that. Since she doesn't actually appear in the movie they could've got a better VA, she's deep voiced it sounds retarded coming out of a girls body.

I did watch the movie, Nova is Vector's boss but that doesn't make him the "actual" antagonist, unless you're confusing the words antagonist and villain

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>dealing with Nova in the first movie
The movie adapted the first two books with some elements from book 3. She doesn't go to Zalem until the last few pages in book 9.

She does appear in the movie, or are you confused about how the performance capture process works

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>he keeps proving he didn't watch the movie
nova was mindcontrolling people, thus, had a direct hand in everything. thus establishing vector as irrelevant.

oh there was a 35 year old woman with dots all over her face and a stick attached to her head?
Don't recall that user.

Mostly, but you missed a very important part. Shas all these powers, but still can't save the one she loves.

the only thing from the second volume in the movie was motorball, and nothing from the actual motorball arc was in the movie. Motorball was just used to replace the throw-away gladiator combat that was in the first volume and OVA.

also nova is hinted at in the first volume of the manga.

Thus, all that was in the movie was what was in the OVA and a tiny irrelevant bit from the second volume.

>Just A Girl starts playing
streamable.com/h8jqo

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>second volume was motorball
Saying book 9 should have made it obvious I was referring to the original release, whereas you're talking about the Omnibus release, which divided them into 5 books. Book 2 of the original release ends with Hugo's death.
My point still stands, she doesn't go to Zalem until late in book 9 so doing that in the first film would have been retarded.

wow, you really can't read. probably try reading the post again with the understanding that I did not confuse last order for volume 2.

Nigger, show me where I mentioned Last Order.

for all we know she could have been originally a man. aren't all the martian soldiers basically trans cyborgs?

nigger, deal with the fact the movie pulls absolutely nothing from the material after hugo's death except some cosmetics surrounding motorball to replace the gladiator combat. Thus, it has about the same amount of actual content as the OVA, but is an hour longer, and manages to accomplish less.

furthermore, the amount of OC in the movie makes all comparisons to the manga pointless. As nova never ruled salem in the manga, for instance.

Nova and does not control Zalem in the film.
He replaces the security chief.

The film presents all the participants of the motorball and demonstrates the game. The film correctly shows the change of bodies and the value. The film better shows the relationship of Hugo and Alita.

youtu.be/36ug83ncMr0

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Vector:
- pays Hugo for jacked cyborg parts, Hugo helps him because Vector lied about being able to pay to get to Zalem
- gets Chiren to fix up Grewishka (at Nova's request) in order to get Alita's heart
- controls motorball, kills Kinuba, gets the dirty motorballers to try to kill Alita in exchange for a reward
- lies to Chiren about her being able to go back to Zalem, turns her into a box full of organs after she helps Alita

Hugo's arc and Chiren's arc both start and end because of Vector, Alita's conflict with the motorballers is because of Vector, everything Nova does is filtered through Vector.

The movie contains a clear allegory for transgender reassignment surgery. There's even a part where she gets a new body and the Dr says something like
>she's re configuring into a subconscious image of herself
Literally the sort of shit that goes on inside the delusional mind of trannies. It's an LGBT fantasy. No wonder the discord crowd embraced it.

>clear allegory
trolling is supposed to be subtle. 2/10 apply yourself

>t. seething tranny
This scene happens in the movie, deal with it. You should in fact be celebrating it.

comic book was badly written in first place so there was not any hope movie to be good either.

Movie sucked balls. Absolute waste of bandwidth. Laughing hard at the pathetic nerds who were talking about buying the $200 collector set and watching it 20 times in the cinema. Absolute fucking Yea Forums tourists.

Its a good movie
I love Alita

What didn't you like about it, user?

>Nova and does not control Zalem in the film.
He is identified as "the dragon that must be slain" in a flashback, where he is known by sight, and is shown operating salem.

Thus, in the movie, he's the king of salem.

Also, again, the movie has nothing but cosmetic features of motorball and has none of the motorball arc, to replace gladiator combat that was in the manga/OVA, and is exactly as meaningful to the plot. But you will have to quantify how six total minutes of hugoxalita content was better than the manga chapters about hugo.

shitting on the manga doesn't make the movie better.

none of that changes the fact he was a mind controlled puppet. thus, irrelevant and replaceable.

>to replace gladiator combat that was in the manga
Gladiatoral combat is barely a footnote in the manga to explain how Makaku got his new body, while Motorball is an essential part of society in the movie.

and motorball is barely a footnote in the movie.

>in order to get Alita's heart
so sweet. i completely missed the allegory

>he didn't see the movie
It doesn't adapt the motorball arc (obviously, since that happens after Hugo dies), but you can't deny that motorball is a big part of the film.

So you think these actors weren't in their movies either?
- Hugo Weaving as V
- Ron Perlman as Hellboy
- Doug Jones as Abe Sapien or El Fauno
- Edward Norton as King Baldwin (Kingdom of Heaven)
- Zoe Saldana as Neytiri
- Gary Oldman as Mason Verger (Hannibal)
- Josh Brolin as Thanos
- Jim Carrey as the Grinch
- Tim Roth as General Thade (Planet of the Apes)
- Robert Englund as Freddy Krueger
- Brad Pitt as Benjamin Button
- John Hurt as John Merrick (the Elephant Man)
- Ian McDiarmid as Emperor Palpatine
- Tilda Swinton in Suspiria
- Peter Mayhew as Chewbacca
- Andy Serkis as Gollum
All of them were obscured by makeup and/or computer effects, in most cases completely unrecognizable without being familiar with the actor.
Performance capture like in Alita is essentially just makeup that is done in the computer. I know it's complicated and hard to understand but just because you don't see someone's actual skin does not mean that they didn't play the character.

