What went wrong?
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simply put, they missed the entire point
And what was the point of DN in your opinion?
the manga
That is not a "point".
read it and watch the netflix adaption. If the differences aren’t glaring you may be an unironic brainlet. And no, L being black isn’t a big deal
Based retard
So, the authors of the manga literally made their next series about a couple of manga authors trying to break into comics- their idea for a series that would be the analogue of DN was to make a battle manga like Dragon Ball, only the characters fight with their minds and try to outsmart each other instead of actually using martial arts.
The movie included here and there a couple of scenes wit L and Light doing the whole cat and mous thing, but those were really lame and silly, with L just going to Light's house with a squad to register the place and nothing particularly complicated.
The problem is that the director didn't want to do that. The director wanted to do essentially a remake of Heathers.
Made the Deathnote way too powerful with the vague new rules and made everyone generally dumber compared to their animu/mango counterparts. Except Misa, her stand in is just as stupid.
Here's a small list:
>Directors claiming this is a "reimagining" while still using the same characters names and even a few of their quirks
>The charm of death note was that L and Kira weren't reletable at all which made seeing them try to outsmart eachother more interesting, meanwhile DeathFlix tries to give L humans emotions while making Light some guy desperate for pussy while in the manga he couldn't care less about Misa
>Bending rules to fit their story
>Making Light incompetent as hell like reading in the death note in the fucking gym stands and explaining the death note the moment he catches a whiff of a Vagina
>Way too much romance drama shit
>L willing to compromise to save Watari
>Making you wonder at the end if L will write Light's name in the death note while the real L wouldn't even consider it
>In the manga Light was like "I was expecting you..."
>Movie: AAAAAAAAAH
They called the main guy "Light". If he had been called "Sam" or "Billy" or any other name, most of the worst criticisms would disappear because we could easily accept that this was a different person.
But by calling him "Light", you're directly comparing this weak nerdy idiot to the Alpha Chad Light from the anime/manga
Imagine if they actually made it a new story with different characters and just keeping Ryuk. It would've made the movie just an interesting new experience while keeping the original story in-tact.
This basically
Real Light was a retard because he thought of himself as a god
Movie Light was a retard because he actually was.
I'm still mad at that episode 3 moment where Light killed that guy on TV. He should never have falled for that.
>What went wrong?
The nigger.
fuck you it was amazing and the sequel is already in production which will also be a pleb filter
I bet you enjoyed twilight too.
I don't even blame the actors. It's not their fault they got such a shitty script.
Welp, what essentially went wrong is they wanted to make a story that stood on its own but also heaped on the Death Note lore. They also seemed to have time constraints as Netflix apparently wanted this movie to not be too long so I imagine anything that helped naturally flow scenes together was left on the cutting room floor.
Seriously, even Cosmonaut Variety Hour pointed out it feels like entire scenes are missing.
There was an entire point to that though.
They could never live up to the expectations of the source material, so why did they still try it anyways? They could have made an entirely new story and they wouldn't have to worry too much about the time constraints because the story would been entirely in the hands of the directors, but nooooo. Let's just create a sloppy "reimagining" of the original series that nobody will enjoy!
IIRC the original mangaka liked it enough, and I think Obata even made art based off of it too.
They butchered Light's character, assassinated L's character to the point of extreme prejudice, and of course the Misa stand-in while hot was just there to be the 'surprise' villain all along.
Everything. Well except the voice of Ryuk.
They didn't get anyone to do a US cover of The World as an end credits theme. Nor did he take a potato chip and eat it.
Honestly most of my problems with this movie have more to do with L than anything, its like they took a few of his quirks and characteristics and threw it in a blender with entirely new elements and just decided to roll with it.
Him going on tv knowing Kira could kill people from a distance was quite retarded as well.
They half-assed everything. They could have either stayed loyal to the manga/anime characters with an altered story for the movie in a different setting/locale or they could have made a completely new story within the Death Note franchise.
But instead they went with the worst of both worlds and kept the names PARTIALLY the same for name recognition but still changed the characters entirely. This half-assedness of wanting to both keep name recognition but also make them your "own character" is what doomed this movie to become a clusterfuck of shit.
>The World
>Not the superior ending, Zetsubo Billy.
Pleb.
when is the sequel coming and what will it be about?
they made Light some loner loser that looks like he's seconds away from shooting up the school.
Menzai no WORLD
Seisai no WORD
Eru netsu masa ni "DEATH PIRATES"
Aganau houritsu GAME
ZETSUBOU BILLY iza rinri
Saa! Tomerarenai ERASER RAIN!
ZETSUBOU BILLY iza rinri
Saa! Tomerarenai ERASER RAIN!
Tomerarenai ERASER RAIN
>casting a gay nigger as L
A gaynigger who isn't even from outer space no less.
just because a movie is bad doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable
I'm not saying it's so shitty that it makes you laugh, I'm saying that it's a film that's good enough to watch on a sunday afternoon while eating dinner and browsing shitty threads
>Zetsubo Billy
>Superior ED theme
That's a fucking hilarious way to spell Alumina.
They've written themselves in a corner by basically confirming Light is Kira and by already having Misa killed.
Making L black was most consistent with the original, for an American remake.
They obviously had to make Light white.
In the original, Light is Japanese, and L is 1/4 Japanese,1/4 English, 1/4 Russian, 1/4 French or Italian
So basically a white mutt.
Whites are to Japanese like Blacks are to Whites.
It's most consistent with the racial dynamic of the original, to make L black.
>They could have stayed loyal to the manga/anime characters
No they couldn't.
Is Light gay and in love with L, or is he Asexual? Either way you interpret it, you'd have to double down.
The sexless gaybaiting ambiguity of the source material simply would not translate, especially not for a character who is supposed to, in all other respects, be some ubermensch.
>Whites are to Japanese like Blacks are to Whites.
Nips actually see whites as the superior race. Think it's quite weird especially from a country with such a great history.
Proof of this you /pol/-tier retard?
>Nips actually see whites as the superior race
yeah, at sports, bigger dicks, better at music
but not as good at studying, less harmonious social order, less intelligent, more violent
Sneed
>Whites are to Japanese like Blacks are to Whites.
They like white people, they just dont like Americans, obviously.
lol and what is your point
Fuck off e;r
Buddy, nips gush over french people, or their idea of a French person anyway. They didn't like you because you're a fat mexican-looking American.
you get the idea m8, they absolutely despise Americans for what they did to them
>inb4 muh pearl harbor
who gives a fuck about soldiers tho LOOOOOOL
>They didn't like you because you're a fat mexican-looking American.
no
and what is your point? Do you think L looks french? Do you think the racial dynamic in the original is that everyone loves him?
No, he's this somewhat familiar but estranged outsider. And he's notably not the same ethnicity as the rest of the characters, which is one of the reasons why he's so estranged and his ways and means are so mysterious. And they do all look down on him a little in some ways and also admire him.
Now to preserve that racial dynamic, in America, with a white everyone else, what race do you think he should be?
I feel like they should've thrown asian americans a bone and made of them asian but everyone knows in the west diversity can only mean extra dark black.
It wasn't clever enough. What made Death Note interesting to watch, for me, was tension and the outwitting of each other from L and Light. Where Light would make a move but L had a countermove and Light would expect that and so on.
Instead they focused on a bad love story, Light tips his entire identity to everyone he meets and there is no real "outwitting" except for perhaps the last scene of the movie which was okay I guess. Movie had other problems but that was the major problem.
>what is your point
That Japs love Europeans more than they love Anglo's? They have a special place for Dutch people, without them, Japan would be China tier RIGHT now.
>b-b-but they treat us like blacks
yeah el gordo americano's maybe
>they absolutely despise Americans for what they did to them
No they fucking don't lol. Cultural imperialism is a strong thing and most nips are ameriboos.
Their cultural attitude to the war is also really different than you might think.
And do you still hold a grudge against X? Leave that shit to chinks and gooks against the nips for nanking and comfort women and stuff.
and misa was like a conniving, evil bitch instead of a subservient cute charming whore. and we're supposed to believe the greatest young detective in the world is a 40 year old negro who shoves m&ms in his mouth.
I know japs are euroboos user. But they do also look down on whites in general.
And most white people don't just hate blacks either.