Motorball takes up a lot of screen time, but that doesn't make it a big part of the film. As the motorball sequences amount to nothing but padding/filler.

Nova only mind controls Vector very briefly, everything else Vector does is on his own, including anything involving Hugo or Chiren

equating makeup/masking to performance capture isn't a valid comparison, as those don't involve digitally removing a performer from a scene and replacing them with CGI.

>wearing a costume and makeup is the same as providing a reference for an animated character
why are you so dishonest?

Sorry, but the movie establishes that mind control is a pretty regular occurrence with vector.

maybe try actually watching it. its quite bad though, so I understand why you didn't.

>performance capture is just a reference
Based retard.

It's a perfectly valid comparison, every single thing Alita does (other than stunts) was done by Rosa on the set with the other actors just like any other performance

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You're still confused about the difference between antagonist and villain/enemy

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"performance capture" really is just a way to generate detailed references to create more lifelike CGI animations.

She even calls him a puppet, my dimwitted friend. Meaning he wasn't a significant figure without nova's influence/control.

>performance capture is just a reference
yes see for proof
left is the movie, right is not

okay grandpa, you'll never get it anyway

you lose this debate every time you try to have it. why would you continually subject yourself to this?

You're just proving you don't really understand what performance capture means. She isn't instantly translated into a CGI mesh. They still need to push tons of manhours to model and translate the "captured" performance correctly.

>performance capture
don't change the subject, retard
the actor, with all his mannerisms and personality is fully represented on screen, it doesn't matter which means they used to put it there

We're talking about performance capture and what's involved, and how its really is just a means to generate detailed reference material for CGI renders.

Did you somehow forget that?

>the actor is fully represented on screen
You're well overdue for an eye exam. The whole purpose of motion capture is so that you can replace the performer with a CGI representation. That woman is not in the film.

i barely mentioned it and you stuck to it like a lice, double nigger
at this point you don't even seem believe your own lies. stop ashaming yourself

Movies where the antagonist works for someone else:
ESB - Vader (working under the Emperor)
the Fifth Element - Zorg (working for the ultimate evil aka Mr. Shadow)
TDKR - Bane (working for Talia al'Ghul)
Avatar - Col. Quarritch (working for Giovanni Ribisi's character)

... it doesn't matter if you mention it or not, it is the name of the technique they used to replace an actress with a CGI render.

its kinda sad you typed out that list of movies where the primary antagonist is either also defeated or the henchman continues to be a threat, and didn't realize it bore no relevance to alita.

I'm really starting to think you might be legitimately retarded.

That's because you don't understand what it means to be a primary antagonist, you can't keep a series going if you kill the villain working behind the scenes in the very first movie

You're quibbling over literally nothing, my dimwitted friend.

The issue with the movie is vector is a total irrelevancy. He's a glorified manager. Killing him just means he'll be replaced by whoever is next in line, and nothing changes.

Every time a discussion descends to semantics, you know it became 100% shitposting on both sides

That doesn't mean he's not the antagonist of the movie, just that he's replaceable

it means he's unimportant, and thus, killing him is meaningless.

arguing about this won't suddenly drag the movie out of the red.

/Alita/utists defending every element of this dumb movie as if they're being paid to..
But they do it for free

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>resorting to insults out of frustration
>pivoting to a new argument
nice playing with you

He's not irrelevant. He is the primary antagonist of the movie. Was the original death star irrelevant in A New Hope? It was replaced after all. If you're trying to set up a series you don't take out the big bad right away. Otherwise there would be nowhere else to go with it. Saruman died in lotr, but Sauron still had to be dealt with. Was Saruman completely irrelevant?

I'm sorry if you feel insulted by facts.

>He is the primary antagonist of the movie.
Nope, that was nova. Vector is just a puppet in the movie.

based retard

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Calling someone a retard is an insult

Friend, you don't have an actual argument here. Whattabouting other movies doesn't correct any of the flaws in alita. One of the bigger ones being the lack of any sort of meaningful achievement by the MC.

It's almost as if the hero doesn't always win, weird

>provide examples of what you're bitching about in other classic movies
>disregard my entire point with no counter argument
based retard

it wasn't even presented as that situation either. It completely failed to hit any note. the movie just kinda exists.

Because my points are unassailable.

it was cute, fun, and comfy. It wasn't cynical, or morally gray. I liked it more than any Marvel or DC movie i've ever seen. It was a breath of fresh air in reboot/capeshit world.

Hey /alit/iggers how's it going today? Threadly reminder:
>floplita is an absolute abomination of an adaptation
>performs appallingly at the box office
>trust me guys, there will be a sequel!
Well, I'm convinced

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>it was [i liked it], [i liked it], and [i liked it].
...

and a big issue is the manga was basically a treatise on moral relativism and harsh cyncism. so adapting it and completely dropping all of that is pretty inexcusable.