As to what your point is, i meant more, in regards to replicating the racial dynamic of the original, with a white Light as a given.
a: there are fuck all good young asian actors
Lakeith Stanfield is actually a great actor and was great in the role.
b: Which one? It would have been less faithful to the original regardless, in terms of the racial dynamic, and not in terms of outright 'i hate niggers' and >muh representation but im totally not a sjw and it's all about being faithful to the original but not really
They could have just copied the live action drama or movie.
Do you cunts really not watch Atlanta?
It's easily the best recent TV show, starring the guy who plays L.
It's also directed by an American-Japanese guy.
>Lakeith Stanfield is actually a great actor and was great in the role.
no. it was jarring seeing someone known for their ghostly pale skin and jet black hair be black.
>b: Which one? It would have been less faithful to the original regardless, in terms of the racial dynamic, and not in terms of outright 'i hate niggers' and >muh representation but im totally not a sjw and it's all about being faithful to the original but not really
what racial dynamic? Sure, he was technically part british but they clearly looked japanese anyways.
do japs appreciate all euros, or just germans and catholics?
this one was actually really good and shat all over the netflix adaption.
At it's most basic it's two geniuses playing mind games against each other. You can swap the details of the ideals each of them hold, you can swap the mechanics of their schemes, you can stick them in an America, but if you deliver an insecure pussy whipped geek and a homeless nigger screaming emotionally at each other in fast food restaurant you've clearly missed the core appeal.
>what racial dynamic?
It went over your head clearly, but it's a large part of his character, the story, and how he relates to other characters. Do you think he IS Japanese in the story? Do you think Japanese people treat non-Japanese, the same way they treat Japanese? Do you think they're some melting pot multicultural people to whom race doesn't matter? Do you think they normally allow outsiders into their institutions, to take over running things (say, the police)?
>how a character looks
absolutely superficial pleb tier reading of a story. And utterly irellevant considering anime design is regularly ambiguous.
I've been to restaurants in JP that loudly blast Ludacris, if that means anything.
what do you expect from a short movie?
movies are trash
it was an ok timewaster
>It went over your head clearly, but it's a large part of his character, the story, and how he relates to other characters. Do you think he IS Japanese in the story? Do you think Japanese people treat non-Japanese, the same way they treat Japanese? Do you think they're some melting pot multicultural people to whom race doesn't matter? Do you think they normally allow outsiders into their institutions, to take over running things (say, the police)?
I watched the anime, and all the live action series. His british background had little to do with how the story played out at all.
>>how a character looks
>absolutely superficial pleb tier reading of a story. And utterly irellevant considering anime design is regularly ambiguous.
yeah ambiguous between whites and asians, not blacks.
dude yeah, of course, there was a De La Soul album produced for Japanese release with Scha Dara Parr on a song rapping in Japanese. Nujabes?
Jazz has a big foothold in Japan too, Murakami for example constantly writes about it.
>Psycho Near and Puppet Mello
>Best live action Light and L
Why was this somewhat cheap drama adaptation objectively the best version of Death Note there is? How did that happen?
Rose of Versailles is my favourite anime ever, and that's about Marie Antoinette.
Lupin the Third, Porco Rosso, the list goes on.
-Big- Euroboos in general.
Do you think if they did an anime remake of Death Note, changing L to a full japanese character, wouldn't change anything, and wouldn't trigger Nips?
You're wrong.
kakegurui is shit get some taste
>why is any live action japanese anime movie good
Because you're literally autistic and don't have any appreciation for character drama and can put up with abysmal acting and stories that make no sense and terrible all round production quality and only care about comfy superficial familiarity.
yeah i just dont see much in the way of england, scandanavia, slavs. i think they have a hardon for catholicism
The Japanese made two live action films where L was full nip and they were critically acclaimed whilst topping their box office.
Ghibli has a bit of a hardon for britain, Howl's Moving Castle, When Marnie was There, and Arrietty are all based on british novels.
Vinland Saga that just started is a pretty based show about vikings.
Danish core character in shokugeki no souma
hmmm good point although I don't think they'd have any other way of doing it in live action
That was what made him ultimately lose. L was up his ass after that.
you dont say fuck off to the god of jewtube comedy you fuck
It'd be more realistic if Light were a nignog.